Thanks, she's blowing up in the SIP!
It has to be a .gif under a certain size. I use the website Giphy sometimes to convert videos to .gif, but this video was too big and it kept erroring out. I ended up playing around with ClipChamp on Windows11. I was able to reduce the resolution and save it as a .gif then uploaded to the 420 gallery.Quick question - How do you post a video??? Asking for a friend.
Just sayin, I completely love the idea of an Emmy Green, Crack... lolHere is Emmy, my Green Crack Auto in the @VIVOSUN Smart Grow System with 100w AeroLight. She was started in a 4" pot for 13 days. I bottom watered her twice in the 4" pot then up-potted to a 5 gallon bucket with a GroBucket insert on day# 16. The bucket has FFHF pre-amended with @GeoFlora Nutrients veg and @DYNOMYCO , used on the rootball as well. I top-watered her when I uppotted to integrate the rootball, but all other feedings have been in the res. The top dressing of river rocks seems to keep the soil moist all the way to the surface.
She was topped on Day# 18 and I used CarHooks to LST her. Since flower she's been on @Remo Nutrients . She's up to 1.8L/day now and is still growing. You can see that once her roots got established in the SIP she really took off!
Weekly Progression
Emmy Day# 47
Well my plant sure has had a dry period as I already thought it odd that the water level wasn't going down anymore.. turns out it's obstructed (possible root invasion into the res) so it won't get down to empty again.. shaking the pot revealed no sloshing so it was dry and even the soil felt dry, so quickly filled everything up again and looks like she's going hallelujah!
I guess you found the thread, yeah it's store bought self watering pot so not setup like a grobucket but kinda the same principle, it works like a charm though wel up until now as now the metering is useless, now I'm in soil dwc territory.. without a pump..
Welcome to SIP Club!
There are an increasing number of us growing in SIPs (Sub Irrigated Planters) so I thought I'd start a community thread where we can all post pictures, links to our various SIP threads and have general discussions on theory and application of these incredible pots.
I'll tag a few below and hopefully they'll post links to their threads and pictures of their grows and pots so we have a central place to discuss these things. So ask any questions and share your experiences here, and link up to your respective journals so we can all follow along.
First, the basics.
A SIP is a grow pot structured with some sort of grow mix above, a water reservoir below, and and air chamber in between them. This air chamber and the constant availablilty of water and nutrients are what I believe lead to the incredible results these pots produce. Every plant I've grown in these has been healthier, happier and bigger than those in non-SIP containers. They are great for new growers since they take the guesswork out of watering which is one of the main challenges new growers face, but experienced growers also use them to great effect.
Here's a diagram of the basic set-up:
There are commercial versions that can be purchased including 5 gallon bucket inserts like this :
as well as "self-watering" pots like Krissi grows in here:
They are also easy to DIY if you're into that sort of thing and I've built them in various sizes including 9oz/266ml, 1Q/1L, 2G/8L, and 17G/64L sizes. I'll post some how-to instructions in later posts for those that might want to try building one themselves.
Harvests from indoor plants grown with the 5 gallon inserts seem to be limited to just over 1 pound () as was produced by Buds Buddy's plant shown here:
Emilya Green has a few journals going now showcasing her grows in her much larger, multiple 17 Gallon containers which is shaping up to be epic.
But here's a sneak peak:
ResDog has several different styles going and is working on a self-watering version from an external reservoir, and LKA and Farside have just started grows with their own buckets.
So, chime in with your questions, thoughts, experiences, etc. and we'll have a central place to discuss all things SIP!
Tags:
@Buds Buddy @el gringuito @Emilya Green @farside05 @Krissi Carbone @LKABudMan @ReservoirDog
Ok….Sold. SIP it is. It may be here and I missed. Recommendations on a setup for purchase? You mentioned commercial availability of 5 gallon, do you see available 3 gallon setups?
