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Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+
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Soil - Hydro - 2400w Led - 2000w HPS - 8 Strains - 1 GPW+
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Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+
Im sure its not mites but im not sure its fixed yet either, some of them look a little better than yesterday and some look the same, im not sure how long it should take to fix itself if I was right.Does anybody know how long a problem like this should take to correct itself?I know the leaves with damage wont get better but how long should it take for the raised ridges to go back to normal or the twisting?wow super glad I was wrong brother and super duper glad you got the problem figured out
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I made my drain line ~20ft (6-7m?) longer and it seems fine. I had space to put my barrel right next to the RO system, so I was able to use the already attached tubing for the RO output. I suspect it could be longer without any impact. I wouldn't try to move the water uphill though. Mount the RO high up on the wall so it's above the holding tank. Mine just uses the small 1/4" tubing like for an ice maker. In fact, I hooked mine up late one night, so I bought an ice maker kit from Walmart and threw away all the fittings to tap into the water line. All I wanted was the tubing.
I got mine from the filter guys. Google them and you'll find them. I have the Freshwater model, and will add the second membrane later.
I made my drain line ~20ft (6-7m?) longer and it seems fine. I had space to put my barrel right next to the RO system, so I was able to use the already attached tubing for the RO output. I suspect it could be longer without any impact. I wouldn't try to move the water uphill though. Mount the RO high up on the wall so it's above the holding tank. Mine just uses the small 1/4" tubing like for an ice maker. In fact, I hooked mine up late one night, so I bought an ice maker kit from Walmart and threw away all the fittings to tap into the water line. All I wanted was the tubing.
I got mine from the filter guys. Google them and you'll find them. I have the Freshwater model, and will add the second membrane later.
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Hey Jon, to me it seems like what I see on my plants is from a week ago, like if I overfeed them today I will see the damage in 7 days, might be wrong thats just how it seems to me. I hope you got your problem figured out if nothing else go back to what you were doing on your last successful grow and then go from there. Just my .02
Hey Jon, to me it seems like what I see on my plants is from a week ago, like if I overfeed them today I will see the damage in 7 days, might be wrong thats just how it seems to me. I hope you got your problem figured out if nothing else go back to what you were doing on your last successful grow and then go from there. Just my .02
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Aw man bummer just got on here to find you having a couple minor issues. I say minor since I know you will turn it around with all the help here at hand! You know a thing or two as well so with that wealth of knowledge combined everythings gonna be alright!!!
Need to go back and see what all the fuss is about now. haha
Aw man bummer just got on here to find you having a couple minor issues. I say minor since I know you will turn it around with all the help here at hand! You know a thing or two as well so with that wealth of knowledge combined everythings gonna be alright!!!
Need to go back and see what all the fuss is about now. haha
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Where in the system does the plant sit,
first bucket on the return ? the 1 furthest away from the res?
Where in the system does the plant sit,
first bucket on the return ? the 1 furthest away from the res?
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Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+
its all the plants bro system and soil some worse than others.Maybe the bugbombs had something to do with it? I sprayed 2 days before transplant.It started the day after transplant which is when I switched to BPN,thats why I think its not working well with my hardwater.I switched back to GH for now, if I dont see improvements soon its something else, I just dont have a clue what though.Im going to bring my ph meter to the hydro shop tomorrow to eliminate that possibility.some of the plants are showing signs of improvement, so hopefully they are on the mend.All of them are showing lots of healthy new root growth so thats a good sign
its all the plants bro system and soil some worse than others.Maybe the bugbombs had something to do with it? I sprayed 2 days before transplant.It started the day after transplant which is when I switched to BPN,thats why I think its not working well with my hardwater.I switched back to GH for now, if I dont see improvements soon its something else, I just dont have a clue what though.Im going to bring my ph meter to the hydro shop tomorrow to eliminate that possibility.some of the plants are showing signs of improvement, so hopefully they are on the mend.All of them are showing lots of healthy new root growth so thats a good sign
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its difinetly going to take a few days to see . you bug bombed with the plants in the room? i think you got it hardwater and regular micro will reek havoc. and didnt you say you were using 50% of gh rec dose and 80% of bpn's. i dont know how plant safe your bug bombs are?
its difinetly going to take a few days to see . you bug bombed with the plants in the room? i think you got it hardwater and regular micro will reek havoc. and didnt you say you were using 50% of gh rec dose and 80% of bpn's. i dont know how plant safe your bug bombs are?
