TequilaSIPr
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Thanks all for the input its in the basement and i only have one inline fan (cloudline t6 )so now in the summer it is cold and in the winter its warm hope that helps with the setup question
SIP Club - Getting Hydro/Coco Results In A Soil Based Medium
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TequilaSIPr
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wholetime thats an ac infinity fan in a vivo sun tent (my last 4x4 was a vivosun)
One fan, cool room: exhaust out the bottom to pull warm air in from the top.
RedskinnedRhino
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Smoked some well aged herbs, and got to staring at my SIP, and thought...
Can a SIP also be a fish tank?
Or partially incorporated into a fish tank?
Maybe bottom dwellers like catfish, some snails, and scum suckers?
Would it starve the plant and kill the fish? Or would both thrive?
Would it be inhumane to test it out with live fish... in the name of science?
Would you follow along even if I killed 2 dozen fish getting the system figured out???
I was thinking a normal fish tank with a tote sitting 3/4 on top (so i can still feed the fish) and a couple soil/ perlite pipes connecting em, as a prototype... but I won't post it on here if a belly-up goldfish would make anyone weep.
Can a SIP also be a fish tank?
Or partially incorporated into a fish tank?
Maybe bottom dwellers like catfish, some snails, and scum suckers?
Would it starve the plant and kill the fish? Or would both thrive?
Would it be inhumane to test it out with live fish... in the name of science?
Would you follow along even if I killed 2 dozen fish getting the system figured out???
I was thinking a normal fish tank with a tote sitting 3/4 on top (so i can still feed the fish) and a couple soil/ perlite pipes connecting em, as a prototype... but I won't post it on here if a belly-up goldfish would make anyone weep.
Kill awaySmoked some well aged herbs, and got to staring at my SIP, and thought...
Can a SIP also be a fish tank?
Or partially incorporated into a fish tank?
Maybe bottom dwellers like catfish, some snails, and scum suckers?
Would it starve the plant and kill the fish? Or would both thrive?
Would it be inhumane to test it out with live fish... in the name of science?
Would you follow along even if I killed 2 dozen fish getting the system figured out???
I was thinking a normal fish tank with a tote sitting 3/4 on top (so i can still feed the fish) and a couple soil/ perlite pipes connecting em, as a prototype... but I won't post it on here if a belly-up goldfish would make anyone weep.
Smoked some well aged herbs, and got to staring at my SIP, and thought...
Can a SIP also be a fish tank?
Or partially incorporated into a fish tank?
Maybe bottom dwellers like catfish, some snails, and scum suckers?
Would it starve the plant and kill the fish? Or would both thrive?
Would it be inhumane to test it out with live fish... in the name of science?
Would you follow along even if I killed 2 dozen fish getting the system figured out???
I was thinking a normal fish tank with a tote sitting 3/4 on top (so i can still feed the fish) and a couple soil/ perlite pipes connecting em, as a prototype... but I won't post it on here if a belly-up goldfish would make anyone weep.
Hey RedSkinned!! Yes sir that would be aquaponics, think it would work just fine. In my noggin there’s 1 consideration.…I think most aquaponics setups use something like a net pot and hydroton clay balls. Thinking maybe a fabric bag of soil doing perpetual teabag routine might turn the water too brackish…. Not sure if top watering is allowed or if the leachate is tolerated by the fish
Big nope, I’m not gonna lose any sleep over goldfish, Go for it…. I’d be happy to follow along!!! If you use 420 search bar and look for aquaponics there’s multiple pages of results. Azimuth was tinkering with this but I have not followed up on his progress…
A friend of mine here tried it - I think once for some vegetables and once with weed. A tough gig.
His issue was balance and he was basically doing it outdoors in the tropics.
TL/Short Story.
Environmental balance is really hard. From what I remember he got it all started perfectly and in harmony above and below both times. Followed a Youtuber’s instructions. Then both times got a little out of balance and everything died in like 12-24 hours. Fish and plants. Its doable but tough gig like I said.
Although indoors gives you a fighting chance.
But put it this way - I currently have an 80L empty fish tank. I’m generally up for anything. But like Meatloaf sang,
I would do anything to grow, but I won’t do that…
Nick
His issue was balance and he was basically doing it outdoors in the tropics.
TL/Short Story.
Environmental balance is really hard. From what I remember he got it all started perfectly and in harmony above and below both times. Followed a Youtuber’s instructions. Then both times got a little out of balance and everything died in like 12-24 hours. Fish and plants. Its doable but tough gig like I said.
Although indoors gives you a fighting chance.
But put it this way - I currently have an 80L empty fish tank. I’m generally up for anything. But like Meatloaf sang,
I would do anything to grow, but I won’t do that…
Nick
TequilaSIPr
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Hi all! Tent is finished Hopefully i get some set up help on the otherside the controller looks tricky And god willing i didnt kill my seedling
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Put the bong down and back away slowly....Smoked some well aged herbs, and got to staring at my SIP, and thought...
Can a SIP also be a fish tank?
Or partially incorporated into a fish tank?
Maybe bottom dwellers like catfish, some snails, and scum suckers?
Would it starve the plant and kill the fish? Or would both thrive?
Would it be inhumane to test it out with live fish... in the name of science?
Would you follow along even if I killed 2 dozen fish getting the system figured out???
I was thinking a normal fish tank with a tote sitting 3/4 on top (so i can still feed the fish) and a couple soil/ perlite pipes connecting em, as a prototype... but I won't post it on here if a belly-up goldfish would make anyone weep.
