Magnus8's Coco Coir Big Bud & Pineapple Express, First Grow Ever! Grow Journal

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Can someone please answer me this question: What is the deal with our girls not being exposed to even the slightest amount of light during their dark hours. I know it is important that they not have any light touch them during their dark hours but I just don't understand why.
Just imagine you're a plant in the wild. it's 5 minutes past midnight, and all of a sudden boom, the sun is out in all its glory. Then 5minutes later it's dark again. You'd be pretty confused right? That's how I see it. We are replicating nature. Hence why I believe during veg it needs some dark period, important processes occur in this time in my opinion.

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Just imagine you're a plant in the wild. it's 5 minutes past midnight, and all of a sudden boom, the sun is out in all its glory. Then 5minutes later it's dark again. You'd be pretty confused right? That's how I see it. We are replicating nature. Hence why I believe during veg it needs some dark period, important processes occur in this time in my opinion.

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Thanks Skoondawg, for that very visual accounting of what it would be like for the lights to come on. Your accounting rivaled the masters of fiction for its concise, graphic and startlingly real sense of what it would like to be in that clearing of the forest! I can imagine the flurry of activity that would follow: the deer frightened, the bees all buzzing, the rodents all scurrying, and then my poor plants!

But I think Rideouts is onto something too.

Can either of you, or anyone else, tell me more about how my plants could become hermaphrodites?

I'd love to hear more about that, too, so that I can protect my liite daemons (as the wife-bot likes to call them).
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Stress and light leaks are the major cause of plants turning hermie. just limit the amount of stress you put on the plants, and make sure your dark room is completely sealed off (no peaking either) and you should be good to go. Also if your seeds aren't feminized you just need to make sure to remove any males from the room as soon as they show sex. Other then that you should be good to go


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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

My seeds are feminized, thanks. Saw no need in buying seeds where I was going to through about 1/2 away!


The reason I want to know so much about the light leaks is because the other night we had an emergency in the room and I had to, I just had to, turn on the light where the plants are in the closet. First time this has happened, and will be the last. But I had to get into the closet to get behind the plants at the electrical board back there, and so they got a bit of light -- not much -- for about 3 or 4 minutes. That's why i've been so concerned. They've never had much stress exept for the light stress theey had at the beginning of their life, and yesterday while we were installing the new pump and tray for the watering system, they were under the general overhead light for about 2 hours and not their regular light, which I would consider stressfull, since they didn't drink as much water as usual during that time nor during the night. So they have had that much stress during their lives so far. Should I be concerned?
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Thanks Skoondawg, for that very visual accounting of what it would be like for the lights to come on. Your accounting rivaled the masters of fiction for its concise, graphic and startlingly real sense of what it would like to be in that clearing of the forest! I can imagine the flurry of activity that would follow: the deer frightened, the bees all buzzing, the rodents all scurrying, and then my poor plants!

But I think Rideouts is onto something too.

Can either of you, or anyone else, tell me more about how my plants could become hermaphrodites?

I'd love to hear more about that, too, so that I can protect my liite daemons (as the wife-bot likes to call them).
Haha I'm glad you enjoyed the explanation :D

In terms of why they hermie due to stress, I'd say (in my opinion again) in the wild when they encounter stress they instinctually want to carry on their blood line or whatever so they hermie in order to self pollinate and create seeds so to continue the cycle. That's my logic, not sure how right I am :) would be interesting to study botany after taking such a keen interest in growing cannabis
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Light leaks are more of a concern during flower period not veg so you will be fine



Agreed, don't worry too much about it, forgot you were in veg still :)
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Haha I'm glad you enjoyed the explanation :D

In terms of why they hermie due to stress, I'd say (in my opinion again) in the wild when they encounter stress they instinctually want to carry on their blood line or whatever so they hermie in order to self pollinate and create seeds so to continue the cycle. That's my logic, not sure how right I am :) would be interesting to study botany after taking such a keen interest in growing cannabis

Sounds logical to me. Both plants and animals do amazing things to regenerate in the wild.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Wow it's cool that you're growing big bud I am too I have mine in flower
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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hey ZGrower!

'Welcome to my journal! How nice to see your great pics of your beautiful plants, too. Now I have an idea of what to look forward to. I'd heard that Big Buds don't grow a lot of leaves, but yours seem awfully green to me. Keep up the great work, and I hope you'll stick around to offer your experience and advice. I've got a couple of regular friends who drop in all the time, Rideouts, PE636, Kush among others. It'd be nice to have you along for the ride, too!
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

looking good man, keep the photos coming. :thumb:

Hey RealDougen,

Had no idea you were even watching - why so silent until now, eh? Nice to know you're here. Feel free to offer up your advice whenever I need it, or just to drop in to say HI. Love to hear more from you, man!
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Just too damned tired and sore to get pics yet this morning. Maybe later in the day...
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hey Magnus i have actually been subscribed to this journal all along you just probably just didn't realize it I think your plants are very good too and I have we can make a dual journal one day after big bud I'm thinking about trying auto amnesia


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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Just too damned tired and sore to get pics yet this morning. Maybe later in the day...
But but but I want pics lol. Totally understand Magnus8. I have been there. Really wish you were in my area. I'd come help ya out

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Good morning, All!

Welcome back to my journal. Got some really growing girls, here. Actually, they've been growing fairly slowly with all the changes that have been happening. Here's the rundown of what's been going on.

First of all, my wife-bot, Ginette (who is such a handy grrrrrrl with tools), built me a flood and drain system for my demented little girls (dlgs). All was going well, the system was built and installed in the closet... Had to drill holes in the bottom of our closet to accommodate the hoses and all. Considering this is a rented trailer, we decided that when we leave here we'll just put in a piece of carpet in the closet on the floor to ensure we get our damage deposit back!

