MK-Ultra Hempy - C02 - 1000 Watts

Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

DocBud said:
Thanks! How's that Blue Dream smoking?

I love it!! Only thing is, I can't really smoke it on work nights. It gets me all fired up, but I had monday off and I was able to dedicate about 10 hours towards my room thanks to BD. It's defiantly a clear headed motivated high.
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

onthe420train said:
so the defining features of hempy are perlite and hand watering? suppose that makes sense.. :thumb:
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That's how I do it....but it need not be perlite.

I'd say the defining feature of Hempy is a bucket with a hole drill in the side. Perlite just works real well as a medium...but so do other things.
 
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Doc, do you use vermiculite? It seems to me that unless you water like Setting Sun it would just wash most of it to the bottom of the bucket. :peace:
 
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420warrior said:
Doc, do you use vermiculite? It seems to me that unless you water like Setting Sun it would just wash most of it to the bottom of the bucket. :peace:
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I have two that are pure perlite, and 3 that are 4:1 p/v. The pure perlite ones are my biggest, fattest plants.

As far as water goes, you want it to wash to the bottom of the bucket. Perlite wicks water very well, but that internal reservoir is where all the magic happens....that's the shallow water culture aspect of passive hydro.

On every forum, for some reason, people who are interested in the hempy bucket always have the tendency to "fix" it or tweak it. I'm the same way!

But after reading so much about them, I realized that I should just try it, as advertised.

It works! Damn well too. :rasta:

If you want to grow a small number of plants the easiest, cheapest and fastest way, use a hempy bucket.

It's not the best way to grow.....but it's the easiest, cheapest, fastest way to grow, and they yield well!

IMO, anything more than 10 plants needs a person with no job and lots of time.....or another method.

Bato buckets are in my future, when I ramp up my growing.
 
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I guess I wasn't very clear, it seems like the vermiculite would get washed to the bottom of the bucket. It's not very critical but I would think you want the more coarse medium in the res area so there would be more volume of water. Maybe even the bottom couple inches could have hydroton or something.:peace:
 
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generally using hydroton at the bottom of your pots isn't a great idea. I tried it, it was a mistake.

once the plant was like this
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the center there would hold too much water. because of the hydroton drainage wasn't good enough. conditions for rot.
 
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That's good to know. I don't know much about hydroton, just thought the coarseness would allow for more water in the bottom. I guess why mess with something that works so well.:peace:
 
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Docbud, whoa first off excuse my lateness into your thread. Wowwz that's a really long cola. Honestly Im very sure thats the longest cola ive ever seen... wowww..... After seeing that, I'm very very very much ready to do Hempy. I'm soo serious. I've already got some super coarse hydrofarm perlite, ill just order some hydroton. It'll even cost less than picking up some more FF. I must admit I saw hempy but I for some dumb reason was still sketchy. Errrm :oops:

Whoa. You're growin skyscrapers over there :yummy::cheertwo:

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420warrior said:
That's good to know. I don't know much about hydroton, just thought the coarseness would allow for more water in the bottom. I guess why mess with something that works so well.:peace:
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It works...why change it?
Well, why not change it? Growing is fun...so can try all kinds of methods. :grinjoint:



DroJo said:
Docbud, whoa first off excuse my lateness into your thread. Wowwz that's a really long cola. Honestly Im very sure thats the longest cola ive ever seen... wowww..... After seeing that, I'm very very very much ready to do Hempy. I'm soo serious. I've already got some super coarse hydrofarm perlite, ill just order some hydroton. It'll even cost less than picking up some more FF. I must admit I saw hempy but I for some dumb reason was still sketchy. Errrm :oops:

Whoa. You're growin skyscrapers over there :yummy::cheertwo:

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Hey Dro! Thanks for stopping by:
Day 32 of Flower:

Pics of all tops except the 2 Casey Jones.

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The Super Lemon Haze clone.....it's tiny, but frosty. Time released Ozmocote nutes, tap water. No Ph testing.
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Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

420warrior said:
That's good to know. I don't know much about hydroton, just thought the coarseness would allow for more water in the bottom. I guess why mess with something that works so well.:peace:
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Yep, Hydroton at the bottom would probably allow too much standing water because of all the space between the pebbles, that's why I would start with a 2" layer of Perlite at the bottom, and then alternate 2" layers of Perlite and Hydroton all the way to the top.

The Hempy hole is drilled about 2" up from the bottom, so the "res" would be mostly Perlite to prevent root rot issues.

The Hydroton layers will help retain more water, provide more oxygen, help secure and support the roots (thanks for adding that benefit doc), and may also help prevent the sketchiness with seedlings until the roots hit the res.

I see many possible benefits to messing with the original Hempy "recipe" by adding Hydroton, and since I don't trust the PH stability of vermiculite, I need something to replace it's water-retaining abilities. I think the Hydroton will do that and more.

