Shottafire's Manic Organic 2kw Perpetual With Supersoil & Teas

[shottafire]

Hey steppen thanks man. My room is roughly 12x20 I now have a smaller room inside the room which used to be my veg room. Now I use it to trim, wash, and dry my harvests. The smaller room is roughly 6x8 feet. I may do away with the extra room in there soon. But for now she goes so i wont tweak the garden for at least two more cycles.

That flo is such a picky plant and I am getting quite sick of her so shes gone after this.

 

[Doc Bud]

Hey steppen thanks man. My room is roughly 12x20 I now have a smaller room inside the room which used to be my veg room. Now I use it to trim, wash, and dry my harvests. The smaller room is roughly 6x8 feet. I may do away with the extra room in there soon. But for now she goes so i wont tweak the garden for at least two more cycles.

That flo is such a picky plant and I am getting quite sick of her so shes gone after this.

Flo doesn't like to be fed. A pot of dirt can grow Flo.....nutes make her leaves curl up. It's good smoke when it comes out right.....good, but not great. I don't grow it anymore either.

 

[shottafire]

Yeah I am done with her. Shes harder than my psycho ex so it is not really hard to do the math. keep the compatible strains around and kick the others to the curb.

 

[miwa]

Happy Totesday Shot...plants looking good..i think its ok to use UT..i just don't show my face...yep...got to do something about these elect bills...been running my gen..but now gas prices is on the rise...can't afford solar..going to do some research on inverters...just ordered this...Sun System Super Sun 2 Reflector Grow Light | eBay..if only i had solar..focus

 

[miwa]

check this...30% Federal Solar Investment Tax Creditgonna do more research..see if i can come up with some reasonable numbers...

 

[shottafire]

I want a few of the off grid 1850 watt units. Then just have them delivered to the middle of nowhere and set up camp somewhere deep in the backcountry and do some soul cleansing and play music to the crops. Practice permaculture and grow grade A organic medicine of all varieties. My imagination is running wild must be the grape krush I chopped a bit early to get a taste.

Thanks for the link miwa.

 

[miwa]

I want a few of the off grid 1850 watt units. Then just have them delivered to the middle of nowhere and set up camp somewhere deep in the backcountry and do some soul cleansing and play music to the crops. Practice permaculture and grow grade A organic medicine of all varieties. My imagination is running wild must be the grape krush I chopped a bit early to get a taste.

Thanks for the link miwa.

...sounds good to me...

 

[shottafire]

A couple photos of the veg chamber.

I am currently happy with everything right now. I have some splotchy leaves on a few plants from treating the plants with some baking soda spray made it a touch too strong I guess. I am thinking it was due to wet feet and keeping the soil a little wetter since the environment my veg is in now is cooler and a little damper. I had some PM show up and i understand that once the plant is infected that it is in the plant and treating the leaves will only help the leaves but there is usually problems present in the soil. So I am presently letting these plants with the problem dry out more than normal to try and rid myself of this. its not bad but I look at it as the potential of being bad and eradicating early.

Whatever on to the pics of whats happ'n in veg.

Strawberry tahoe

I ended up doing some training to this one and pinched a few more tops. Extremely branchy and great smell on the stem rubs. Im hoping this one grows fat buds on her piddly branches. probably not but the smoke will probably be da kine.

Blackberry Kush

These are the two that will be going into the flower room in a couple days after I chop the ugly 4 strain tray down.

These are in 7gallon smartpots using supersoil.

Agent orange lings.

A couple of clones taken from flowering plants a week into flower and the result is a monster cropped plant I guess. I dont know but these are bushier than normal for me.
grape krush

bubba

pretty slow going for them but they are now starting to move fairly quick. In three weeks they will go to flower.

A bunch of randoms still a little shy for an introduction but soon.

cheers everyone!!!

 

[shottafire]

11 days in the room so far and they are looking full and healthy.

All bubba

 

[miwa]

yep..real nice..i wonder why they call it monster crop..

 

[shottafire]

Not sure suppose I might go research more on it.

 

[Graytail]

That's some startling uniformity in your tray of Bubbas. I suppose that's what comes from cloning a strain for years. Do you have any sense of how many plants these cuts are descended from? How many plants did you take your first cuts from? And of course, future cuts come from the healthiest plants, some don't get chosen to grow, etc.

