Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
What nutes are you using with the perlite/coco, and what percentage perlite/coco?
thanks!
What nutes are you using with the perlite/coco, and what percentage perlite/coco?
thanks!
MK-Ultra Hempy - C02 - 1000 Watts
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
bro, your plants are looking amazing!
you're the one who's gonna need a wheelbarrow in a few weeks, lol
hey, I have a wheelbarrow
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bro, your plants are looking amazing!
you're the one who's gonna need a wheelbarrow in a few weeks, lol
hey, I have a wheelbarrow
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Do you really lol?
bro, your plants are looking amazing!
you're the one who's gonna need a wheelbarrow in a few weeks, lol
hey, I have a wheelbarrow
Do you really lol?
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
Day 36 Flower:
I had to leave my plants for 3 days and nights, due to some preplanned out-of-town travel. One of the last things I did before driving away was a thorough watering of all the plants.
The Casey Jones are now exploding with buds:
Below are some shots of the MK-Ultra. I'm starting to get some browning of fan leaf margins, and some yellowing of larger fan leaves. Buds are swelling up nicely.
A good shot of the yellowing fan leaves.
Barring other factors, assuming a reasonable amount of new growth between now and 4 weeks from now, I should harvest over 3 oz per plant....safe estimate.
I'm not happy with the ugly leaves....I've been feeding light and they're slowly getting worse, so I'm going to up the feeding next time. I am confident that it's not a nute burn situation....and if there is any kind of lockout, I've flushed it away.
Day 36 Flower:
I had to leave my plants for 3 days and nights, due to some preplanned out-of-town travel. One of the last things I did before driving away was a thorough watering of all the plants.
The Casey Jones are now exploding with buds:
Below are some shots of the MK-Ultra. I'm starting to get some browning of fan leaf margins, and some yellowing of larger fan leaves. Buds are swelling up nicely.
A good shot of the yellowing fan leaves.
Barring other factors, assuming a reasonable amount of new growth between now and 4 weeks from now, I should harvest over 3 oz per plant....safe estimate.
I'm not happy with the ugly leaves....I've been feeding light and they're slowly getting worse, so I'm going to up the feeding next time. I am confident that it's not a nute burn situation....and if there is any kind of lockout, I've flushed it away.
CT.Greenskunk
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
thank you gentlemen! I intend to fatten these girls up and lie to them about finding a mate all the way to the end.
Yup those big ass trees are comin along great DocBud
keep rockin!
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thank you gentlemen! I intend to fatten these girls up and lie to them about finding a mate all the way to the end.
slosmokin
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AHAHHA, I too lie to my sweet girls.
Those are some serious tower sized colas, you are going to need some strong string to tie those girls up. Looking good man.
Check out my new grow if you get a chance, links on my signature.
AHAHHA, I too lie to my sweet girls.
Those are some serious tower sized colas, you are going to need some strong string to tie those girls up. Looking good man.
Check out my new grow if you get a chance, links on my signature.
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
I've been following your new journal.....I don't miss a thing!
Interestingly, I don't think I'll need strings. I've staked up the tallest one to keep it from leaning, but the stems are so thick and healthy on these plants I don't think they'll need any additional help. If they do, I'm ready to tie 'em up, but I don't think they'll need it.
I've been following your new journal.....I don't miss a thing!
Interestingly, I don't think I'll need strings. I've staked up the tallest one to keep it from leaning, but the stems are so thick and healthy on these plants I don't think they'll need any additional help. If they do, I'm ready to tie 'em up, but I don't think they'll need it.
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
Amazing bud towers, and still plenty of time left.
I don't recall anything about the nuclear power plant springing a leak, lol.
Amazing bud towers, and still plenty of time left.
I don't recall anything about the nuclear power plant springing a leak, lol.
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
I've just got to keep 'em healthy!
I believe that I will try another brand of nutrients on my next grow. I had trouble with leaves on the last grow, and I'm also having the same trouble on this grow. I want something that will keep the leaves reasonably green right till the end.
Interestingly, the little clone in the FFOF soil with the Osmocote has the most crystals and pefectly green and healthy leaves.
I may grow with inexpensive, time released nutes on my next grow, and supplement with a bloom food as needed.
I've just got to keep 'em healthy!
I believe that I will try another brand of nutrients on my next grow. I had trouble with leaves on the last grow, and I'm also having the same trouble on this grow. I want something that will keep the leaves reasonably green right till the end.
Interestingly, the little clone in the FFOF soil with the Osmocote has the most crystals and pefectly green and healthy leaves.
I may grow with inexpensive, time released nutes on my next grow, and supplement with a bloom food as needed.
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
Some yellowing and ugliness is pretty normal in mid-late bloom as the plant starts winding down it's life-cycle.
Do you think it's more than just that?