To me, the essence of the Hempy is the bucket and hole. The medium can be lots of things.

I've seen some beasts grown in Hempy buckets with pure coco too, so I may be tryng that also.

Hygromite, or silica stone, is another medium that would probably rock in Hempys.

Lava rock would be another Hempy medium candidate.

Every grow is a chance to further refine and improve the method by seeing what works best and what doesn't.
 
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I been researching other mediums too,

TURFACE - or calcined clay is a clay product fired at approx. 1200 degrees and is then ground and screened to remove the small particles. This process expands the clay and forms small air pockets inside (much like lava rock. Turface also holds moisture without saturating the roots and breaks down very slowly so it is good for a couple of years between pottings). This is the best additive for helping aerate your soil and promoting moisture and good root development.
Any thoughts? For use instead of vermiculite maybe?
 
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The Weed said:
I been researching other mediums too,

TURFACE - or calcined clay is a clay product fired at approx. 1200 degrees and is then ground and screened to remove the small particles. This process expands the clay and forms small air pockets inside (much like lava rock. Turface also holds moisture without saturating the roots and breaks down very slowly so it is good for a couple of years between pottings). This is the best additive for helping aerate your soil and promoting moisture and good root development.
Any thoughts? For use instead of vermiculite maybe?
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I'm sure it would work. Perlite works too.....very well in fact.

Why is everyone down on vermiculite?
 
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Setting Sun said:
Yep, Hydroton at the bottom would probably allow too much standing water because of all the space between the pebbles, that's why I would start with a 2" layer of Perlite at the bottom, and then alternate 2" layers of Perlite and Hydroton all the way to the top.

The Hempy hole is drilled about 2" up from the bottom, so the "res" would be mostly Perlite to prevent root rot issues.

The Hydroton layers will help retain more water, provide more oxygen, help secure and support the roots (thanks for adding that benefit doc), and may also help prevent the sketchiness with seedlings until the roots hit the res.

I see many possible benefits to messing with the original Hempy "recipe" by adding Hydroton, and since I don't trust the PH stability of vermiculite, I need something to replace it's water-retaining abilities. I think the Hydroton will do that and more.

To me, the essence of the Hempy is the bucket and hole. The medium can be lots of things.

I've seen some beasts grown in Hempy buckets with pure coco too, so I may be tryng that also.

Hygromite, or silica stone, is another medium that would probably rock in Hempys.

Lava rock would be another Hempy medium candidate.

Every grow is a chance to further refine and improve the method by seeing what works best and what doesn't.
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Wow you guys have my brain working in Overtime :idea: I'm thinking a hempy with coco & hydroton and watering with the bucket and pump like doc does...

hmmmmm. so many ideas so lil time :smokin2:

those colas are fatennin up doc :bravo::welldone:
 
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Man looking good as always Doc....my experience with vermiculite is...it is too small and washes to bottom of pot throwing off PH and causes deficiencies ....I switched to perlite and hydroton rocks a few grows ago...and stopped using vermiculite. I had great run with passive hydro....still have 3 or 4 plants growing in that medium. And i think i still have one set up hempy style with hole 2" up from bottom of pot. Reason i switched was can't buy hydroton rocks locally also broke my ph meter. So went with Pro-mix. But would recommend this style of growing to anyone wanting to switch to hydro....It is a great first step :thumb:
 
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Tunes420 said:
Man looking good as always Doc....my experience with vermiculite is...it is too small and washes to bottom of pot throwing off PH and causes deficiencies ....I switched to perlite and hydroton rocks a few grows ago...and stopped using vermiculite. I had great run with passive hydro....still have 3 or 4 plants growing in that medium. And i think i still have one set up hempy style with hole 2" up from bottom of pot. Reason i switched was can't buy hydroton rocks locally also broke my ph meter. So went with Pro-mix. But would recommend this style of growing to anyone wanting to switch to hydro....It is a great first step :thumb:
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Interesting what you say about it washing to the bottom and causing deficiencies. Does it raise or lower PH?

The only plant I have with a deficiency is in pure perlite.....the vermi one's are doing grand....for now.

I agree it's a great first step...it was my first step!
But I see no problem maintaining the hempy style for years and years....it works as well as anything else out there, except for expert use of NFT or Ebb n Grow, both of which are more technical and use more nutes and water....thus being more expensive, not to mention problematic when the power goes out.
 
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My concern with vermiculite is that it behaves much like asbestos when it becomes airborne. It hooks into lung material and cannot easily be removed.

I'm using perlite and Canna coco. If you use coco you either have to pre-treat it very well or buy Canna which is already treated.
 
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You have yourself some beautiful plant, great looking buds forming. All around great job....
 
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