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im running GH full strength now and my hydro shop said the bugbombs were plant friendly as long as they were mature. I took the clone and seedling out when i sprayed. I should know more in a few days i just need to be patient and when things arent right in there patients is not one of my virtues lol...the only other thing that can cause these symptoms is the ph being out of wack as far as I know so I ll know tomorrow
im running GH full strength now and my hydro shop said the bugbombs were plant friendly as long as they were mature. I took the clone and seedling out when i sprayed. I should know more in a few days i just need to be patient and when things arent right in there patients is not one of my virtues lol...the only other thing that can cause these symptoms is the ph being out of wack as far as I know so I ll know tomorrow
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i know what you mean, when my babies are sick and i dont no exactly what's wrong it stresses me out. my plants are like my children.
i'm sure you got it handled.
im running GH full strength now and my hydro shop said the bugbombs were plant friendly as long as they were mature. I took the clone and seedling out when i sprayed. I should know more in a few days i just need to be patient and when things arent right in there patients is not one of my virtues lol...the only other thing that can cause these symptoms is the ph being out of wack as far as I know so I ll know tomorrow
i know what you mean, when my babies are sick and i dont no exactly what's wrong it stresses me out. my plants are like my children.
i'm sure you got it handled.
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Go for what you know jon.
im running GH full strength now and my hydro shop said the bugbombs were plant friendly as long as they were mature. I took the clone and seedling out when i sprayed. I should know more in a few days i just need to be patient and when things arent right in there patients is not one of my virtues lol...the only other thing that can cause these symptoms is the ph being out of wack as far as I know so I ll know tomorrow
Go for what you know jon.
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Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+
I just got back from the hydro shop and theres nothing wrong with my meter, the ph is sitting at 5.7 right now. It looks like most of the plants under the led's are recovering but the plants under the hps look the same or even a bit worse, like the ridges have gotten more pronouced...im fucking baffelled with this one im running GH 3 part at full strength so the plants under the hps should be recovering to.
I just got back from the hydro shop and theres nothing wrong with my meter, the ph is sitting at 5.7 right now. It looks like most of the plants under the led's are recovering but the plants under the hps look the same or even a bit worse, like the ridges have gotten more pronouced...im fucking baffelled with this one im running GH 3 part at full strength so the plants under the hps should be recovering to.
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I'm certain that you know this, but in case someone reading isn't... you know 5.7 is a little low, right?
So it's not a ph problem, then what else could it be? It looked like an Mg problem to me. You said you had hard water. Are you using the 'regular' GH Flora Micro, or the 'Hardwater' version? I bought a gallon of the hardwater stuff when I started. After getting my RO system, I asked them what I should do. They said I should just add more calmag, so this tells me the difference between the 2 products is the Ca and Mg levels. That makes sense since that's what is in hardwater.
If you have hardwater AND you're using the 'regular' GH Micro, then you're probably locking out Mg or Ca. I think you said you were also using calmag? Is it too much effort or expense to flush and make a new res with no calmag? Maybe even try it with a little less Micro too?
It looks like an Mg issue to me and you did say you have hard water. I had hard water too, and it caused me problems. It is certainly a puzzle as to why you never noticed before. I hope you figure it out soon!
I'm certain that you know this, but in case someone reading isn't... you know 5.7 is a little low, right?
So it's not a ph problem, then what else could it be? It looked like an Mg problem to me. You said you had hard water. Are you using the 'regular' GH Flora Micro, or the 'Hardwater' version? I bought a gallon of the hardwater stuff when I started. After getting my RO system, I asked them what I should do. They said I should just add more calmag, so this tells me the difference between the 2 products is the Ca and Mg levels. That makes sense since that's what is in hardwater.
If you have hardwater AND you're using the 'regular' GH Micro, then you're probably locking out Mg or Ca. I think you said you were also using calmag? Is it too much effort or expense to flush and make a new res with no calmag? Maybe even try it with a little less Micro too?
It looks like an Mg issue to me and you did say you have hard water. I had hard water too, and it caused me problems. It is certainly a puzzle as to why you never noticed before. I hope you figure it out soon!
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yep I use hardwater micro with cal mag because with led's the plants use alot more cal/mag but im getting the new res tomorrow so tonight im going to flush and run fresh ph'ed water until I get the res tomorrow.why do you say 5.7 is low? during veg the ideal ph is 5.4 - 5.8 during flower its ideal from 5.8 to 6.1, different stages of growth need different ph, at least thats how i do it, pretty sure C does it this way to bro.The raised ridges isnt cal/mag its something else, Corey thinks its zinc, for all I know the bug bombs did this, tomorrow im going back to base nutes and seaweed with no cal/mag hopefully this helps, they're still growing, I need to flip soon.
yep I use hardwater micro with cal mag because with led's the plants use alot more cal/mag but im getting the new res tomorrow so tonight im going to flush and run fresh ph'ed water until I get the res tomorrow.why do you say 5.7 is low? during veg the ideal ph is 5.4 - 5.8 during flower its ideal from 5.8 to 6.1, different stages of growth need different ph, at least thats how i do it, pretty sure C does it this way to bro.The raised ridges isnt cal/mag its something else, Corey thinks its zinc, for all I know the bug bombs did this, tomorrow im going back to base nutes and seaweed with no cal/mag hopefully this helps, they're still growing, I need to flip soon.
