Magnus8's Canna Cream, Body Butter & Canna Lotion Study Hall

[Lady Cannafan]

I don't, actually. I ALWAYS purchase my essential oils from whichever soapcrafting supply store I'm into at the moment. However, I do find that Soap Queen - Tutorials on soapmaking, bath fizzies, lotions and more has great essential oils. For a soapmaking site, she is brilliant. The quality of everything she sells is top notch, including not just her essential oils, but all her oils. Also, Wholesale Soap Making Supplies and Handmade Cosmetic Supplies - WholesaleSuppliesPlus is supposed to be quite good, too, though I've never used them I've heard great things about them. Soap Making Supplies | Essential Oils | Cosmetic & Spa Supplies | Saffire Blue Inc. | Canada | USA is truly my goto place for everything to do with oils, essential oils, etc. Everything to do with soap, lotions, etc. They are based in Canada but serve the States, too.

That offer some choices?

Hey, whatcha making today?

Thanks for the variety of choices for sure! I think I'll hit that soapmaking queen site first, I think I may have been there a time or two in the past few years. Not sure...but I'll know when I get there.

Not really making anything new today, but I did finally get my body scrub bars to the hardness I want by adding more beeswax.
I think it's just where I want it on the hardness, tonight I will test the lathering. Dang that stuff smells good!
Maybe I'll do a before and after shot of some dry skin areas, using them. Those hemp seeds really do a nice job in there.
We'll see how time goes for me.

Thanks again!

 

[Radogast]

GREAT NEWS!!! For anyone interested I'd like to announce that I am the very proud purveyor of my very own mmj license as of about 2:00 p.m. this afternoon!

Fin-al-fuck-ing-ly is all I can say. After all the machinations, after all the run around, after all the "We'd like your psych to sign off on it's", after all the bloody run around -- wait, I already said that, well there were a lot of them -- after all of simply IT, I went to a new doctor today and was rushed through the process so fast it was incredible and had my license within 45 minutes. (How's THAT for a run on sentence from the writer, eh?)

Seriously, I'm thrilled with my new status of being a medical cannabis patient. My prescription is for 4 grams/day (for anyone who knows the Canadian system), which allows me to buy 4-2/7 ounces of cannabis per month at a rate of between $6.75 - $9.50 per gram.

WHAT?!? Who are they Kidding? I don't have that kind of money. I live on government disability. So then that allows me to GROW up to 20 plants at a time, the seeds of which I'm supposed to buy from those same dispensaries that want to rob me blind. In other words, I'm only allowed to grow, hence use, the strains that the dispensaries dispense. No CBD Critical Mass, Yes Bedrolite. No Blue Dream, Yes Bediol. No Ice Bomb, Yes Bedica, No Cinderella 99, Yes Bedrocan, No Kali Mist, Yes Bedrobinol. You get the picture. All the wonderful strains for pain and anxiety and depression that I just finished ordering from my seed guy I can no longer grow legally because the Bedrolite, Bediol and Bedica are the only ones that my dispensary (or, Licensed Provider, or LP, as they are called in Canada) sell. I haven't the freedom to choose the strains I want to grow to treat my own issues. Fuck how I hate Canada even more than usual in this moment. I knew about this monolithical system before I went today, but I didn't have to think about it as it really is, in my face and up my ass. No matter how you try to work it they STILL control your every move here.

So now, in order to grow legally, I have to buy seeds from my LP and either use only those seed in my grow or, more likely, throw them in the toilet and grow my own seeds but be sure to keep the packaging to insist, when I get checked on my the authorities, that every one o f my up to 20 plants in my tent is of seeds that came in that one bag that those other seeds came in. "Yes officer, really, even that purple one over there. It's called 'Bedropurp' but they must have forgotten to list it on the bag! Yes, officer, i found that funny, too."

But despite all the problems and issues of BEING a mmj user in Canada, I STILL AM ONE AS OF TODAY!!!

And for that, dear friends, I am very, very grateful. Finally. There is an end in sight to some of this pain and some of this anxiety that the meds are unable to control. Finally an end to the Fentanyl patch and the addiction that came with it. Finally an end to all the bloody Tylenol 4s that I have to pop like candy and that barely touch the pain, anyway.

Finally, an end to it all (when my stunted grow finally begins to grow like they should and starts to produce some buds... But hey, who's counting the weeks? Not me!)

Goodbye pain and anxiety.

Say hello to the brownies!

Congrats on your medical card.


