SIP Club - Getting Hydro/Coco Results In A Soil Based Medium

[TequilaSIPr]

Hey @ReservoirDog Im sorry about your diagnoses. Cancer sucks, I just lost a grandson to it. I get Everclear 190 out of Alberta for my oil still. Maybe that would work for you. Its $50/bottle so it aint cheap. Lemme know, I got an extra bottle. If it will work for you it's yours. At least you can try it before you commit a ton of cash to getting it brought in. I will mail it next week when I get home to Kamloops if you think its what you need.

sorry for your loss Gee F* cancer

Man, really sorry about your grandson. Thankfully I've thought a lot about death as a part of life for a long time, and I think it's really helping me be and feel calm, 99% of the time. The toughest thing is deciding what your natural/experimental medicine vs. Scalpels, Radiation and Chemo poison, ratio is gonna be. Like, do I do ALL the things, or do some hurt the effectiveness of the others? Because the socialized system hasn't taken on Canna yet, and will take a generation (at the earliest) to get there, so there's only reading between the lines available as a means to figure it out. As it happens reading between the lines is my superpower, but it doesn't make it any more enjoyable, esp. given the non-hypothetical nature. It may be an exercise, but it ain't no drill.

I am not pre-occupied with croaking or not croaking. I am pre-occupied with suffering and not suffering, and also not causing my family undue hardship. I have no issue causing my loved ones hardship more generally, I've been doing it 50 years now! But when it comes to lasting hardship, that is just not cool. I've been walking around in rags for years now so I could pay off my mortgage in this lifetime and I'm only a year away. I wont suffer the thought of gambling on some big trip somewhere to see a cancer shaman, all financed by a reverse mortgage or loan. Passing on this resource to my child is a major life goal and will be very important for her life.

I would gratefully receive the Everclear Gee, for my RSO. But I'd love to be able to send you the 100$ worth of Australian charcoal (usually used in DIY smell filters or to recharge old filters.) that I've kept, in unopened original packing, for a year. I'll DM you my deets, feel free to do same.

Its so important to leave something for the kids these days inflation is pricing them out of ever owning anything these days the true markings of a family man ill take the beating before they have to!

 

[420hive]

Hello everyone,

I signed up to join the SIP thread here and I am excited to try it out and learn more.

I will be using a 5 gallon bucket and the Grow Bucket insert by Grow Tech.
Will be filling the buckets with Pro Mix BX and mixing in some worm castings,dolomite lime and pearlite chunks.

My main concern with the Grow Bucket design is none of the soil medium hangs into the water, how is this system supposed to wick the water?
I have thought about drilling holes on the side of the Grow Bucket insert and wrapping cloth around the insert to keep soil out of the water reservoir. My other thought is to drill a large hole in the top of the insert to put a netted pot, so it can hang down in the water and act as a wick with pearlite in it....?

Loving all the grow info and pics!!

 

[Chuckeye]

Hello everyone,

I signed up to join the SIP thread here and I am excited to try it out and learn more.

I will be using a 5 gallon bucket and the Grow Bucket insert by Grow Tech.
Will be filling the buckets with Pro Mix BX and mixing in some worm castings,dolomite lime and pearlite chunks.

I currently have three buckets going, one has the perlite increased to 50%.

I see NO difference in adding more perlite.

Although they are different strains, they are all three growing vigorously with no issues And using roughly the same amount of water.

I am using ProMix HP with NO amendments. The whole idea (for me) is that I provide ALL the nutrients.

When you start screwing with additives you are on your own..

My main concern with the Grow Bucket design is none of the soil medium hangs into the water, how is this system supposed to wick the water?

There are serrations along the bottom of the buckets to allow water to wick into the medium And slots on the top for the water roots to absorb the wicked moisture while being air pruned from the air gap above the water reservoir.

No need to change a well thought out design.

I have thought about drilling holes on the side of the Grow Bucket insert and wrapping cloth around the insert to keep soil out of the water reservoir. My other thought is to drill a large hole in the top of the insert to put a netted pot, so it can hang down in the water and act as a wick with pearlite in it....?

Good luck with your new design

One thing I am doing differently is top watering once every three fills.

I found with just bottom feeding I had no upper side roots to help support the plant, they were falling over !

Welcome and Cheers.

