Oh yeah, I'm all about that burlap. Noice! Let's start a trend (this pic's not current, but I do still have new burlap on hand and new seeds! Ready to rock!) . Thanks for the reminder of your project, Mellville. It's awesome. How much soil?
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Oh yeah, I'm all about that burlap. Noice! Let's start a trend (this pic's not current, but I do still have new burlap on hand and new seeds! Ready to rock!) . Thanks for the reminder of your project, Mellville. It's awesome. How much soil?
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I'm having a hell of a time eradicating fungus gnats. I've gotten em beat back to just a few random fliers, but if I relax for even a few days, they are back in force! You think a burlap cover would help me finish the war with those little bastards? You ever see any gnats moving thru the material? My next move is going to be weed-guard fabric if I can't find anything more suitable.
 
I'm having a hell of a time eradicating fungus gnats. I've gotten em beat back to just a few random fliers, but if I relax for even a few days, they are back in force! You think a burlap cover would help me finish the war with those little bastards? You ever see any gnats moving thru the material? My next move is going to be weed-guard fabric if I can't find anything more suitable.
I'm with you here. I work on the same floor as the tent and they dive bomb me all day if I don't keep them controlled. What are you using to beat them back?
 
I'm with you here. I work on the same floor as the tent and they dive bomb me all day if I don't keep them controlled. What are you using to beat them back?
I started with Dr Zymes, it works good to kill stuff in the air and on the plant (double recommended strength) - but using it as a root drench and spraying the soil surface just seems to make the problem worse. Once the soil dried out on top I started keeping a heavy dusting of D-earth on it and placing yellow sticky traps all around the area. This is only minimally effective. I tried SNS for gnats and a couple Off-the-shelf products from Walmart, but they were less than useless. Might as well have just tried to squish them with a $50 bill instead of wasting it on sprays.
I'm sick of this bullshit. I still see extra gnats stuck to the yellow pads every day and random fliers when i open the doors. I Want The Bastards Gone! I've never had an issue with gnats before, but this year they are invincible.
It's like I'm Russia and they're Ukraine. - I'm a big bad ass, with weapons to spare, but I can't claim victory over a miniature army in a tiny grow room!!!
I'm foaming at the mouth right now I'm so damned angry at having bugs in my space. I'm close to jettisoning every ounce of dirt, every clone, every pot - fogging the whole dammed world with Raid, and starting over. :lot-o-toke:🤬☠️
 
Thanks for the mention, Shed!
The treated water works in a SIP too- although a little top watering at first might speed the killing process up a bit.
 
Oh yeah, I'm all about that burlap. Noice! Let's start a trend (this pic's not current, but I do still have new burlap on hand and new seeds! Ready to rock!) . Thanks for the reminder of your project, Mellville. It's awesome. How much soil?
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Thanks RD!
The tote says it holds 63 litres, but I got 60 litres of soil in there on top of 10 litres of perlite, not to mention the perlite I added to the soil. There's another layer of burlap separating the soil and perlite, and a cotton bag holding the soil wick together.
I'm having a hell of a time eradicating fungus gnats. I've gotten em beat back to just a few random fliers, but if I relax for even a few days, they are back in force! You think a burlap cover would help me finish the war with those little bastards? You ever see any gnats moving thru the material? My next move is going to be weed-guard fabric if I can't find anything more suitable.
I would go straight for the weed guard if you decide to give fabric a shot. Burlap is a loose enough weave that they can probably just crawl right on through.
 
@RedskinnedRhino yes, mosquito bits ground to dust and deposited in reservoir. I broke it up over multiple fills. My single use of Bits was successful and the stuff is popular, I imagine, due to its ease of use. It has that ‘set it and forget it’ characteristic we humans are always positively gagging for.

You’ve managed to create a dry top layer, yeah? I know you have/had cedar shavings for mulch - controversial - and I’m really happy for you it has worked out.

When I had success without using ‘insecticides’ like Mosq-bits, it was with a fine sand layer on top, allowed to become popcorn-fart dry. I also installed a fine window screen on my drain hole, for those extra sneaky so-and-so’s.

I’m going to try finding some natural predators outside, in future, and introduce them indoors this year sometime.

Look, we’re in danger everyday as a result of recent political and geopolitical events. We’re all, ‘living dangerously’ whether we know it or not. So I choose to be as dangerous as possible in the hope of generating a deterrent effect - in the garden my love, in the garden!
 
I am officially a SIPPER!

