SIP Club - Getting Hydro/Coco Results In A Soil Based Medium

Fenderbender said:
mean.. for setting the humidity and temp of the tent and getting the plants moving with ventilators I
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My personal experience that none of it matters because your tike is spent learning to grow chasing numbers on a screen when your eyes and thought energy are better placed just looking at the plants themselves.

Learn to think like a plant - mad capped as that might sound.

But my OG grower best bit of advice he ever gave me.

“Learn to read the plant” - he just has a cheap ph sensors for nute mix if he’s using them.
 
So you exhaust and ventilate manually? or when the water comes running off the walls, hmm maybe decrease humidity a bit.. although I guess in your neck of the wood that's an entire different concept.
The whole idea behind a tent and some automation is that well you can create and sustain a different microclimate from the rest of your area.
I thought you liked the climate controller? :p as damn I really want to be able to go maximum temperature that and maximum humidity that.. as now I do it with analog timers but it would sure be easy to just go just dial in that much for veg.. and that much for flower.. no screenreading needed.
 
Fenderbender said:
Dunno what else he's trying to automate..
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So i have the acinfinity controller 69 it comes with 4 port light 2 fans carbonfilter inline fan so i wanted to add my old light to the controller to have more wattage they said i needed a 2 in 1 splitter to run both clipon fans from one port freeing up a port to use with the acinfity uis plug to connect the old light to the controller…….
 
TequilaSIPr said:
So i have the acinfinity controller 69 it comes with 4 port light 2 fans carbonfilter inline fan so i wanted to add my old light to the controller to have more wattage they said i needed a 2 in 1 splitter to run both clipon fans from one port freeing up a port to use with the acinfity uis plug to connect the old light to the controller…….
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Here it is 👈Are you not familiar with the splitter? Its basically just a usb splitter
 
TequilaSIPr said:
So i have the acinfinity controller 69 it comes with 4 port light 2 fans carbonfilter inline fan so i wanted to add my old light to the controller to have more wattage they said i needed a 2 in 1 splitter to run both clipon fans from one port freeing up a port to use with the acinfity uis plug to connect the old light to the controller…….
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I dunno about those.. but as they say you're a port short. so a splitter.. or run a fan less.. can you still plug those in regularly?
 
Same principle just a different fan
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TequilaSIPr said:
I only have one 2 in 1 splitter do i need another one? I have the long cord to plug into the controller and the 2 in1
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You will need a long usb C lead to plug from controller to first usb C splitter plugged into first fan and another long usb C lead to reach from fan 1 to fan 2 .
So 1 splitter an 2 leads .
They only have 2 splitters in the picture to show how you can keep adding fans by adding another splitter.
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I know it's nothing to get excited about but I just love seeing a Mycelium bloom in my grow
I took the top off the SIP this morning to see how moist the top of the soil was and the first thing I see is this.
You have got to love the biology of this hobby 💚
There's absolutely nothing I don't find amazing about this hobby of ours..

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Bud Bokashi said:
I know it's nothing to get excited about but I just love seeing a Mycelium bloom in my grow
I took the top off the SIP this morning to see how moist the top of the soil was and the first thing I see is this.
You have got to love the biology of this hobby 💚
There's absolutely nothing I don't find amazing about this hobby of ours..

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Hey Bud, is that Alfalpha you're using for mulch there? I forget what it looks like. I use an alfalfa extract I feed to my worms and it's all powder. Also, I don't see the mycelium you're talking about. IS it the fuzz against the side of the container?

Oh, I wanted to recommend an inexpensive addition you might consider, soldier fly frass. It is essentially an insect manure, high in Nitrogen, good microbes, but also carries strong pest control element in that the plants respond as if the flies are present and a potential threat and thus up their pest deterrence game at DNA level.

Do you still use white rice wash for your LABs? I do, actually have a fresh batch I jarred-up a couple weeks ago, I add it to my weekly microbial root drench and use around the house, plus with my esophageal cancer I've started adding it to my milk shakes. It's a 'facultive' microbe meaning it can live in different environments.

Thing is, I've found people using multiple grains (youtube) and then everything else the same, extracting microbes, adding milk, etc. But they are claiming a better variety of microbes which makes no sense to me because the whole experiment is an isolation of lactus baccilus, thus the milk. Your thoughts, if you have any? @Azimuth ?

I'm really enjoying the amazing health of my probiotic SIPs plants. With an airpump in the reservoir going off every few minutes I breathe a little easier knowing nothing too dangerous can grow down there with lots of o2 present. This is my first full-size experiment using my super-castings for cannabis (I did small cannabis SIPs and 35-gallon tomato SIPs with the castings-only and they were all the best plants I've ever grown of each type)

I love your soil recipe, it's ingenious mate, it really is. I'm for sure going to try it just as soon as my latest project, surviving this f*%îng cancer, is behind me. I think you're really onto something there.
 
ReservoirDog said:
Hey Bud, is that Alfalpha you're using for mulch there? I forget what it looks like. I use an alfalfa extract I feed to my worms and it's all powder. Also, I don't see the mycelium you're talking about. IS it the fuzz against the side of the container?

Oh, I wanted to recommend an inexpensive addition you might consider, soldier fly frass. It is essentially an insect manure, high in Nitrogen, good microbes, but also carries strong pest control element in that the plants respond as if the flies are present and a potential threat and thus up their pest deterrence game at DNA level.

Do you still use white rice wash for your LABs? I do, actually have a fresh batch I jarred-up a couple weeks ago, I add it to my weekly microbial root drench and use around the house, plus with my esophageal cancer I've started adding it to my milk shakes. It's a 'facultive' microbe meaning it can live in different environments.

