KelticBlue's 2017: Soil, Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunnan

[SweetSue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

I've been testing out the Zamedelica I've been curing this way, over the last couple of days. This morning it seems to finally be at the correct humidity. It went through the grinder beautifully. This is 16 days from harvest. I laid them out on a table for about 6 hours one day in the middle and they are fluffy buds. The other plants I harvested the same day are close but still have another 3 to 4 days at least before they are ready to be capped off and shelved.

I have to check to see what I did different on this plant. This is the 3rd grow of this cut and it's always had a very acrid citric scent to it. Very pungent in mid flower. This plant smells and tastes almost dead on to bay leaves. It's nice, although I'm a bit puzzled at the extreme change. The buzz has improved over the other 2 plants I've harvested of it as well. Great energizing feeling and a numbness in the whole body, but especially the legs. Awesome as I just had another night of leg cramps last night. I'm not certain why the citric flavor is gone, but the bay leaf that is coming out now would hardly be noticable if I had hung it up like normal. This method really brings out the subtleties in flavor and smell.

The Linalool will express in one of two directions, either with one found in sweet orange or one found in bay leaves. SenseSeeds has a nice write up on terpenes. I pulled this from their site:

"Linalool is a monoterpenoid with the chemical formula C10H18O; it is found in hundreds of plant species

including mint, laurel, cinnamon, birch, and some citrus. Linalool is a chiral molecule, meaning that it has two enantiomers, or two isomers that are non-superimposable mirror images.

Bay laurel and many related herbs contain linalool, which is a known sedative, muscle relaxant and anxiolytic
The ‘left’ enantiomer is known as S-linalool, is found in coriander, palmarosa grass and sweet orange, and has a sweet, floral scent; the ‘right’ enantiomer is known as R-linalool, is found in lavender, basil and bay laurel, and has a woody, astringent aroma."

This method saves the volitle monoterpenes. When you hang to dry they evaporate quickly, losing over 30% in the first week alone.

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Agreed! For me so far drying has been the hardest part of growing.
But...
. . . .
Looks like beer fridge just turned into bud fridge!

Absolutely so true.

Hadn't thought to try a paper bag, but I bet that'd work if the bag doesn't get too damp in there. Hmmmm..... You have me thinking now.

I did the paper bag out of lack of other choice, just seemingly fit the job. it is breathable (which i caution because it can take moisture in as well as out depending what is next to it in the fridge) (possible off other gasses) but I had been using a paper bad to dry my harvest in before with a fan inside the bag so it was right there for me.

This plant smells and tastes almost dead on to bay leaves. . .

I got a strange note of something that could be Bay leaf, it is strong but I am having a hard time identifying it.

The Linalool will express in one of two directions, either with one found in sweet orange or one found in bay leaves. SenseSeeds has a nice write up on terpenes. I pulled this from their site:

"Linalool is a monoterpenoid with the chemical formula C10H18O; it is found in hundreds of plant species

including mint, laurel, cinnamon, birch, and some citrus. Linalool is a chiral molecule, meaning that it has two enantiomers, or two isomers that are non-superimposable mirror images.

Bay laurel and many related herbs contain linalool, which is a known sedative, muscle relaxant and anxiolytic Bay laurel and many related herbs contain linalool, which is a known sedative, muscle relaxant and anxiolytic
The ‘left’ enantiomer is known as S-linalool, is found in coriander, palmarosa grass and sweet orange, and has a sweet, floral scent; the ‘right’ enantiomer is known as R-linalool, is found in lavender, basil and bay laurel, and has a woody, astringent aroma.".

This method saves the volitle monoterpenes. When you hang to dry they evaporate quickly, losing over 30% in the first week alone.

Interesting about the linalool
I have to go back a have a smell It could certainly be a woody bay tree leaf, I am recalling more like fresh celery now that I think. The smell from the fresh cut in the bag was super strong for me on day 2 and 3. Certainly smells fresher than I have ever dried.

Cheers

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Things that make me think.

Anybody ever see a dome shaped grow tent indoors? There must be. I recall a round or cylindrical one. would not the lack of corners help light reflect?

