Magnus8's Canna Cream, Body Butter & Canna Lotion Study Hall

[Cannoisseuras]

No worries magnus you are 100% correct my apoligies I thought this was the thread sinse I was using oil..lol but ty for not being rude I really do appreciate that and im sorry if I seemed rude for posting. that was not my intentions at all and thanks for guiding me to the correct thread

anything that occurs in nature cannot be unnatural!
The Birth & Evolution Of A Dragon

Unknown Strain From Seed - First Time Grow

 

[Magnus8]

Has everyone given thought to my post from the other day about the items needed to craft a lotion which you may not have?

Okay then.

Has ANYONE AT ALL given it much thought?

The items i listed in that post are essential to your success if you want to craft a canna lotion to lower stress, relieve pain, reduce inflammation, etc.

I wondered why no one had posted any questions regarding the items listed until I realized that no one had given my post much thought!

I now invite you all -- no, i implore you all -- to re-read that post and query me with any questions you may have, whether the be about the reason why each item is essential or even possible potential substitutions. I will, of course, answer any and all questions i am able.

I hope i'm not coming across as a hardass here. I am only trying to bring those of you who seriously want to craft a canna lotion for personal use as soon as possible along in a timely manner.

If you'd like to re-read the list of items, feel free to check out that list in the illustrious blog that our amazing Cannafan has so kindly put together for us all. I'm sorry butI have the lilink; imI'm onmymy phphone right now!

Hoping you're all having wonderful Monday nights.

 

[jingo]

Re: Magnus8's Canna Cream - Body Butter - & Canna Lotion Study Hall

I've been following and rereading and trying to condense so I can have a reference. I'm only one third of the way through the thread

It's just taking me along time to digest and I'm not sure when I'll be ready. I will likely have to buy everything except a scale and it's allot to figure out and try and budget and plan.

It's just for me, forums are not how I learn. Probably the most difficult is watching a video, followed by a forum, then a nun with a ruler. Not anything against you or your style, it's just this is not my favored medium to learn.

 

[Dave Groomer]

You know I went and looked at that link also and I didn't find it very clear myself. Even though I've been doing Everclear washes for some time now.

What confused me is he appeared to be using a carrier oil while he was doing this alcohol wash which just doesn't make any sense.

Rick Simpson Oil is the process of taking wet cannabis and washing it with naphtha.

You will always have residue of whatever solvent you use when making the oil so in my opinion if you can afford it the only thing you should make it with is alcohol safe for human consumption.

I reclaim my alcohol so that helps keep costs down.

When you follow the Rick Simpson method you get a lot of chlorophyll plant waxes lipids just about anything actually.

The alcohol wash methods start with bone dry cannabis that has been frozen for at least 24 hours and his wife with alcohol is been frozen for 24 hours. I wash for No More Than 3 minutes. I haven't found anything longer to do any better.

So I break up my bud and remove it from the stems and I put it in my dehydrator to bone dry it but I don't use any heat in my dehydrator. I don't want to lose any of the terpenes has the heat will help release those.

Once I have the material bone dry I put 15 grams in a pint canning jar. Then I put that jar in the freezer and however much alcohol I'm going to use overnight. The next day I take out that jar open it up for the alcohol and real fast shake it crazy hard for three minutes.

Then it goes into a screen filter and a bunch of coffee filters. At that point you have a very strong tincture. I reduce it down to an oil by using a modified water distiller.

In fact I'm actually running about half a pound of product this morning so I'll put up a few pictures.

I apologize for the pictures being out of order.

I pour my tincture into this pitcher and mark the level with the dry erase marker. Then I know when I'm getting most of my alcohol back.

I make my CCO almost exactly like you do. The reclamation still is just an enhancement on the Technique Tim, MO and Cajun came up with in that link. For what it's worth, I know that they worked on several different extraction techniques and did lab testing on all their results. The one used in the link gave the best results and was the easiest way for the average person to make their own CCO. Unless you have access to high end equipment (closed loop extractors and vacuum chambers) this is the way to go.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Lotion Crafting Date

Here's the link to the equipment needed for a lotion:

Magnus8 - Lotions - Must have ingredients and Equipment

Personally, I can plan just about any Saturday and Sunday with enough notice to not plan any other activities.