 

[InTheShed]

One thing I am doing differently is top watering once every three fills.

I found with just bottom feeding I had no upper side roots to help support the plant, they were falling over !

for this tidbit Chuckeye!

 

[TequilaSIPr]

One thing I am doing differently is top watering once every three fills.

I found with just bottom feeding I had no upper side roots to help support the plant, they were falling over !

Welcome and Cheers.

Sounds like a good plan! i thought someone said that confused their root system and they stopped drinking from the res?

 

[Chuckeye]

Sounds like a good plan! i thought someone said that confused their root system and they stopped drinking from the res?

I remember reading something like that too but did not find that to be the case.

ProMix HP will keep wicking, whether the plant continues to use it is something else

Cheers

 

[420hive]

I currently have three buckets going, one has the perlite increased to 50%.

I see NO difference in adding more perlite.

Although they are different strains, they are all three growing vigorously with no issues And using roughly the same amount of water.

I am using ProMix HP with NO amendments. The whole idea (for me) is that I provide ALL the nutrients.

When you start screwing with additives you are on your own..

There are serrations along the bottom of the buckets to allow water to wick into the medium And slots on the top for the water roots to absorb the wicked moisture while being air pruned from the air gap above the water reservoir.

No need to change a well thought out design.

Good luck with your new design

One thing I am doing differently is top watering once every three fills.

I found with just bottom feeding I had no upper side roots to help support the plant, they were falling over !

Welcome and Cheers.

Excellent, Thanks for the tips!!

 

[Azimuth]

Hello everyone,

I signed up to join the SIP thread here and I am excited to try it out and learn more.

I will be using a 5 gallon bucket and the Grow Bucket insert by Grow Tech.
Will be filling the buckets with Pro Mix BX and mixing in some worm castings,dolomite lime and pearlite chunks.

My main concern with the Grow Bucket design is none of the soil medium hangs into the water, how is this system supposed to wick the water?
I have thought about drilling holes on the side of the Grow Bucket insert and wrapping cloth around the insert to keep soil out of the water reservoir. My other thought is to drill a large hole in the top of the insert to put a netted pot, so it can hang down in the water and act as a wick with pearlite in it....?

Loving all the grow info and pics!!

Welcome to The Club @420hive !

@Chuckeye 's got you covered. Thanks, Chuck.

 

[Absorber]

One thing I am doing differently is top watering once every three fills.

I found with just bottom feeding I had no upper side roots to help support the plant, they were falling over !

I planned on doing the same ,I was going to make sure soil in the centre of the SIP is higher so when top watering it runs to the outside of the SIP .

 

[NickHardy]

One thing I am doing differently is top watering once every three fills.

This seems to be the way to (even greater) success in a SIP.

Mine seems to have avoided stall after transplant, I’m travelling and need her training started ASAP! But my wife has been really busy with other stuff (plus the other 70+ plants under lights

Plant is already too damn big after just a week in there

 

[TequilaSIPr]

Day 54 fliipin her at 60 added another 1200w im gonna need you guys more then ever follow along with my journal if you havent already ive got a trellis netwhat you think should i put it in?

Hey All! No pics atm but at first it seem like the lady was loving the light i guess i confused prayin leaves but came back later and they were folding up like it was too much light the new growth is wild dialed it back hopefully that helps

 

[TequilaSIPr]

Day 59 I cut down the light intensity on the 1200w still too much for her so i moved her around hoping for a quick rebound!
Some of the newer leaves are still cupping and twisting I plan on putting the net up later today!

Just got one of those co2 bags is that how theyre supposed to be set up?

 

[Azimuth]

Can you raise the light a bit? Cupping leaves can be too much light but also could be a heat issue. How's the environment (temp and humidty)?

 

[Bud Bokashi]

Day 59 I cut down the light intensity on the 1200w still too much for her so i moved her around hoping for a quick rebound!
Some of the newer leaves are still cupping and twisting I plan on putting the net up later today!

Just got one of those co2 bags is that how theyre supposed to be set up?

I've never used a CO2 bag but if that's it on the floor you may want to hang it above the plant.
CO2 is heavier than air so having it on the floor under the plant I don't think is it, but like I said I've never used them.
I hope you get it figured out.

