7 days in the SIP buckets and these plants look really good. I have not yet added any water, and the nutes are timed-release Grow Dots mixed into the soil when I transplanted. Still has water in the res (I measure with a bamboo stick). I'll top off this evening or tomorrow.


So far so good!
Lookin' slick GB. Except.... there are condoms on your fill port and overflow pipe. Why? Want to keep bugs out?
 
Hey folks. Cookies auto at 12 weeks. It's in sips and just curios if its to late to give her drought stress to increase trichromes? It's from fastbuds, still plenty of white hairs so assuming I've still 2/3 weeks until she's done. Been top dressing amendments every 2nd Fri. In the last few weeks her leaves have gotten a little darker l with the odd slight tip burn so thinking of just giving he lr water from bow until she's ready, would yous agree? Thanks advance for any feedback.. 👍
Hey Gaz, it's time to give them a good droughting I think!
 
Hello SIP Club. I would like to show you my purple queen at the beginning of 4 weeks in flower and with sips growing almost in front of my eyes growing under two XS1500 PROs and this is what it looks like.
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Lookin' slick GB. Except.... there are condoms on your fill port and overflow pipe. Why? Want to keep bugs out?
Ha!
Yes I used small fruit mesh bags to keep bugs out of the res (I'm outdoors).
There were ants circling yesterday so I sprayed neem around the overflow tray.
What are those XXXXXX Large? :laughtwo:
You know what they say about guys with big feet plants with big roots.
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Hello SIP Club. I would like to show you my purple queen at the beginning of 4 weeks in flower and with sips growing almost in front of my eyes growing under two XS1500 PROs and this is what it looks like.
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Beautiful!
Look at that tree trunk!
 
Oh my god an active sip forum seriously ?
I am making mine currently after like 5 styles I think I master it , now I am buying 80litre buckets and putting an insert in the base and plonking 50l inside of soil

I will hook the bucket/bins up to a control float and a res to keep em filled

I am using a custom organic soil water only and am curious to what soil nutrients you all use and the level of perlite etc

These are the buckets I struggled to find one allowing 15inch depth for microbes and 50l soil where you guys get a 17galbucket bucket from I don’t k ow lol
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Oh my god an active sip forum seriously ?
I am making mine currently after like 5 styles I think I master it , now I am buying 80litre buckets and putting an insert in the base and plonking 50l inside of soil

I will hook the bucket/bins up to a control float and a res to keep em filled

I am using a custom organic soil water only and am curious to what soil nutrients you all use and the level of perlite etc

These are the buckets I struggled to find one allowing 15inch depth for microbes and 50l soil where you guys get a 17galbucket bucket from I don’t k ow lol
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Plants in a 5 gallon SIP already grow into giants, you looking to grow a 10ft tree in that thing?
 
Hey @Pondwater , welcome the The Club.

Yes, we are very much active, and the thread moves pretty fast.

The larger SIPs have typically been built in rectangular storage totes that come in various sizes but, as @RedskinnedRhino says, those things are perfect capable of growing some monster plants.

Add your auto fill to it and you probably wouldn't need a very big reservoir at all.

Happy to have you join us.

Azi
 
Plants in a 5 gallon SIP already grow into giants, you looking to grow a 10ft tree in that thing?
Please frigging advise me lol @Azimuth too lol ive been circling weeks now everyone keeps saying if I do 5gal then il need to feed heavily as soil will run outa food ,I’m told 10 gal maybe even 15 and one dude swapped to 20 gal ffs . I feel like crying as it’s hard to find acceptable pots

Now the reason I was against the tote is microbeman aka Tim Wilson is an amazing microbogogist who tests shit and brewers etc under the scope to see optimum balance for most microbes etc he makes tea brewers and a recipie to maximise them on microbeorganics.com he’s on YouTube and icmag he’s really cool, he found that 12 to 15inches depth soil was the balance needed to achieve proper microbial balance and give them the depth they needed to cycle better , thrailer found topics showing deeper pots hold more oxygen than shallow pots too which could correlate to the microbe populations ,
So I set about to make sure I had 15inch of soil above the water this round ,
And everywhere states I need 10gal to do water only too so these buckets do that (which is killing me to buy as I am skint lol and I’ve got 5gal buckets out my ears in the garden )