Thing is, I've found people using multiple grains (youtube) and then everything else the same, extracting microbes, adding milk, etc. But they are claiming a better variety of microbes which makes no sense to me because the whole experiment is an isolation of lactus baccilus, thus the milk. Your thoughts, if you have any? @Azimuth ?

I'm really enjoying the amazing health of my probiotic SIPs plants. With an airpump in the reservoir going off every few minutes I breathe a little easier knowing nothing too dangerous can grow down there with lots of o2 present. This is my first full-size experiment using my super-castings for cannabis (I did small cannabis SIPs and 35-gallon tomato SIPs with the castings-only and they were all the best plants I've ever grown of each type)

I love your soil recipe, it's ingenious mate, it really is. I'm for sure going to try it just as soon as my latest project, surviving this f*%îng cancer, is behind me. I think you're really onto something there.
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Yes I do use rice wash for labs, the white fuzz along the side is the Mycelium bloom and the mulch is Timothy Hey from the pet store, clean and cheep. As far as insect control I just use good old fashioned preventative measures from the start, a good layer of Diatomaceous earth on top the soil and it seems to work fine. I had a little issue with fungus gnats a little while back but a good cleaning took care of that.
I'm glad you checked out the soil but I truly can't take any of that credit. Everything I know about the Bokashi growing method comes from the Bokashi living site, but if I can help you along I will be more than willing to pass on what limited knowledge i have to offer.
But know right up front.
I use the extract from the Bokashi pre-compost bucket for my plants but every time I have made it something changes and I have to get used to it all over again. But that's what makes it so much fun i guess.. never knowing what comes next and you have to figure it out.
Everything has a learning curve but we do what we do for a reason I guess 💚
 
ReservoirDog said:
Thing is, I've found people using multiple grains (youtube) and then everything else the same, extracting microbes, adding milk, etc. But they are claiming a better variety of microbes which makes no sense to me because the whole experiment is an isolation of lactus baccilus, thus the milk. Your thoughts, if you have any? @Azimuth ?
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Hey Dog. I suppose it depends on what you are using the end product for. Some people use it to help break things down in a compost pile but in My experiment comparing LAB vs my castings for making my Jadam extracts, I had much better results with the castings.

That probably had to do with multiple things but when you extract LAB using the normal white rice method you basically get one type of microbe which, as you say, is the whole point of submerging the various collected microbes in the milk to begin with as the LAB microbes outcompete everything else in a lactose heavy environment.

But doing it this way you get no diversity of life. I think of it like making IMO in the Korean Natural Farming practices where they are trying to cultivate and multiply selective "good" microbes. When adding them to another environment the concentrated microbes will overwhelm the existing species for a bit but then the system will come back into balance as the LAB get reduced and have to compete with everything else to survive.

I think that's why you have to apply the LAB periodically to keep those benefits going as the system always wants to rebalance itself.

My worm castings themselves have a wide variety of microbes and most of them have self selected to be good at breaking down organic waste, and those in the bottom of my bin are in a very wet and compact, probably anaerobic environment, which may explain why they work well in the SIP reservoir without air stones. If one were to put microbes cultured in a heavily oxygenated environment into the stagnant water of a SIP there would likely be a significant die-off leading to smells and other negative thing, but none of which I have experienced with my setup.

But, I'm not sure about using different grains for the luring media. It seems to me that it is simply a food rich environment which would capture a wide variety of microbes of whatever you have floating around in the air, but the fact of then submerging them in milk should then lead to the same outcome as with white rice.

In other words, I don't think you collect different microbes or ratios of microbes using a different carbohydrate liquid that would then somehow be more successful in the milk and therefore lead to a more diversified end LAB-type product, but I'd be happy to learn more.
 
ReservoirDog said:
which makes no sense to me because the whole experiment is an isolation of lactus baccilus,
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There are more than 260 species in the lactobaccillus genus.
 
Ahoy there!
Running rectangular earth boxes like the @StoneOtter has and I love them. Sort of like auto pilot cannabis. I maintain my regular Kitty Liter containers until my confidence in SIP improves. I had a SIP run go bad and believe me there was no rescuing the plants.

The area of my flowering footprints has more than doubled in effort to keep pace with local medicinal demand. That local demand has already proven it will be greater than my private gardens can support. Too many poor and sick.

Until I get better at Sipping, I will back up the containers with my proven yellow pots.

The colas looking discolored are Sour G and they are doing just fine. I could adjust the chow, but I tell you why I won't. When I touch and smell the discolored cola's the texture and aroma both tell me to keep my dick skinners off these two plants. An amazing strain (Sour G) they are repurposing available plant resources ensuring the flowers have carte blanche. I think this will result in a flavor and aroma of the strains creation as it struggles with homeostasis. The plants have plenty of additional foliar mass to support plant demands. Still, it chooses to devour itself along the stacking cola's where the converted energy is used for the flowers direct benefit.
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Highya Maritimer, guys,

Tidy Cats container I'm hoping is 4 gal +/-. I've made a couple SIP's with them this year for experiment. Looks like it works good enough to try with cannabis grow next year. Always something new. Happy Smokin'
 
Supermarket reusable bags make for a good sun deflector if you can't get hold of a heshion bag , just chop the bottom out and chop handles off .


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Bud Bokashi said:
Everything has a learning curve but we do what we do for a reason I guess 💚
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One mirrion percent agree with this
Azimuth said:
In other words, I don't think you collect different
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Love the way you think different Azi, genuinely
Maritimer said:
Sort of like auto pilot cannabis.
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Totally - see picture below!
TequilaSIPr said:
a noob like me can get with a trunk like this?!?
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Who knows! I have bigger trunks in solos and smaller in 5G - right now your dish of the day is “Wait And See Pudding”!

If I had one plant to grow to save my life it would be this way. Laziest most trouble free grow ever (I’m a noob too!)

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