Back when I was a teenager living away from home, I went to see an insurance agent for auto insurance. 18 year old boy, no parents in the house. Major sticker shock. So the insurance man says to me.
How long you been driving? 2 and 1/2 years.
Any accidents? nope.
Any close calls? not really.
And you drive every day? Yep. At least a few miles during morning commute.
You car is worth about $500. I recommend you ignore buying insurance until you are 21. Just don't get freaked out and get into an accident. You'll be fine.

I'd say the same for you and growing. Don't get freaked out and get caught.

You are in Alberta, that's practically BC If you were in Ontario or Quebec you might have to worry about a lawman. In your neck of the woods, as long as you aren't caught selling, I imagone only a real dick of a mountie is likely to care. How many fed or state police have been to your little house lately?

Dude. You are legal now!
If they dont know the strain, can't you just say you got the seeds from a dispensary in BC?

 

[FeloniousPunk]

Hey Magnus,

Way to Go!

I know the system is clunky and unresponsive to patients needs (especially the cost). But YOU are LEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace.

 

[Magnus8]

Thanks Cannafan, Hashgirl, Felonious, Radogast for your congratulations, and all those others who congratulated me inside but didn't get a chance to write a post. I know you're out there. I appreciate you well-wishes greatly.

And HG, absolutely LOVED your post!

You all are the best of the bestest.

 

[Magnus8]

Congrats on your medical card.


Dude. You are legal now!
If they dont know the strain, can't you just say you got the seeds from a dispensary in BC?

I CAN, but I have to buy some seeds from the Licensed Provider first, keep the packaging and use that to "prove" I bought the seeds legally. Stupid system, but that's the way it works.

So I'll do it. I don't mind "following" rules... Well, I do mind, but I'll do it anyway.

 

[Magnus8]

Hey Magnus,

Way to Go!

I know the system is clunky and unresponsive to patients needs (especially the cost). But YOU are LEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace.

Yes, it is, but you've got it right. The great news is that I'm legal. And that's saying something, isn't it?

Peace out to you too!

 

[Moe Ugly]

Hey Magnus8 congratulations on becoming legal (I think)
To bad it's not the good old days where we just smoked pot for fun.
I have been legal for two years and now I'm thinking of not renewing my card. I'm in California and they passed recreational marijuana just for the tax revenues. I have only been to a dispensary a handful of times and will probably never step foot in one again thank to this site and people like you. I now grow my own and make my own contraptions.


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[Moe Ugly]

Whipped Shea Butter
This is one I did last week.
16 oz Shea butter
6 oz coconut oil
I infused the two above with 2 ounces of AC/DC.
I divided it in half and refrigerated one for future experiment.
To the other Half I added:
4 ml lavender oil
4 ml rosehip oil
1 tsp vitamin E ( probably did not need it but had it)
1 1/2 oz Beeswax.
2 tsp corn starch
Whipped with an electric mixer.



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[Magnus8]

Whipped Shea Butter
This is one I did last week.
16 oz Shea butter
6 oz coconut oil
I infused the two above with 2 ounces of AC/DC.
I divided it in half and refrigerated one for future experiment.
To the other Half I added:
4 ml lavender oil
4 ml rosehip oil
1 tsp vitamin E ( probably did not need it but had it)
1 1/2 oz Beeswax.
2 tsp corn starch
Whipped with an electric mixer.



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So how did this work out for you? Does it help the pain? Your choice of essential oils are nice, though I've got a few suggestions that I'm going to add below, if you don't mind. I bet you don't, though, or why else would you be showing it up here unless you wanted some suggestions that might make your concoction even better for pain control. I'm assuming this one's for pain control, yes?

Okay, for pain control, these are my suggestions:

1) Do away with the coconut oil. I'm assuming you want it in there because it helps to harden your concoction somewhat, and it would do that. But it will also help PREVENT the cannabinoids from passing through the skin and entering the body to the pain. Coconut oil acts as a barrier. It sits on top of the skin and doesn't pass through the skin. But you need something to help harden your concoction, right? So use Cocoa Butter or Mango Butter instead! Both of these oils are hard oils and they both pass through the skin barrier much, much better than coconut oil ever will. They will not prevent the cannabinoids from entering the body, but will in fact help the other carrier oil (shea butter) to perform that task. And your choice to use so much shea butter is really bold, too. Shea butter can get greasy in large amounts. I bet you really have to rub a long while to get rid of that greasy feel. hahaha. But if it works to carry those cannabinoids, then who cares, right? Besides, your starch will help cut down on the greasy feel.

