Wow man! Big healthy bushes.. You should be very happy with yourself so far 
Rascio - It's Growing!
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Wow man! Big healthy bushes.. You should be very happy with yourself so far
Soon they'll have more space to grow.
Just purchased a 60"×60"×80"h grow tent, and a 6" ostberg centrifigal blower. Should all be here for first week of aug.
BrixKlinger
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Rascio's Growing!
awwwwwww shit.....
Soon they'll have more space to grow.
Just purchased a 60"×60"×80"h grow tent, and a 6" ostberg centrifigal blower. Should all be here for first week of aug.
awwwwwww shit.....
I get so tickled watching another grower get caught up in "expansion". 
Great choices Rascio. Best of luck. From the looks of it you're making good use of luck already. Do you ever jump back and look at the earliest pictures? I get amazed at week to week in flowering. Oh man, I want a smooth grow with no crisis attached, so I can just enjoy the grow.
Brace yourself. There's this moment we don't talk about, when you finally have the major pieces in place, and you step back expecting to be satisfied but find yourself asking "WTF just happened?" You'll breeze past that, but for a moment you wonder. There was an innocence in growing simply that was satisfying in its own way. Not that I'd go back, mind you, but I'm still working to get my new environment to develop the natural feel of its predecessor.
Yeah, I'm a wee bit buzzed. But I'm right too.
Great choices Rascio. Best of luck. From the looks of it you're making good use of luck already. Do you ever jump back and look at the earliest pictures? I get amazed at week to week in flowering. Oh man, I want a smooth grow with no crisis attached, so I can just enjoy the grow. Brace yourself. There's this moment we don't talk about, when you finally have the major pieces in place, and you step back expecting to be satisfied but find yourself asking "WTF just happened?" You'll breeze past that, but for a moment you wonder. There was an innocence in growing simply that was satisfying in its own way. Not that I'd go back, mind you, but I'm still working to get my new environment to develop the natural feel of its predecessor.
Yeah, I'm a wee bit buzzed. But I'm right too.
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All part of the big plan . . .
This hobby brings together so many fascinations. Cannabis provides the lubrication, by highlighting a child-like wonder of all living things. When I was a student, I studied microbiology, biochemistry, then process engineering. Its almost as though I have avoided horticulture, though it forms a nice little intersection of my interests and passions. Now that I've started growing, I can hardly imagine stopping. its been a very long time since I've had a clear picture of where I want to be in 2 and even 5 years. It's a good feeling.
This hobby brings together so many fascinations. Cannabis provides the lubrication, by highlighting a child-like wonder of all living things. When I was a student, I studied microbiology, biochemistry, then process engineering. Its almost as though I have avoided horticulture, though it forms a nice little intersection of my interests and passions. Now that I've started growing, I can hardly imagine stopping. its been a very long time since I've had a clear picture of where I want to be in 2 and even 5 years. It's a good feeling.
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So I'm not happy eith the way I tried to top one of my baby silver hazes.
I snipped it in the wrong place and the top is all gnarly. I didn't even top it, just stressed it a little.
The second one I topped as intended
Which made it grow nice
So I'm gonna try again. I might just leave one of the extra nodes it started to form.
Oh and it looks like some cuttings I took from the Kush just after the first pistils showed might live. I put them in soil yesterday.
I made a cloning apparatus for these out of garbage. I poked holes in the lid of plastic leftover container and filled with water. I added a couple drops of transplant to the water, dipped the wet cuttings in Roots!, then dropped into the holes in the leftover container. I sat the whole thing in a deli chicken container with a clear plastic lid to keep things moist.
* after looking at some random journals, it seems many people start counting their days from when the shoot pokes out of the soil. I adjusted to reflect the norm.
I snipped it in the wrong place and the top is all gnarly. I didn't even top it, just stressed it a little.
The second one I topped as intended
Which made it grow nice
So I'm gonna try again. I might just leave one of the extra nodes it started to form.
