My experiences so far that relate to Nick's concerns and comments are below. Although I hunt all the other forums for SIP journals and everywhere else online, I'm really doing a lot of this 'by feel' and hope you will too. On this thread I'm just sharing my experiences thus far. Sometimes curt wording can make these things sound like do and don'ts, or make someone sound like more of an authority than they mean to. I just don't have enough years of SIPPing yet to be that guy. I've got a few years in, but it'll take a few more just to satisfy my main curiosities.
Ahoy @ReservoirDog,
In the course of my research, I was privileged to be a guest member in a scientific community of researchers. During this time, I actively contributed to the peer review process wherein abstracts are submitted for review by other researchers as critique of the arguments, discussions, and conclusions presented in the abstract.

Please, do not tone down your work, as you are in fact an authority of your research. You are "the guy" in all your work. When you share your work, you suddenly morph into "the man". This is opportunity knocking. Your peers will eventually critique your work as I have been doing with the information you provide. Because this venue is more or less informal and friendly you must solicit any critique of your work. In other words, I do not go out and start questioning your controls and methods unless you ask. Otherwise, I might sound "curt" and even offensive. But when you ask for opinions of your experiments and studies you learn about your own work as you explain your interpretations.

I have watched your interactions with folks and your presentation of the interpretations gained from your experience and personally appreciate your confidence. Popularity aside, your vocabulary needs to stay strong.

With all this said I congratulate you Commodore Reservoir Dog. :peacetwo:
Your ascension to science officer is warranted.
 
With respect to the synth nute issue and potential buildup, Ganeesh says ...
Hmm more products to get to make the thing with the three bottles work better.
But kelp and humates, I'll keep an eye out.
I've seen the Mills Nutrients at my shop but I picked up the Terra Aquatica as I saw the HW & SW versions and thought hmmm.
I could also still use the Biocanna stuff but just feed little amounts at a time so there's no res with liters in for over a week in hot temps as I think that might have compounded to the problem and the smelly res.

But I kinda should really try the stuff we used outside as those autos grew well with only water in the SIP and one time it was filled with PK13/14, you can still apply additives through the Res.

Sigh I dunno, if I want to use that stuff I'll still need to order some so that would mean start next week as it needs to be mixed in the soil and probably won't be here before the weekend.
 
Hmm more products to get to make the thing with the three bottles work better.
But kelp and humates, I'll keep an eye out.
I've seen the Mills Nutrients at my shop but I picked up the Terra Aquatica as I saw the HW & SW versions and thought hmmm.
I could also still use the Biocanna stuff but just feed little amounts at a time so there's no res with liters in for over a week in hot temps as I think that might have compounded to the problem and the smelly res.

But I kinda should really try the stuff we used outside as those autos grew well with only water in the SIP and one time it was filled with PK13/14, you can still apply additives through the Res.

Sigh I dunno, if I want to use that stuff I'll still need to order some so that would mean start next week as it needs to be mixed in the soil and probably won't be here before the weekend.
Synths from the bottom, and organics from the top - as a basic model - works very well. That is, with the exception of the kelp and humates. In this model, those two mix with the synth fertigation in the rez without issue because they are mixed thinly enough not to settle or react well within the time and temps you're looking at, and when provided as constants they help prevent synth build-up in your medium - and that's not to mention the huge benefits they provide otherwise (ie kelp's growth hormones, trace minerals and remarkable ability to relieve heat pressure on plants). Not pricey either, or, don't need to be. At 10 euros/entire cycle for both products, it's gardening's best deal, full-stop imo.

Within this same fert/setup/model, in, for e.g., my 80-something litre/27-gal tote SIPs running 2 plants, (again, running synth ferts/kelp/humates in the rez), I'll do a weekly top watering of organic goodies, but no more than one litre per plant (at a time) and watered in carefully to avoid leeching soil and organi-stuff into rez. Totally optional, but, if you have some organi-goop to try, within this successful model, that's how I work it. Rez will not sour on you this way even under max heat/time pressures.