Magnus8, the post on the things to purchase or have available is mostly equipment, other than the concentrated Oil and Distilled water. What are the other ingredients we will need to get a base lotion going? Other oils, butters, emulsifiers...etc. Did you have a planned post for that? People may have to purchase those items in advance too.

Thanks, and I hope I didn't miss a post that covered that already.

 

[Magnus8]

Lotion Crafting Date

Here's the link to the equipment needed for a lotion:

Magnus8 - Lotions - Must have ingredients and Equipment

Personally, I can plan just about any Saturday and Sunday with enough notice to not plan any other activities.

Magnus8, the post on the things to purchase or have available is mostly equipment, other than the concentrated Oil and Distilled water. What are the other ingredients we will need to get a base lotion going? Other oils, butters, emulsifiers...etc. Did you have a planned post for that? People may have to purchase those items in advance too.

Thanks, and I hope I didn't miss a post that covered that already.

Hi Cannafan,

In fact, I did have a plan! Only it's not working out as i expected...

I had planned on doing a series of posts on different oils for people to learn about and choose their own oils to purchase. I think I'm going to have to REALLY condense those posts into one post with only about 4 or 5 oils/butters for people to choose their favourites from. I like to give people lots of choices of their own, but sometimes too many choices is too much choices. And too much confusion. I think this may be a case in point.

So.

With that said, I will design a post with a few oils/butters that people may choose from for their choices, and let them choose from that.

But there's still a lot to do before then. Yes, there are oils/butters to purchase, along with emulsifying wax (e-wax) and conditioning emulsifier (BTMS) if someone wants it, but there's still a lot of time for that. I wanted to give a lot of lead time for people to get their equipment. Not everyone has a lot of disposable income. I know that, were I in everyone else's boat right now, I would need time to save the money to purchase the equipment. There are likely people on government disability here, even, and government disability doesn't give much money to purchase lotion making equipment. It's not like they have a category for it like, food, shelter, lotion making equipment, transportation and such. And it takes time for this stuff to come from Amazon-land or whichever -land you purchase it from.

Oh, and I still have a post planned where I'll explain what e-wax and BTMS are and do and why it is so important to have them for making lotions. In that post I'll explain where to purchase them.

So we've still got time. No need to fret. And I will get that post about the oils/butter out as soon as I am able. I hope that about covers it.

Slept badly last night. Exhausted. And lots of pain. Enough to almost bring me to tears this morning. Have some editing to work on on my novel, too. And have to drive into Vegreville (45 min each way) to pick up my Fentanyl. So I'll do what I can today, to the best of my ability. I hope that's okay enough for everyone.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

I hope your day gets better Magnus. Sorry you woke up in pain, that's truly not the way we want to start our day.

Yes, limited budgets are a concern. People will need time to save and/or order what they will need before a day of trying their first lotion making.

Take your time with the rest of the posts on the oils and emulsifiers etc., I certainly didn't mean to try to rush you on anything. I was just responding to your earlier post on whether people had questions on the equipment etc. and wondering about ingredients needed.

 

[Magnus8]

I hope your day gets better Magnus. Sorry you woke up in pain, that's truly not the way we want to start our day.

Yes, limited budgets are a concern. People will need time to save and/or order what they will need before a day of trying their first lotion making.

Take your time with the rest of the posts on the oils and emulsifiers etc., I certainly didn't mean to try to rush you on anything. I was just responding to your earlier post on whether people had questions on the equipment etc. and wondering about ingredients needed.

No harm done, Cannafan,

I may have sounded a bit crabby, too, and I'm sorry if I did. It is the day before the anniversary of the murder of someone I loved dearly, who was murdered for the stupid reason that it was a hate crime. 25 years ago tomorrow. And I feel I'll never get over it.