I just don’t want to loose yield as I depend on it giantly to keep me afloat I need meds constantly so if I run out it costs me a bomb to buy

My setup is bxeb bridgelux strip leds 480w 3500spec pannels that cover a 7x7 scrog area they are 4x2 foot each giving around 35w per square ft they replaced my 1200w hps with better yields and quality
My first hydro yielded 72oz salt
My first coots soil run I yielded 47oz
I need to make sure I hit 5oz a plant minimum or the mrs tokes it all before I can cook it lol So 9 buckets

I am in a bed atm but 7grows on I got salt buildup and rebuilt it but I want to go single pots so I can get around more and so I can space them out better

I have soil with
1] organic comfrey and sheep wool bracken made for veg and flowers and feeds tomato’s for a year , it’s amazing and has a 5-3-8 npk competition winner here
2] Rocket compost is biodigest microbe soil at 3-1-2 3 month feed
3] and my castings at 2-1-3 npk

this will be mixed to my
4] peat which is enriched bat poo starter which is 2-2-2
5] Chicken poop 3-4-4 and ca9 slow digest pellet small amounts
6]mulch layer which has organic npk content 4-2-5 worms love the stuff


I feed water and a microbe tea which is fish/kelp/ewc/soft rock phos /em1/mollasses at microbe man’s dose which is to feed microbes so kelps added at ratios like 0.63% etc not enough to salt the soil or stop microbes growth

I have 2 grows here’s a pic of my current 10gal fabric bed to see what I do this one is under hlg350 and one of my pannels Loft
And my room I am talking about changing

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Please frigging advise me lol @Azimuth too lol ive been circling weeks now everyone keeps saying if I do 5gal then il need to feed heavily as soil will run outa food ,I’m told 10 gal maybe even 15 and one dude swapped to 20 gal ffs . I feel like crying as it’s hard to find acceptable pots

Now the reason I was against the tote is microbeman aka Tim Wilson is an amazing microbogogist who tests shit and brewers etc under the scope to see optimum balance for most microbes etc he makes tea brewers and a recipie to maximise them on microbeorganics.com he’s on YouTube and icmag he’s really cool, he found that 12 to 15inches depth soil was the balance needed to achieve proper microbial balance and give them the depth they needed to cycle better , thrailer found topics showing deeper pots hold more oxygen than shallow pots too which could correlate to the microbe populations ,
So I set about to make sure I had 15inch of soil above the water this round ,
And everywhere states I need 10gal to do water only too so these buckets do that (which is killing me to buy as I am skint lol and I’ve got 5gal buckets out my ears in the garden )

I just don’t want to loose yield as I depend on it giantly to keep me afloat I need meds constantly so if I run out it costs me a bomb to buy

My setup is bxeb bridgelux strip leds 480w 3500spec pannels that cover a 7x7 scrog area they are 4x2 foot each giving around 35w per square ft they replaced my 1200w hps with better yields and quality
My first hydro yielded 72oz salt
My first coots soil run I yielded 47oz
I need to make sure I hit 5oz a plant minimum or the mrs tokes it all before I can cook it lol So 9 buckets

I am in a bed atm but 7grows on I got salt buildup and rebuilt it but I want to go single pots so I can get around more and so I can space them out better

I have soil with
1] organic comfrey and sheep wool bracken made for veg and flowers and feeds tomato’s for a year , it’s amazing and has a 5-3-8 npk competition winner here
2] Rocket compost is biodigest microbe soil at 3-1-2 3 month feed
3] and my castings at 2-1-3 npk

this will be mixed to my
4] peat which is enriched bat poo starter which is 2-2-2
5] Chicken poop 3-4-4 and ca9 slow digest pellet small amounts
6]mulch layer which has organic npk content 4-2-5 worms love the stuff


I feed water and a microbe tea which is fish/kelp/ewc/soft rock phos /em1/mollasses at microbe man’s dose which is to feed microbes so kelps added at ratios like 0.63% etc not enough to salt the soil or stop microbes growth

I have 2 grows here’s a pic of my current 10gal fabric bed to see what I do this one is under hlg350 and one of my pannels Loft
And my room I am talking about changing

42C40389-9420-4FDE-BF5E-B8BA42768B01.jpeg


336B1824-40ED-49F8-9C0A-92C77A2C7032.jpeg
Sounds like you've done your homework and have a good handle on what you need. :thumb:

@StoneOtter just finished an organic "TLO" grow in earthboxes that I don't believe are that deep and his grow was great.