Some yellowing and ugliness is pretty normal in mid-late bloom as the plant starts winding down it's life-cycle.
Do you think it's more than just that?
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
Yes and no.
I do know it's common for yellowing and such in mid to late bloom.......however, is it common because that's how this plant grows, or is it common because that's how we feed them?
I've been doing a good deal of reading, and I have come to the conclusion that hobby MJ growers have been sold a bill of goods when it comes to nutes, mainly that nutes cause buds and better nutes result in bigger buds.
I disagree. I think that nutes, when used properly, cause healthy roots and leaves, and the roots and leaves are what produce the nice fat buds.
In other words, keep the nitrogen levels a bit higher and avoid the really high PK spikes and such.
I'm going to try to green these ladies up a bit....I've got roughly 2-3 weeks of feeding and 1-2 weeks of flushing before I harvest.
I'm still undecided about how to approach things on the next grow, but I'm leaning towards time released nutes with supplements during stretch and in late flower. It makes watering easy...you can't burn 'em....can't lock 'em out.
Yes and no.
I do know it's common for yellowing and such in mid to late bloom.......however, is it common because that's how this plant grows, or is it common because that's how we feed them?
I've been doing a good deal of reading, and I have come to the conclusion that hobby MJ growers have been sold a bill of goods when it comes to nutes, mainly that nutes cause buds and better nutes result in bigger buds.
I disagree. I think that nutes, when used properly, cause healthy roots and leaves, and the roots and leaves are what produce the nice fat buds.
In other words, keep the nitrogen levels a bit higher and avoid the really high PK spikes and such.
I'm going to try to green these ladies up a bit....I've got roughly 2-3 weeks of feeding and 1-2 weeks of flushing before I harvest.
I'm still undecided about how to approach things on the next grow, but I'm leaning towards time released nutes with supplements during stretch and in late flower. It makes watering easy...you can't burn 'em....can't lock 'em out.
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
I just gave my ladies a shot of nitrogen with the FF Grow Big to help carry them through bloom.
Too much can slow down bloom apparently, so that's the balance that needs to be achieved.
Enough N to keep them green and healthy, but not too much.
Personally bro, if I had colas that looked like yours, I wouldn't worry too much about how the leaves are doing unless they're all falling off or something like that.
I don't think a plant can grow colas like that unless it's pretty healthy, but I love the way you experiment and try different things with each grow.
That's how we refine our game.
rock on doc!
I just gave my ladies a shot of nitrogen with the FF Grow Big to help carry them through bloom.
Too much can slow down bloom apparently, so that's the balance that needs to be achieved.
Enough N to keep them green and healthy, but not too much.
Personally bro, if I had colas that looked like yours, I wouldn't worry too much about how the leaves are doing unless they're all falling off or something like that.
I don't think a plant can grow colas like that unless it's pretty healthy, but I love the way you experiment and try different things with each grow.
That's how we refine our game.
rock on doc!
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
I'm glad you are looking into this Doc - simpler is often better.
Remember that perfectly healthy looking plants may not be the best for smoking. Yellow leaves are common because many growers are attempting to push their plants to produce a larger quantity of bigger and more potent flowers. A comparison grow with two different nutrient regimes where there are nice green fan leaves on one side and yellow leaves on the other would be interesting.
While we are on the subject I want to make a couple of comments to provoke some thought. I have often heard hydroponics growers claim that the individual nutrients in solution get used at different rates so you cannot just top-off your reservoir with fresh nutrients because the plants have removed unknown and, potentially, differing amounts of each nutrient. Intuitively that seems incorrect to me. I assume the plants simply pull the various nutrients in through their roots in the same proportions that they are found in the solution. Note that this is for non-organic nutrients only - I think different delivery mechanisms are at play with organics. I do not know a lot about this subject so feel free to correct any misunderstandings I may have here.
I'm glad you are looking into this Doc - simpler is often better.
Remember that perfectly healthy looking plants may not be the best for smoking. Yellow leaves are common because many growers are attempting to push their plants to produce a larger quantity of bigger and more potent flowers. A comparison grow with two different nutrient regimes where there are nice green fan leaves on one side and yellow leaves on the other would be interesting.
While we are on the subject I want to make a couple of comments to provoke some thought. I have often heard hydroponics growers claim that the individual nutrients in solution get used at different rates so you cannot just top-off your reservoir with fresh nutrients because the plants have removed unknown and, potentially, differing amounts of each nutrient. Intuitively that seems incorrect to me. I assume the plants simply pull the various nutrients in through their roots in the same proportions that they are found in the solution. Note that this is for non-organic nutrients only - I think different delivery mechanisms are at play with organics. I do not know a lot about this subject so feel free to correct any misunderstandings I may have here.
MountainHigh
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
The nute schedules I seen and am following dc grow nutes after 4th week but I use a foliar additive (2,4,2) for the next two weeks and I have no yellowing on Lilbit at day 40, she got her last nutes 2 days ago. She should coast all the way through to the end with how green she is.