Mind you, the sun is shining. The dogs know nothing about my inner hurt (even if Ginette has to witness it), and so they're all happy and playing up and down the hall. Actually, that was earlier. They're sleeping at my feet underneath the table right now. And there's nothing like a contented puppy to ease the ills of (wo)mankind. Sometimes, when Dobby (my black lab/sheppard cross) kisses me obsessively before laying down to sleep at my feet at night in bed, I am reminded of all the joy in my life. If all the joy I ever experienced was contained in just those kisses, I would still be a happy man.

I hope everyone is having wonderful Tuesdays today. I hope the sun is shining where you are. And I hope to hell you have a loving dog who kisses you obsessively on days like this.

 

[Magnus8]

Okay.

Let's talk about oils and butters again. The last time we were here, we spoke of Apricot Kernel Oil. Today, due to time constraints, and because I don't want to confuse you more than need be, I'd like to talk about several oils/butters at once, and tell you not as much detail about each of them, but tell you why I think each might make a grand addition to your lotion.

Lighter Oils:

Sweet Almond Oil
Density: Medium
Penetration: Medium
Oily Feel: Light
Sweet Almond Oil is one of those oils that every lotion- and soapmaker has in their arsenal. It goes on beautifully leaving only a light sensation that it was ever there. Being one of the lighter oils in our collection, you can be assured that it will moisturize without leaving any heavy residue behind. I use it in almost all of my lotions, it is that wonderful. And it is moderately priced.

Cherry Kernel Oil
Density: Medium
Penetration: Medium
Oily Feel: Light
Cherry Kernel Oil is one of those oils that moisturizes splendidly again leaving only a light feel behind that makes the skin smooth and luscious. Truly an oil-lovers oil, Cherry Kernel Oil can easily be obtained from any lotion- or soapmakers supply house. A very special oil for that special lotion.

Fractionated Coconut Oil
Density: Light
Penetration: Good
Oily Feel: Minimal
Fractionated Coconut Oil has already been talked about on this thread, so you've become familiar with it already. It leaves almost a light to dry oily feel behind, moisturizing the skin but more for those who don't want to feel like they've used a lotion at all. There will be SOME light residue, but not much. I love this oil for infusing essential oils in it and spreading it directly on my back. It is that light and absorbs that easily. Deep penetration right down to the muscles, as far as I can attest to. At least it seems so with my back (experience talking, nothing else).

Grapeseed Oil
Density: Light
Penetration: Good
Oily Feel: Light
Grapeseed Oil is another one of those oils in every lotion- and soapcrafters arsenal. I used to use it to add extra moisturizing qualities to my soaps all the time. Every single soap I made got extra Grapeseed Oil in it. That's how good it is. It soaks in rather quickly and moisturizes beautifully, leaving nary a scant residue behind (and it's always good with a lotion to have a bit of residue behind, because that's what makes a lotion feel like it is working). It is easily obtained from your grocery store beside where the Olive Oil is kept. And not too expensive, especially if you buy it at a bulk food kind of place.

Mango Butter
Density: Heavy
Penetration: Medium
Oily Feel: Light
This is one of your solid oils at room temperature. A great moisturizer (maybe not quite as good as the rest on this list, but still very, very good), its best use is to firm up a lotion a bit. Since it is solid at room temperature, when mixed into a lotion it helps to make it thicker and richer, without added emulsifying wax (which can get, well, waxy in higher dosages). A wonderful oil to use, especially if you're not using Shea Butter or Cocoa Butter in your lotion.

Heavy Oils

Shea Butter
Density: Heavy
Penetration: Medium
Oily Feel: Heavy
Used in small doses (2%-5%) in your lotion, Shea Butter adds many enviable qualities that anyone would want in their commercial lotion but doesn't get! It moisturizes, it helps heals cuts and abrasions (I can attest to this from experience), it glides on like no other, and since it is a hard butter at room temperature, it helps to thicken your lotion as well. Another oil in every lotion- and soapcrafter's arsenal, I used to put it in every single soap I used to make. Yes, it is that special. And not just in soap, either. I also put it in almost every single lotion I now make. I cannot stress enough the wonderful qualities of Shea Butter, but make sure you buy the kind that is made by a collective of families or a small village, rather than one of the huge corporations that is raping the rainforest for its many splendours. Any reputable lotion crafting supplier will tell you where their Shea Butter is derived from.