Then we decided to test the system... Well! Forgot to test it with liquids BEFORE installing it. And of course it leaked like a sonofabitch. Well, not that bad, really. But it leaked nevertheless.

So out of the closet came the system and into the bathtub it went.

2 days later, we checked it again after using epoxy on it (all we had). Leak was gone, but the girls had been staying in the tent overnight and during the days while we were working on the flood and drain system. So we decided to just install it in the tent instead of the closet after all.

In other words, it became time to move the girls to the big tent when I had planned to do so in about 2 weeks instead of now.

So we raised the light up to the ceiling of the tent and then installed the table I had planned on using in there to save my back incredible pain from having to bend over all the time (I'll be installing a scrog before long, so this was not a problem of height to worry about).

Then we figured out that the table was too high for the maximum height of the light. So we detached the light and re-attached it using other cables than it had come with, in order to shorten the distance from the light to the top of the tent (to raise the light higher). THEN we installed the flood and drain system on the table, put the plants in there and set them to bed for the night.

That was last night.

This morning I tested the system and discovered that the floor of the trailer is crooked, and all the solution flows to the back of the tray the plants are sitting in!!!

So now we've got to either raise the one side of the table so that the water/food flows back the other way, or simply turn the tray around so that the solutions flow the same way, but it will be toward the drainage hose.

What a freakin' proceedure. I'm pooped just writing about it.

Given all that, the girls have been decidedly stressed, though not as stressed as I am. As such, they haven't drank their usual amount of food/water that they usually do. And they haven't been growing as much as they usually do, either. Mind you, they're still growing. They're still living. They're still thriving. And as you'll see from my damaged little girl, they're still going strong. It's just that if it wasn't for the stress, I think they would have grown much more during this time period. Oh well. The first grow is about working out your processes and your kinks. Once these are all worked out, we'll have a great solution for feeding/watering my dlgs.

Another thing. We've hit upon the idea of including medium sized rocks in the tray to cut down on the solution needed to keep the system "afloat." As the rocks displace the solutions, they will raise the height of the solution to higher on the sides of the plants, thereby reducing the amount of solution needed at any one time in the system.

So with that all said, here's the pics for the day!

This is my damaged little girl, after topping the other night she's doing quite well. I got a little anxious with her topping, and I topped too much! I fucked up, but the wrong way. Not fimming here... I cut the leaf that was already growing there off. Or almost off. There was the tiniest amount of leaf left, and I had no idea if it would continue to grow or whether I had ruined that particular site on the plant. But as you can see, especially from the second pic, she seems to be growing her leaf back okay. She's a BB.

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And this is my other BB. She's doing okay, too. I'm pretty pleased with the way her topping worked out, as you can see. She's taking to it rather well.

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And this is the smaller of my two PE. Well, it's hard to say which is the smaller and which is the larger anymore, since they're both doing well.

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And this is the larger of my PE. She's always been a favourite of mine, in a way that the damaged little girl has been a favourite, too. Without further adieu, here she is:

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So. I saw some pics of 25 day old plants, and it really discouraged me. They were so alive, so big, so strong. And mine just are no where near that size or strength or anything. I felt really terrible after seeing those pics. I know I have to recognize that my plants had a bad start. First off, there was the temperature issue with the room being 68 degrees Fahrenheit in there, rather than between 75 - 85. I fixed that, but only after realizing the problem after they were almost 3 weeks old. Then there was the issue of the light burn, where only my damaged little girl (that's where she gets her name from, btw) was actually burned, but they all were damaged even if it didn't show in the leaves. This reduced their size significantly, too. And then there's the stress of having to work out all my growing pains, to use the term correctly. I know that these are the reasons my girls are so behind everybody else's plants, but still, I cannot help but feel badly for how it's all going (growing).

So I've decided that I'm going to veg for as long as it takes to get them up to speed. And if that means that I have to veg for 10 fucking weeks, then that means I have to veg for 10 fucking weeks! I'm sure that if they're given the time, then they'll catch up to what they should be going into flower. I want to have big, strong and healthy plants as they go into flower, not some mediocre weaklings that cannot hold up their own buds. Besides, I want the yield. I'm not growing too many plants here, and I'll need the yield to carry me over to the next harvest. I've got my back to look after. I've got my anxiety to look after. I've got my own peace of mind to look after.

On another, completely different, note... Work on the book goes along swimmingly. I've just handed in my first round of revisions on the second chapter in the novel, and am awaiting the third chapter from my editor. The way it works is that I handed in my completed manuscript to my editor at the beginning of the year, and then she works on the edit, chapter by chapter, handing back to me one chapter at a time what she's worked on/edited. Then I go over all the edits she has suggested and either approve or mark for discussion those edits she has suggested. It's quite a great process, and we work in Google Docs using the Track Changes feature. It allows two or more people to share a document and work together on editing it.

The release date for my novel is set for 14 Nov 17, just days before Black Friday and in time to hit the Christmas rush of buying.

I really hope it does well. It's really a wonderful thriller, set in modern day NYC, and concerns the exploits of a 5 year old boy, Max, who is abducted while playing in a park and returns to his brother's life, Gary, 17 years later. Max, Gary and Gary's new girlfriend, Jean, must navigate the dangerous emotional territory of learning how to love each other, while trying desperately to escape the clutches of the maniacal Quinn, who seeks to re-abduct the young man for his own nefarious purposes.

Anyway, that's the plot of my book, Finding Max. It is the first book in a trilogy of books concerning the same characters. As I said, I really hope it does well. I sure could use the money. But that's another story, isn't it?
 
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