SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

[SweetSue]

Danolo - Just make it look pretty and thick, like excellent ice cream. It works for kids! It should work on a woman, too.


SOOOOOOOOO...... Last night and today, I tried to take a full, undiluted drop of my CBD oil. Um. Nope, nope, and NOPE.

The 1/5 dilution is working well, but I am ready to increase. So I'll just do it super slow - next batch will be 1/4. I didn't think the jump would be too high - I went from 1/10 dilution to 1/5 without much issue. But, apparently, my body refuses to make anything too simple and fun.

I wanted to be able to take an undiluted drop before I started the oil with THC again. I'm still putting off starting it. I'm just scared.

The good news is that at this rate, 1 bottle of oil is going to last me 87 years, so I don't need to worry about cost

Sara....... Have you spoken to your caregiver about your trepidation? I'm sure you're not the first patient with hesitation. He may have some tricks you could use to help get yourself beyond this point.

 

[Cannoisseuras]

The best part of waking up is folgers & a blunt (singing to the folgers chime). .

Good morning everyone I hope for today that we all feel a little bit better then we did yesterday

anything that occurs in nature cannot be unnatural!
The Birth & Evolution Of A Dragon

Unknown Strain From Seed - First Time Grow

 

[SL2222]

Sara....... Have you spoken to your caregiver about your trepidation? I'm sure you're not the first patient with hesitation. He may have some tricks you could use to help get yourself beyond this point.

Hi, Susan!!!!!

I did talk with him just the other day. He seems to think that all I simply need to do is take more CBD if I feel anything uncomfortable from the THC. He insists I can take as much CBD as I need. So I tried to increase my CBD alone to see how it made me feel - to make sure I could do that and be comfortable. It was an epic fail. I was actually very sick from it yesterday. Shaky, pounding heart, some anxiety. So I spent a very uncomfortable day getting it out of my system, took none today, but will take my normal dose tonight again.

I'm seriously just not normal. I take the tiniest amount of this oil as it is. AND I am seriously grateful that this small amount is helping my anxiety. But it seems that my body is going to tell me when it can move on, and my "want" to get a move on with the protocol has absolutely no say. So, I did mix up a batch of the 1:1, diluted 50x. When I feel good and brave I will take it and see what happens, but not push it if it feels awful.

 

[Chew]

Just thought i would drop this in here...

You guys over in the U.S may already have excess to strains this high in CBD but we have only just seen this over in the UK.

Candida CD1. CBD levels between 10 & 20%. In stock at Seedsman

 

[SweetSue]

Just thought i would drop this in here...

You guys over in the U.S may already have excess to strains this high in CBD but we have only just seen this over in the UK.

Candida CD1. CBD levels between 10 & 20%. In stock at Seedsman

10-20%? Damn! I'm looking for strains like this. Thank you Chew.

 

[Canyon]

10-20%? Damn! I'm looking for strains like this. Thank you Chew.

Thunderstruck Feminized Seeds

This S1 offering has the highest CBD/lowest THC ratio of any of our varieties, making it great for medicating people of all ages. Pureple medicinal cannabis of the higest quality! Tremendous for people dealing with cancer as well as people suffering from epilepsy. 20-1 CBD to THC Ratio.

My seeds have been residing at LA customs since February 9.


[;>)
I never know

 

[SL2222]

Soo ----

I've been playing around with things. Is it not possible to edit posts that are older than a few hours? It seems I can't, but I'd like to know for sure.

Thank you!

 

[SweetSue]

Soo ----

I've been playing around with things. Is it not possible to edit posts that are older than a few hours? It seems I can't, but I'd like to know for sure.

Thank you!

You have 420 minutes to edit a post. If there's something you really desire to have edited you can contact a mod and they'll help you do that. I ask for their help all the time.

 

[SweetSue]

Hey all! I've been absent but enjoying my CBD oil

I have a question for a friend I'm trying to help - Any doctor in the house?

The woman I'm friends with is in her 70s - kind of very delicate and sensitive like I am. She purchased a bottle of cannabis syrup called Adabinol a year or so ago. It is about 3:1 CBD:THC.

She only tried it once - one drop under the tongue. A "dose" is supposed to be one teaspoon - 3mg CBD: <1mg THC. Again, she only took a drop.

So the good news is she felt relaxed - anxiety and pain and general inflammation is her main concern - the THC did not worsen her anxiety like it did mine. However, she said that it lowered her blood pressure too much and she felt faint. I think her blood pressure is usually normal.