2) I suspect you've chosen your essential oils based on smell primarily and possibly on lavender's attribute to help one relax. This is true about lavender, but I've got a suggestion for you instead of the rosehip oil. Use a combination of peppermint and tea tree essential oils in your concoction. Both of them are known to have their own pain reduction qualities themselves. Those two oils, in combination with your lavender oil will go a long way in relaxing, warming the area and cutting through the pain even before you add the cannabis. In fact, you could take these three oils together with a carrier oil and without the cannabis and get a significant amount of pain relief. I"m not sure why you chose the rosehip oil for your concoction. I'd be curious for you to tell me why you chose it. Who knows, maybe I'll learn something i didn't know about rosehip oil?

And to note: Vitamin E is always good to add to a topical cream. Always. I put it in every single lotion I make and many of my creams as well. So you made a very good choice there to go along with your other very good choices. I hope my suggestions don't sound like criticisms. They are not meant to in any way whatsoever. They are only meant as guides to help you become a better cream crafter, and to nudge you further in your thinking about what is possible in this wondrous world of cream, butter and lotion crafting.

Peace, and have a grand evening.

 

[Moe Ugly]

Thanks for the suggestions.
I bet you really have to rub a long while to get rid of that greasy feel. Well I wont lie, it does go on a little greasy and takes about three times longer to rub in than store bought lotion. I think the starch and really whipping the day lights out of it helped a lot. I did purchase some silk peptide powder and thinking about warming it up and trying it.
Two reasons why I used Rosehip (1) i have a big bottle of it.
(2)Rosehip oil contains vitamin C and vitamin A. It also contains essential fatty acids such as:
oleic acid
palmitic acid
linoleic acid
gamma linolenic acid
Rosehip oil is also a good source of vitamin F, a fatty acid made of linoleic acid and alpha-linoleic acid.
Rosehip oil is supposed to correct dark spots and hydrate dry, itchy skin, all while reducing scars and fine lines.
I do have tea tree oil butt wanted to keep the fist try simple.
Peppermint oil I knew about butt its a target oil for my dog that does k-9 nose work and would be a major distraction for her. Sweet birch would also be a good one for pain butt its also one of our target odors.
So far I'm pretty happy with this batch. My wife likes it(big +) my daughter said it relieves back pain. For me it does not help itching or nephropathy in my hands and feet yet.
Now I got a question, I have 8 oz of infused shea butter and coconut oil in the fooderator how long will it last?

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Thanks for the suggestions.
I bet you really have to rub a long while to get rid of that greasy feel. Well I wont lie, it does go on a little greasy and takes about three times longer to rub in than store bought lotion. I think the starch and really whipping the day lights out of it helped a lot. I did purchase some silk peptide powder and thinking about warming it up and trying it.
Two reasons why I used Rosehip (1) i have a big bottle of it.
(2)Rosehip oil contains vitamin C and vitamin A. It also contains essential fatty acids such as:
oleic acid
palmitic acid
linoleic acid
gamma linolenic acid
Rosehip oil is also a good source of vitamin F, a fatty acid made of linoleic acid and alpha-linoleic acid.
Rosehip oil is supposed to correct dark spots and hydrate dry, itchy skin, all while reducing scars and fine lines.
I do have tea tree oil butt wanted to keep the fist try simple.
Peppermint oil I knew about butt its a target oil for my dog that does k-9 nose work and would be a major distraction for her. Sweet birch would also be a good one for pain butt its also one of our target odors.
So far I'm pretty happy with this batch. My wife likes it(big +) my daughter said it relieves back pain. For me it does not help itching or nephropathy in my hands and feet yet.
Now I got a question, I have 8 oz of infused shea butter and coconut oil in the fooderator how long will it last?

There are so many reasons that people cannot use specific essential oils and fragrances, whether allergies or just not liking the particular fragrance...but this one was new to me. It would never have occurred to me that it would affect a K-9's abilities.
Don't know why it surprised me, my ex used to put a thin layer of vicks vaporub on the dogs' nose to keep it from tracking critters into the woods and running off.

Love the post on your recipe. And thank you Magnus for your thoughts on the ingredients. I won't feel nervous about adding that extra vitamin E that I usually do.