Thanks
Welcome aboard, GPC!Ok….Sold. SIP it is. It may be here and I missed. Recommendations on a setup for purchase? You mentioned commercial availability of 5 gallon, do you see available 3 gallon setups?
Thanks
Welcome GP! Octopot sells 3-gallon, breathable, soft-pot SIPs that have 6-gallon reservoirs. Earthbox appears to have multiple sizes, though where you purchase and the stock they carry will take a little googling.Ok….Sold. SIP it is. It may be here and I missed. Recommendations on a setup for purchase? You mentioned commercial availability of 5 gallon, do you see available 3 gallon setups?
Thanks
You must be pleased with the size of these plants for 51 days all-in, yes? Do you see a definite bump up in biomass? Are you running Osmacote in those, or a custom synth blend? Ever tried Grow Dots?If you're talking commercially sold 3.5 gallon buckets, their dimensions are 11.75 inches diameter by 11 inches high. 5 gallon buckets are 11.75 x 14.5. so the difference is just the extra 3.5 inches in height. That said, the GroBucket inserts would fit in a 3.5 gallon but you'd need to trim 3.5 inches off the fill tube. The water level indicator wouldn't be of much use since it's constructed in a manner that isn't conducive to trimming.
These are my current girls enjoying life in 5 gallon GroBuckets. Day 51, day 15 post flip
My goal was to protect my plants from myself. I oftentimes disappear for 2-3 days at a time and I needed a system that would allow me to do this, while still gardening organically in soil.
Yes, 51 days since they broke ground.
My first harvest of autos grown in SIPs had good weight despite being smaller than anticipated. They got stunted during an experiment with Osmocote. The Osmocote couldn't keep pace with the demand of the plants. Ended up having to feed them my regular nute program (full strength) to get them back on track. Perhaps upping the Osmocote dosage when potting would help, but I think I'm done with experiments with it for a while.
See above. I'm back to using my custom blended "Farside Nutrients". The recipes are over HERE.
I have not. I doubt I will. I have about $300 invested in raw salts to blend my own fertilizer. The concept of Dots is similar to Osmocote. I do see that Dots recommend about double the amount per gallon of soil as Osmocote does and their N-P-K numbers are not that dissimilar. So maybe if I doubled the Osmocote it would work. I still have 5lbs of Osmocote on hand if I ever decide to toy with it again.
I follow two and I'm sure there are others:
Thnx. I was aware of these and overlooked them because they are relatively new. Sorry guys, gals and travellers, no harm meant.
I only use one 7/8" hole saw for my fill pipe, and make all the other holes with a soldering iron which I think is preferable to a drill. If you're not careful with the drill you can split the plastic whereas the soldering iron melts a hole and makes a little extra ring of plastic which I actually think strengthens the container.
yeah, "creeper feeders", as I call timed-release, are all about the solubility rate and that can be very frustrating. It doesn't matter how much fertility you actually have in the pot if it's not releasing fast enough - and there are a lot of local factors involved in that release rate.
That sounds like a good experiment. I'm doing something similar but am still a couple of months out from finished castings.
Yes, agreed Azimuth. Not practical advice for my 6 and 4 inch holes, however, “fix it with
“ is a personal motto and definitely the way to go where practical. I tell you what else, those little plastic chunks that go everywhere when you drill are extremely hazardous - even in simple systems like SIPs they can cause big problems to deburring and proper cleanup are essential.
Ahoy EmilyaThank you for this @Azimuth , a compendium of our accumulated and combined experience is necessary here.
As a first example I'm not extremely convinced that this is the best way to start new seedlings. I have an experiment now going to prove this is the case.
Thank you for including a picture of my current grow room with 3x 27 gallon sips. I am starting my new seedlings in 17 gallon sips and I have three plants nearing completion that are in 5 gallon sips.
One thing that is immediately obvious is the overall health of the plants in the sips. The plants are processing so much water that they have extreme trunk size and strength in all of the branches and limbs and constantly the leaves are praying to the light.