I only avoid top watering for the first two weeks after transplant so the plants can get their bearings and know that the good stuff is DOWN there. The idea is to make the moisture gradient blatantly obvious in these early days in order to trigger a genetic response that dictates a root morphology that, due to nature's ever-present moisture gradient, evolution has already primed them for. I've observed SIP root systems to be smaller, when compared pound for pound of above-ground 'fruits', strongly implying a greater efficiency. (That and all the peer-reviewed agronomy paperwork on hydrotropism ;) )

For a typical 3-node transplant I pre-prime the SIP with 1000ppm synth nutes and kelp/humates, and I'll water in at transplant, like normal, but that's it. Usually, I even leave the mulching off for a little while to help drive the message home. After they've appeared to get their groove on I stop being a hard ass about top watering, but I do limit top watering amounts at one time merely to avoid driving soil into the reservoir - out of ''an abundance of caution''.

Obviously, there isn't one way to grow great stuff, there are bajillions. This is merely one that fits into my life and the plant's with relative symbiosis. Plus, if I don't make such things habitual, I tend not to do them as well. So there's that.

Now, for my ballyhooed, 250-litre external rez supported, auto-watered, rooftop, outdoor 40-gallon SIPs next spring, I might do time-released nutes, mixed into the peat/perlite because my goal is to develop a 'hands-off', no-electricity, system that people can use outside to grow cannabis TREEs in 40-gallon SIPs, yet still have families and take holidays and stuff! So, if you end up going that way I'll be watching!

Ugh, I'm stuck in bed today, can you tell? lol.
 
All good stuff, RD. :thumb:

Also super important is to use a light-coloured mulching or covering material spread thick. It keeps the soil from overheating but also traps warmth within overnight, levelling out temps. I happened to find some old furniture that had rough cotton as stuffing and it has been ideal. But a couple inches of lightly coloured leaves or even synthetic materials will do the job.
Agree here. Fresh grass clippings are what I use. Within a day or two they fade to a straw type color and are freely available to me all summer.

Plus, if you grow organically, they'll add some organic material to your soil as they decompose.
 
Hello everyone, here are my four 25 liter SIPs for my Paradox plants and this is what they look like after transplanting...
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IMG_20230823_192613.jpg
IMG_20230823_192615.jpg
IMG_20230823_192617.jpg
IMG_20230823_192619.jpg
IMG_20230823_194741.jpg

Oh and the Hulkberry has a new home too...
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IMG_20230823_194749.jpg
 
Synths from the bottom, and organics from the top - as a basic model - works very well...
Another interesting read, see I would maybe hope that with the time released nutrients maybe the roots won't all migrate to the res as yes the water is down there but the snacks are upstairs.
I mean I don't mind it but yeah at that point you're kinda just doing hydro (at least in my case with the way my pot is setup).. if the nutes get slowly dissolved in the soil by the water being pulled upwards the roots might have more incentive to explore the soil area?

If the dimmer arrives tomorrow I'm probably just going to start, it's autos they won't require much.
 
Smithers, release the hounds!

Ha-ha-ha... the Great Inoculum has begun. (All that's missing are some sponsor swag stickers to decorate this germination/inoculation cubby with!)

So this is me preparing 15 gallons of RD-Special Microbial Inoculant that will immediately be used to treat a full bail of peat/perlite (SS#4) - as seen divided between the large 'cooking' buckets, awaiting the spark of life!
F7FE9DF7-A877-488D-BD99-13AC20E0015C.jpeg


B548FC2A-964E-405C-AC31-98538EE0ADB7.jpeg

Straightforward stuff here: top pic shows my medium-sized 17-gal tea-brewer, currently holding about 12-gal of pond water. Some black plastic laid on the lid eliminates even more light from entering and impacting the culture/tea. Good enough is good enough.

Underneath it is your basic 10x20 thermostat-controlled heat mat. I target 76-80-deg f.

On the left, also hanging, is a 30w air pump on a 5-min on, 15-min off timer, connected to a 5” dia. airstone in the tote. There's also a small waterpump in there to move things around even more, set for 5 min every 30 min., placed to prevent any settling, anywhere - something I was surprised to observe was possible with only the airstone employed.
78067954-73F5-4039-A808-FC6DD10E1E9A.jpeg

The Water is sourced from my pond (see the pic), though often for smaller batches I have a distilled water 'brewer' I can use but it takes hours to make one gallon. I have very soft, very good tap water here so another method I employ is to chemically to take out the chloramine remainder with citric acid or potassium metabisulphate. The amounts required are so low you cant even read it on a TDS/PPM meter (chloramine is a chlorine-type byproduct of an ammonia-based civic h2o treatment that can't be 'off-gassed').