Yesterday I built two 5 gallon SIP buckets following the instructions here.
Took about an hour (if you remove the time I spent fiddling about, smoking a doobie, and looking for the right tools).




The center hole for the "wick" is only about an inch and a half round - hope that is enough.


I used a grinder to notch the bottom that sits in the water. This should help airflow.



I read recently that airflow is important to the roots so instead of using the half inch PVC for the overflow I used 3/4 - same as the fill tube.


I'll put tiny fruit netting bags on both pipes to keep critters out. I used some blue painters tape to cover the bottom third of the buckets to help reduce algae growth. May not be an issue as the irrigation piping is black and not much water will sit outside of the donut.

Today I up-potted two plants into the SIP buckets. Took about an hour.
I used half FFOF and half used soil from last year (which was new FFOF). Also added lots of perlite - especially to the bottom third. I also added the GROW DOTS to the soil for timed-release nutrients. I placed about a third of the soil into the bottom of the bucket, thoroughly soaked the soil and lightly pressed it down into the center hole. Added another third and soaked the soil. Added the last third on top, soaked that, then transplanted. I ended up short of the soil I added DOTS to, so I just added some of the used soil mix on top - about an inch. This puts the DOTS goodies lower so no biggie. Soaked again until runoff out of the overflow pipe.

Here they are sitting pretty.



I'm a little worried about the DOTS releasing nutes in a timely manner. I may need to add some liquid nutes and top water. We'll see if they start to yellow a bit again.

Wish me luck!

Freedom Isn't Free - today we remember our fallen warriors.​
GB, your build is cleaner than the example in the Instructables link! Well done! Keep us updated, will you please? I'm using upside-down smaller buckets in 5 gal, also nested 3 gals in 5 gals w/net cup wicks, and false floors made from lids... Quite a diverse, raucous, chaotic mix for my 5 gal SIP fleet - all because materials were accumulated during an 18-month collection period committed to low no-cost materials. I think we're going to learn an awful lot about SIPs and SIP gardening together... and we've had an awfully good start already thanks to Azimuth, and everyone contributing so much (you're all awesome). I certainly welcome your esteemed company in whatever capacity, friend!
 
I'm having a hell of a time eradicating fungus gnats. I've gotten em beat back to just a few random fliers, but if I relax for even a few days, they are back in force! You think a burlap cover would help me finish the war with those little bastards? You ever see any gnats moving thru the material? My next move is going to be weed-guard fabric if I can't find anything more suitable.
I used this product specifically.
 
GB, your build is cleaner than the example in the Instructables link! Well done! Keep us updated, will you please? I'm using upside-down smaller buckets in 5 gal, also nested 3 gals in 5 gals w/net cup wicks, and false floors made from lids... Quite a diverse, raucous, chaotic mix for my 5 gal SIP fleet - all because materials were accumulated during an 18-month collection period committed to low no-cost materials. I think we're going to learn an awful lot about SIPs and SIP gardening together... and we've had an awfully good start already thanks to Azimuth, and everyone contributing so much (you're all awesome). I certainly welcome your esteemed company in whatever capacity, friend!
Thanks RD!
Two days later and all good so far. I suspect I'll see issues in the next 5-6 days if there is a problem with anything. Hoping for smooth sailing from here to harvest. Hey I can dream.
LOL! :laughtwo:
 
@Carcass has a tried and true method of dealing with gnats:

Mosquito dunks in a 5 gallon bucket of plain water. Leave them for 24 hours to fill the water with good bacteria and then use it to water your plants and mix your nutes. Keep adding water to the bucket and the bacteria will multiply and replace the ones you take out, so you won't need more dunks for a couple of weeks.
I tried mosquito dunks for a short period - but I didn't ground them up, just busted it into pieces. I also gave up on it after just a few days.
I'll turn a dunk into powder and try it again.
 
@RedskinnedRhino yes, mosquito bits ground to dust and deposited in reservoir. I broke it up over multiple fills. My single use of Bits was successful and the stuff is popular, I imagine, due to its ease of use. It has that ‘set it and forget it’ characteristic we humans are always positively gagging for.

You’ve managed to create a dry top layer, yeah? I know you have/had cedar shavings for mulch - controversial - and I’m really happy for you it has worked out.

When I had success without using ‘insecticides’ like Mosq-bits, it was with a fine sand layer on top, allowed to become popcorn-fart dry. I also installed a fine window screen on my drain hole, for those extra sneaky so-and-so’s.

I’m going to try finding some natural predators outside, in future, and introduce them indoors this year sometime.

