Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed Planted New Year's Eve During the Blue Moon

Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

well i am using a wardrobe so the doors are flimsy, on ebay there are some extra strong mags for 9.99, ima go to lowes and get the ones that are 1.50 a piece, get like 8 of them, AAAnd use the pieces of wood to make a inner ring with weatherstripping. Then get the silicone and seal the dog stuff out of it.

That sounds promising, even my new center panel still weighs roughly five pounds, maybe a little more and with nothing to support it above the ground magnets wouldn't work too well as it would just slide down and off.

I worked in a car audio shop for a while, build a spl car, wall of 4 15s, 2 RF800.1s 1/2 inch dynomat the whole car. After i was done, the v6 in the car got 9 miles to the gallon. BUT i could make a full 2liter do a complete flip off of my roof. 148.2 dbs w/ one blown sub. It still wasnt loud enough, although i did set off the motion alarms at a 30 story bank one night in the parking garage. (worked there) Cops hated me.

Used to work in one too after 4-5 years of competition (USAC mostly, dB Drag didn't come around too often)...wasn't a good choice as my hobby became my job which caused me to grow weary of it after work hours lol. My largest install was six 12's (none of these mainstream subs, can't say which company as it would be easy to figure out who I am at that point :( ) in a ported wall in a lil 4-banger sedan with a pair of 1200W amps. I built it for ground-pounding and not so much competition so I tuned it to 33Hz with no port plug for competition...heck my port was way too small for all those subs for competition purposes (I couldn't crawl inside of it :D). Still managed to pump out a 153dB legal with the stiff ass AudioControl mic that our region's organizer used. I swear it was as stiff as the Term Lab mic they use in dB Drag. It was loud enough when I first built it (damn near thought my car was gonna explode when I first cranked it up) but within two weeks I was ready for more...everything went downhill after that install.

RF wanted me to do some product testing for them after I built that system and offered me a steep discount to do so (iirc it was 50% of dealer cost, order factory direct). Sold my subs and amps, made my wish list, but when I ordered I was told that they couldn't honor that cost anymore (PM me if you want the reason, nothing to do with me) so I was basically SOL. I wound up purchasing a couple of their large Type RF amps, bridging them, running four of their batteries, and a bunch of their interconnects, and had to borrow a sub from a buddy of mine. One 15" sub in that same wall that had my 12's with 2600W RMS (under-rated according to bench tests) and a 45Hz tuning. Still pulled a 150dB legal and lost to another guy in a "shootout" for 2nd place at a regional event who was running 5 12's and 5000W in a pickup truck with a boot through the back of the cab...after showing off the system for an hour after I ran the lane in 100F+ weather and only 10 minutes to charge the batteries with a 60A alt lol. Hot voice coils, drained batts, hot alt...lost by 0.1dB :( Ah well, it was great fun!
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

Whats up Lil Neutrino? I saw tour posts in the CFL tutorial and had to check out your grow,lookin good although I only read the 1st 2 pages so far. Subscribed and will definitely catch up later. Since I haven't read all of it you might have already taken care of your light leaks, but you can get activated carbon pre filters for air purifiers ($10 to $20) and double them up and put them over your holes. They are made to flow air,block light well and clean your air! I'm a little confused about you having more intake volume than exhaust,if smell is a concern you would be better off with a negative pressure. This ensures that no air is escaping the intake vents or any other leaks you may have. You just have to be careful not to make to much of a negative pressure, as this will decrease fan life or just burn them up altogether. :peace:
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

Today was another time crunch as I overslept again...btw, Zombieland is an awesome movie. Been a long time since I've been able to watch a movie twice in a row lol. While out running some errands I found a 4-pack of some soft white 23W CFL's for $4...1600 lumens. I had one burn out within a few weeks of hooking it up last grow during flower so I needed a replacement anyway. If I can manage temps and find ways to mount them I may go back and buy another four pack and have 470W of soft whites for 31,500 lumens...and maybe toss in a few 6500K's for some mixed spectrum but same lumens? How many lumens is too many? I know I have read the sun on a cloudy day can still produce 10,000 lumens or so...I suppose it boils down to how well you can spread that light around your plants so they can best utilize it.

Whats up Lil Neutrino? I saw tour posts in the CFL tutorial and had to check out your grow,lookin good although I only read the 1st 2 pages so far. Subscribed and will definitely catch up later

Sounds good, happy to have ya pop in. I sometimes ramble a lot but I try to keep it entertaining.

Since I haven't read all of it you might have already taken care of your light leaks, but you can get activated carbon pre filters for air purifiers ($10 to $20) and double them up and put them over your holes. They are made to flow air,block light well and clean your air!

I'll have to look in to those as I have not solved the light leak problem yet. Amazingly I couldn't find window screen by the foot or yard at the hardware store, only the bulk rolls. How long do those prefilters last in your experience? I have to be careful about restricting air flow too much since the fans I am using do not handle extra static pressure (I think that's the right term) too well.

I'm a little confused about you having more intake volume than exhaust,if smell is a concern you would be better off with a negative pressure. This ensures that no air is escaping the intake vents or any other leaks you may have. You just have to be careful not to make to much of a negative pressure, as this will decrease fan life or just burn them up altogether. :peace:

Somewhere on this forum before I built my cabinet I thought I had read that having more intake vent area than exhaust helped keep a slight negative pressure. I know that having more intake vent area than exhaust vent area helps reduce noise caused by air being drawn in to the cabinet as it reduces the intake air velocity. So long as my exhaust volume flow (rated 220CFM, even at 75% of that is still plent of air exchange) is high enough and I can filter the odor from the air I shouldn't have to worry about odor leaking out from anywhere. Or maybe I have misunderstood something...