Walnut Oil
Density: Medium
Penetration: Good
Oily Feel: Moderate
Walnut Oil is another one of those easily found oils, taking up space in the oils section of your grocery store. It's a good, healthy oil to use. Leaves a bit of a heavier feel to it afterwards, which is why I've dumped it in with the Heavy Oils, but not so heavy that its feels like a stick of butter on your skin, melting away. Leaves a nice, slippery feel to the skin and is great used in the winter months.

Olive Oil
Density: Heavy
Penetration: Poor
Oily Feel: Heavy
I'm including Olive Oil in this list just because it is so ubiquitous, it is everywhere you turn. Yes, it's a fine oil. For EATING. Well, that's not fair. It can be a fine oil in lotions, too, but only if used at a very low dose. 1%-2% is all you need to feel the benefits of Olive Oil. NEVER use it beyond these amounts, or your lotion will be like slathering on a bucket of grease. I once had the misfortune of testing a lotion that a class of students had made. They had wanted to make a lotion and all they had readily available was Olive Oil, so that is what they had used. It looked beautiful, all fluffy and white, and it spread on like butter. Unfortunately, it WAS like spreading butter on your skin. Or more like dipping your arm in a bucket of olive oil and trying to spread it in. Just didn't work. Just because it is in a lotion doesn't change the basic nature of the ingredient itself. If it's Olive Oil, then it's Olive Oil. 1%-2%. That's all. Enough said. One more thing: It just doesn't penetrate the skin. That's why it is a terrible carrier oil for cannabinoids -- and isn't that what we're looking for here? Good cannabinoid carriers in our lotions?



So there are some oils to think about purchasing for your lotions. You won't need much of each lotion, and frankly, for some lotions, you won't need more than one or two oils. Depends on the oils you choose, doesn't it? I urge you all to take some time to research further any oils that I have written about above and to narrow down your choices of oils to possibly, say, three or less oils in your lotion. That would certainly be enough. And go crazy! Pick one of the solid oils for your lotion! Or something you've never heard of. This is a fun time, deciding on which oils to include in your first lotion. And if you enjoy the lotion you make, you will probably make more, so there will be more oils to purchase at a later date. You don't have to purchase them all now. Or even many of them. I know one woman who makes a lotion for herself and the only oil -- the only one -- that she uses for it is Walnut Oil. It just works perfectly for her skin. And she loves it! Raves about that one lotion with that one oil. Can't get enough of it.

So think about that.

Choose wisely. Choose well. And have fun with the choosing.

And remember, if you have any questions, I'm only a posting or a private message away.

Be well. All of you.

(Cannafan: This one's for the blog. Obviously, eh? Thanks so much!)

 

[Radogast]

I appreciate all the talk about oils for lotions, but I personally won't be asking questions. And I won't be part of a simulcast study day - I'm still a few months from harvesting enugh to cover more than medicinal smoking needs.

At this point in my life, I want to try a simple body butter that I can use to rub my wife's feet every night.
I may graduate to lotions and emulsifier ratios some day, but the simpler and more effective the better.

Not saying my personal situation is all that important, just saying that some off us on this thread can't be active participants now, but want to learn a bit for the future.

Now I'll go sit in the back with the other lazy students

 

[Magnus8]

I appreciate all the talk about oils for lotions, but I personally won't be asking questions. And I won't be part of a simulcast study day - I'm still a few months from harvesting enugh to cover more than medicinal smoking needs.

At this point in my life, I want to try a simple body butter that I can use to rub my wife's feet every night.
I may graduate to lotions and emulsifier ratios some day, but the simpler and more effective the better.

Not saying my personal situation is all that important, just saying that some off us on this thread can't be active participants now, but want to learn a bit for the future.