 

[Magnus8]

Thanks for the suggestions.
I bet you really have to rub a long while to get rid of that greasy feel. Well I wont lie, it does go on a little greasy and takes about three times longer to rub in than store bought lotion. I think the starch and really whipping the day lights out of it helped a lot. I did purchase some silk peptide powder and thinking about warming it up and trying it.
Two reasons why I used Rosehip (1) i have a big bottle of it.
(2)Rosehip oil contains vitamin C and vitamin A. It also contains essential fatty acids such as:
oleic acid
palmitic acid
linoleic acid
gamma linolenic acid
Rosehip oil is also a good source of vitamin F, a fatty acid made of linoleic acid and alpha-linoleic acid.
Rosehip oil is supposed to correct dark spots and hydrate dry, itchy skin, all while reducing scars and fine lines.
I do have tea tree oil butt wanted to keep the fist try simple.
Peppermint oil I knew about butt its a target oil for my dog that does k-9 nose work and would be a major distraction for her. Sweet birch would also be a good one for pain butt its also one of our target odors.
So far I'm pretty happy with this batch. My wife likes it(big +) my daughter said it relieves back pain. For me it does not help itching or nephropathy in my hands and feet yet.
Now I got a question, I have 8 oz of infused shea butter and coconut oil in the fooderator how long will it last?

I think, first of all, that it is entirely too freakin' cool that your dog does k-9 work! Wow! I have two dogs and often think that one of them would be good at that if she wasn't such a schizoid. Too late though. She's 9 years old. Besides being a schizoid, she's also a real gem and I love her dearly. I love the other one too, but she's more the wife-bot's dog, whereas the lab is more my dog. Funny how that happens, isn't it?

Loved your answer about the Rosehip oil. Stuff I didn't know, like I said. Thanks for the info Have never given mch thhought to how the oils we use would affect our best friends, but of course it would. Thanks for your answer and not thinking I was getting down on you, because I wasn't.

Have a great day ahead.

 

[Magnus8]

I think, first of all, that it is entirely too freakin' cool that your dog does k-9 work! Wow! I have two dogs and often think that one of them would be good at that if she wasn't such a schizoid. Too late though. She's 9 years old. Besides being a schizoid, she's also a real gem and I love her dearly. I love the other one too, but she's more the wife-bot's dog, whereas the lab is more my dog. Funny how that happens, isn't it?

Loved your answer about the Rosehip oil. Stuff I didn't know, like I said. Thanks for the info Have never given mch thhought to how the oils we use would affect our best friends, but of course it would. Thanks for your answer and not thinking I was getting down on you, because I wasn't.

Have a great day ahead.

One thing I forgot to mention is that no matter how much you whip it it will have no bearing on how greasy your oil feels. How greasy your oil feels is due primarily to the oils you put into it and secondarily to other elements you add to it, but never has to do with how much we whip our concoctions.

Mind you, it does make it that much nicer of a cream, doesn't it? The body butter I used to sell at the farmer's markets for numerous years was always whipped to death, too. It always had this buttery texture to it and felt amazing going on and made it always look so amazing, too. Keep up the great work and keep on sharing it with your results up here. Everyone is learning through you, and that's a great thing and reason to share.

 

[Magnus8]

There are so many reasons that people cannot use specific essential oils and fragrances, whether allergies or just not liking the particular fragrance...but this one was new to me. It would never have occurred to me that it would affect a K-9's abilities.
Don't know why it surprised me, my ex used to put a thin layer of vicks vaporub on the dogs' nose to keep it from tracking critters into the woods and running off.

Love the post on your recipe. And thank you Magnus for your thoughts on the ingredients. I won't feel nervous about adding that extra vitamin E that I usually do.

Dear Cannafan,

Never feel nervous about adding Vitamin E to your concoctions. It is great stuff for the skin. Like many oils, a little goes a long way, so be sure not to add overly much to each recipe. There's no need to waste it.

 

[Magnus8]

Thanks for the suggestions.
I bet you really have to rub a long while to get rid of that greasy feel. Well I wont lie, it does go on a little greasy and takes about three times longer to rub in than store bought lotion. I think the starch and really whipping the day lights out of it helped a lot. I did purchase some silk peptide powder and thinking about warming it up and trying it.
Two reasons why I used Rosehip (1) i have a big bottle of it.
(2)Rosehip oil contains vitamin C and vitamin A. It also contains essential fatty acids such as:
oleic acid
palmitic acid
linoleic acid
gamma linolenic acid
Rosehip oil is also a good source of vitamin F, a fatty acid made of linoleic acid and alpha-linoleic acid.
Rosehip oil is supposed to correct dark spots and hydrate dry, itchy skin, all while reducing scars and fine lines.
I do have tea tree oil butt wanted to keep the fist try simple.
Peppermint oil I knew about butt its a target oil for my dog that does k-9 nose work and would be a major distraction for her. Sweet birch would also be a good one for pain butt its also one of our target odors.
So far I'm pretty happy with this batch. My wife likes it(big +) my daughter said it relieves back pain. For me it does not help itching or nephropathy in my hands and feet yet.
Now I got a question, I have 8 oz of infused shea butter and coconut oil in the fooderator how long will it last?

