PK Perpetual Grow Journal 2020

Anthony Suszko said:
Cut the dose of MC in half or go back to a gram measuring spoon.. Clones cant take an adult dose right off the bat, you need to work up to it.. There is also a MC plant color chart to trouble shoot from if your getting a lime-yellow thats no good.. Nutes can build up in the soil causing long lasting issues.. Sometimes it's better to flush them with water for a whole week or more and then look to see if they are bouncing back, paying attention to plant color then slowly bring them back on MC starting @ 3 grams per gall, raising it up each week.. Stay between 4-5GPG to be on the safe side.. youll get awesome results keeping the dose a little lower vs the other side of the spectrum giving them too much..
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we are talking about the main plant not the clones
 
PK1 said:
So, I've not updated the main plant in a while cuz the last conversation ont his was the amount of MC i was giving it.
I think i said 6.5 tbs last time which brought massive amount of burns. Although i am against flushingto a certain extend, i did go ahead and flushed the soil with in period of 6 hours and the finial watering had a mixture of 4.5grams of mc which my ppm reader said was at 650ppm

i've been giving that mixture for the last few days but i can't seem to put my fingure on what the issue is.

current temp 81 RH45%

This one is also mind blowing as i can't figure when this happend?
High/Low temp 92/61
High/Low RH 86%/25%

I have also done a slurry mix of the soil and checked the readings the next day.
ph 6.5
ppm 250

update:
i forgot to mention that the slurry test was done after the flushing before giving mc mixture the first time
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I know nothing about the MC. Never used it but see it a lot on here. It may be good stuff but maybe its time to back off. To me those look a bit heat stressed although your temps don't sound to outta wack but the 91 spike is pretty hot for a small tent area.
 
JimJonesJr said:
I know nothing about the MC. Never used it but see it a lot on here. It may be good stuff but maybe its time to back off. To me those look a bit heat stressed although your temps don't sound to outta wack but the 91 spike is pretty hot for a small tent area.
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agreed with the temp and how it jumped up out of wack.
I find MC to be a good nutri. One part and carries everything the plant needs from start to end.

could 650ppm be to much? reading back it seems she was fine at it previously :hmmmm:
 
@MochaBud, she is burnt right!!! fuking vancouver weather. Unpredictable

I'll set the ac temps to 25c and the digital temp meter to 28chigh 22clow
Get that exhust fan kicking in faster.

The only issue i get with this is the RH that jumps to around 55%+
 
@MochaBud i feed her the mixture water this morning at 9am. its 10am and i am about to do another water. I guess just keep it to tap water until the leaves start showing good signs?
 
And probably the worse time to burn her, right when she went into the stretch. I did the same thing to my cherry cookies mother; thought it was a good time to start her on MC and the bloom booster at the recommended rates, boy was I wrong. Fried the whole plant to the point she started dying off and went to compost.

I would think you would want to provide some nutrients to her since she is starting to flower, unless you think your media is still holding on to a lot of the accidental overdose nutrients.
 
PK1 said:
agreed with the temp and how it jumped up out of wack.
I find MC to be a good nutri. One part and carries everything the plant needs from start to end.

could 650ppm be to much? reading back it seems she was fine at it previously :hmmmm:
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I can't say anything about your ppm with that nutrient. I know nothing about it other than what I read now and then. Your biggest problem is the heat. Not many replies ago you had 65c in there. That just can't happen. I think once you get that issue under control you'll see a lot less problems. Luckily your next grow will be in the fall winter months. Much easier to manage the heat during that time.
I agree with Mocha...straight ph'd water for a minute. That MC must be some powerful nutrient. I see folks fry plants on here now and then. Always best to start slow....but you know that already.
First grows are frustrating at times but you'll get through it. So what if you don't get much or fail now and then. It gets better. I got faith in you.
 
PK1 said:
we are talking about the main plant not the clones
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I am talking about both clones and small plants. I suggest you keep flushing incase there is a build up of MC.. Once the plant begins responding/ starts coming back then start back up on low dose and ease up to your intended range..
 