Anybody ever see some one paint the top of a tent/grow room with blue sky and maybe some clouds? maybe a litte blue reflection from above like the sky?

yeah i got to go to bed again soon getting goofy

 

[Radogast]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

I've been testing out the Zamedelica I've been curing this way, over the last couple of days. This morning it seems to finally be at the correct humidity. It went through the grinder beautifully. This is 16 days from harvest. I laid them out on a table for about 6 hours one day in the middle and they are fluffy buds. The other plants I harvested the same day are close but still have another 3 to 4 days at least before they are ready to be capped off and shelved.

I have to check to see what I did different on this plant. This is the 3rd grow of this cut and it's always had a very acrid citric scent to it. Very pungent in mid flower. This plant smells and tastes almost dead on to bay leaves. It's nice, although I'm a bit puzzled at the extreme change. The buzz has improved over the other 2 plants I've harvested of it as well. Great energizing feeling and a numbness in the whole body, but especially the legs. Awesome as I just had another night of leg cramps last night. I'm not certain why the citric flavor is gone, but the bay leaf that is coming out now would hardly be noticable if I had hung it up like normal. This method really brings out the subtleties in flavor and smell.

Are you comparing Zamaldelica clones to clones, or seeds to seeds?

 

[RheinRover]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Things that make me think.

Anybody ever see a dome shaped grow tent indoors? There must be. I recall a round or cylindrical one. would not the lack of corners help light reflect?

Anybody ever see some one paint the top of a tent/grow room with blue sky and maybe some clouds? maybe a litte blue reflection from above like the sky?

yeah i got to go to bed again soon getting goofy

Hey Keltic the folks over at Secret Jardin make a couple smaller dome tents. Looks like its the "CR" series

 

[SweetSue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Dome grow tents. That's something I'd never considered. How intriguing.

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Hey Keltic the folks over at Secret Jardin make a couple smaller dome tents. Looks like its the "CR" series

Dome grow tents. That's something I'd never considered. How intriguing.

I was just spacing out thinking, like bio dome with clouds painted for sky on the roof.

I am gonna go have a loook at secret jardin, ThX RR!

 

[Morglie]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Are you comparing Zamaldelica clones to clones, or seeds to seeds?

I'm comparing grows of the same clone. I take a clone or two then put the mother into flower and veg out the clones to do it again. I've grown 2 zamadelica from seed. The other cut I grew twice plus a bubcicle. It hermied on me so I ditched the seeds on the first plant I had pollinated and stopped cloning it.

The cut I made seeds from is the one I'm referring to. I have my 4th cut of it in flower now, which will be my last grow of it. I have about 100 seeds of it pollinated by a Panama. And figured I could find something close to it if I wanted, in the seeds. It's a really floppy, airy plant, that stretches quite a bit. Not a fun plant to grow, and it's touchy. I just harvested my 3rd plant from the seeds today and I can say, they are much heartier than the mother.

Something new with this, I just posted in the low and slow thread last night. The buds I have curing have started smelling like mango. There's a very distinct fruity smell that wasn't there two days ago. I'm interested in seeing how it does after a proper cure on the shelf. I'm the only one that likes the buzz. Great clear headed, energising, and it makes my body almost weightless. The clear headedness of it is what throws people off. They are expecting the jumbled mind. I'm not sure why it's not there with zamadelica of all strains, but I find it to be an awesome day smoke and it appears to be all mine.

Peace

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

I'm the only one that likes the buzz. Great clear headed, energising, and it makes my body almost weightless. The clear headedness of it is what throws people off. They are expecting the jumbled mind. I'm not sure why it's not there with zamadelica of all strains, but I find it to be an awesome day smoke and it appears to be all mine.

Peace

awesome day smoke, sounds like a winner ! ! !

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

A couple of dried bud pics from this grow. Dried in the refrig.

Here is a small clipping from the PCK x Kali China. Shot with flash.

Here is the plant grown at the same time, in the window and in the tent depending on what was going on at the time, It hermied at first then settled down in full flower. I put it back under the lights to finish after the PCK was done.

Auto CBG x Orient Express
without flash

Then with flash

Yes I didnt trim it before drying it. It happens, skinny little leaves they are too cute.

Just for fun here is what I have going right now a triple purple rhino from docs dank seeds, a reg seed.
on May 31 about 2 days old I guess.

Then 3 days later, approx 5 days old.

Four days after the last, aprox 9 days old.