You know, I'm not entirely sure, because of the infusion. My best bet would that you'd be really safe within a 6 - 8 month time frame, and maybe even within a year. Maybe Cannafan has a better idea how long an infusion like this would last you in the refrigerator.

A couple of things to be aware of. First of all, the oils absorbing the smells of the refrigerator. Second of all, your oils themselves would probably last up to 1.5 years safely, but it's the addition of the herbal ingredient that I'm not sure of. Because I was using all my oils within 2 weeks of mixing because I was selling them quite rapidly, I rarely mixed more than I could use. But at the end of my career I DID have extra oils mixed, and that was 1.5 years ago now, and they are still fine to use. I'm thinking of my body butter in particular, a mix of several oils including shea butter and lots of it (which is why I know your own concoction would be greasy because my own body butter was quite greasy, too). But this particular concoction never had an herbal component.

One more thing, have you thought about using Tapioca instead of the one you use? it's a starch that is commonly used in the cosmetics industry and is finer grained than corn starch or many other starches. You can get it at the Bulk Barn and other bulk food places easily.

And please don't think with all these suggestions that I dislike your recipe. I LOVE it, and think it is a very brave concoction. Thank you so much for sharing it with us and please don't feel discouraged at all.

As they say in my neck of the woods, Keep On Truckin'. I live in Alberta, Canada, btw.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

What I have been told and read consistently is that infused products have a shelf life of about 3 months before the THC etc. starts to break down. That's not suggesting it's not useable after that time frame, just saying it's going to get weaker as time goes on from what people report. I would think that keeping it in the refrigerator in a tightly closed glass container (to keep the absorption smells from the fridge items out) would extend that shelf life, but there are varying opinions on how long. Just keep it out of direct light, the darkest part of your fridge where opening and closing the door turns that light on won't affect it too much.
I store my infused creams and coconut oil in the meat drawer in the bottom of the fridge. It stays pretty dark there and keeps wandering eyes from seeing it when they open the door.

Just my opinion.

 

[Magnus8]

What I have been told and read consistently is that infused products have a shelf life of about 3 months before the THC etc. starts to break down. That's not suggesting it's not useable after that time frame, just saying it's going to get weaker as time goes on from what people report. I would think that keeping it in the refrigerator in a tightly closed glass container (to keep the absorption smells from the fridge items out) would extend that shelf life, but there are varying opinions on how long. Just keep it out of direct light, the darkest part of your fridge where opening and closing the door turns that light on won't affect it too much.
I store my infused creams and coconut oil in the meat drawer in the bottom of the fridge. It stays pretty dark there and keeps wandering eyes from seeing it when they open the door.

Just my opinion.

Thanks for that info, Cannafan. I needed to know that for my own personal use, as well as it's useful info for the thread. Thanks so much, again.

Sent you a pm about something completely different, Please keep an eye out for it.

 

[Moe Ugly]

Yes thanks for the info, cannafan


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[Moe Ugly]

I think, first of all, that it is entirely too freakin' cool that your dog does k-9 work! Wow! I have two dogs and often think that one of them would be good at that if she wasn't such a schizoid. Too late though. She's 9 years old. Besides being a schizoid, she's also a real gem and I love her dearly. I love the other one too, but she's more the wife-bot's dog, whereas the lab is more my dog. Funny how that happens, isn't it?

Loved your answer about the Rosehip oil. Stuff I didn't know, like I said. Thanks for the info Have never given mch thhought to how the oils we use would affect our best friends, but of course it would. Thanks for your answer and not thinking I was getting down on you, because I wasn't.

Have a great day ahead.

It's never to late to teach an old dog new tricks. The dogs love the game and it really works there brains.
I did not feel you were getting down on me at all. In fact I appreciate your input and I'm sure others are learning too.
Blah ha ha I'm soon to have the softest tithe twisters in the west


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[Radogast]

It's never to late to teach an old dog new tricks. The dogs love the game and it really works there brains.
I did not feel you were getting down on me at all. In fact I appreciate your input and I'm sure others are learning too.
Blah ha ha I'm soon to have the softest tithe twisters in the west


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"titthe twister" - Interesting little colloquialism. As an old dog interested in new tricks, care to elaborate on the meaning?