Oh and it looks like some cuttings I took from the Kush just after the first pistils showed might live. I put them in soil yesterday.
I made a cloning apparatus for these out of garbage. I poked holes in the lid of plastic leftover container and filled with water. I added a couple drops of transplant to the water, dipped the wet cuttings in Roots!, then dropped into the holes in the leftover container. I sat the whole thing in a deli chicken container with a clear plastic lid to keep things moist.
* after looking at some random journals, it seems many people start counting their days from when the shoot pokes out of the soil. I adjusted to reflect the norm.
LOL, if you're not familiar with the story of the FIM technique ...
FIM stands for "f*ck, I missed".
I believe you've just experienced the discovery of the FIM technique. You should leave it the way it is. The trimming slowed everything down, and you'll get a nice group of branches coming from there. Give it a few days and watch - very cool when it works right.
FIM stands for "f*ck, I missed".
I believe you've just experienced the discovery of the FIM technique. You should leave it the way it is. The trimming slowed everything down, and you'll get a nice group of branches coming from there. Give it a few days and watch - very cool when it works right.
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Lemme see if I got this right.
Top too high (what I think I did) -- slowed apical growth. Increased branch growth.
Top just right -- FIM'd -- stops apical growth in favour of four branches coming from the place where its snipped
Top lower -- apex grows into two branches (like the second one, above)
Top too high (what I think I did) -- slowed apical growth. Increased branch growth.
Top just right -- FIM'd -- stops apical growth in favour of four branches coming from the place where its snipped
Top lower -- apex grows into two branches (like the second one, above)
LOL, if you're not familiar with the story of the FIM technique ...
FIM stands for "f*ck, I missed".
I'm not even going to admit to how long it took me to figure that out
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Will fork I missed it three times now, but at leasr I missed both ways so now alls I gotta do is interpolate ... hah
So my favourites are definitely in their stretch period.
They were less than 18" a week ago, and about 12" when they started flowering. My taller tent will be timely ... hopefully it gets here without me having to stress the Haze. Something tells me the Kush is almost done stretching, but who knows?
Cheers!
So my favourites are definitely in their stretch period.
They were less than 18" a week ago, and about 12" when they started flowering. My taller tent will be timely ... hopefully it gets here without me having to stress the Haze. Something tells me the Kush is almost done stretching, but who knows?
Cheers!
BrixKlinger
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FWIW my Master Kush only stretched for about 11 days, after which it was completely done.
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Good call Klinger!
Today the Kush is unchanged at 24", the Haze is 27 1/4" (+1.25"). I say grow baby grow. The parts that are stretching are the parts where it seems to be planning to make buds for me
The Kush looks like it really neefs a trim, but when it comes down to it, I have no idea what or if to cut.
Today the Kush is unchanged at 24", the Haze is 27 1/4" (+1.25"). I say grow baby grow. The parts that are stretching are the parts where it seems to be planning to make buds for me
The Kush looks like it really neefs a trim, but when it comes down to it, I have no idea what or if to cut.
Graytail? A little advice?
BrixKlinger
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*puts on his best Graytail face
I've been using Docs 5 node method, although I'm gonna be much better at it next round.
Couple points:
-top at 5 nodes when small
-once they are as bushy as you want, instead of counting from the bottom and topping, you count from the top and bottom! (see Klinger's San Francisco sexually confused vacation!)
In the past I have just gone in there and pulled shit out as needed till the canopy looks how I want. That can be alot of work and guesswork. This time I gave a 5 node trim the first week of flower. Pretty sure I won't need to do another trim, all buds sites are getting light, the net really allows the plants to pull apart in the middle (the net is my style, but the 5 node trim is clutch and would work for several training styles). In fact I'd go so far as to say that trim put my girls in the perfect spot to finish unmolested.
A good way to "know" what you need to trim is a combination of canopy density and branch size. (little suckers anywhere besides the top of the canopy are larf factories, even in the top of the canopy they will choke out the bottom and rob cola of energy, 5 node trimming basically identifies majors and rips everything else out!).