 

[Fenderbender]

Auto 25 days from hatch in SIP.
They have started to stretch so the next 14 days should be interesting.
I'm hopeful these will be the best auto buds yet I've grown as the branching is way girthier than previous smartpot grows.

 

[Fenderbender]

There's CO2 bags?
I dunno about CO2 growing but I'd imagine you could only apply higher par and temps for the period you have a consistent high level in the tent.. and you kinda should be able to measure it so you can match it with the light.
And how does that work with venting?

 

[StoneOtter]

Hello everyone,

I signed up to join the SIP thread here and I am excited to try it out and learn more.

I will be using a 5 gallon bucket and the Grow Bucket insert by Grow Tech.
Will be filling the buckets with Pro Mix BX and mixing in some worm castings,dolomite lime and pearlite chunks.

My main concern with the Grow Bucket design is none of the soil medium hangs into the water, how is this system supposed to wick the water?
I have thought about drilling holes on the side of the Grow Bucket insert and wrapping cloth around the insert to keep soil out of the water reservoir. My other thought is to drill a large hole in the top of the insert to put a netted pot, so it can hang down in the water and act as a wick with pearlite in it....?

Loving all the grow info and pics!!

Watching the video on amazon I see soil does see the water all around the perimeter of the insert. Check the vid out.

 

[TequilaSIPr]

Can you raise the light a bit? Cupping leaves can be too much light but also could be a heat issue. How's the environment (temp and humidty)?

Its a little warmer in there but i was waiting for a dongle for the new light i added it was running 24/7 ive been super busy i should probably be chopping off some of this undergrowth humidity wise i need to add a humidifier its 50 rh or so

I've never used a CO2 bag but if that's it on the floor you may want to hang it above the plant.
CO2 is heavier than air so having it on the floor under the plant I don't think is it, but like I said I've never used them.
I hope you get it figured out.

Its sitting on the earthbox its sitting on something to prop it just slightly higher then the plants im new to all this fancy stuff centipedes are getn stuck on my sticky traps i wonder do they enjoy canna probably who doesnt lol

 

[ReservoirDog]

Wow, everybody's shit looks tight!

As for top watering, it's totally fine, however, in the early seedling days you want the plant to know that survival means it needs to send a nice taproot downward, and topwatering can slow this process.

Manures in the mix are ok if the animal is that shat it is no larger than an earthworm, is my rule of thumb for SIPs and its coming from experienced organic SIPpers. I'm running a 1 part wormcastings 1 part peat, 1 part perlite SIP right now and have done in the past and it works well but they are my own very customized castings. I don't think storebought would get through flower alone, but I could be wrong.

Promix off the shelf is about 70/30 peat/perlite. So I add extra perlite to make it 50/50, then add half of that total volume in worm castings, resulting in three equal parts (by volume) of each. Remember though, I'm using a lime-buffered peat/perlite mix (Promix, Sunshine Mix #4), so just adding raw, unbuffered peat, and your own perlite and castings, wont get you the same result. You need the buffering of the lime in the finished peat products, though you can go DIY on that too but I can't instruct you there.

These plants are in DIY 27gal tote SIPs, rez is 6gal. I drop 2, 10 gallon square Geopots in the SIPs and this keeps from being over wet and I have 10gal of soil for each plant so I can go organic. I use precut black plastic laid on the soil top for organics so I draw roots up to the top as I will amend by laying pure castings on top before flip and after. I’m also using an airstone in the rez for organic grows just to make sure nothing anaerobic starts forming in the rez, not worried about dissolved oxygen levels otherwise. Really like this method. Yeah plants are close to each other but simple training keeps things civil. Sauga- view

Co2 bags can be pretty helpful, try to mount them as high in the tent as you can as not only does the co2 fall down but the warmer temps generates more co2. It's just mushroom farming 101. Over 84 deg F might be pushing it, however. Follow the bag's instructions. It is a supplementary product, and approx. doubles your background cO2 which does benefit and does not require, or benefit from, hardcore light values. It does help the plant, however. In the pics below you'll see I'm offgassing my fresh wines in the tent for the plants benefit. Same deal. (I cover them from the lights, they're uncovered for the photo only.

 

[Maritimer]

I planned on doing the same ,I was going to make sure soil in the centre of the SIP is higher so when top watering it runs to the outside of the SIP .

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