SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

kofidog said:
Hey guys, I want to have a go at making some CCO. Without me having to read through the entire thread from the beginning, could someone direct me to the step by step process?
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Welcome kofidog. Are you looking to make a large batch or a small batch? There are different methods I'd recommend for each.
 
Just curious if this is dry weight, the 400 grams ?
Thank you
 
Jacobsenji said:
Just curious if this is dry weight, the 400 grams ?
Thank you
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That's freshly harvested wet weight Jacob. Dry would be using 100 grams of plant material to the 500 ml of oil.
 
SweetSue said:
That's freshly harvested wet weight Jacob. Dry would be using 100 grams of plant material to the 500 ml of oil.
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Just the flowers ? Sorry if I seen like I am being difficult. I'm tired and was waiting up to see this.
Have a good night guys.

Phrum the light room.
 
Good Morning!
Hope things have turned around for you Sue after a difficult weekend.
I put some of my olive oil extract into capsules this weekend. Have been taking 2 a day (morning/night) its not a super high but I have noticed lots of benefits. Anxiety is lower, my pain is more manageable and I love the energy I get from it.
Not sure what the dose strength is since I made this with second run bud after making CCO. For me it shows how much goodness is in our plants even after doing a great oil run.
 
RheinRover said:
Good Morning!
Hope things have turned around for you Sue after a difficult weekend.
I put some of my olive oil extract into capsules this weekend. Have been taking 2 a day (morning/night) its not a super high but I have noticed lots of benefits. Anxiety is lower, my pain is more manageable and I love the energy I get from it.
Not sure what the dose strength is since I made this with second run bud after making CCO. For me it shows how much goodness is in our plants even after doing a great oil run.
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Good Morning
I get so happy reading about how much it helps :)
 
SweetSue said:
I'm so glad to hear this Morglie. :battingeyelashes: :Love: Those invaluable bits of herbology that got tossed aside when pharmaceuticals took over the world are important to get out there again. The first time you try this you'll be amazed at how it's instantly effective. Spread the word.

Do you know about comfrey? It's called Knitbone for its ability to heal bone on a cellular level. One of the most valuable medicinal herbs out there. There's so much we've forgotten.
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I've heard of comfrey. I need to look it up to see if we have any growing here. I have 6 acres of meadowland that is covered with all kinds of wild flowers and plants.

Now if only I could get what is taking my chickens. We've lost 8 birds in a little over a week. No sign of struggle. We think hawks are snatching them and flying off. I've been out before dawn for the last three days but nothing yet. I think they are spotting me and not coming around.

Sent from this funny device I carry around and still call a phone even though I hardly ever make calls with it.
 
Canna Montana said:
Hey Sue, how's it going this evening?

I've got a question for you. Tomorrow I will harvest the OGK clone. We want to use her to make oil. What's the best way to make cco with a whole fresh plant?
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I just did a whole plant about a week ago, lets see what steps are recommended and how I can be more efficient!
 
Morglie said:
I've heard of comfrey. I need to look it up to see if we have any growing here. I have 6 acres of meadowland that is covered with all kinds of wild flowers and plants.

Now if only I could get what is taking my chickens. We've lost 8 birds in a little over a week. No sign of struggle. We think hawks are snatching them and flying off. I've been out before dawn for the last three days but nothing yet. I think they are spotting me and not coming around.

Sent from this funny device I carry around and still call a phone even though I hardly ever make calls with it.
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It was foxes last year for us Morglie.
P.s. Welcome to:420:
 
Canna Montana said:
Did you make cco, or oil for capsules?
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Hi Canna Montanna,

I made CCO from the whole plant, even the roots. I then made capsules from the resultant CCO at three strengths, 40:1, 30:1 and 20:1 for a gradual dosage ramp. Recipient was basically THC naive or rather had no tolerance.

Keith
 
SweetSue said:
Use the technique I used with the Med GOM 1.0. That's PsyCro's olive oil extraction, but it can be done with coconut oil for a faster hit of euphoria if this is for recreational use.

The basic formula is 400 grams of plant material to 500 ml of oil.

- Chop the plant up into small buds.

- Blend the oil and the plant material together. PsyCro tells me he does this in the pot with an immersion blender. He starts with the oil and then adds the plant material a little at a time until it's all incorporated. In his directions he mentions that he uses the immersion blender because it was the only way he could get that much plant material into that small quantity of oil.

- Place the container with the mash into an oil bath. I used canola for the high heat tolerance. Learn from my mistake and use metal or Pyrex for the container that holds the plant material. We don't need a repeat of this:

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- Bring the temperature of the oil up slowly. The water in the plant will begin to boil out. When it's finished doing that you need to keep a close eye on the temperature of the mash. Check the temperature of the mash every five minutes from the beginning for the first run. Next run you'll have a better feel for what you're watching for. You'll see the bubbles change from water boiling off to decarboxylation bubbles. I did a lot of stirring during the two hours, but it was mostly out of curiosity. :laughtwo:

When you hit 212 degrees F start the timer. From this point it'll be two hours.