Now I'll go sit in the back with the other lazy students

Radogast,

You, nor anyone else here, are hardly "lazy students" just because you want to learn how to make a butter rather than a lotion. I am not opposed to teaching anyone on this thread anything I know about making lotions or butters (creams). The way this came about, if you were around to follow this thread that far back, was that I inquired if anyone else was interested in learning how to craft a lotion. There was quite a lot of interest shown and so I decided to apply what knowledge I have to helping those with this interest in learning how to craft their own lotion.

The information I have put up about oils is equally applicable to learning how to craft a butter. The only difference between a butter and a lotion is that a butter is a concoction derived completely from oils, whereas a lotion is a concoction that is a mixture of oils and water-based components that are held together through the use of an emulsifier, such as emulsifying wax (e-wax) or conditioning emulsifier (BTMS). Either way, when you learn about oils, you learn about them to apply your learning to either your new lotion OR your new butter.

The oils I have mentioned would all work beautifully in a butter, and I urge you to read that post, if you haven't yet, to see which of those oils may interest you in using in your butter that you want to make.

I am always here to offer my experience, knowledge and guidance whatever concoction you want to make -- unless that concoction is canna-brownies! I really know next to nothing about cooking with cannabis! (But I'm willing to learn )

So please, don't feel that your needs must take a back burner to the needs of the others on this thread. They are just as important and pressing as the needs of anyone else on this thread who is looking to craft a concoction in service of relieving the pain of injury, disease or age. Please, assault us with your questions. Barrage us with your concerns. Implore us with your fears. And use us. Please, we are all here to be used as much as you need us.

I hope to hear more from you from now on. I had no idea you were feeling this way. And maybe you have spoken the words that others were to anxious to speak themselves. See? You may have already been of service to others sitting back, watching, listening but feeling too small to speak.

Thank you for that.

 

[Cannoisseuras]

Good morning everyone. Sorry to hear about that anniversary magnas I hope you feel better.

I was just checking in to see if anyone has any experience using cannalotion or cannaoil to help extreme eczema? And if so what would be the recomended recipe?

Thanks in advance. Hope you all have a blessed day

anything that occurs in nature cannot be unnatural!
The Birth & Evolution Of A Dragon

Unknown Strain From Seed - First Time Grow

 

[Magnus8]

Good morning everyone. Sorry to hear about that anniversary magnas I hope you feel better.

I was just checking in to see if anyone has any experience using cannalotion or cannaoil to help extreme eczema? And if so what would be the recomended recipe?

Thanks in advance. Hope you all have a blessed day

anything that occurs in nature cannot be unnatural!
The Birth & Evolution Of A Dragon

Unknown Strain From Seed - First Time Grow

I'm sorry, Cannoisseuras, but I have no experience treating eczema. The closest I came to working on eczema was to make a soap called Oats and Goats which was made with Goat's Milk and Oatmeal and which eased the itching of the problem.

If you feel so inclined, you can perform an internet search on oils good for eczema and I'm sure you will come up with a plethora of information on it. I wouldn't believe all the hype, but when an oil comes up again and again as being good for eczema, then that is one to check out. Then come back here and tell us which oil(s) you found to be good for eczema and we can help you from there to craft a butter or lotion that might help ease your condition.

It will be much easier to help you if you do a bit more footwork on your own, coming back here with an oil(s) in mind that you want to use for your condition.

An internet search like this should take you all of half an hour at most. And you might find otherr herbal remedies for your eczema along the way, too!

Does that help? I hope so. I don't want to just turn you away, but i just don't have the time to do this research myself this morning.

Best of luck to you on your search for an oil that will help. I know they are out there, I just don't remember what they are.

 

[Cannoisseuras]

Yup that helps alot. It guides me to the path. Thank you

anything that occurs in nature cannot be unnatural!
The Birth & Evolution Of A Dragon

Unknown Strain From Seed - First Time Grow

 

[New B]

Recently remembered my cousin deals with migraines daily. She is a teacher so not smoking it at all. Not sure if she'll try anything infused,but any suggestions on lotions or creams? Oils that would be good for the head?
Need to speak to her before going on with this. Just planning ahead.

First Grow For Me - So First Journal Also

 

[HashGirl]

Good afternoon, friends.