Anyone know why this is happening and what she could do about it? I told her that I dilute my cannabis, so she could try that, but i also told her I'd ask and see if anyone knew what this was about and if she should push through and try.

Cannabis will lower the blood pressure, but it's a transitory event, and with awareness comes the ability to know in advance to be cautious about getting up too quickly after a dose. It passes within a few minutes. There's a standing caution for those with low blood pressure.

It will also increase the heart rate for a short time after dosing. Another thing to consider with elderly patients.

That dose on the bottle is a goal. With all cannabis products the approach is the same - start low and increase slowly with awareness. If she's new to cannabis she should be using the method laid out in the dosing and administration thread. It pretty important that new patients reach the initial stage where they feel anything and stay at that level for three days before titrating up. It sounds like she's there now, so I'd recommend she do just that.

 

[rikvasen]

Well, looks like Sue is back in action again!

My little first plants!

 

[SweetSue]

Well, looks like Sue is back in action again!

My little first plants!

I'm sitting in Charlotte waiting for my flight. Just a short jump to Pittsburgh from here. I have four plants that may be harvested tomorrow - all Carnival clones. I may not be fully back in action for a few more days, although I will get a grow journal update done this weekend.

I've missed all you guys. Thankfully, Internet service can be spotty in Negril, forcing me to ignore all of you and appreciate Jamaica and the attitude of vacationing more. Lol!

 

[Magnus8]

Just wanted to let everyone (anyone who knows me and is interested, that is) know that I have some great news!

I FINALLY got my MMJ status today! As of 2:00 p.m. today, I can finally buy 4 grams/day of medical marijuana from the Canadian Licensed Providers. After so many hassles with my pain clinic, after all the we'll sees and i don't knows and we want you to see a psychs and all that shit, I went to a new clinic today and within 45 minutes had my license!

Finally.

No more hassles (except those set up by the Canadian Govt), no more problems (except those set up by the Canadian govt), no more barriers (except those set up by the Canadian Govt), I'm finally able to legally treat my condition(s) properly, accordingly, safely and without any more opiods. This is wonderful news for me and my wife-bot who has been down this road with me for as long as I have.

My prescription allows for 4 grams/day of use, which works out to exactly 4-2/7 ounces per month, which will hopefully be enough to make some oils and edibles, neither of which have I ever made before. Hell I haven't even used cannabis in over 4 years, and then I used it very occasionally for about 2 years. Before that, I used it about once per day for a year, and before that I hadn't touched it since I was 15-years-old. So I'm still kinda a newbie with cannabis.

At first, when the doctor told me my prescription, I wondered to myself whether that would be enough. Maybe some of you could help me with this issue. How long would a vial of oil last me if I make it with 1 of my 4 ounces that I'm allowed per month? (Another ounce I'll reserve for edibles, another ounce for vegetable glycerin tincture to use under my tongue and in my ejuice, and the last one for smoking.) I know this is a hard question, but keep in mind my lack of usage in my life (I'll be 50-years-old at the end of this year so obviously I'm NOT a heavy user hahaha). But you must also keep in mind my level of pain. It is centered in my back, but it is excruciating. And I will need to smoke or vape the moment I wake in order to be able to make it from the bedroom to the kitchen. Yes, it is that bad. To give you an idea, I am currently on a 200 mcg/hr Fentanyl patch(s). That's twice the normal dosage that is usually prescribed to a patient. I apply 2 of the largest dosages available to my abdomen every 2 days, when it is usually applied every 3 days. Yes, my pain is that bad. And I pop Tylenol 4s like they are sour gummies (which I've developed my own recipe for sour canna gummies, mind you, that I cannot wait to try). Keep, also, in mind that sour gummies are my absolutely favourite treat. Actually, you don't have to keep that in mind, but I have to. Don't want to overdose on sour gummies, Magnus! But what a way to go (yes, yes, I know I won't die, but it sure can feel like it).

So what do y'all think? Will 4 grams/day, or 4 ounces per month, last me the whole month? And please don't just flame me by telling me that it's an impossible question to answer. If it's impossible to answer, then please save your fingers the hassle and don't even try. I will have a chance to increase the dosage of the prescription in 3 months at my follow up appointment with the dr, and I will not have a chance to try out the full prescription before then. For lots of reasons, primarily money. Then why would I even bother asking if I cannot afford it? Because I can afford to grow it, and 4 grams/day equals to 20 plants growing in my spare bedroom according to the Canadian govt. 5 grams/day equals to 25 growing, living, thriving, nute-consuming plants in my spare back bedroom, according to the govt. And 6 grams/day equals to 30 of those same little beasties growing in the bedroom at the back of the trailer. You get the math. I don't think they'd give me more than 6 grams/day and even I don't think I'd need that. Mind you, it might bring in some extra cash if the world finally gave me a break. But that's MY sob story that you don't need to be privy to. (I hope I'm keeping you entertained... Funny is a natural state of grace for me.)