Look, we’re in danger everyday as a result of recent political and geopolitical events. We’re all, ‘living dangerously’ whether we know it or not. So I choose to be as dangerous as possible in the hope of generating a deterrent effect - in the garden my love, in the garden!
I think the cedar mulch was effective for my large SIP, where the soil surface never got wet. My smaller SIPs though, the surface never dries completely, and this seems to make it a nesting ground for gnats, cedar be damned.
I'm gonna send my helper to Home Depot on his way to work this morning, have him pick me up a box of Bits and Dunks, get this show on the road!
 
Mosquito dunks in a 5 gallon bucket of plain water. Leave them for 24 hours to fill the water with good bacteria and then use it to water your plants and mix your nutes. Keep adding water to the bucket and the bacteria will multiply and replace the ones you take out, so you won't need more dunks for a couple of weeks.
@RedskinnedRhino
I really like this Carcass/Shed approach. Bits/Dunks

You don't happen to have any goldfish? Or an outdoor pond? I've had some fever dreams weird ideas lately, ideas that might apply to the fungus gnat issue, at least tangentially.

Initially I had been looking into using fish and pond plants to innoculate a separate, 50 gal reservoir that would feed a group of attached SIPs via gravity feed and control 'bucket'. I've seen some very interesting results from people merely putting fish into a 5gal bucket for 24hrs and then removing fish and adding to plants/SIPs. Apparently, there is some witchcraft exceptional microbes on/in the fish and some mature, living ponds that look like they make minor miracles when introduced.

A couple of months ago I started wondering about skipping all the plumbing and maybe just put fish in my individual SIP reservoir! OK, now, don't freak out, we're not talking about 4 inches of water inside a drain pipe. I have one 420 SIP design setup that uses one of those cheap, kinda pliable, always-in-blue, Rubbermaid totes you see everywhere, but this one is low profile, maybe 8-10 inches high. However, it holds 10 gallons and I use the entire tote as a reservoir by placing the pot, a 7-gallon plastic nursery pot, on top of the tote lid, then connect them with 4-inch perf. drain pipe. Anyway, With this large reservoir, it occurred to me that I could put a few fish in there.

Am I a terrible person? I don't think so, I'd be looking after those fish pretty well, really. The fish would also, I bet, have an impact on the fungus gnat issue, or more likely, prevent one altogether.

It's aquaponics and SIPs smooshed into one. I can't have been the first to think of this and I'm sure its been done, but the closest I've seen was a weird DWC tank w/fish grow that didn't make it to harvest (dunno why).
 
I'm usually plagued by things of the sciaridae line of gnats but haven't had them show up using the SIP.
I put a yellow sticky card just in case as those are quite effective to see if there's something breeding in the tent and to catch strays finding a way in.
I still find mechanicals ways pretty effective, sticky stuff or ground down diatoms.

So far so good though I'm hoping they keep avoiding the SIP.


 
I've seen some very interesting results from people merely putting fish into a 5gal bucket for 24hrs and then removing fish and adding to plants/SIPs
Careful with just adding fish directly to a non-innoculated container. I remember when I set up my aquaponics system I had to build it up slowly as the ammonia the fish produce will kill them over a short amount of time without the right microbes. If you're just doing it for a day it probably doesn't matter much, but for a longer term SIP application you'll want to set it up properly.

There are some microbes that feed on the ammonia waste produced by the fish and convert it to nitrites, then others that consume the nitrites and convert them to nitrates which the plants then take up, cleaning the water for the fish, at least in that loop.

So, you can't just start with water and fish because without the microbes the fish will die. BUT, you can inoculate the water with some from an already established system, or borrow the mechanical filter/microbe housing from another established tank. I use fish tank pebbles in a little colander to hold mine in my system.
 
Colour me pink all over with SIPs!

She’s Day #43 Flower Strawberry Solo SIP (Photo/Fem) 63 Days/9 Weeks indicated.

I mean yeah an 80ml/3.5oz res means the ease of watering thing (twice a day - probably could take a bit more - a little top watering happens too)

I’m helping a mate do a greenhouse grow 1000’s of miles away and he will be away 2 weeks in like 6-7 weeks of flower so def some SIP version for that. Not settled on it but very, very cool!

❤️

Nick

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I’m helping a mate do a greenhouse grow 1000’s of miles away and he will be away 2 weeks in like 6-7 weeks of flower so def some SIP version for that. Not settled on it but very, very cool!
Perfect! Fill the reservoir for week 6 and it'll do a drought in week 7 for more potent buds. Almost like he planned it that way. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
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