It just keeps getting better, huh? I'm gonna be rooting (*snork*) for you on this tray - you just might hit your mark.

 

[shottafire]

Thank you graytail. I have had her for two years or so and I have run this strain constantly so about 12 or so I would say. and before that my friend was cutting it for a year or so. I couldnt be sure how many times these have been cloned down. But to those who say they lose genetic potency as you keep cutting and never keeping a mother I disagree so far. It has only gotten better from when I got it. I know it will be a good run of it but I am truly concerned with quality over all. But 1.0 GPW is always a good benchmark to shoot for.

Thanks again Graytail

 

[Graytail]

I ran a room of Columbian sativas for 7 years - was a long time ago. We started with about 100 seeds, numbered each one, and kept track of them by number the entire time. Two thirds of them got culled or failed to root well in the first couple years, as we found the ones that yieilded best and were best adapted to our environment, and over time we whittled 'em down to a half dozen numbers.

We never noticed any deterioration in the quality of the strains, and at 5 month cycles, we would have run 17+ generations. Your uniformity reminded me - rang an old bell.



What I was getting at is do you have a sense of how many ancestors this group of cuts might have? When you take cuts, do you show favoritism, for instance? Do you totally ignore some, or take more from one plant than another? You're probably choosing the plants that thrive best in your environment and so they become increasingly alike.

 

[RainStacks]

Very interesting stuff here Shotta and Graytail. I had read in random places that sometimes the strain can lose potency as it is the age of the original plant, but this does not really seem logical since likely all the cells in the plants are new. I suppose they could have some type of memory, or it could depend on the strain too. I bet it is financially better for those who sell seeds for us to think we need to keep rejuvenating with new plants from seed.

I believe that donpaul.p has some good info on monstercropping in his thread. Keep up the great work Shotta, that canopy is looking masterfully even as always. +reps friend.

 

[Graytail]

I was just rethinking my math ...

We took cuts from 2 month old plants, so that's 6 per year times 7 years = 42 generations? Sheesh.

 

[shottafire]

I ran a room of Columbian sativas for 7 years - was a long time ago. We started with about 100 seeds, numbered each one, and kept track of them by number the entire time. Two thirds of them got culled or failed to root well in the first couple years, as we found the ones that yieilded best and were best adapted to our environment, and over time we whittled 'em down to a half dozen numbers.

We never noticed any deterioration in the quality of the strains, and at 5 month cycles, we would have run 17+ generations. Your uniformity reminded me - rang an old bell.



What I was getting at is do you have a sense of how many ancestors this group of cuts might have? When you take cuts, do you show favoritism, for instance? Do you totally ignore some, or take more from one plant than another? You're probably choosing the plants that thrive best in your environment and so they become increasingly alike.

I will only clone a healthy plant and i look for a bushy branchy plant to clone from. When I acquire new gear I take a couple clones from it and it will goe to flower soon after.
I am getting ready to do some cloning in a week or so actually and they are all from seed. Hoping I can find a male soon to begin my breeding project.

Started the chop tonight and its gonna be a solo mission I think. Not too bad though its not a very heavy tray by the looks of it.

 

[shottafire]

Mine are at least 12-15 generations.

 

[shottafire]

Very interesting stuff here Shotta and Graytail. I had read in random places that sometimes the strain can lose potency as it is the age of the original plant, but this does not really seem logical since likely all the cells in the plants are new. I suppose they could have some type of memory, or it could depend on the strain too. I bet it is financially better for those who sell seeds for us to think we need to keep rejuvenating with new plants from seed.

I believe that donpaul.p has some good info on monstercropping in his thread. Keep up the great work Shotta, that canopy is looking masterfully even as always. +reps friend.

Thanks rainstacks. Yeah there is some debate on that but I have not witnessed such degradation over time yet.

I like the monstercropping idea for starting a mother plant to take a lot of cuts fast. I am figuring i will be able to take 12 clones from each in 2-3 weeks so i m happy with the timing on that.

Thanks for the reps and the kind words rain. I am always trying to bring some thing to the table that can help someone else. Hope i am doing that for ya.

 

[KingJohnC]

your screen looks great!