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forgot to mention the leaves twisting, thats not cal/mag either it seems theres a few different things going on here, I just dont understand why yet, whats in the res now is exactly the same as before transplant when they were perfectly healthy so fingers crossed
forgot to mention the leaves twisting, thats not cal/mag either it seems theres a few different things going on here, I just dont understand why yet, whats in the res now is exactly the same as before transplant when they were perfectly healthy so fingers crossed
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I had never heard of using different ph during different stages. I have picked up lots of info from you
That's why I thought 5.7 was low if the goal is 5.9. Like I said, I am sure you had your ph under control, but I had to mention it.
I'm not sure about the raised edges, but I still thought some of those pics looked like Mg def. I'm curious to see what happens when you remove the calmag. I don't know what's in your water, but if the 'hardness' is mostly Ca, then adding more in the calmag could exacerbate the problem. I'm convinced my Mg issue at the start was due to high Ca in my hard water. Too much Ca can lockout Mg. I think I already asked this, but have you tried adding some epsom salts? Cheap and easy way to get extra Mg without any Ca.
I know you will figure it out, and you got people way more knowledgeable then I to help you. I just want to help if I can.
I had never heard of using different ph during different stages. I have picked up lots of info from you
That's why I thought 5.7 was low if the goal is 5.9. Like I said, I am sure you had your ph under control, but I had to mention it.
I'm not sure about the raised edges, but I still thought some of those pics looked like Mg def. I'm curious to see what happens when you remove the calmag. I don't know what's in your water, but if the 'hardness' is mostly Ca, then adding more in the calmag could exacerbate the problem. I'm convinced my Mg issue at the start was due to high Ca in my hard water. Too much Ca can lockout Mg. I think I already asked this, but have you tried adding some epsom salts? Cheap and easy way to get extra Mg without any Ca.
I know you will figure it out, and you got people way more knowledgeable then I to help you. I just want to help if I can.
ronnie6690
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hey jon can you pop over to my journal and look at some pics. i've got some yellow tips just on the new growth and not to bad yet. would love your opinion.
hey jon can you pop over to my journal and look at some pics. i've got some yellow tips just on the new growth and not to bad yet. would love your opinion.
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Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+
I found the epsom salt so its on standby bro, Im starting to think the bugbombs had something to do with it, maybe it was to close to the plants or something, I cant see how the BPN nutes caused this it doesnt make any sense to me. you usually see symptoms of defficiencies show up a few days after things go out of wack, so whatever caused this might have happened before the transplant... so many different things could of caused this, maybe they were weakend by the bugbombs and the combination of transplant and nute change screwed them up. Im sure they will recover
I found the epsom salt so its on standby bro, Im starting to think the bugbombs had something to do with it, maybe it was to close to the plants or something, I cant see how the BPN nutes caused this it doesnt make any sense to me. you usually see symptoms of defficiencies show up a few days after things go out of wack, so whatever caused this might have happened before the transplant... so many different things could of caused this, maybe they were weakend by the bugbombs and the combination of transplant and nute change screwed them up. Im sure they will recover
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I've never seen a plant safe bug bomb. did it say that on the can? the only bug bombs i've ever used had lots of warnings about anything living being in the area while the bomb is doing its thing. i'd spray the leaves down with just water . course you bombed a few days ago but couldnt hurt.
I found the epsom salt so its on standby bro, Im starting to think the bugbombs had something to do with it, maybe it was to close to the plants or something, I cant see how the BPN nutes caused this it doesnt make any sense to me. you usually see symptoms of defficiencies show up a few days after things go out of wack, so whatever caused this might have happened before the transplant... so many different things could of caused this, maybe they were weakend by the bugbombs and the combination of transplant and nute change screwed them up. Im sure they will recover
I've never seen a plant safe bug bomb. did it say that on the can? the only bug bombs i've ever used had lots of warnings about anything living being in the area while the bomb is doing its thing. i'd spray the leaves down with just water . course you bombed a few days ago but couldnt hurt.
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they seem to be slowly recovering
they seem to be slowly recovering
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