Probably not best to do at flip then I'd say.
Stanks Go Perpetual In 2018!
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Well I ain't gonna veg her any longer LOL. Certainly not in a 15 gallon pot. If I do it, I will transplant and flip. Can't keep her in the veg tent any longer than possible
I've now switched to plastic pots so I don't do it anymore but yeah you could transplant them and once they bust through flip them but then the get even bigger. I just felt it was better than ripping them out of the smart pot or cutting the bag off and having to pitch it.
If you do want to get her out, get another set of hands and flip it upside down. Someone hold the trunk and then just give a quick tug from the bottom, the bag should come off pretty easily.
MiOutdoorsman
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That NL is aching for a flip! But I always wait a week or two after a transplant to flip
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yeah I use plastics for veg and then transplant into final smart pot. Wasn't expecting to be up potting this girl again LOL.
I might do this more often as I get more vermi composting bins and more soil to work with. I love the idea of growing em big if I have the soil. Might need to mix up one more batch of Stank Soil to be able to make this work. That will give me about 180 gallons of soil. I think I could work up to all 10s and 15s with that amount of soil.
I might do this more often as I get more vermi composting bins and more soil to work with. I love the idea of growing em big if I have the soil. Might need to mix up one more batch of Stank Soil to be able to make this work. That will give me about 180 gallons of soil. I think I could work up to all 10s and 15s with that amount of soil.
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I was just gonna prop her up on a 5 gallon bucket, run a ruler around the inside of the smart pot to break all the roots loose from the bag and then just roll it down over the 5 gallon bucket.
That will up your production quite a lot!
It still sucks, there are a ton of roots in the bottom of the pot. Those I bet have grown through the bag already, especially if you pour water into the saucer to wick up. When I emptied my bags after harvest I just flip them over, grab each side and give a quick jerk and the root ball drops right out.
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Oh she wants to flower badly! I can't even imagine how much she will shoot up if I let her stay in the 15 for a week before flipping. I know what they do when they go from solo cup to 2 gallon pot and then from the 2 gallon pot to the 7 or 10 gallon pot. I would expect some serious growth over a 5 day period.
I do have 10 gallons of Stank Soil left but I have been saving that for up potting the white widow. Would probably be more than enough to get her into the 15 gallon pot and I wouldn't need wait for the soil to finish cooking. Still can't move her to the big tent until something is ready for harvest.
Maybe I should look at trichomes LOL.
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OH I definitely bottom water about a third of my total water. So I know the roots are at the bottom. But I don't mind ripping them off.
I think I have made my mind up to do the 15 gallon pot. I just need to room in the big tent. I will make the soil situation work one way or another. I still have a single bag of Kind Soil as an emergency bag of soil. If the widow starts showing any deficiencies, I can up pot her to a slightly bigger pot and use the Kind Soil.
So it really boils down to a plant finishing. Was hoping that @bobrown14 trick of using ground malted barley to shorten flowering time would work. Still might if it finishes in the next week.....but she is still throwing pistils so might be closer to 10-14 days.
MiOutdoorsman
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That girl is gonna be a frickin tree! I wouldn't worry too much about the up potting. She's healthy as hell. She won't miss a beat
I think we can all see where this is going. More soil, bigger pots = new bigger tent and lights. You mark my words........LOL
MiOutdoorsman
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I saw this today while window shopping for seeds ( like I don't have enough ) have you heard of Azure Haze?
That should be a solid cross, i have JD’s XBJ16. (Space Dog x Blueberry F4)
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I have seen that strain. Eventually I would love to get around to trying it out in a side by side grow with a few different breeders version of Blue Dream.
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White Widow Mainlining Veg Day 41
This girl was starting to get her legs under her, so thats the perfect time to do our next round of toppings. We had 4 mains after last week's toppings but we need to turn that into 8.
One thing I want to bring up to anyone considering main lining. Learn the directions that nodes grow. The alternate 90 degrees each new node. This is important because when you are main lining, you will want the new mains to go where you want them. Double check to make sure its the direction you want it to go AND make sure you are cutting the correct shoot. A quick cut can ruin your main lining.