- Get the temperature up to 225 degrees F and keep it close to that. If it gets too high turn the heat off and remove the pot until the temps stabilize.

- At two hours you're done. Add lecithin at a rate of 1 TBS/cup of oil. Refrigerate overnight, bring to room temperature and fill your capsules.

I'm pretty sure that's everything. It's really a delightfully straight-forward approach. I think it may be my favorite oil so far and I see great potential for it.
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Sue,
When I did my whole plant extraction last week or so, I filtered the oil through cheesecloth. BUT, I was just thinking, a dangerous thing sometimes, if the material is ground fine enough, would leaving the plant material in the mix and into the capsule be of any benefit or cause any problem? The whole plant entourage thingy enters my mind again!

Again, your DDA loss breaks my heart, if I were a female, I would have cried too. Ya'll are kind of lucky that the fairer sex isn't trained to squelch tears as a child, sometimes I think I might cuss and swear less if tears were not socially discouraged from the male population.

Thanks

Keith
 
KeifKeith said:
Hi Canna Montanna,

I made CCO from the whole plant, even the roots. I then made capsules from the resultant CCO at three strengths, 40:1, 30:1 and 20:1 for a gradual dosage ramp. Recipient was basically THC naive or rather had no tolerance.

Keith
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Did you use the fresh plant, or was it dry? Which method of extraction did you use? Winterizing?
 
KeifKeith said:
Sue,
When I did my whole last week or so, I filtered the oil through cheesecloth. BUT, I was just thinking, a dangerous thing sometimes, if the material is ground fine enough, would leaving the plant material in the mix and into the capsule be of any benefit or cause any problem? The whole plant entourage thingy enters my mind again!

Thanks

Keith
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You can leave the plant material in there, ensuring you get every last bit of meds out of it, or you can strain it out and save the mash for brownies. I've done both.
 
Canna Montana said:
Did you use the fresh plant, or was it dry? Which method of extraction did you use? Winterizing?
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It was a whole fresh plant, right from the ground, washed, chopped and ground. I used Ethanol and made CCO in a Magic Butter 2 Machine. I then used Sue's recipe for Capsules, varying the ratio for three different strengths desired. It is working on my son, first week was 40:1 Caps, second week (this week) he switched to the 30:1, then next week starts the 20:1. Dosage titration will be evaluated during weeks 3 through 6.

Keith

Keith
 
Jacobsenji said:
Just the flowers ? Sorry if I seen like I am being difficult. I'm tired and was waiting up to see this.
Have a good night guys.

Phrum the light room.
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Sorry to keep you waiting Jacob. I fell asleep without warning when I stretched across the bed to retrieve something. :laughtwo: Might be stretching it a bit thin these days. Lol!

I hang my plants washed, but untrimmed. I use as much of the whole plant as possible, although I've never used roots, because I leave them in my no-tills and recycle them for the kit soil. Stems can be ground, but don't get too carried away with it, it's the bark essentially you're going for here.

Every bit of the plant, from soil line to apical tip, is covered with trichomes. Most are only one cell high, so we don't see them with the naked eye, but they're covering every square inch of the plant. The trichomes vary in composition depending on where they're located on the plant. When I make oil I want as much diversity in my oil as possible, so I try to use the whole plant. Doc Bud insists that the trichomes on the sugar leaves are superior in quality to those on the buds. Worth paying attention to IMHO.

My basic formula, if I'm dealing with parts instead of the whole, is 70% buds and sugar leaves, 20% fan leaves and the remaining 10% stem and branches, by weight. I tend to use more branch and less stem, or I strip the bark off the stem. Stems can be difficult to break up.
 
KeifKeith said:
It was a whole fresh plant, right from the ground, washed, chopped and ground. I used Ethanol and made CCO in a Magic Butter 2 Machine. I then used Sue's recipe for Capsules, varying the ratio for three different strengths desired. It is working on my son, first week was 40:1 Caps, second week (this week) he switched to the 30:1, then next week starts the 20:1. Dosage titration will be evaluated during weeks 3 through 6.

Keith

Keith
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You used the MBM2 to make your CCO? I haven't tried it yet since I have the distiller and reclaim the ethanol, but we've had members recommend against the MBM2, though I can't offhand recall their reasoning. You had no difficulty with using it?

We use our CCO in capsule form, unlike many other approaches. I guess this was where my instincts led me and we all seem to be gravitating to follow that lead. I'm incredibly gratified to have all this success with administering the capsules. There's such potential here and I can't tell you all how it excites me to have so many of you active in this search for better methods and understanding.:circle-of-love:
 
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