LKV 420 Outdoor Grow Journal 2022
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I’m in Marin county on the bay. We had light rain this morning and frequently we had some in the middle of the night I’m closer to the coast so we can get heavy wet fog. When I wake up in the morning and go check on my garden everything is soaked with heavy dew. Which is causing but rot. Fred show me pics of yours!
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Due to the shorter days I get sun on my plants from about 11 AM to 4 PM from constantly dragging them from one into the other to the otherIt's great if you can cover them in the rain, but I was thinking more about the cold in terms of harvest.
Unless that's it for the sun until spring, though it always seems to be shining in your pics.
6 hours of full sun is definitely helping them grow! Shake the water off of them in the morning and if you have a leaf blower I've heard that can help (not too close though).
Looking good! Another few weeks for sure. Keep them dry if you can.
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Thank you Shed! Is it too early to start plucking fan leaves? Or, Should I wait till a day before harvest?
Too early. Wait until just before harvest so the fans can soak up the sun.
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Thanks!
I just found this...Sounds about right, no?
Is it ready yet?: take on marijuana ripeness.
This is by no means meant to be the definitive guide to knowing when to chop your plant, only my views on the subject.
I'm personally of the opinion that 90% of the growers on this site (And probably in general) harvest too early. By letting the plants go a little longer you're ensuring that the've plumped as much as they're going to.
Despite popular opinion to the contrary(and don't fool yourself, the jury is still out on this one) Recent studies have shown ;contrary to what was previously believed, that THC itself (And its predecessor THC-A) are quite guilty of causing the confusion and drowsiness associated with burnout and other cannabinoids (our friend CBN, and a handful of others) to be the catalyst (along with THC) to being 'high' rather than 'baked'
Regardless, whether or not theres any substance to the aforementioned study, its easy to get the high you want.
If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe.
If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.
Notice a pattern of growing it until its ripe? Its a really good rule to live by.
OF course we have to remember that there is more to a good high than just THC. At last count there are at least 66 cannabinoids, and we don't know what most of them do.
Now alot of people will tell you that you should harvest based on the colour of your trichomes. But (again, in my opinion) that is far too simplistic and there are too many variables to make that an effective strategy. I've made that point a million times before and i'm not going to re-hash it here,(maybe just a bit) but rest assured there is more to the picture than just trich colour.
A ripe marijuana plant will be filled in, will have an amber tinge to the buds. The pistils should have browned (or orange-d) off and receded into the buds. The seed bracts should be swollen and the trichomes should be sticking straight out with bulbous ends. Also, because you're coming close to the end of plant's life cycle, the leaves should have yellowed off and started to die.
Another very important (imho) reason to let your plants mature is Terpenoid production. Terpenes are responsible for alot of the complex (And enjoyable) flavours that cannabis produces. Some of the most intense flavours are produced on the "downslope" of cannabis's life cycle. My personal experience with this first came when i was growing GH cheese. One of the plants i harvested at 8 weeks and it tasted pretty nice and had pretty dense buds. The other i grew until about 9 1/2 weeks and it had most amazing, sour, skunky, delicious taste with rock hard buds.
Here is my interpretation (and maybe exaggeration) of a scenario i see all too often:
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"I'm a new grower and i've been reading all this great information about when its time to harvest. Theres pictures and everything!! Just look at my trichs, they look nice and milky with a touch of amber just like the ones in the picture that says its harvest time now!!! So what do you think IS IT READY TO CHOP?"
Now then,
Noobs plant is 4 weeks into 12/12. Granted not all of the trichomes are that far along. And most people arent going to harvest weed that early, But my point with this is that you have to look at the big picture. Stop being so scientific and start being practical.
I'm not anti knowledge, i just cant stand these "rules" that more often than not lead people down the wrong path.
Lets cut through the bullshit and spread good information in a way that is not so absolute. Or at very least explain the growth stages of cannabis making sure to mention that the pistils should have receded back into the bud before you chop. Regardless of trichome colour.
If I could offer one piece of advice on picking the right time to harvest, it's all about watching the pistils. Not so much the colour, but the movement. They should have receded into the bud and the seed bracts should be swollen.
Trust me when I say, it is worth the excruciating wait! JUST WAIT! Then WAIT some more!
Can you tell us where you found that? Sourcing info is equally as important as the info being delivered.
What part of that post did you find most interesting?
What part of that post did you find most interesting?
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Sure I edited it bit so I would not be "outing anyone". but here is the link form Rollitup.org the part about the pistols was most interesting.Can you tell us where you found that? Sourcing info is equally as important as the info being delivered.
What part of that post did you find most interesting?
Anyone posting on an open forum shouldn't need to be protected from outing, but either way it's just one person's opinion from roll it up.
The most important thing is what part of that post you found most interesting?
The most important thing is what part of that post you found most interesting?
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"Sure I edited it bit so I would not be "outing anyone". the part about the pistols was most interesting. What do you think about it?
You're not allowed to link to other forum websites (so you should edit the links out), but I found it anyway.
Browning pistils are usually an indication that the plant is ripening, though some plants will push out white pistils forever and some will turn orange and retract weeks before the plant is ready.
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Oh thank you for that!
You should edit this one too!
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So would you say that article was a bit of fake news then just Someone going off on one of many things you need to look for?
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So here’s a question for you this plant doesn’t have any white pistols on the outside buds but if you look inside it has white ones where the light doesn’t get to them so does that mean the plant has to wait? I mean the outside ones will always be mature but if you don’t trim your plants real well the inside ones don’t mature quite as fast
Considering he posted no links to his sources, it read more like a collection of his experiences and what he's read online. Some of it was true, some of it opinion. We agree that most (outdoor) growers do harvest too early though!
Of course, the weather plays a major role in that, and folks should make sure to get seeds that have harvest months that correspond to when the weather gets bad in their neck of the woods.
The plant has to wait because it's nowhere near finished bulking. Pistils are a suggestion not a command. Outside growers will probably do best waiting until the plant stops drinking if the weather doesn't get them first..
There were only two white pistils on this bud back on Sept 13th:
But the plant is nowhere near ready for harvest, and it lives on today!
I agree with a lot of that but this in particular:
Last year I had two identical Wedding Cake plants (outdoors). The first one I harvested when there were no new white pistils coming out and all remaining were red. The second was harvested a week or two later. #2 had more swollen bracts and the sugar leaves looked slightly brownish. I thought I waited too long, but actually there was not a lot of difference between the two. The second one may have been slightly more stoney. Both were delicious.
Last year I had two identical Wedding Cake plants (outdoors). The first one I harvested when there were no new white pistils coming out and all remaining were red. The second was harvested a week or two later. #2 had more swollen bracts and the sugar leaves looked slightly brownish. I thought I waited too long, but actually there was not a lot of difference between the two. The second one may have been slightly more stoney. Both were delicious.