Magnus8's Coco Coir Big Bud & Pineapple Express, First Grow Ever! Grow Journal

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

That's awesome! My purple kush in particular was like that too, it almost seemed to shift into high gear as soon as it was topped.
I am interested to see how your cloning experiment goes as it is something I am considering eventually too, not sure if it is worth the hassle but then again seeds are kinda pricey and being able to preserve an excellent performers genes is appealing.... Have yourself a fine day Magnus8!
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

That's awesome! My purple kush in particular was like that too, it almost seemed to shift into high gear as soon as it was topped.
I am interested to see how your cloning experiment goes as it is something I am considering eventually too, not sure if it is worth the hassle but then again seeds are kinda pricey and being able to preserve an excellent performers genes is appealing.... Have yourself a fine day Magnus8!
Take the time to research cloning, and it can and will be extremely rewarding

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hey PE636,

First of all, I really believe in cloning. I've read, over and over again, that the best time to take clones is about 3 weeks before you flip them into flower mode. That is when you do your major trim as far as i understand it, and a lot that you trim off can be used as clones.

You can also take clones about 3 weeks AFTER you flip them into flower. This is when I plan to take most of my clones, since clones taken during this time will produce plants that are very bushy with lots and lots of spare colas. The problem with taking clones during this period is that it is hard to flip them back into veg mode, since they are already in flower. You have to choose clones that already have at least one bud on them, and trim off any other buds but leave the one at the apex of the clone. Then you put them into veg lighting and within a bit of time, they will turn back to veg mode and begin to grow all sorts of bushy arms and legs. I think the one bud on top falls off, too, if i'm not mistaken.

I really don't know if my little aberrant clones will survive. they are extremely tiny, with very little "stem" to root from. but no one ever said, as far as i know, that they need to have a lot of stem, just a lot of roots. but most clones i've seen in pics have been taken from long stems so that they are already several inches tall when stuck into the growing pods (i'm not sure what to call Rapid Rooters!) Pods? whatever.

My little deamons are VERY small. but beyond that, they haven't died, yet! they are sucking up the water i'm spraying on their leaves like there's a fire under their proverbial asses. there kinda is, actually. i've got them on a heat mat to keep the soil warm (is it even soil in those rapid rooter thingamabobies? idk...)

as for being not worth the hassle... working with seeds is MUCH more hassle, i think. i just cut the tops off the plant, stuck them into cloning gel (i bought a jar when i was buying all my supplies), swirled it around and smeared extra onto it with a skewer stick (you could use a Qtip, too) when i pulled it out, and then stuck it into the rapid rooter thingamabobby (did I spell that right?). then i placed the rapid rooter into the same little plastic "greenhouse" that i had used for my seeds. this seems much less complicated than planting seeds, mind you. i know i explained it in detail so it might seem complicated, but it's really not. and now all i do is spray the clones with water several times a day. you have to spray them with water because they don't have roots yet and the only way they can take in water is through their leaves at this point. Then, when they have roots, you feed plant them into a planter and feed them like they are seedlings for a week, then given them one half nutes, then full nutes after about 2 or 3 weeks.

simple.

really simple.

i hope you try it. right now, i'm not sure i'll take many more clones from these plants cuz i'm not sure they are the strains i want to keep around the house. i've got other strains i think i'd like better for my back and my anxiety.

you, too, have an amazing day! nice to see you again in here!
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Take the time to research cloning, and it can and will be extremely rewarding

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HEY Rideouts!

What's up, man? Nice to see you pop your head up in here!
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hey PE636,

First of all, I really believe in cloning. I've read, over and over again, that the best time to take clones is about 3 weeks before you flip them into flower mode. That is when you do your major trim as far as i understand it, and a lot that you trim off can be used as clones.

You can also take clones about 3 weeks AFTER you flip them into flower. This is when I plan to take most of my clones, since clones taken during this time will produce plants that are very bushy with lots and lots of spare colas. The problem with taking clones during this period is that it is hard to flip them back into veg mode, since they are already in flower. You have to choose clones that already have at least one bud on them, and trim off any other buds but leave the one at the apex of the clone. Then you put them into veg lighting and within a bit of time, they will turn back to veg mode and begin to grow all sorts of bushy arms and legs. I think the one bud on top falls off, too, if i'm not mistaken.

I really don't know if my little aberrant clones will survive. they are extremely tiny, with very little "stem" to root from. but no one ever said, as far as i know, that they need to have a lot of stem, just a lot of roots. but most clones i've seen in pics have been taken from long stems so that they are already several inches tall when stuck into the growing pods (i'm not sure what to call Rapid Rooters!) Pods? whatever.