The pond water is, of course, a Pandora's box of unknown micro-life. However, it has appeared to work well in the past (using the end product I have seen certain indicators that my added microbes multiplied strongly and are at work in the planting medium) and I've chosen it for this batch.

Next, I stuffed some fresh RD-developed worm castings into and old sock and hung it in the water.

The casting are important to me, as among the ridiculous number of their benefits is that they contain protozoa, which are an important part of the ''microbial circle of life'' as it were.

Further microbial contributions come from the three packages in the bottom of the shot, they are Dynomyco mycorrhizae and NPK RAW's Grow and Flower microbe packs. The NPK RAW brand Grow Pack highlight is the selection of helpful baccilus species, while also containing some myco spores, but at a much lower concentration than Dynomyco-C. The NPK is prolly not a suitable stand-alone myco product, unless you culture them up with some plants to increase numbers and harvest that (I work on this myself and it's awesome, plus it hugely stretches out your product and gives you living stuff to plant with)

It's my understanding that synth-fertigated soilless grows don't benefit a great deal from mycos, as the readily available nutrients prevent the plant from 'bartering' with the mycos and allowing them to develop their full potential.

(Got some serious environment issues in this tent/room as air is removed but not replaced fast enough. Seems to drive them to breath too hard trying to get what they need, causing necrosis on leaf edges and thin leaves. There’s a compromise in place but I’ve got a true fix coming now. When I remove a plant from here and place it 10ft away, in another room, after one day the improvement is obvious!)
FA93C664-52FE-4FF6-B4BE-C89058AAA499.jpeg

The NPK RAW Flower microbe pack is a super-star, containing some excellent phosphorous solubizing bacteria, which also in a synth grow aren't necc, however, I like to run relatively low fert PPMs and am always looking to make more small reductions where possible, and like I say, I do also run organic SIPs.

The potentially most widely useful microbe for Synth-SIPs here is Trichoderma Harazium which works a lot of magic in fully organic grows but is very helpful for 'soilles' synth-fert SIPs also by protecting seedlings from dampening off and protecting roots from harmful fungi like pythia by outcompeting it, and other hazardous fungi, thus it becomes a very useful rhizome microbe. To my knowledge, mineral salt-based ferts do not kill off microbes, they merely prevent the development of some species because the symbiotic benefit to the plant is not needed, so the plant will withhold treats they would otherwise barter for microbial benefit.

CFU's in the NPK products both are listed as quite high and I can tell by eye now when some the wee bugs have colonized a pot effectively. Trichoderma is the easiest with its ''cloud'' of tiny fibrous webbing. The FLOWER pack also contains 7 helpful Baccilis, 2 Paenobaccilus, 3 Pseudomonas, Streptomyces Lydicus, and another Trichoderma besides Hazarium, called Trich. Reesei. I've tried Great White before, which is a very similar combo that includes mycos as well, but this product is less expensive and performs very well - to my sense of things. It also has higher CFU's listed on the packs than GW.

To this, I add a 1/2gram/gallon of Green Leaf's Sweet Candy, some gardener molasses, leonardite-sourced humates, and kelp extract. Then it brews for 48 hours. Right before I pour and mix it all into the trashcans of peat/perlite I mix in some homemade fish hydrosolate (which doesn't smell) to keep everyone feeding in the bins - which are kept somewhere warm until use or mixed with further amendments.

Again, this peat/perlite is both an end-product used for stand-alone, synth-fertigated SIPs, and as one element of a super soil mix for organics-only growing.

Thank you to 420 for the space to occupy my mind, without which, at times, I’d be much worse off! Cheers to the mods, et al, you rock.
 
Hello everyone, here are my four 25 liter SIPs for my Paradox plants and this is what they look like after transplanting...
IMG_20230823_185723.jpg
IMG_20230823_185755.jpg
IMG_20230823_192613.jpg
IMG_20230823_192615.jpg
IMG_20230823_192617.jpg
IMG_20230823_192619.jpg
IMG_20230823_194741.jpg

Oh and the Hulkberry has a new home too...
IMG_20230823_192611.jpg
IMG_20230823_194749.jpg
Yeah, Kanno if I was growing such gorgeous plants as you have been, one at a time, I'd decide to go bigger too! Lovely DIY, thanks so much for making the effort to share your details with us. I'm genuinely hyped for this grow. Hulkamania (love the colour choices)! And a Paradox, as always, very intriguing, but in this case a little bit extra.... because it's weed!
 