So what do you honestly think? Would 4 grams/day be enough? Or should/could I reasonably ask for more without sounding greedy-and-like-I-wanna-sell-the-stuff? And please don't misunderstand. I never got on this merry-go-round for the money. It's just that, given the right circumstances, an extra $500 bucks a month would help a lot when I only make $1588/month cold hard cash. Now, there's a slim opportunity coming down my way that might make me some cash (I scored a book deal on my novel that I wrote this summer), but as any writer would tell you, hey that's a slim bloody chance cuz first novels DON'T make a writer any money. But that slim opportunity is still a looooong ways away. The release date on the novel isn't until 14 Nov 17, and I won't see a dime for at least 6 months from that date, if I do even see a dime. So now you see why that extra $500 a month would come in so very handy. Nutrients are expensive, for gawd's sake!

Yeah, I'm joking a bunch here. I don't think I'd ever sell any of my cannabis. It's not my style. As you must probably have figured out by now, I'm not really into that lifestyle.

But as for not being sure if the prescription is going to be enough, that I am very serious about. If you can help me figure that out, I would be very grateful. And since I won't know if 4 grams/day will be enough until after I have a first grow in, that'll be after the 3 month appointment when I've got a chance to change it. Which is why I need your help. Full circle yet? I hope so. But as for the prescription...

I'm thrilled.

Just thrilled.

Ab-so-fuck-ing-lute-ly thrilled.

Don't know how else to put it.

 

[HashGirl]

Magnus, I've never made oil with a whole ounce. The most I've ever infused oil with is 6 grams in 60 ml of oil, which I made in December and I'm only about half way through the bottle. Of course I don't have to deal with everything that you do but I really do think you'll be surprised how long the oil will last in your system. The thing about edibles is that they take awhile to kick in but once they do, they generally last hours so you end up going through less cannabis than you would if you were smoking or vaping it.

Congrats on the new licence! I'm so glad you finally got it.

Just wanted to let everyone (anyone who knows me and is interested, that is) know that I have some great news!

I FINALLY got my MMJ status today! As of 2:00 p.m. today, I can finally buy 4 grams/day of medical marijuana from the Canadian Licensed Providers. After so many hassles with my pain clinic, after all the we'll sees and i don't knows and we want you to see a psychs and all that shit, I went to a new clinic today and within 45 minutes had my license!

Finally.

No more hassles (except those set up by the Canadian Govt), no more problems (except those set up by the Canadian govt), no more barriers (except those set up by the Canadian Govt), I'm finally able to legally treat my condition(s) properly, accordingly, safely and without any more opiods. This is wonderful news for me and my wife-bot who has been down this road with me for as long as I have.

My prescription allows for 4 grams/day of use, which works out to exactly 4-2/7 ounces per month, which will hopefully be enough to make some oils and edibles, neither of which have I ever made before. Hell I haven't even used cannabis in over 4 years, and then I used it very occasionally for about 2 years. Before that, I used it about once per day for a year, and before that I hadn't touched it since I was 15-years-old. So I'm still kinda a newbie with cannabis.

At first, when the doctor told me my prescription, I wondered to myself whether that would be enough. Maybe some of you could help me with this issue. How long would a vial of oil last me if I make it with 1 of my 4 ounces that I'm allowed per month? (Another ounce I'll reserve for edibles, another ounce for vegetable glycerin tincture to use under my tongue and in my ejuice, and the last one for smoking.) I know this is a hard question, but keep in mind my lack of usage in my life (I'll be 50-years-old at the end of this year so obviously I'm NOT a heavy user hahaha). But you must also keep in mind my level of pain. It is centered in my back, but it is excruciating. And I will need to smoke or vape the moment I wake in order to be able to make it from the bedroom to the kitchen. Yes, it is that bad. To give you an idea, I am currently on a 200 mcg/hr Fentanyl patch(s). That's twice the normal dosage that is usually prescribed to a patient. I apply 2 of the largest dosages available to my abdomen every 2 days, when it is usually applied every 3 days. Yes, my pain is that bad. And I pop Tylenol 4s like they are sour gummies (which I've developed my own recipe for sour canna gummies, mind you, that I cannot wait to try). Keep, also, in mind that sour gummies are my absolutely favourite treat. Actually, you don't have to keep that in mind, but I have to. Don't want to overdose on sour gummies, Magnus! But what a way to go (yes, yes, I know I won't die, but it sure can feel like it).