I grow organically in 2 Gallon buckets but I also feed plant extracts to them along the way. So, lots of ways to get after it.
 
Azimuth, as per cardboard and does it need replacing due to rain, no it does not. I place new cardboard Just once a year, when planters are deployed in spring. Rain doesn't hurt them. We don't get a great deal of it in the growing season here - we get more than our fair share in winter - although we are in a unique rain shadow here that serves Victoria very well receiving about half the rain Seattle does each winter and they are not so many miles South of me, by boat, straight line, around 50 in fact. But, all that water is why it is so stunningly lush here in spring, summer, and fall when the sun is out. Anyway, I don't have to worry about these SIPs taking on much water.

The soil has been innoculated all winter and spring with endo mycos, strep, bacillus, and trich's and reservoir are refilled all season long with 1:500 KNF potions, kelp+humic acid, Green Leaf's Sweet Candy, and light to heavy M3ga Cr0p ferts, although this year some are growing using my new RD-Special Worm Castings, and Sweet Candy only, to test for first time this year. I'm very excited about the castings formula I developed, so far I've only grown 2 small cannabis SIPs with it (approx 2 parts promix, 1 part castings and some extra perlite. That weed remains the strongest buzz I've produced in my new indoor setup in the two-plus years I've been running it. Smooth too and its not even fully cured yet. I love that next-day explosion of growth and health that only a dose of worm poop tea provides. It is miraculous shit.

And yes, a nice big huge cannabis tree, 20ft high will grow in those trash-can SIPs, (admittedly they do receive a 3-ft. boost) and they hold 10 gallons of fertigation or water, depending on materials used, which does last a very, very long time esp. if you mulch it so as to maximize (cardboard, or plastic if you want to stretch it to over 14 days in veg, or 7 days at highest demand level, mid/late-flower).

These cukes and tomatoes are going to explode in growth and produce more fruit than you would imagine possible. Surprises me every year, still. Soil is a mix of recycled cannabis Promix, well-cooked super soil from my giant raised bed (can be seen in the background), and leaf compost. Lots and lots of 5-7 year-old leaf compost that I keep in garbage bags in a deep hole. Each bag gets a handful of wormcastings and mycos when 'sealed'. It just keeps things moving faster and in movable, identifiable (by year) package. Every SIP got microbe infusions, worm teas, etc to get started and the first fill is not heavily fertilized but is heavily conditioned with things to feed microbes, install auxins (kelp, willow) and other hormones, and otherwise condition the soil. There's so damn much of it in each SIP, gotta imagine 30 gallons of soil in the trash cans, that I'm very conscious of needing the soil to have the right properties from day one. No screwing around, just like when growing weed. Not here to fuck around and look cool, I'm trying to feed myself the best food possible while only spending money on inexpensive staples like rice and oatmeal, etc. , in bulk at low prices, just like I was living up in the islands, off-grid again.

I don't have to water but once a week at most throughout season, and nothing bad happens if it goes two weeks, although I may yet set these guys up on a gravity-fed, control bucket auto-fill system I made that sources from a 50 gal drum. Next year I mean to set six of these huge SIPs up on this auto-system, waaay up on my roof where I typically keep a nice garden on the flat area. I have damage up there currently however and must fix before next rainy season, but have to do it myself ($$) so it will take all summer. No auto-fed roof-weed this year. Really disappointed, but I didn't have any genetics in time anyway, and its the only hidden outdoor location to grow that I have onsite, outside. I'm an OG outdoor guerilla grower, at volume, so in my heart I always want to grow trees outside. But considering the control I have inside, and with two 5x5 flower tents, each with a 1100w top-end
LED, I really don't have any reasons left to grow outside and risk attracting negative attention.

