Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

I don't know why I do this, I just want to solve a puzzle but I think I don't have enough tools or knowledge to solve my own fictionalized problem. Now I have to go and do some homework that I made for myself. Knowing where to go and look is half the battle...My first stop is: Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial

I feel you. This is what my brain does to me and then I end up doing a major immersion study for a weekend. LOL!
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

I had to read that a few times to realize you didn't mean bows and arrows. I may be a bit country.

Have you added anything to the soil or amended or topdressed? Do you have access to quality earthworm castings or compost?

The only thing I added to the soil was perlite when I started. Too much perlite is some of my issue, I think. Ive feed them FoxFarms nutrients several times, once a week, 6-7 days apart. First was 1/4 strength Big Bloom, then 1/4 strength Big Bloom and Grow Big, then 1/2 strength Big Bloom, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom, and then, last time, full strength of all three. The last feeding was this past Monday, so 4 days ago. Ive not given them anything else. I use rain water when I have it and tap water that has sat out if I dont have any rainwater. I have ph'd them both and my tap water PH's a little higher than the tap water and the run off is 6.

Oh, and to answer the last question.. No, I dont have access to those things right now.
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

I'd cut back to using only the Grow Big for a while, after observing any improvements or worsening from only water for a week or two. Let the soil dry until the leaves sag just a bit before you water.

I hope this is not an auto, just thought of that. If we are talking about an auto flower disregard everything in this post.
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

Its not an auto. My other plant is an auto and doing fine.

So, do I not do anything right now? Im pretty positive its nute burn. It has worsened in the last several hours. The rust spots are darker and the tips are twisted and brown now.

Her soil is pretty moist right now, even though I have done nothing to her except worry. lol I have to give her some epsom salts too, because she has a bit of a magnesium problem.

Do I flush her out and then redo the feeding with just the Grow Big or do I wait until her regular feeding time, which is Sunday, and just give water and Epsom Salt and nothing else?
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

if you said you have her in a lot of perlite id flush her asap as she wont be long drying again and you wont have to worry about over watering , just a thought ,
give her some epsoms next water then go back to food . i wouldnt just leave it to see what happens , it will burn more if you said she got worse in hours
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

Its not a lot worse, but it is worse.

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re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

What's new growth look like?
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

What's new growth look like?

The newest growth is as perfect as its always been. The browning doesnt go any higher than that leaf. The leaf left of center is the newest leaf affected. All the rest are the older, bigger leaves, like the one right of center.
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

Thelma and Louise - Day 45

Howdy yall. :blushsmile:

Today Thelma is looking wonderful. Shes starting to stretch a bit more. Thank goodness, too. Its so freaking humid here. Even my hardwood floors feel damp and sticky on my bare feet. I count 11 (of what I think are) tops on her. Is that pretty good? I added some water to her reservoir today and turned her a bit under the light. Im trying to get that slope to even up some more, but if it doesnt, I think Im happy with her shape, even if she could stand to lose a little girth inside. Really not that much to tell, but I have found a few more pistil sites. I might be getting a thing for pistil porn since she made me wait so long! hehe Ill let her do her own talking...

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On this photo you can see a couple of leaves that make wonder a little about what might be going on, if anything. Some of her leaves have formed a slight cup. I think its from this awful humidity.

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A little peak under her skirt. Im going to have to do something else for LST next time. These little hooks I made and pushed into the soil are not working very well. I picture that as she gets taller they will be swinging from the branches like monkeys. lol

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Louise, Louise, Louise. *sighs* I dont know what Im gonna do with her. Shes acting like a surly teenager and I had trouble getting pictures of her, but I did manage a couple of them.

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These are not her true colors. The LEDs were on, so disregard the shadings of the colors.

So, about her. Last night, really this morning, before I went to bed I ran a gallon of water through her with some epsom salts. Im hoping that will flush out some of whatever is bothering her and get her on a more even keel. I will be changing up her nutes, so from now on she will be getting her feeds a little differently than Thelma. Ill give her only 1/2 strength for now and Im still thinking about what Im gonna feed her exactly. Ill probably listen to Mr. 36. :blushsmile: I have all or most of next week to think about it. I want to give her some time to shake it off a little. *makes note to play that song for her, for encouragement* Anyway, she appears no worse today, so thats something, yeah? :blushsmile:

One last look before I get on with my day.