So what do y'all think? Will 4 grams/day, or 4 ounces per month, last me the whole month? And please don't just flame me by telling me that it's an impossible question to answer. If it's impossible to answer, then please save your fingers the hassle and don't even try. I will have a chance to increase the dosage of the prescription in 3 months at my follow up appointment with the dr, and I will not have a chance to try out the full prescription before then. For lots of reasons, primarily money. Then why would I even bother asking if I cannot afford it? Because I can afford to grow it, and 4 grams/day equals to 20 plants growing in my spare bedroom according to the Canadian govt. 5 grams/day equals to 25 growing, living, thriving, nute-consuming plants in my spare back bedroom, according to the govt. And 6 grams/day equals to 30 of those same little beasties growing in the bedroom at the back of the trailer. You get the math. I don't think they'd give me more than 6 grams/day and even I don't think I'd need that. Mind you, it might bring in some extra cash if the world finally gave me a break. But that's MY sob story that you don't need to be privy to. (I hope I'm keeping you entertained... Funny is a natural state of grace for me.)

So what do you honestly think? Would 4 grams/day be enough? Or should/could I reasonably ask for more without sounding greedy-and-like-I-wanna-sell-the-stuff? And please don't misunderstand. I never got on this merry-go-round for the money. It's just that, given the right circumstances, an extra $500 bucks a month would help a lot when I only make $1588/month cold hard cash. Now, there's a slim opportunity coming down my way that might make me some cash (I scored a book deal on my novel that I wrote this summer), but as any writer would tell you, hey that's a slim bloody chance cuz first novels DON'T make a writer any money. But that slim opportunity is still a looooong ways away. The release date on the novel isn't until 14 Nov 17, and I won't see a dime for at least 6 months from that date, if I do even see a dime. So now you see why that extra $500 a month would come in so very handy. Nutrients are expensive, for gawd's sake!

Yeah, I'm joking a bunch here. I don't think I'd ever sell any of my cannabis. It's not my style. As you must probably have figured out by now, I'm not really into that lifestyle.

But as for not being sure if the prescription is going to be enough, that I am very serious about. If you can help me figure that out, I would be very grateful. And since I won't know if 4 grams/day will be enough until after I have a first grow in, that'll be after the 3 month appointment when I've got a chance to change it. Which is why I need your help. Full circle yet? I hope so. But as for the prescription...

I'm thrilled.

Just thrilled.

Ab-so-fuck-ing-lute-ly thrilled.

Don't know how else to put it.

 

[Magnus8]

Thanks, HashGirl, for the congratulations part AND the info on the oil you make.

I'm a bit confused here, though, about how you make your oil and the kind of oil I was thinking of making. Maybe they're the same thing. I don't know.'

The oil I was planning on producing is done by taking Alcohol and extracting the cannabinoids from the buds by washing the buds with the alcohol, then taking that alcohol and reducing it more and more and more in a rice cooker or double boiler until I'm left with this sticky pasty like oil substance that is very, very thick. Apparently you dose by taking only a very small amount into your system through eating it.

Is this the same stuff you are talking about? When you said that you infuse it with 6 grams of bud in 60 ml of oil it sounds like more of an infusion rather than a reduction. Would they even be comparable? I should have been more clear, but I'm caught by my own confusion not having done any of this before and therefore not knowing how to properly describe what I'm talking about. I didn't even think of infusing oil with bud. That would work out nicely too as an edible. But I'm hell bent on trying this method since I've seen so many damned YouTube videos on it and how to do it. I got the method off all those Rick Simpson Oil videos that are being done lately.

 

[Danolo]

Hey Magnus, I share your confusion. It took a while, but I think I understand it all...

The method you plan to follow will result in Concentrated Cannabis Oil (CCO). As I understand it, that is a concentrated extraction of the essential oils of the cannabis plant. It contains all the "essential" ingredients that we seek.

The other method is transferring the essential ingredients directly into a carrier oil, and then ingesting via brownies, cookies, bio bombs, whatever...

My experience was solely with CCO I purchased at a dispensary, so I did not have the comfort about quality that you will have, using your own source buds.

I did find a reliable (so far) source and am now making Bio Bombs. We ended up doing this because we just didn't "get" tacking. I suspect the oil was too fluid and it just made a mess. Bio bombs, particularly when taken like a suppository, are working for us. After about a week of daily dosing, my wife is having definite improvement, in both pain relief, and ease of movement.

