Starting A Continuous Harvest Grow - Need Advice

[4our8ighty0]

the mods would have moved it as it no longer is an intro thread really

Ok I see,makes sense I was Soo fried when I was on yesterday I was thinking I could have started the process n forgot to finish lolol. I think the mods must have changed it for me cuz it is mostly a grow journal anyway. So that's awesome tho get to keep every thing like ladycannafan said.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Congrats, you have a journal. LOL And all of your posts and replies to the previous thread are here.
Rock it dude!
(Btw, I am not responsible for this happening. As bluter said, the mods probably assisted in doing that)

Yea I'm kinda sikked I don't have to start over,I gonna fill out the info this but I'm not sure how to change an old post ? Maybe I can edit first post w grow info?

 

[4our8ighty0]

Got one of my packages n it was my grow pots... unfortunately I gotta contradict myself n use plastic 1 gal pots,they are sooo cheap and the lowest pots I could find,plus I can cut these if necassary!!! They will only veg for around 6 wks in these pots then I'll transplant to 5 gal fabric to finish and flower. Look how low they are tho...

I will transplant these 6 veg girls today....

I think this will really make things easier,I can water less,bury stems deeper when coming outta the clone dome,I can tie off when training to pot n keep them low as possible

 

[Sativa1970]

Ok nice good to know, so I could use my fav future keepers and mix them,then breed it out by selecting best phenos to grow out and eventually stabilize the genetics over time ? Also when I do breed my keepers does the adaptions to my grow environment pass on to new seeds ? Or is that even more long term than a few generations required to stabilize a seed?

You can only edit a post for a short time. Think you have 420 minutes. If you want to change the tittle of the thread you can click on the "report" tab and send a request in the comment section. Admin will just change it for you of send you a DM response.

If you grow the hybrid mix seeds you then select what plant genetic line you want. Self pollenating that one plant and then selecting it's identical child continues until all of the seeds grow into near identical children. This can take 12 generations to achieve "stable" genetics. Much longer and more evolved process than feminizing.

The plant isn't adapting to your environment technically. Genetic traits and mutations are a random role of the dice. Fem and stable genetics are like loaded dice. Not a guarantee but odds are in your favor. Every seed is a new role. One of the numbers that come up on a seed will just happen to prefer your environment. You selecting that seed to continue the genetic line reinforces the adaptation chance in future offspring. By picking the healthiest plant you are inadvertently creating a strain that prefers your environment.

 

[4our8ighty0]

You can only edit a post for a short time. Think you have 420 minutes. If you want to change the tittle of the thread you can click on the "report" tab and send a request in the comment section. Admin will just change it for you of send you a DM response.

If you grow the hybrid mix seeds you then select what plant genetic line you want. Self pollenating that one plant and then selecting it's identical child continues until all of the seeds grow into near identical children. This can take 12 generations to achieve "stable" genetics. Much longer and more evolved process than feminizing.

The plant isn't adapting to your environment technically. Genetic traits and mutations are a random role of the dice. Fem and stable genetics are like loaded dice. Not a guarantee but odds are in your favor. Every seed is a new role. One of the numbers that come up on a seed will just happen to prefer your environment. You selecting that seed to continue the genetic line reinforces the adaptation chance in future offspring. By picking the healthiest plant you are inadvertently creating a strain that prefers your environment.

Oh I see,that's so sick bro. Yea maybe I just stick w fem seeds for now ,I don't think I ready for that level yet lol. Thank you for the information bro this is very interesting. So just to know how long would it take to stabilize fem seeds ? How many generation?

 

[4our8ighty0]

Ok transplanted veg plants to 1 gal pots and they fit nicely...

Took some root pics and they much more disappointing than the first batch. Roots are fewer and further apart,and some seem to have taken on a brown tint....

Over all they are healthy and growing fine,but the plants with very thin and whispy stems are the ones with weak or browning roots. I will most likely cull these things whispys but I will wait until after I see how many keepers I end up with after flower. This will give the whimpys some time to catch up. I will wait a few days to let them adjust to new home then I'll start watering the 4 weak whispys with very diluted peroxide to help the roots clean up and nuke any bad bacteria that's causing root browning then restart them with a microbe tea. Other than that these lady's are in perfect health and coming along on schedule.

 

[Sativa1970]

If you are starting with a commercial feminized seed that grew into pure female "Sinsemilla", the seeds C silver produces would be fully feminized.

Commercial fem seed that hermed could be stable re-femed in a couple generations.

Non fem commercial seed around 3-4 generations of self pollenating sinsemilla plant decedents would create stable fem seeds. Commercial plants have already selected for a closer to 60% female, 30% male and 10% herm loaded dice.

If you stumbled on a wild growing patch of cannabis you are at 33% pure female sinssemilla. It could take 5-9 generations to have stable fem.

Key is you have to grow enough seeds or get lucky enough to grow the strongest sinsemilla plant genetics from each generation. If any pollen from a not sensamilla plant cross pollenates, it will set back your progress by possibly adding a Y chromosome to the seeds.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Ahh ok I get it so,the shortest route is breeder fem seeds Hermed with c.silver? Im pretty sure the bag seeds I'm growing from are all dispo fems at least the 20 I popped first. So assuming these are intentionally bred fems I could end up with stable seeds from my future keepers in 1 pollination session, the issue would be sifting thru the seeds for the keeper pheno ? But I could get lucky and find it in first 20 seeds,Possibly shorter if I'm lucky?

 

[Sativa1970]

Seeds per oz is a good indicator of how close you are to feminized. Percentage of female indicated how dominant the X chromosome is. Each generation get you closer.