Dont forget that you can supercharge your diet and your health by sprouting seeds and eating sprouts every day. Nothing is healthier. Mung beans cost pennies, sunflower seeds, wheat seeds (go for the white over everyone else's recommendation the red, the white is far less prone to mould, and most large Victoria, Seattle, Vancouver grocery stores carry in bulk. I also grow for wheatgrass and juice it after 7 days. You can always grow some food in the empty spaces under your grow lights... I do.

These couldn't be simpler to build, and the growth, the produce is stunning. I'll keep this thread intermittently updated with pics of these guys in particular, though I'll show you my 12, 5-gallon tomato plant SIPs soon also. I find that now, since having indoor equip that I can use to keep growing more seedlings all the time, growing vegetables this way is extremely efficient, and a much different experience to what you may have had in the past, as I've mentioned. I choose to decorate with those succulent plants because I have a bajillion of them (I sell them in the summer) but it means I really can ignore the whole area for a week at a time if I have to, which, unfortunately, is happening quite a lot lately.

I've developed a serious problem with my swallowing. Specifically, I can't anymore. It always gets stuck 1/3 the way down and then has to come back up. Every. Single. Time. Some days I struggle even to take water, although I recently developed a procedure requiring me to tuck my chin in and down as much as possible to successfully swallow liquids. Fun. I've been living on juiced wheatgrass, slimfast and vitamins for weeks, nay, coming on months now. Cannot get a proper diagnosis yet, a swallow test ruled out some things but wasn't diagnostic.

However, in my research, I have discovered that it has an across-the-board 80% mortality rate in 24 months., this means regardless the cause or specific mechanics, age, whatever, 80% of people with this problem die in 2 years! Yeesh! I'm in my forties! So, we're gonna get something figured out because I'm losing 5 pounds a week presently, reliably. Now, because I'm a natural genius I made sure that I was plenty overweight before all of this started a few months ago. Brilliant when you think about it. ha!
Sorry to hear about your health. Has anyone broached the topic of throat elongation?
 
Sounds like you've done your homework and have a good handle on what you need. :thumb:

@StoneOtter just finished an organic "TLO" grow in earthboxes that I don't believe are that deep and his grow was great.

I grow organically in 2 Gallon buckets but I also feed plant extracts to them along the way. So, lots of ways to get after it.
I’d love to hear more man 2 gal only how the hell?
I feed them like 1gal a day by hand each currently lol adding feed doesn’t bother me , I saw you talking about digested bio feeds somewhere ?
Are you saying I could do 5gal and get the same as 10 gal if I feed? That’s more manageable than all that soil to be honest and costs less ,I’d love to pick you brains brother !! Got a diary ?
 
If you flip back to Page 1 of this thread, you'll see a monster plant @Buds Buddy grew in a 5 gal bucket with chemical ferts that yielded over a pound, and several growers are using Geoflora nutes to power their organic grows in SIPS. The geoflora add organic nutrients plus the microbes to help break them down every two weeks allowing an organic grow even in a sterile medium like coco.

I've been experimenting with Jadam water-based plant extracts and you can read about that in the Alchemy thread in my sig.

SIPs usually grow bigger, healthier plants because there is no pause in growth during the typical dry cycle since we don't have one.
 
I’d love to hear more man 2 gal only how the hell?
I feed them like 1gal a day by hand each currently lol adding feed doesn’t bother me , I saw you talking about digested bio feeds somewhere ?
Are you saying I could do 5gal and get the same as 10 gal if I feed? That’s more manageable than all that soil to be honest and costs less ,I’d love to pick you brains brother !! Got a diary ?
Hi Pondwater, the 5 gal grows are producing very large outcomes and so healthy! My SIP adventure went well enough in an Earthbox holding 10+ gallons of LOS. I wanted to buy off the shelf. I didn't have to though because so many of us created great designs in SIP tech! I watered with RO and only added cal/mag for the most part. Some microbial feeds in the rez too. All with just about no problems! Nice to see you interested in SIP tech! I'm converting to it! Enjoy!
 
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