I have been adding more beeswax like Magnus suggested to my cream and am now at around 16% beeswax, which is double what Magnus suggested should be added and it's still not really a cream; it's more of a creamy lotion. Should I keep adding more beeswax or be satisfied with what I have already? I have tried it and it works great! I rubbed it on all my sore parts yesterday morning and this morning and yesterday, I didn't have to ingest any cannaoil at work until 2 p.m. Today was closer to 12:30 but it's calling for precipitation tonight and I'm always achier when it's wet. Here's a photo of the current product:

What do you think?

I figured out my problem. Have I ever told you that I'm seriously mathematically challenged??? I always tell Felonious that I need his math skills for figuring out stuff like percentages, fractions, decimals, etc. I can do basic math but that's it.

So, anyway, supergroomer's original recipe called for 1.3 ounces of beeswax for 3 cups of oil and my first mistake was measuring it by volume rather than by weight. My second mistake was counting it in ounces and not converting it to grams so Mr. Google says that 1.3 ounces = 37 grams (roughly) and I now know that there's no way I added 37 grams of beeswax to the oil mixture, which leads me to my third mistake -- when trying to fix my mistake, I took Magnus' advice below under advisement and started adding more beeswax in small quantities to get it to work but Felonious just measured the 300 gram bar of beeswax I bought and found out, it's now at 275 grams so therefore, I've only added 25 grams of the 37 grams I was supposed to add. We've now realized that I screwed up the measuring so have now added the additional 12 grams to bring the total to 37 grams, which is where we were supposed to be all along.

My third mistake is that when I thought I was adding the correct amount, I was ignoring the decimal and therefore 1.5 grams became 15 grams so I thought I was adding the correct amount when in fact, it was way too little.



Oh well, hopefully it will all come together now that I think I know what I'm doing. I'll keep you posted.

Thank you, Cannafan.

Well, it looks like I got the measurement of beeswax right for the most part. I guess I'll try to be patient to see if thickens at all but what if it doesn't? What should I do then? If I had a roll-on container, I could probably use it that way.

I had a really painful week and was dripping the cannaoil I made for ingesting purposes on my fingers so that's why I decided to make the cream. If worse comes to worse, I'll just use this new oil similarly. I'll just have to make sure I don't confuse it with the internal meds.

HELP!

Okay, now that I've got your attention (I hope). I decided to adapt supergroomer's pain cream recipe for me. Here's the recipe that I used:

Ingredients:

1.3 ounces grated beeswax
10g ground decarbed Hash Plant
18 oz sweet almond oil
3 to 6 drops Wild Orange essential oil
1 tsp liquid sunflower lecithin

Instructions:

1. Add your grated beeswax and 1 cup (8 oz.) uninfused sweet almond oil to your crockpot. Stir every so often until the wax has melted.

2. In a separate crockpot, prepare your infused oil.

3. Add 10 ounces sweet almond oil to second crockpot along with the decarbed herb (Hash Plant). Stir until plant material is covered with the oil and leave it for about 2 hours, stirring every so often.

4. When infused oil is done, strain the oil using a piece of cheesecloth secured to a bowl with a rubber band.

5. Add the infused oil to the waxy oil and mix thoroughly.

6. Add the essential oil (if never done before, start small and next time you can add more if desired).

7. Stir again.

8. Pour finished product into a glass container.


NOTES:

I probably should have documented it with photos but I forgot.

These two websites helped me with the essential oil dose and measuring the beeswax:

Essential Oil Dilutions & Conversions Guide

Measuring Beeswax



And, here is supergroomer's recipe as a reminder:




Except mine isn't creamy at all. It looks like this (it was done more than 2 hours ago):

Any suggestions? Was the 1.3 oz of beeswax accurate? Can I add more beeswax now and reheat? If yes, how much should I add and how much is 1.3 oz exactly (what does 1.3 oz look like?)? Is that like between 1/8 and 1/4 cup of grated beeswax or was it supposed to be weighed first although the link I posted about beeswax said that beeswax measurements are actually equal whether measuring by weight or by volume. I measured mine by volume.

