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[Truth Seeker]

Yes, soil drench w/ Azamax. Looks like you need more Nitrogen, they look pale to me.

Have you done this before or are you just saying??? I am uping the Grow from 15ml to 30ml. It's not a drastic change, I have been upping it more and more by 5ml each time, 30 is where I noticed the yellowing stopping so I think 35 will help bring the deep green back!!!

When you had the plants out did you see any thing crawling around on the roots?

Whats good HMG!!!
No sir, not a thing moving, I looked real good!!! due to seeing the bugs come out of the holes on the bottom of the pot, so when I was looking at the roots, I looked to see if any bugs were living in there as well? but not a thing!!!



Can anybody else chime in on the Azamax soil drench???

 

[GodSpeed]

Hi Astoner sorry to hear about your problem,

When the leaves on plants wilt its usaly due to lack of water, their stomata(little holes that allow C02/ water vapor/ 02 in/out) close down to prevent transpiration(water evaporation via leaves), which in turn effects photosynthesis. So if your leaves are wilting they aren't going to have maximum photosynthetic potential.

Also over-watering can mirror the problems that underwatering causes, enviroment conditions make sure you have sufficent air flow/exchange and humidity ist to high.

She looks very hungry and as you have said her roots are bound repotting her with a good flush could sort the problem out, let her stretch her feet, Azamax can be a good preventation against Lil critters so dont feel scared to giver her a once through.

 

[GodSpeed]

Getting rid of Root Aphids

Root Aphids require much more attention to detail and are difficult to get rid of. You must be diligent and be prepared for a battle.

The first key is separation. Do not put new plants in with infected ones even if you think the problem is gone. If you have to create a new vegetation area for a while, then do it. In my experience, root aphids can only spread through water contact so new clones in with older plants is a bad idea. Cleanliness is key. Make sure you clean your trays and reservoirs out every week with 35% hydrogen peroxide.
You may see flying insects that resemble gnats

But these are flying aphids which are common with root aphids. These will fly around and get stuck in your flowers and are a pain to pick out when harvesting. Simply use yellow sticky traps to catch these guys. If they get out of hand you can also use a pyrethrum bomb or two.

As far as pesticides go, I tried every trick in the book and nothing worked until I talked with a grower who had success using pyrethrum in the form of a drench or dunk. This is the only thing that works. There is a product called Take Down that most shops carry. However they do not list a drench application so I have one that I have turned tons of growers onto and it works.
The Instructions:

Mix 2 oz. per gallon.
Use a 5 gallon bucket filled with 3 gallons of the mixture.
For soil, just water thoroughly.
For hydro, take your plants and dunk the mediums for about 1 minute each. Then let them sit in the tray. After an hour, flood your tray while top watering from the reservoir to really flush them well.
Finish by changing out your reservoir with brand new nutrients and water.
Do this once a week when you normally change your water.

However,

There is an even easier way but most shops do not carry the product. While talking to some shops in Hawaii, I came across a product called Evergreen. This is an industrial grade pyrethrum. It is 10 times stronger than Take Down. Unlike Take Down it does not have oil in the solution.

You also will use much less (2 ml. per gal.). This allows you to run it throughout the week in your reservoir without oily residue or cost to your pocket. Evergreen is by far the most efficient weapon that I have seen against root aphids and many growers have personally thanked me for the recommendation. However you may have to jump through some hoops to get it. I have heard the guys at S.D. Hydroponics know where to get it. Drop in and ask them.


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[Truth Seeker]

Whats good GS!!!

Well I wish I could agree with one of those to her issue, but like I have mentioned already, I have a personal log that I keep, it tells me when I watered last, fed, raised lights, amount of nutes to the gallon!!! all kinds of things!!! but either way, I wait for her to dry out before any feedings or waterings!!! so I know it's not a watering problem... the watering issue is under control here!!!

 

[Truth Seeker]

I pulled GDP back out of her pot to show all of you her roots, is this a root bound plant or no???

ALSO!!! I have these little bugs that are crawling around in the top layer of my soil!!! are these baby gnats??? or are these the Aphids??? there are none inside the bottom layers, or at least at the bottom where the roots are!!! and there is also no bugs in the plant on the leaves!!!
here is a video of one of them that I seen moving!!!

Indoor MMJ Grow (Bug Issue) - YouTube

there were maybe a total of 6 that I seen and killed!!!

here are the still photos of them!!!

 

[GodSpeed]

Sorry to say brother but that looks like "SOIL MITES" Beware they will spread bad.

