MK-Ultra Hempy - C02 - 1000 Watts

Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

At first glance Doc, those leaves on the MK are indicative of a K issue.

Ima read back and see if I can determine the turning point and the solution...

Thanks, bro! Good to hear from you.

Everything cool doc?

Yes, everything is fine. I've been away for a few days, I'm back....all is well with the garden.
Interestingly, by far, the healthiest plant I have is the clone, which I have abused and used only un-PH'd tap water and time released nutes. Every leaf on it is perfect. It has a lovely shade of green, and it's loaded with crystals.
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The Casey Jones are doing GREAT! These are in Coco/perlite. They should be large yielders.
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Casey Jones on the left
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And, the main attraction, at day 43 of Flower. MK-Ultra is supposed to go 8-9 weeks which is 2-3 weeks from now.
The plant below is short and squat, while the others are tall and lanky. I question if it's even the same strain....don't buy seeds from Dr. Chronic. I paid for Femmed seeds, but got 3 males.
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I've some yellowing leaves and some signs of K deficiency, but the buds are going full steam ahead. I'm feeding as follows:
per gallon
2tsp grow FF
8ml hygrozyme
8ml CalMag (I only use 3ml when I use tap water, but I used RO for last 2 waterings.)
Sweet 8ml
Hammerhead 0-9-18 1tsp

I've stopped the tiger bloom and big bloom. The latter is fine, but I suspect the tiger bloom is the problem. Since stopping it, I've had noticeablely less yellowing and rattiness.

All things considered, I think I'm going to get about 3oz per plant on the MK....and even more on the Casey Jones. The latter were topped to make 4 main cola's and were vegged for 5 weeks, while the MK were not topped and were vegged for 1 week.
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

Looking good Doc, nice big colas. You give them grow nutes when flowering? Do you use regular bloom nutes at all? :peace:
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

Looking good Doc, nice big colas. You give them grow nutes when flowering? Do you use regular bloom nutes at all? :peace:

The Hammerhead can be considered a "bloom" nute. It is merely K and P.
The whole notion of grow and bloom nutes is a little muddy. Basically, as long as you don't burn them and give them what they need it doesn't matter whether the bottle says, "grow" or "bloom."

My little experiment with the clone in soil, using time released INEXPENSIVE nutes and straight tap water is interesting. I'm using Osmocote 14/14/14.

That plant is the healthiest thing I've ever grown. It has better smell and more crystals than the great big giants. And it takes me about 5 minutes a week to care for it.

On my next grow, I'm going to do at least one plant with time released nutes, just to see how they work. If they work really well, I'll make the switch and save tons of time and money.
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

Glad everything's OK, and can't wait to see your osmocote plant on your next grow.

Do you do any routine mini or thorough flushes with your Hempy buckets through the grow?

I just make sure there's a liberal amount of runoff each time I water. About 20-25%. If I mix up 5 gallons, I expect about a gallon of runoff.

I'm looking forward to examining the roots of these plants.
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

Cool, thanks.

Speaking of watering, did you get that pump and wand from Dan?

I gotta get me a setup like that.

You sample any nugs yet? ;)

plants are looking good!

You gonna mix the Osmocote into the perlite in a Hempy, or grow that plant in soil?
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

Cool, thanks.

Speaking of watering, did you get that pump and wand from Dan?

I gotta get me a setup like that.

You sample any nugs yet? ;)

plants are looking good!

You gonna mix the Osmocote into the perlite in a Hempy, or grow that plant in soil?
I got the pump and hose from Dan.
I got the wand from Farm Supply
No samples.....I've got too many samples on hand as it is. :rollit:

RE the Osmocote etc.
I'll probably use Dynamite instead of Osmocote, because Dynamite has all the micro's in it as well. I'm tempted to grow it in soil....but I honestly think these things grow better in hempy's than in soil. I may throw a soil one in the mix just to see.

I'm toying with the idea of starting 23 Santa Maria on 12/12 in 1.5 gallon pots in a soil/perlite mix, using Dynamite.