 

[HashGirl]

Radogast. My tolerance has never been very high but I quite enjoy the euphoric high and look forward to getting it at least once per week but since I started using canna-infused oil for all my medical needs, I haven't been able to get high the way I used to. For example, one of my highs was eating 3/4 of a gram of melted hashish mixed with peanut butter and chocolate sauce and that would get me blasted for hours (8 or so) but now, I only get a little bit high and definitely not for 8 hours.

When I'm aiming for that euphoric high, it's not for the medicinal properties so much as just the fun factor and I just want it again so although I'm a little afraid of getting too high which could cause me to feel anxious, I think I need to try to up my dose because I miss the euphoria.

As for switching up my medications, I use two different oils -- one for nighttime and one for daytime each using different strains. The strains I want to get high with don't include either of them so I don't know why that would be a factor.

Why would you be afraid to up your dose of cannabis?

It's not toxic.

I can see the need to avoid a dosage where you lose your s^h^i^t, but if your tolerance is high, that's not really an issue. Getting super-stoned is not going to reduce the medicinal value of the cannabis. I've never heard of increased usage developing a medicinal tolerance, just a euphoria tolerance.

One way to lower your tolerance is to switch strains, (another is to take a lolerance break, but that's not recommended if you need cannabis as medicine. )

 

[HashGirl]

Cannoisseuras - I know that SweetSue uses something for her psoriasis that's working. You might want to touch base with her and I also believe that she found out the hard way that grapeseed oil (I think she said grapeseed) actually made it worse.

Good morning everyone. Sorry to hear about that anniversary magnas I hope you feel better.

I was just checking in to see if anyone has any experience using cannalotion or cannaoil to help extreme eczema? And if so what would be the recomended recipe?

Thanks in advance. Hope you all have a blessed day

anything that occurs in nature cannot be unnatural!
The Birth & Evolution Of A Dragon

Unknown Strain From Seed - First Time Grow

 

[Magnus8]

HashGirl,

I think it depends upon what your expectations are.

If you think that a "cream" is going to be a white, fluffy cream-like product that smooths on and doesn't run at all down your skin when you apply it, then you are actually thinking of a "lotion."

A "cream, (or butter)" in lotioncrafting temrs is closer to what you have, although I do find it a bit runny. You might think about adding some hard butter to this concoction, such as cocoa butter or maybe shea butter (though cocoa butter is the harder of the two). If you choose to use Cocoa Butter, be a bit careful how much you add because it can get a bit oily, moreso than Grapeseed Oil or some of our other oils we have spoken about in here.

A hard oil will be hard at room temperature, thereby hardening your formulation up significantly, much like beeswax without the added waxiness. This is what I would suggest you think about doing, unless you just want to add more beeswax and risk the increased waxiness of your formulation. Waxiness is not a bad thing, per se, but it does feel strange to some people, which I why I usually counter to use a maximum of 8% beeswax to a formulation. But those would be my suggestions.

Either more beeswax. Or an addition of cocoa butter to the concoction.

And let me tell you one thing: Cocoa butter smells like you've gone to heaven. Ask Cannafan about that! I know she loves it. (I do too.)

 

[Magnus8]

Cannoisseuras - I know that SweetSue uses something for her psoriasis that's working. You might want to touch base with her and I also believe that she found out the hard way that grapeseed oil (I think she said grapeseed) actually made it worse.

It's just that psoriasis and eczema are two very different skin conditions and need to be treated with different concoctions. The best thing that Cannoisseuras can do is to go online and research which oils might be of value to dealing with an eczema problem, and to bring that information back here so we may be able to help him from there. I'm not trying to diss you, HashGirl, it is just important when dealing with skin conditions not to confuse or conflate them, so that we don't begin to consider that any concoction will deal with all ailments.

On the other hand, SweetSue may have come across information while researching her psoriasis issue about how to treat other skin ailments such as eczema. If that is the case, then she may be of some service in this issue. Hell, SweetSue is almost ALWAYS of some use in dealing with ANY issue I find, don't you?