A friend that came for a visit recently likes to drink sparkling water. He brought with him two 1 Liter bottles of it and when I saw the cone shaped top my inner gardener yelped "MINI_SIP!" so I listened and got to work after my friend wet his whistle. I saved the two containers and made this mini-SIP to start seedlings.
One bottle became the base by cutting the top off at the upper seam and making a 1/4" hole 4" from the bottom for reservoir overflow. The other I cut off at the bottom seam and tossed out the bottom. I drilled a 1/4" hole in the cap and inserted a short length of 1/4" nylon rope. I punched lots of holes all the way around the conic section with a #1 sewing needle (d=0.040") from the cap to the end of the conic section for water to soak in and allow respiration. Instant free mini-SIP! I think it will work pretty good!

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A friend that came for a visit recently likes to drink sparkling water. He brought with him two 1 Liter bottles of it and when I saw the cone shaped top my inner gardener yelped "MINI_SIP!" so I listened and got to work after my friend wet his whistle. I saved the two containers and made this mini-SIP to start seedlings.
One bottle became the base by cutting the top off at the upper seam and making a 1/4" hole for reservoir overflow. The other I cut off at the bottom seam and tossed out the bottom. I drilled a 1/4" hole in the cap and inserted a short length of 1/4" nylon rope. I punched lots of holes all the way around the conic section with a #1 sewing needle (d=0.040") from the cap to the end of the conic section for water to soak in and allow respiration. Instant free mini-SIP! I think it will work pretty good!

20230824_200803r.jpg
Looks good wrap it in something to keep the roots in the dark.
:passitleft:
 
Smithers, release the hounds!

Ha-ha-ha... the Great Inoculum has begun. (All that's missing are some sponsor swag stickers to decorate this germination/inoculation cubby with!)

So this is me preparing 15 gallons of RD-Special Microbial Inoculant that will immediately be used to treat a full bail of peat/perlite (SS#4) - as seen divided between the large 'cooking' buckets, awaiting the spark of life!
F7FE9DF7-A877-488D-BD99-13AC20E0015C.jpeg


B548FC2A-964E-405C-AC31-98538EE0ADB7.jpeg

Straightforward stuff here: top pic shows my medium-sized 17-gal tea-brewer, currently holding about 12-gal of pond water. Some black plastic laid on the lid eliminates even more light from entering and impacting the culture/tea. Good enough is good enough.

Underneath it is your basic 10x20 thermostat-controlled heat mat. I target 76-80-deg f.

On the left, also hanging, is a 30w air pump on a 5-min on, 15-min off timer, connected to a 5” dia. airstone in the tote. There's also a small waterpump in there to move things around even more, set for 5 min every 30 min., placed to prevent any settling, anywhere - something I was surprised to observe was possible with only the airstone employed.
78067954-73F5-4039-A808-FC6DD10E1E9A.jpeg

The Water is sourced from my pond (see the pic), though often for smaller batches I have a distilled water 'brewer' I can use but it takes hours to make one gallon. I have very soft, very good tap water here so another method I employ is to chemically to take out the chloramine remainder with citric acid or potassium metabisulphate. The amounts required are so low you cant even read it on a TDS/PPM meter (chloramine is a chlorine-type byproduct of an ammonia-based civic h2o treatment that can't be 'off-gassed').

The pond water is, of course, a Pandora's box of unknown micro-life. However, it has appeared to work well in the past (using the end product I have seen certain indicators that my added microbes multiplied strongly and are at work in the planting medium) and I've chosen it for this batch.

Next, I stuffed some fresh RD-developed worm castings into and old sock and hung it in the water.

The casting are important to me, as among the ridiculous number of their benefits is that they contain protozoa, which are an important part of the ''microbial circle of life'' as it were.