Like others said, that would be an aquaponics setup and tricky to get right. The reservoir would probably have to be aerated and somehow filtered otherwise the build-up of fish wastes will kill the fish.
I've had an aquaponics setup for a few years (non grow related) and found it worked well for non-flowering herbs like lettuce but trickier to get right for flowering stuff like flowers and tomatoes. It has to be 100% organic otherwise you'll kill the fish.
Lots of ways to get it wrong. I have read of some aquaponics setups working with our plants, but none were in SIPs, but rather some sort of a recirculating system. Mine is a flood and drain using a bell siphon in the grow beds and a water pump in the sump tank.
Put the bong down and back away slowly....
Like others said, that would be an aquaponics setup and tricky to get right. The reservoir would probably have to be aerated and somehow filtered otherwise the build-up of fish wastes will kill the fish.
I've had an aquaponics setup for a few years (non grow related) and found it worked well for non-flowering herbs like lettuce but trickier to get right for flowering stuff like flowers and tomatoes. It has to be 100% organic otherwise you'll kill the fish.
Lots of ways to get it wrong. I have read of some aquaponics setups working with our plants, but none were in SIPs, but rather some sort of a recirculating system. Mine is a flood and drain using a bell siphon in the grow beds and a water pump in the sump tank.
RedskinnedRhino
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I've seen the aquaponics setups, running the fish-poo-water over the plants and such.Put the bong down and back away slowly....
Like others said, that would be an aquaponics setup and tricky to get right. The reservoir would probably have to be aerated and somehow filtered otherwise the build-up of fish wastes will kill the fish.
I've had an aquaponics setup for a few years (non grow related) and found it worked well for non-flowering herbs like lettuce but trickier to get right for flowering stuff like flowers and tomatoes. It has to be 100% organic otherwise you'll kill the fish.
Lots of ways to get it wrong. I have read of some aquaponics setups working with our plants, but none were in SIPs, but rather some sort of a recirculating system. Mine is a flood and drain using a bell siphon in the grow beds and a water pump in the sump tank.
I was more thinking a regular fish tank that just happens to have a gigantic weed plant growing out of it. I'll foliar any heavy nutrients the plant needs, and fill the tank with cool bottom feeders - crayfish, snails, etc. Fish that like cloudy water.
I'm going to run the dirt down into the water in a netted pipe, but I fully expect it to make the water cloudy until it settles.
I'm not looking for a perfect union of symbiosis, where fish feeds plant and plant filters fish poo and no one needs my help.
Just a big ass weed plant growing out of a cool fish tank where they both thrive and look awesome on my instagram...
Nick & The Giant SIP update
I made some design changes. The periscope got new holes and then I cut out both layers between ‘scope and medium areas.
I have a journal for it which I will add to my sig. Journal wise is will be a Slow burner*. Popped last night, Red ahot Killer Cookies. Should I make it that far flip is probably mid November and harvest January?
*unless it grows too fast
Nick
I made some design changes. The periscope got new holes and then I cut out both layers between ‘scope and medium areas.
I have a journal for it which I will add to my sig. Journal wise is will be a Slow burner*. Popped last night, Red ahot Killer Cookies. Should I make it that far flip is probably mid November and harvest January?
*unless it grows too fast
Nick
TequilaSIPr
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Hi all! What temp range do you all like to keep your tents at i thought the 60s was kinda low so i threw a heater in there killed the humidity level
goowa
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Ive got my threshold set at 75, but the humidity threshold gets tripped on mine more often than temp.Hi all! What temp range do you all like to keep your tents at i thought the 60s was kinda low so i threw a heater in there killed the humidity level
Edit:
Check out a VPD chart if you arent familiar with that yet to get dialed in:
Vapor Pressure Deficit - The Ultimate Guide - Dimlux Lighting - The Best Grow Lights
Simply put, Vapor Pressure Deficit measures the difference between the amount of drying power the atmosphere is exerting upon your plants. VPD is the key...
www.dimluxlighting.com
Double Edit:
Just scrolled up and saw y ou have the new AC controller...disregard my VPD chart heh.
TequilaSIPr
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Hi all! What temp range do you all like to keep your tents at i thought the 60s was kinda low so i threw a heater in there killed the humidity level
thanks for the link my numbers are a little off compared to ^ the acinfinity is on seedling auto
I had to flush a SIP grow today. I had her in a 5G bucket with a GroBucket SIP insert. I duct-taped a smaller tube to the end of my shop vac and just vacuumed out any runoff as it went into the res. Meanwhile, I filled an old homebrewing bucket with 5G of water and used a piece of tubing to run the water through Julie. It worked pretty well, I was able to run 5G of water through then 2L of nutrients. I'll fill back up the SIP res tomorrow and let her continue that way.
Excellent use of ye old Ale Pail!
Gidorah
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What was the reason for the flush if you dont mind me asking?
goowa
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Saucer under the bucket instead of mopping up overflow every time. Why didn't I think of that!I had to flush a SIP grow today. I had her in a 5G bucket with a GroBucket SIP insert. I duct-taped a smaller tube to the end of my shop vac and just vacuumed out any runoff as it went into the res. Meanwhile, I filled an old homebrewing bucket with 5G of water and used a piece of tubing to run the water through Julie. It worked pretty well, I was able to run 5G of water through then 2L of nutrients. I'll fill back up the SIP res tomorrow and let her continue that way.
I wanted to flush her current soil and start feeding her a new nutrient mix. She's struggling hard and I'm trying to get her happy.