Everyone I talk to is unanimous that they grow better in perlite....but as you can see from my grows, it's easy to make mistakes, have burns, deficiencies, etc. Of course, it's nothing a little more practice can't improve....but the time released nutes are stoner proof.

There is the issue of flushing.

Here's my idea on how to solve that:

Put the time released nutes in little bags made from panty hose with a string attached. When it's time to flush, just pull 'em out by the string. This would work in perlite....but not too well in soil.

I dunno, it's a thought.

But I sure do like the idea of low maintence growing.
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

It would work unless the little nute balls need to be evenly distributed in the medium to be absorbed at the proper rate.

I think having them all together would create a "hot spot" in your pot, but who knows.

It's fun to run experiments anyway.

I saw some Dynamite the other day and bought it because you had mentioned it was a complete nute package before and I remembered.

I'm really curious about 12/12 grows also, especially with taller strains that are hard to control indoors.

Twenty or so 1/2-1oz spears of sativa would be pretty cool if they stay short enough.

Looks like a fast and efficient way to grow.

thanks for the info bro ;)
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

It would work unless the little nute balls need to be evenly distributed in the medium to be absorbed at the proper rate.

I think having them all together would create a "hot spot" in your pot, but who knows.

It's fun to run experiments anyway.

I saw some Dynamite the other day and bought it because you had mentioned it was a complete nute package before and I remembered.

I'm really curious about 12/12 grows also, especially with taller strains that are hard to control indoors.

Twenty or so 1/2-1oz spears of sativa would be pretty cool if they stay short enough.

Looks like a fast and efficient way to grow.

thanks for the info bro ;)

If gram/watt is the ratio you want to maximize, I don't think you can beat a 12/12 SOG.
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

What other ratios are there?

I've pretty much gotten over my infatuation with giant colas.

They make for nice eye candy, but scales aren't calibrated for pretty.

A pic of a good SOG or SCROG does just as much for me these days, probably more.
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

I read somewhere about some one flushing by chopping their plants and putting them in a bucket of water for a couple days. I believe they used an airstone also. They claimed this way you flush the plant and not the soil and everything. Do you think something like that or pulling plant out of the medium and into water would work? Or maybe it would cause too much stress and be detrimental? :peace:
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

I read somewhere about some one flushing by chopping their plants and putting them in a bucket of water for a couple days. I believe they used an airstone also. They claimed this way you flush the plant and not the soil and everything. Do you think something like that or pulling plant out of the medium and into water would work? Or maybe it would cause too much stress and be detrimental? :peace:

I don't think that would work too well.....but that is based on nothing other than opinion.

Flushing is a controversial topic. There are some very well respected growers who don't subscribe to it. The people I know say flushing is very important, however.

There is much to know....and I know so little. Ask me in a year!
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

Could those time release nutrients sit in the reservoir soaking or would that pull out the nutes too fast?
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

Hi doc,

you mentioned flushing as a problem with the time-release nutes. Is it that too much nutes would get flushed?

The way these time released ferts work is that they're in a semipermeable ball, that releases the nutes at a controlled, constant rate.

No matter how much you flush, you'll still have the same level of nutrients in the container. In other words, you could flush perlite to where the PPM is really, really low. But you couldn't do that with Osmocote, because nutes would remain constant.

They last about 3 months....so If you vegged for a while and your grow lasted 3 months and 2 weeks.....you could flush.
 
Re: MK-Ultra Hempy, C02, 1000watts.

OK, gotcha.

maybe pre-soaking them for a couple of weeks before mixing with the medium would help things wind down a bit faster if necessary?

That's a very good idea. The product was designed in Japan to be used in rice paddies. Soaking them for a while might work very well. The only reason to do so would be for flushing purposes.

I simply don't have enough experience to know how important flushing is on taste. There are arguments on several sides of the issue.

Vegetables aren't flushed, neither is rice or fruit. Of course, commercial growers of vegetables don't force feed their crops with excess salts in an attempt to get the largest vegetables in the world......
 
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