Aphids

Soil Mites

Im putting my finger on the later identical. Good luck


Edit: and yes i class that as bound,

ortho max lawn and garden 1/10 strength ... drench and watch them die ..

the plants like it as well ..

 

[HomeMedGrower]

What you see crawling, can you get under a scope to check it out. Root aphids look to be more beetle looking than a fungus gnat.

I think if you have bumped up the amount of grow nutes by double and not seeing any improvments, along with the overall look of your plant I would say something is hindering it. I know these little bugs will suck the nutrients out of your plant and that appears to be what is happening.

Water and get a good amount of run off and search it really well. I believe you would see root aphids in the run off if they are present.

I could be wrong and hope I am. I just want to see you get through this and have a good harvest.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Sorry to say brother but that looks like "SOIL MITES" Beware they will spread bad.

Aphids

Soil Mites

Im putting my finger on the later identical. Good luck


Edit: and yes i class that as bound,

ortho max lawn and garden 1/10 strength ... drench and watch them die ..

the plants like it as well ..

my brotha!!!
Thanks for the chime in!!! that is exactly what I seen up close and personal!!! those SOB's!!! well as of last night, I couldn't bare the thought of them being in there any longer, so I went ahead and did the Azamax soil drench!!! today I opened up the tubs and there is nothing moving!!! AT ALL!!! I moved the soil around and sat there with it for about a cool 10 minutes to see if anything was going to move!!! NOTHING!!! Ortho max huh??? is that like the Azamax??? or should I get some of that on hand for a "just in case" scenario???

What you see crawling, can you get under a scope to check it out. Root aphids look to be more beetle looking than a fungus gnat.

I think if you have bumped up the amount of grow nutes by double and not seeing any improvments, along with the overall look of your plant I would say something is hindering it. I know these little bugs will suck the nutrients out of your plant and that appears to be what is happening.

Water and get a good amount of run off and search it really well. I believe you would see root aphids in the run off if they are present.

I could be wrong and hope I am. I just want to see you get through this and have a good harvest.

The runoff happens all the time!!! every time I water, every time I feed, I make sure that I have at least 10% run off!!! I put my pot into a drip pan and water then when I see the pool of water below, I empty and allow the rest of the run off out!!! this way I know the bottom is being watered as well as the top!!!

 

[GodSpeed]

I'm not sure if it is the same but it's just somthing that my x growing partner swore by infact he said the plants love it. Good eye for catching them early they can get out of controll fast, some are helpfull and eat fungus larva, dead roots and rotting medium but taking a chance to see if they help is risky you did the right thing!

 

[Truth Seeker]

thank you for your input GS!!!

 

[Smoke2Js]

Hey Stoner, I am glad I stopped by to check on things. I am constantly learning , soil mites. ouch, how are they lookin now? Bravo on being on top of it!

 

[kamykazi3]

wow soil mites ! :O good luck fighting them ! thats gona be a hard battle :S

 

[Truth Seeker]

Hey Stoner, I am glad I stopped by to check on things. I am constantly learning , soil mites. ouch, how are they lookin now? Bravo on being on top of it!

wow soil mites ! :O good luck fighting them ! thats gona be a hard battle :S

They dead!!! LOL I went in and stirred the soil around to see if they were hiding like they were yesterday, and NOPE!!! hehehhe gotta love that Azamax soil drench solution!!!

 

[kamykazi3]

exelent !!!!!! goood job protecting your babies !

 

[QueenTokelove]

What caused you to get the mites?

 

[Truth Seeker]

im not sure, it could be when I put them near the window for the REAL sunlight for a few hours of the day, I have the window open during that time, I didn't think I would get any bugs like that, but I guess thats what I get for thinking!!! LOL

I need to go outside and spray my yard with pesticides, I only did it in April cus I had the Afgoo's out there, and I never had bugs in my babies!!! and they were outdoor plants!!!

 

[Truth Seeker]

lights on 20 minutes ago, and I sat there again, and still nothing!!! YAY!!! gotta love that Azamax, not the price though!!!

 

[QueenTokelove]

lights on 20 minutes ago, and I sat there again, and still nothing!!! YAY!!! gotta love that Azamax, not the price though!!!

Yeah, I was checking that stuff out on a supply site, it is pretty pricey but I am sure worth it in the end. May get some in the future should I get fungus gnats again...so far I haven't seen any.

 

[Truth Seeker]

yea I originally bought it for the Afgoo's, they had gotten a small case of SM!! I hate those little critters!!!

 

[Truth Seeker]

GUESS WHAT!!! GDP had something to show me today!!!

HEHE!!!