Further microbial contributions come from the three packages in the bottom of the shot, they are Dynomyco mycorrhizae and NPK RAW's Grow and Flower microbe packs. The NPK RAW brand Grow Pack highlight is the selection of helpful baccilus species, while also containing some myco spores, but at a much lower concentration than Dynomyco-C. The NPK is prolly not a suitable stand-alone myco product, unless you culture them up with some plants to increase numbers and harvest that (I work on this myself and it's awesome, plus it hugely stretches out your product and gives you living stuff to plant with)

It's my understanding that synth-fertigated soilless grows don't benefit a great deal from mycos, as the readily available nutrients prevent the plant from 'bartering' with the mycos and allowing them to develop their full potential.

(Got some serious environment issues in this tent/room as air is removed but not replaced fast enough. Seems to drive them to breath too hard trying to get what they need, causing necrosis on leaf edges and thin leaves. There’s a compromise in place but I’ve got a true fix coming now. When I remove a plant from here and place it 10ft away, in another room, after one day the improvement is obvious!)
FA93C664-52FE-4FF6-B4BE-C89058AAA499.jpeg

The NPK RAW Flower microbe pack is a super-star, containing some excellent phosphorous solubizing bacteria, which also in a synth grow aren't necc, however, I like to run relatively low fert PPMs and am always looking to make more small reductions where possible, and like I say, I do also run organic SIPs.

The potentially most widely useful microbe for Synth-SIPs here is Trichoderma Harazium which works a lot of magic in fully organic grows but is very helpful for 'soilles' synth-fert SIPs also by protecting seedlings from dampening off and protecting roots from harmful fungi like pythia by outcompeting it, and other hazardous fungi, thus it becomes a very useful rhizome microbe. To my knowledge, mineral salt-based ferts do not kill off microbes, they merely prevent the development of some species because the symbiotic benefit to the plant is not needed, so the plant will withhold treats they would otherwise barter for microbial benefit.

CFU's in the NPK products both are listed as quite high and I can tell by eye now when some the wee bugs have colonized a pot effectively. Trichoderma is the easiest with its ''cloud'' of tiny fibrous webbing. The FLOWER pack also contains 7 helpful Baccilis, 2 Paenobaccilus, 3 Pseudomonas, Streptomyces Lydicus, and another Trichoderma besides Hazarium, called Trich. Reesei. I've tried Great White before, which is a very similar combo that includes mycos as well, but this product is less expensive and performs very well - to my sense of things. It also has higher CFU's listed on the packs than GW.

To this, I add a 1/2gram/gallon of Green Leaf's Sweet Candy, some gardener molasses, leonardite-sourced humates, and kelp extract. Then it brews for 48 hours. Right before I pour and mix it all into the trashcans of peat/perlite I mix in some homemade fish hydrosolate (which doesn't smell) to keep everyone feeding in the bins - which are kept somewhere warm until use or mixed with further amendments.

Again, this peat/perlite is both an end-product used for stand-alone, synth-fertigated SIPs, and as one element of a super soil mix for organics-only growing.

Thank you to 420 for the space to occupy my mind, without which, at times, I’d be much worse off! Cheers to the mods, et al, you rock.
That pond... I want to drink beer and go fishing in it... maybe sit in it, in a tiny canoe.
 
Morning SIPpers! I'm at about day 45 of flower on these two granddaddy purples and the flowers are looking great.

Interestingly enough the plant that was giving me fits before has bounced back nicely. The plant that was growing like crazy has what looks to be a severe potassium deficiency now and while the flowers are fattening they stopped growing vertically.

What's the best way in SIP to address a potassium deficiency? I've had been feeding her 2-3 tsp of fox farm bloom (0-5-4) in 1 gallon of water ph'd between 6.4 and 6.6 every other day (she drinks a gallon in two days). But when I saw the margins starting to turn brown I thought I burned her so I backed off and gave only water and a touch of general hydro calmag with each watering. Pretty sure that made it worse so I've been giving her half doses of the bloom.

I could give her a big dose of bloom, top dress with some potash and water it in, buy some other liquid K to fertigate with. Any of those sound more effective?

NASC says this cultivar is 45-55 days in flower but I still see a ton of new white pistols and they've got a fair bit of swelling to do yet so I have a feeling I'm going to go beyond that. Most trichomes are still clear as day as well. Probably going to need to do something quick as riding this out doesn't feel like an option.

Thoughts? Thanks y'all!
 
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