This is a rant I put in my journal, what do you think about my conclusions?
The nute schedules I seen and am following dc grow nutes after 4th week but I use a foliar additive (2,4,2) for the next two weeks and I have no yellowing on Lilbit at day 40, she got her last nutes 2 days ago. She should coast all the way through to the end with how green she is.
This is a rant I put in my journal, what do you think about my conclusions?
Here is my thoughts, the plant sugars that make plant expansion available within the plant come from photosynthesis. That happens in the leaves. If you remove the fan leaves, any energy the plant stored in those leaves and even if a tiny amount of light hits those leaves they stay green or have on Lilbit then they will make even a tiny bit more plant sugars. If your plant has an abundance of plant sugars, it makes more foliage, more buds, more roots....win win...removing the fan leaves removes an important amount of those sugars, watering down your plants overall potential within the sap of the plant.
Ok here comes my craziness, I sit and reason stuff out so it makes sense to me, it may or may not have any basis in truth, but it makes sense to me.
Ok, healthy plants have high pressure within their stocks, this pressure holds their fans and sugar leaves upward because that is the direction they grow naturally in the plant structure, everything is angled upward from the stalk. Imagine an air pump increasing the pressure within the stock of the plant from below, low pressure (droopy leaves) shows general inability of the root system to support the foliage (low power pump).
Ok here comes the synergy, dump tons of light on healthy happy fan leaves, they do their photosynthesis magic and dump their manufactured sugars into the plants vascular system and intake more nutrients and water to continue working. This plant sugar "sweetens" the sap, lots of sugars available allow the root system to expand increasing the plants ability to uptake more nutes and water and generate pressure in the stalk. The roots have to have good uptake, so salt build-ups are a no-no, excess nutes are a no-no (don't clog the uptake), bad ph is BAD, as long as you have available what the plant needs more is less, lowering the ability of the plant to make the needed pressure lowers production and if you see where trichomes form on leaves, it is as if this structure is ballooned out of the surface of the leaf by pressure from within (at back edges where the vascular pressure would be highest)...I conjecture that is exactly what is happening and keeping high sap pressure (leaves pointed up and happy) will increase your resin production and harden your buds with sap instead of making fluffy bud.
This process involves different things for different systems but is basically healthy leaves and roots = healthy vibrant producing plant.
Tuck the fans, if you play just a bit, you can learn to weave the leaves tips together below the buds and they can't pull apart for some reason, the constant upward pressure from the sap in the stock making the leaves hold onto each other and they are rough leaves so they stay together.
Wow ramble city...To be honest I have no idea if that is the mechanism, but makes sense to me from what I have seen in my grow an other grows with the healthiest looking plants.
If I made any botanist's chuckle then it is a good day..
brother.
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
Thanks brutha growa! I shall rock on!
The leaves aren't falling off.....I've got plenty of leaves. However, one of my plants has always been denser and thicker than the others.....massive amounts of large leaves. It also has a cola that looks like it should be on a mature plant at 50 days of bloom....except mine is all white hairs, no red and it's still growing and swelling.
The other plants, while doing well, aren't as healthy in the leaf department as the one mentioned above. So.....keep 'em green and leafy and they produce better buds.
Green and healthy....that's the key. Healthy leaves and healthy roots make the best buds.
I'm looking at products like Nutricote and Dynamite.
Too much N is bad.....but so is too little.
Thanks brutha growa! I shall rock on!
The leaves aren't falling off.....I've got plenty of leaves. However, one of my plants has always been denser and thicker than the others.....massive amounts of large leaves. It also has a cola that looks like it should be on a mature plant at 50 days of bloom....except mine is all white hairs, no red and it's still growing and swelling.
The other plants, while doing well, aren't as healthy in the leaf department as the one mentioned above. So.....keep 'em green and leafy and they produce better buds.
Green and healthy....that's the key. Healthy leaves and healthy roots make the best buds.
I'm looking at products like Nutricote and Dynamite.
Too much N is bad.....but so is too little.
LiveTour
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
Oh Yeah Doc looking good! I like the MK, it's wicked tall eh!
Oh Yeah Doc looking good! I like the MK, it's wicked tall eh!
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
I like it. A lot.
The nute schedules I seen and am following dc grow nutes after 4th week but I use a foliar additive (2,4,2) for the next two weeks and I have no yellowing on Lilbit at day 40, she got her last nutes 2 days ago. She should coast all the way through to the end with how green she is.
This is a rant I put in my journal, what do you think about my conclusions?
I like it. A lot.
Sonzor
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.
Lots, and lots of buds going on there, the plants must like something your doing. Keep up the good work....
Lots, and lots of buds going on there, the plants must like something your doing. Keep up the good work....