My little deamons are VERY small. but beyond that, they haven't died, yet! they are sucking up the water i'm spraying on their leaves like there's a fire under their proverbial asses. there kinda is, actually. i've got them on a heat mat to keep the soil warm (is it even soil in those rapid rooter thingamabobies? idk...)

as for being not worth the hassle... working with seeds is MUCH more hassle, i think. i just cut the tops off the plant, stuck them into cloning gel (i bought a jar when i was buying all my supplies), swirled it around and smeared extra onto it with a skewer stick (you could use a Qtip, too) when i pulled it out, and then stuck it into the rapid rooter thingamabobby (did I spell that right?). then i placed the rapid rooter into the same little plastic "greenhouse" that i had used for my seeds. this seems much less complicated than planting seeds, mind you. i know i explained it in detail so it might seem complicated, but it's really not. and now all i do is spray the clones with water several times a day. you have to spray them with water because they don't have roots yet and the only way they can take in water is through their leaves at this point. Then, when they have roots, you feed plant them into a planter and feed them like they are seedlings for a week, then given them one half nutes, then full nutes after about 2 or 3 weeks.

simple.

really simple.

i hope you try it. right now, i'm not sure i'll take many more clones from these plants cuz i'm not sure they are the strains i want to keep around the house. i've got other strains i think i'd like better for my back and my anxiety.

you, too, have an amazing day! nice to see you again in here!
Always worth taking clones. If you choose not to use them so be it find someone to take them or flower them out an be done the said strain. Better then running outa little ladies

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Always worth taking clones. If you choose not to use them so be it find someone to take them or flower them out an be done the said strain. Better then running outa little ladies

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agreed wholeheartedly!
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I've always read that rapid rooters are the best way to go, and that the brand rapid rooter is the best of the best ways to go.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Also If you have $30 to spare, I would buy GH rapid start. It's an amazing product for seedlings/clones - provides "rapid" root development in the early stages and can be used throughout the cycle. The bottle is tiny but you use very very little of this stuff


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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Thanks for that, Kush. But my budget is extremely tight for the next three months with all this other shit I hafta buy, unfortunately.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I used rapidstart on mine, here is the purple kush at 4 weeks from seed.
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30 bucks really? I got a GH performance pack its called with the flora trio and a bunch of other stuff for like 70 dollars I think at the same place I got my tent and light etc.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I used rapidstart on mine, here is the purple kush at 4 weeks from seed.
420-magazine-mobile144203395.jpg

30 bucks really? I got a GH performance pack its called with the flora trio and a bunch of other stuff for like 70 dollars I think at the same place I got my tent and light etc.
Nice

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I was worried about the rootball falling apart when transplanting, what with the loose coco and perlite mix, but it definitely wasn't an issue! Not sure how much of that is credited to the rapidstart but it doesn't appear to hurt!
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Probably a bigger bottle than my kit, it was actually 52.99 CDN plus tax, should be enough for a couple of grows if not three so I figured it was a good deal..
Contains:
16oz FloraMicro
16oz FloraGro
16oz FloraBloom
8oz FloraBlend
8oz Liquid KoolBloom
4oz FloraKleen
1oz RapidStart
1oz Floralicious Plus
1oz pH Test Indicator
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Subbed :) my next grow will be almost the same as yours - coco and perlite and hopefully LED (expensive as hell in South Africa) or a 600w hps :) looking forward to seeing your results :)



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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Subbed :) my next grow will be almost the same as yours - coco and perlite and hopefully LED (expensive as hell in South Africa) or a 600w hps :) looking forward to seeing your results :)



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I'm debating on the exact same light question. But I can't find a deffinitive answer to which is actually better. Running cost aside! Which is it

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I used rapidstart on mine, here is the purple kush at 4 weeks from seed.
420-magazine-mobile144203395.jpg

30 bucks really? I got a GH performance pack its called with the flora trio and a bunch of other stuff for like 70 dollars I think at the same place I got my tent and light etc.

WOW!!! Those are some nice roots! Can't beat that with rapid rooters. Rapids seem to be a lot smaller, though. You could leave the seedling in there much longer than in the rapids without transplanting I would think.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I used rapidstart on mine, here is the purple kush at 4 weeks from seed.
420-magazine-mobile144203395.jpg

30 bucks really? I got a GH performance pack its called with the flora trio and a bunch of other stuff for like 70 dollars I think at the same place I got my tent and light etc.

Is that the GO pack?
 
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