Chandelier was partially fixed up so I could get her back up to eight 26W bulbs instead of only five...it's the same as before except there are no bulbs in the lower pieces. I left all of those disconnected/dangling and just wired up the top feeds with the Y-splitters. Running 6 6500K's and 2 2700K's until tomorrow when I can finish fixing it. Cut up the remaining 8" of PVC I had in to four equal pieces and slapped it together with good results. Maybe the hardware store has some scrap pieces of PVC I can just have...doubt it though, I don't think they cut PVC there.
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

I'm not sure how long the prefilters last, The manufacturers recommend anywhere from 3mo. to a year but they are cheap and if its just for the light leaks I guess it would last indefinitely. I have read both ways about pressures i grow areas, but the info I got was from a friend who does heating and a/c (he knows his shit) so I trust that I am correct. Having said that, I would hate to try to steer someone in the wrong direction so if your not sure and think it's important I would research more. It's probably not critical and if there is a filter at both ends I don't see that it would really matter as long as there is enough flow. :peace:

P.S. I like to read journals where people ramble, It gives me a chance to get new insights and see the reasoning behind peoples setups.:nicethread:
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

Hey brother grower....looking good...that little lady is sweet...and will not be bothered by a couple leaves.....love the set up...and idea with lights looks really good...and sounds like easy fix ....:bravo: Keep Growin On
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

Thanks Tunes, I appreciate it.

Pics of her being bent over, tied down, manipulated, whatever-you-want-to-call-it yesterday...she's loving the LST'ing!

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And here's the fixed chandelier, I wound up using some threaded rod and some nuts to stabilize the distance between the two halves. This way also allows me to easily adjust this width in the future if the need ever arises. Eleven 26W CFL's, three are 2700K, and eight are 6500K. 18,700 lumens at the source.

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Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

I like the repair! And she is doing great, she forgave you quite nicely too.:yahoo:

Everything is looking great in there!

:peace: brother. +rep
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

Yea Neut you're kickin some serious ass. :welldone::thumb:..

Great light config too bro :bravo:



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Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

Still working on the reflector, or rather just started on it due to a three day migraine my gf had. I couldn't really make a lot of noise much less open the cabinet since it's in the bedroom where she hides since we've blacked out the windows and made it the darkest room in the house.

Thanks for the compliments everyone! I am still amazed at how many bud sites are going to be on her, every time I inspect her growth I seem to count more stalks developing :) I'm thinking in about a week to drop her in to flower, probably on the first as that will make it easy for me to remember how many weeks have gone by lol

Tossed the seedling the other day as after about two weeks it still had no true leaves and had not grown at all. At that pace I'd be able to put it in flower in about a year and a half and harvest in about three years after that...
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

That sucks, my wife gets them too but not that often.. I feel for ya and more for her, my sympathies..

The seedling thing happened to me on my very first grow remember I got a pinky size joint from it in about 4 months.. man, I suck. Well you grow that thing Like you did your last and you should be golden.

Take care and good luck with everything.
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

That light ended up looking really really nice bro!! :bravo:
Did you notice a large increase in light with the reflector?

Curious like a monkey! :peace:
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

Not really MH...I wasn't expecting to see much of a difference as I was/am a bit cynical as to any extra benefits from the hood except there's less light now escaping out of the back of the cab via the exhaust fans. It is SLIGHTLY brighter but I'm sure there is a large lumen loss just going from the top of the bulb to the hood and back to the underside of the bulb where the rest of the light begins its journey. I'd venture that that distance is about 6" although every little bit helps.

Btw...anyone reading this journal if you have used the following product please give me your input:

Rustoleum Reflective Finish
RustOleum.com

It's supposed to be a semi-transparent paint that increases the reflection of any lights on the objects for better visibility. I was considering spraying the underside of the reflector along with the walls if it would help.
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

Not really MH...I wasn't expecting to see much of a difference as I was/am a bit cynical as to any extra benefits from the hood except there's less light now escaping out of the back of the cab via the exhaust fans. It is SLIGHTLY brighter but I'm sure there is a large lumen loss just going from the top of the bulb to the hood and back to the underside of the bulb where the rest of the light begins its journey. I'd venture that that distance is about 6" although every little bit helps.

Btw...anyone reading this journal if you have used the following product please give me your input:

Rustoleum Reflective Finish
RustOleum.com

It's supposed to be a semi-transparent paint that increases the reflection of any lights on the objects for better visibility. I was considering spraying the underside of the reflector along with the walls if it would help.

What is the under coat on it now? The thing about growing with Cfl, I have read that the hot spots created by HID on reflective coatings like a semi-gloss is bad, I still wonder if CFL's are an exception to that theory since they are not as intense.

I have never used the rustoleoum product that you mentioned but if you use it on the cab. let us know how it works out.
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

It is spray painted with a flat white enamel made by Rustoleum...and I trimmed the edges with electrical tape to reduce the chance of accidental cuts/nicks but you can't tell since it got painted too. I would tend to agree that CFL's probably do not suffer from the same issues that HID's can induce but like you I can't say for sure.

If I do go back and buy that reflective paint I'll definitely post about it...I don't see why it would reflect headlights and not work with CFL's. But $7 a can? Curiosity will probably get the best of me lol
 
Re: Lil Neutrino's 2nd Indoor CFL - Bagseed planted New Year's Eve during the blue mo

The reflector addition is bangin Neutrino. Do you by any chance know the reflective % difference between the Rustoleum paint you're using now and the one you're considering?
 
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