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Tata for now!
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

Oh, yes. I forgot. I took Louise off of her SWICK. Ill just have to do my own watering from now on. I have a question though. Is there any way to save the perlite to maybe use when shes flowering? Its all I have left, but I have no problem tossing it in garbage if it cant be cleaned or dried or used later.
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

cant see a problem using it over again .
I think you did the right thing given her plenty of water and some epsoms , if you can get a childs marker and mark the bad leaves , or snip the very tip of the bad ones , this well help you see if its spreading , ive had to do it my self once , this is when i found out baby milk was my hero haha

dont know if you can see the little red X

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re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

They look great Sorenna. Careful on your next feeding of Thelma as well, it looks like her leaf tips are slightly burnt as well.

I agree. Ill knock her back to 3/4 strength. But honestly, her leaves have been doing that since before I started feeding her. Its just a tiny little bit on the very tippy ends of some of the blades, but it never moves further into the leaf, but Ill still cut her back a little.
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

I agree. Ill knock her back to 3/4 strength. But honestly, her leaves have been doing that since before I started feeding her. Its just a tiny little bit on the very tippy ends of some of the blades, but it never moves further into the leaf, but Ill still cut her back a little.

Yeah, since I just gave my Short Rider a full feeding about 4 days ago I noticed she had the same on some leafs. I only gave her some cal-mag the next watering, but trying to decide if I want to give a full feeding next time.
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

cant see a problem using it over again .
I think you did the right thing given her plenty of water and some epsoms , if you can get a childs marker and mark the bad leaves , or snip the very tip of the bad ones , this well help you see if its spreading , ive had to do it my self once , this is when i found out baby milk was my hero haha

dont know if you can see the little red X

Yep, I can see your X's. Ill do something similar. I dont have any markers but I do have a felt tip pen.

Thank you. I thought about what to do about her issue and then I thought about it some more. I listened to what yall suggested and then I just did what felt right to me. It probably wasnt enough water, but I dont want to trade one issue for another. She didnt droop, at least not yet, so maybe itll be okay. :blushsmile:
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

Autos are not big fans of nutes , less is more :)

Let me ask this. Thelma is showing zero signs of magnesium problems. Should I give her a dose of epsom salts on her next feeding too, just because or just wait and let her tell me she wants it?

Also, I gave Louise her dose, do I need to do it again and if so, how often?
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

Let me ask this. Thelma is showing zero signs of magnesium problems. Should I give her a dose of epsom salts on her next feeding too, just because or just wait and let her tell me she wants it?

Also, I gave Louise her dose, do I need to do it again and if so, how often?

I would honestly wait. She looks amazing Sorenna. I didn't give mine any Cal-mag until I noticed a slight yellowing, which is easy to see under the LEDs.
 
re: Sorenna's - 2015 - THC Bomb Auto & Strawberry Blue - Soil - LED

Nitrogen and Magnesium deficiencies are often mistaken for each other. Please post a pic with true light of Louise and then hopefully some more experienced growers will come and help you out. I mean more experienced than me. Based on what I see in the Pictorial link I posted before this looks like Nitrogen deficiency to me but its not in proper light so its hard to tell.

excerpt from Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial:
Nitrogen is the biggest mobile element meaning it can travel anywhere on the plant.
Usually the def will start on the lower to middle part of the plant, and then will usually happen to older leaves first. Then the deficiency will work its way up the plant. Your plant can be green on top, then yellowing on the lower leaves when the deficiency is starting out. Yield will be greatly reduced without good amounts of nitrogen in your plants. Sometimes in bad cases the leaves will turn a purplish colour along with the yellowing.

Unlike a magnesium deficiency, nitrogen def will start from the tips and work its way back to the leaf node. Nitrogen and Magnesium get confused. The best way to tell them apart is, nitrogen deficiency starts around the tips and works its way to the back of the leaves, where a magnesium deficiency will cover the entire outer part of the leave and make the entire leaves yellow leaving the veins to stay green. If your plants are having a slow growth rate and have yellowing of the leaves, then most likely it’s a nitrogen deficiency.
 
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