So here we go.......Here she is tonight before getting butchered
And here are the 4 mains
Now here is where I say its important to make sure you have your nodes growing the direction you want. You see the side shot of 2nd topping I did. It is perpendicular to the initial topping. I want to make the next topping perpendicular to this side topping so that I can spread the new tops out around the perimeter....not back towards the middle of the plant.
Here is one of the mains that I will top. Make sure I find the correct node growing the direction I want them to grow. If there isn't one, you need to let the plant grow more and throw a new node that will alternate back.
And afterwards
I know the point I am trying to make about node direction is tough to explain in a 2 dimensional picture but imagine the lines on these next pics show the direction that the shoots would grow if allowed to. If anyone doesn't completely understand, please speak up.
Once you have topped her, start removing all other growth like these two side shoots
And now repeat on all the remaining mains.....
Once you are done, your plant will or should look something like this.
And now this pic shows how the new mains will grow. See that I am slowly making a circle shape around the perimeter.
I will give her another week or so and see how her 8 mains are looking. If they have grown enough, I will turn the 8 tops into 16 and then let her go vertical for a couple weeks and flip her. Now if her growth is stunted too much and she is very slow to recover, I will let her go at 8 tops.....but the goal is 16 if she is willing to give it to me.
This girl was starting to get her legs under her, so thats the perfect time to do our next round of toppings. We had 4 mains after last week's toppings but we need to turn that into 8.
One thing I want to bring up to anyone considering main lining. Learn the directions that nodes grow. The alternate 90 degrees each new node. This is important because when you are main lining, you will want the new mains to go where you want them. Double check to make sure its the direction you want it to go AND make sure you are cutting the correct shoot. A quick cut can ruin your main lining.
So here we go.......Here she is tonight before getting butchered
And here are the 4 mains
Now here is where I say its important to make sure you have your nodes growing the direction you want. You see the side shot of 2nd topping I did. It is perpendicular to the initial topping. I want to make the next topping perpendicular to this side topping so that I can spread the new tops out around the perimeter....not back towards the middle of the plant.
Here is one of the mains that I will top. Make sure I find the correct node growing the direction I want them to grow. If there isn't one, you need to let the plant grow more and throw a new node that will alternate back.
And afterwards
I know the point I am trying to make about node direction is tough to explain in a 2 dimensional picture but imagine the lines on these next pics show the direction that the shoots would grow if allowed to. If anyone doesn't completely understand, please speak up.
Once you have topped her, start removing all other growth like these two side shoots
And now repeat on all the remaining mains.....
Once you are done, your plant will or should look something like this.
And now this pic shows how the new mains will grow. See that I am slowly making a circle shape around the perimeter.
I will give her another week or so and see how her 8 mains are looking. If they have grown enough, I will turn the 8 tops into 16 and then let her go vertical for a couple weeks and flip her. Now if her growth is stunted too much and she is very slow to recover, I will let her go at 8 tops.....but the goal is 16 if she is willing to give it to me.
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Also, you notice the little growth in the middle? Thats a little shoot for a potential clone in case this girl decides to impress me.
You will also notice I like to keep the big fan leaf from the previous topping. Its a great solar panel and I think it helps the plant restore the energy needed to grow aggressively.
You will also notice I like to keep the big fan leaf from the previous topping. Its a great solar panel and I think it helps the plant restore the energy needed to grow aggressively.
SofaKing Dope
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Wow!, Stankberry!
The entire lineup looks incredible, but how cool is it to have your own genetics when they look that amazing. I was watching you guys thread before the app changed over but i musta lost ya. Glad i found my way back!! Seriously those SB pics look next level i bet it smells phenomenal in there surrounded by all those frosty towers!
The entire lineup looks incredible, but how cool is it to have your own genetics when they look that amazing. I was watching you guys thread before the app changed over but i musta lost ya. Glad i found my way back!! Seriously those SB pics look next level i bet it smells phenomenal in there surrounded by all those frosty towers!