Back in the late 70s early 80s I would get 3lb bundles of land strains. When I got an exceptional bundle with one or two seeds per oz I kept them. Within one or two generations of feminizing I had a stable sensamilla seed bank.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Seeds per oz is a good indicator of how close you are to feminized. Percentage of female indicated how dominant the X chromosome is. Each generation get you closer.

Back in the late 70s early 80s I would get 3lb bundles of land strains. When I got an exceptional bundle with one or two seeds per oz I kept them. Within one or two generations of feminizing I had a stable sensamilla seed bank.

Yea I bet stabilization was a lot faster back then,the genetics were so damn clean,not like today. Lmao I never thought of that but breeding back in your time was probably a lot easier n faster ? Much less genetics to have to sift thru. You alo talking about a regular reproducing genetic plant that eventually produces a fem right?

 

[4our8ighty0]

Seeds per oz is a good indicator of how close you are to feminized. Percentage of female indicated how dominant the X chromosome is. Each generation get you closer.

Back in the late 70s early 80s I would get 3lb bundles of land strains. When I got an exceptional bundle with one or two seeds per oz I kept them. Within one or two generations of feminizing I had a stable sensamilla seed bank.

Seeds per oz determines how close you are to fem ? You mean natural reproducing right?

 

[4our8ighty0]

Seeds per oz is a good indicator of how close you are to feminized. Percentage of female indicated how dominant the X chromosome is. Each generation get you closer.

Back in the late 70s early 80s I would get 3lb bundles of land strains. When I got an exceptional bundle with one or two seeds per oz I kept them. Within one or two generations of feminizing I had a stable sensamilla seed bank.

So can you elaborate? How does seed per ounce relate to fem ? I thought fems did not occur naturally?

 

[4our8ighty0]

So can you elaborate? How does seed per ounce relate to fem ? I thought fems did not occur naturally?

Or do you mean once you have started the fem process ? I thought fems where only artificially induced ? How can parents 2 genetics produce a set with no male genetics ?

 

[4our8ighty0]

Gm, 4 ladies looking damn good and 2 new kids(bottom row 2 furthest to the right side) looking thirsty. The first day or 2 of transplant always stressful for me,I once had 3 plants die of dehydration same day I transplanted !!! They was sitting in wet soil and still dehydrated to death....well....they may have been pretty root bound ....so I think they couldn't get to the moist soil in time lol but I still traumatized....so watered new girls in a ring around outside of pot to encourage roots to chase and watered other girls same way. The original 4 plants have darkened up and only show minimal soil burn on lowest leaf sets. The 2 new girls are darkening quickly. Things look good,just gonna veg them out a bit more than flip.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Sorry.....

 

[4our8ighty0]

Ok so I finished my grow info form but I don't know where I should post it?? I don't want to leave grow unlabeled but I can't edit my first post ? Maybe mods can post the grow info for me ? So it's not like looking for a needle when looking for details ? Who could I ask about this ?

 

[4our8ighty0]

I am also noticing how fast these other 4 are taking off after transplant,these girls gonna produce for me,I can feel it.

This my fav right now for various reasons...

Bottom row furthest left,seems to be a bit behind all the others. It is the only one in flower room batch that was successfully fim'ed, could the fim have this delayed effect or is it just a bit behind ?

The veg room girls looking happy and recovering from transplant very quickly,it's already time to raise light and topp them but I will let them recover from transplant and then I'll be topping them.

I will start lining new cabinet/grow room and will post when finished

 

[Preston9mm]

I am also noticing how fast these other 4 are taking off after transplant,these girls gonna produce for me,I can feel it.

This my fav right now for various reasons...

Bottom row furthest left,seems to be a bit behind all the others. It is the only one in flower room batch that was successfully fim'ed, could the fim have this delayed effect or is it just a bit behind ?

The veg room girls looking happy and recovering from transplant very quickly,it's already time to raise light and topp them but I will let them recover from transplant and then I'll be topping them.

I will start lining new cabinet/grow room and will post when finished

Looking great!

 

[Sativa1970]

So can you elaborate? How does seed per ounce relate to fem ? I thought fems did not occur naturally?

Natural growing plants can be pure male or female but are most likely some range of herm. Why the bag has seeds. The more female leaning the fewer pollen pods thus fewer seeds. A male full of pods next to a female will produce a lot of seeds. A field full of heavy female leaning plants will only have a few pods to create a low number of seeds. Those seeds will be heavily female herm leaning.

Fem plants do occur in nature, and can be selected with a bit of help. They are referred to as sensemilla, Spanish for without seed. When the field of plants begins to flower anything that presents male pods are chopped and removed. Now your field is only pure females and a few herm that are female dominant with one or two pollen pods that slipped through. When you collect those seeds you have XX female and XyX fem/herm cross. The % of male and herm will be lower in those seeds with each harvest, with recessive y chromosomes. The seeds are not feminized but have fem dominant tendency.

At 2 seeds per oz I would plant 12 seeds. 10 would be female, 1 with a naner or two, and one would be male. I would clone 2, chop the male, and let the rest go to harvest. Seeds from that harvest were held in emergency reserve. With the luck of the shmuck I have picked the herm and male as the 2 clones in the past. The clone, if female, would be treated with C silver over the winter in a micro grow for spring seeds. Those next 12 seeds averaged 11 female and 1 with a few naners. Every generation pushes more X dominant so stable feminization. You can never fully remove the Y possibility. Why commercial fem seeds still occasionally turn herm.

 

[Sativa1970]

Ok so I finished my grow info form but I don't know where I should post it?? I don't want to leave grow unlabeled but I can't edit my first post ? Maybe mods can post the grow info for me ? So it's not like looking for a needle when looking for details ? Who could I ask about this ?

Did you try clicking on the "report" tab in the bottom left of your post, and ask there? That sends the message to admin. Also when you are done with this journal and want to end it you use this to request they close the journal. They will respond with a private direct mesg.