MochaBud said:
:hmmmm: :hmmmm: did you end up mixing coco with that promix?
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No, I was wondering about that for when the clones or the seedling will be transplanted to the 5g pots

The Phantom said:
And probably the worse time to burn her, right when she went into the stretch. I did the same thing to my cherry cookies mother; thought it was a good time to start her on MC and the bloom booster at the recommended rates, boy was I wrong. Fried the whole plant to the point she started dying off and went to compost.

I would think you would want to provide some nutrients to her since she is starting to flower, unless you think your media is still holding on to a lot of the accidental overdose nutrients.
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Ya, I wont lie. I tested few things at a lower rate with AN and MC and it didn't go well. Although i've read places that MC and big bud can be used. Never gotten to that point to trying.

JimJonesJr said:
I can't say anything about your ppm with that nutrient. I know nothing about it other than what I read now and then. Your biggest problem is the heat. Not many replies ago you had 65c in there. That just can't happen. I think once you get that issue under control you'll see a lot less problems. Luckily your next grow will be in the fall winter months. Much easier to manage the heat during that time.
I agree with Mocha...straight ph'd water for a minute. That MC must be some powerful nutrient. I see folks fry plants on here now and then. Always best to start slow....but you know that already.
First grows are frustrating at times but you'll get through it. So what if you don't get much or fail now and then. It gets better. I got faith in you.
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She got one feeding today at 9AM and an hour later i just gave it tap water. Ya, i am not to sure how its going to play out during winter. Their deffinitly easier to handel during seedling or veggative stage. ya, the 65c was a bad one. However, it was still in a way better shape then what it is currently. The problem with the low temps is the RH. It goes upto 55-60%
 
PK1 said:
No, I was wondering about that for when the clones or the seedling will be transplanted to the 5g pots


Ya, I wont lie. I tested few things at a lower rate with AN and MC and it didn't go well. Although i've read places that MC and big bud can be used. Never gotten to that point to trying.


She got one feeding today at 9AM and an hour later i just gave it tap water. Ya, i am not to sure how its going to play out during winter. Their deffinitly easier to handel during seedling or veggative stage. ya, the 65c was a bad one. However, it was still in a way better shape then what it is currently. The problem with the low temps is the RH. It goes upto 55-60%
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Always best to start slow....but you know that already.
First grows are frustrating at times but you'll get through it. So what if you don't get much or fail now and then. It gets better. I got faith in you.
PK, Sitting back and observing It feels like you are pushing these plants hard to perform and jump through hoops for you. It feels very sped up, on a very quick turnaround timeline.. I think once you slow down a bit and get a feel for reading the plants you'll be ok...
 
Anthony Suszko said:
Always best to start slow....but you know that already.
First grows are frustrating at times but you'll get through it. So what if you don't get much or fail now and then. It gets better. I got faith in you.
PK, Sitting back and observing It feels like you are pushing these plants hard to perform and jump through hoops for you. It feels like you are rushing it trying to speed everything up on a very quick turnaround timeline.. I think once you slow down a bit and get a feel for reading the plants you'll be ok...
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no im not rushing them, just allot of experimentals. However, There was no experimental done after she went to flower. Just got badluck with heatwave after feeding her to much nutri

I might of screwed my only plant standing with minimal buds, but thats okay cuz i've got 3 clones from her and I've got a GG. I reach my goals in a wierd way. :rofl:
 
The Phantom said:
Na, we only get up to about 120F here, cooler than one would expect. Haha
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yup, deffinitly cooler then some other parts of the country.
 
PK1 said:
no im not rushing them, just allot of experimentals. However, There was no experimental done after she went to flower. Just got badluck with heatwave after feeding her to much nutri

I might of screwed my only plant standing with minimal buds, but thats okay cuz i've got 3 clones from her and I've got a GG. I reach my goals in a wierd way. :rofl:
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It is kind of funny because this is the 2nd batch of brownies you've scorched in the oven.. :rofl:
Just backing off the nutes a bit will solve allot of problems and get you to the finish line..
 
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