Take care...

 

[Magnus8]

Hey Magnus, I share your confusion. It took a while, but I think I understand it all...

The method you plan to follow will result in Concentrated Cannabis Oil (CCO). As I understand it, that is a concentrated extraction of the essential oils of the cannabis plant. It contains all the "essential" ingredients that we seek.

The other method is transferring the essential ingredients directly into a carrier oil, and then ingesting via brownies, cookies, bio bombs, whatever...

My experience was solely with CCO I purchased at a dispensary, so I did not have the comfort about quality that you will have, using your own source buds.

I did find a reliable (so far) source and am now making Bio Bombs. We ended up doing this because we just didn't "get" tacking. I suspect the oil was too fluid and it just made a mess. Bio bombs, particularly when taken like a suppository, are working for us. After about a week of daily dosing, my wife is having definite improvement, in both pain relief, and ease of movement.

Take care...

Thanks, Danolo, for clarifying that for me. I appreciate it very much. The first time I've understood the difference between the two oils. I'll be sure to clarify which oil I'm talking about from now on.

And so what are BioBombs? I've come across the term before in this study hall, but have no idea what they are. Would you be so kind as to clarify what they are, too? I certainly would appreciate it if you have time/inclination.

 

[Danolo]

Thanks, Danolo, for clarifying that for me. I appreciate it very much. The first time I've understood the difference between the two oils. I'll be sure to clarify which oil I'm talking about from now on.

And so what are BioBombs? I've come across the term before in this study hall, but have no idea what they are. Would you be so kind as to clarify what they are, too? I certainly would appreciate it if you have time/inclination.

Bio Bombs are a recipe of CCO, carrier oil and Liquid lecithin, in proportions to enhance bio-availability.

Sue is the expert and I think we should let her answer.

I do have the recipes and will post here next.

 

[rikvasen]

Bio Bombs are a recipe of CCO, carrier oil and Liquid lecithin, in proportions to enhance bio-availability.

Sue is the expert and I think we should let her answer.

I do have the recipes and will post here next.

I would love to know your recipe though .

My little first plants!

 

[Danolo]

Ok, cc's stand for cubic centimeters, and here's a handy guide:

One Cubic centimeter (cc) equals one milliliter and weighs about 1 gram.

So, the one gram syringes hold about one milliliter, or one cc.

So, the one gram syringes hold one gram, or 1000 milligrams, or 1 cc of Concentrated Cannibis oil.

Now the recipe reads:

20:1 = 1 cc of CCO + 16 cc carrier oil + 4 cc's lecithin.

That produces 21 cc's of total mix which when encapsulated into 00 caps (which each hold 1 cc) you end up with 21 bio bomb caps.

For my use, I doubled the recipe, and there for produced 42 bio bombs. (Actually I got about 44.)

Like this: 2 cc's of CCO + 32 cc's olive oil = 8 cc's of lecithin.
That adds up as 2 + 32 + 8 = 42 cc's of mix.
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Now, my next step is to move to 10:1.

Again, I want to end up with about 40+ capsules - 2 a day for 20 days.

The original recipe reads:

10:1 = 1 cc CCO + 8 cc carrier oil + 2 cc lecithin.
This adds up to 1 + 8 + 2 = 11 cc of mix which would produce 11 bio bombs.

If I want 40+ capsules, I need to quadruple the recipe like this:
4 cc's CCO + 32 cc's olive oil + 8 cc's lecithin.
This adds up to 4 + 32 + 8 = 44 cc's which make into 44 bio bombs.

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and for 5:1 the recipe reads:
5:1 = 1 cc CCO + 4 cc Carrier Oil = 1 cc lecithin
which adds up to 1 + 4 + 1 = 6 cc's which makes 6 bio bombs.

If I want 40+ capsules , in need to multiply the quantities by eight.
Like this:
8 cc's CCO + 32 cc's of oilve oil + 8 cc's lecithin
This add up to 8 + 32 + 8 = 48 cc's. which makes into 48 bio bombs.

That's it!

I used cc's because I have a syringe marked in cc's so it was easy to suck up and measure the ingredients, and I also use the syringe to fill the caps.

I hope this helps.

 

[Danolo]

One thing I realised after I made first batch, I may have made too many. Two a day for 21 days may work very well for my wife's RA, but I'm learning from others that are treating cancer, they double the concentration every four days.

I'm not sure what dosage to use... :stay with the plan of two a day for 21 days or increase the dosage sooner. She's now on about day 8 of the 20;1 and is experiencing significant healing.