Nugs generally don't get hard without some light.
I've been using Docs 5 node method, although I'm gonna be much better at it next round.
Couple points:
-top at 5 nodes when small
-once they are as bushy as you want, instead of counting from the bottom and topping, you count from the top and bottom! (see Klinger's San Francisco sexually confused vacation!)
In the past I have just gone in there and pulled shit out as needed till the canopy looks how I want. That can be alot of work and guesswork. This time I gave a 5 node trim the first week of flower. Pretty sure I won't need to do another trim, all buds sites are getting light, the net really allows the plants to pull apart in the middle (the net is my style, but the 5 node trim is clutch and would work for several training styles). In fact I'd go so far as to say that trim put my girls in the perfect spot to finish unmolested.
A good way to "know" what you need to trim is a combination of canopy density and branch size. (little suckers anywhere besides the top of the canopy are larf factories, even in the top of the canopy they will choke out the bottom and rob cola of energy, 5 node trimming basically identifies majors and rips everything else out!).
Nugs generally don't get hard without some light.
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Thanks!
With the Kush, each of the four main branches has at least two secondary shoots with flower tops. I guess what I have to decide is whether to cultivate 8 or 12 tops. in the approx. 4 ft^2 of canopy. That calls for a big fatty and more free flow staring after work tonight.
With the Kush, each of the four main branches has at least two secondary shoots with flower tops. I guess what I have to decide is whether to cultivate 8 or 12 tops. in the approx. 4 ft^2 of canopy. That calls for a big fatty and more free flow staring after work tonight.
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Thank you SweetSue, for reminding me of something Graytail wrote in his thread:
The lower branches stay because they go all the way to the top.
I'll probably end up trimming off another 3 inches of skirt.
I have nearly seven gallons of soil each, so I think i'll pick 10-12 flower tops from each plant and trim everthing that isn't directly supporting their growth.
I had a specific question though.
Are the little 2-3 inch flowers like the one by my thumb destined to be suckers? I was going to trim them then thought it might he possible for them to merge with the bud and make gnarly sticky lumps down the road.
Cheers!
BrixKlinger
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I ate Graytail and I'm wearing his face now.
I refer to suckers as the skinny branches that average about 1-2mm thick, they are usually pretty uniform in thickness.
I wouldn't personally remove buds.
I refer to suckers as the skinny branches that average about 1-2mm thick, they are usually pretty uniform in thickness.
I wouldn't personally remove buds.
I can't see the entire plant, but I think I'd leave the ones by your thumb. I look at it in terms of penetration. I don't want a canopy more than 18 inches deep, and my experience is that the lower stuff just doesn't get enough light to mature properly.
So, sorta decide how deep you want the canopy to be, and trim off anything below that - not necessarily branches, but take the budsites off.
So, sorta decide how deep you want the canopy to be, and trim off anything below that - not necessarily branches, but take the budsites off.
You're welcome Rascio. I was thinking after I left that post that I may have stepped just a wee bit out of line calling him out like that, so I appreciate you letting it jog your memory. Good save. 
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Re: I ate Graytail and I'm wearing his face now.
Cool! thats more or less what I went ahead and did:
Yes, she definitely enjoyed over a gallon of water after the salon.
Oops!
There were a couple flower tops around 6-8 inches below the leaders that I may have left, but I think I've left the basis for a strong plant. Price I pay for trimming late I guess.
The Silver Haze has less to trim I think:
Maybe tomorrow
Cheers!
Cool! thats more or less what I went ahead and did:
Yes, she definitely enjoyed over a gallon of water after the salon.
Oops!
There were a couple flower tops around 6-8 inches below the leaders that I may have left, but I think I've left the basis for a strong plant. Price I pay for trimming late I guess.
The Silver Haze has less to trim I think:
Maybe tomorrow
Cheers!