Today 12 days old, big fat leaves, tremendous. even the cotyledon, seed leafs, are growing by the minute.

 

[RheinRover]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Happy to see some new growth in your area!
Did I read somewhere you have some far red to add? I got my far red from rapid in last week. Still haven't hooked it up though. Just not sure how smart it would be starting it mid cycle.

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Happy to see some new growth in your area!
Did I read somewhere you have some far red to add? I got my far red from rapid in last week. Still haven't hooked it up though. Just not sure how smart it would be starting it mid cycle.

I got the far red puck from rapid as well, I was going to wait till flip and set it up on a serpeate timer for the last 30 min or one hour before lights go out. Put the plants to sleep time.

Did you have different plans? How are you going to use the it?

 

[RheinRover]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

I got the far red puck from rapid as well, I was going to wait till flip and set it up on a serpeate timer for the last 30 min or one hour before lights go out. Put the plants to sleep time.

Did you have different plans? How are you going to use the it?

I plan on doing the same, I just need to get my timer situation figured out. But seeing as your planning on doing a 30 min run time that might work better for my situation.

 

[SweetSue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

I got the far red puck from rapid as well, I was going to wait till flip and set it up on a serpeate timer for the last 30 min or one hour before lights go out. Put the plants to sleep time.

Did you have different plans? How are you going to use the it?

Explain to me the far red. I may consider this as an addition in my flowering tents, but I don't really understand it yet.

Sweet babies in the garden. I love a new start, don't you? I starte at those tiny things and get amaz d every time thinking of how quickly they morph into flowering beauties. The promise of sweet perfumes and sparkly leaves.

 

[RheinRover]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Explain to me the far red. I may consider this as an addition in my flowering tents, but I don't really understand it yet.

Sweet babies in the garden. I love a new start, don't you? I starte at those tiny things and get amaz d every time thinking of how quickly they morph into flowering beauties. The promise of sweet perfumes and sparkly leaves.

Hey Sue
The far red initiator helps put the plants to sleep faster. From my understanding under normal lighting conditions, once the light goes off the plant needs close to 2 hours before its totally asleep. As where with the far red it puts the plant to sleep in about 30 min. Meaning instead of 10 hours of dark during flower you're now getting close to 11.5 ( if running 12/12) So over 7 weeks of flower that nearly 74 hours of extra "sleep" to help build bigger buds.
If you search far red initiator on the tube you will see a video from GrowMau5 and he explains it really well.

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Hey Sue. Icemud did far red tests and trials. Top marks for his work. See also Emerson effect.

I got the ( growmouse) growmau5 far red puck from rapid. they had a Memorial Day sales was 30$about with the electric plug. I am traveling to my family in the south so I am not near the grow stuff. No pictures.

RR I have you to thank for the push to get a cbd vapor pen. I now have two. I have the pure that came with my oil as a package and a g slim that I got when my first pen battery didn't work.

I enjoy the cbd vapor very much so far. I am still on the tangerine flavor. I have the bubble gum and natural flavor yet to try.

 

[RheinRover]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

RR I have you to thank for the push to get a cbd vapor pen. I now have two. I have the pure that came with my oil as a package and a g slim that I got when my first pen battery didn't work.

I enjoy the cbd vapor very much so far. I am still on the tangerine flavor. I have the bubble gum and natural flavor yet to try.

This made my day Keltic! Happy to hear its working out so well for you.

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

So far so good with my vapor pen. I came south to spent the weekend at the beach, me and missus got some free time this week. So I got an cheap vape pen here, since I left mine home. It work fine but I can tell the difference between the cheaper oil cartridge. The pure spectrum oil is better.

I am gonna see how I react over time, I am not good with inhaling things mostly because I burnt my lungs on dirt weed back in the 80s and living/fighting through a forest fire one year. but i miss the process, this has brought it all back. very relaxing for me.

I am looking at maybe getting a puffco pro or similar if it works out for now a cheap pens is fine. whooot!

 

[RheinRover]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Enjoy your time on the beach! Sounds like a nice get away. That puffco looks really cool, I'll have to add it to the wish list.

I installed the far red yesterday. I have an amnesia haze that just started flower about 8 days ago and a sour diesel thats just throwing out some pre flowers. Excited to see if the far red helps move them along a little faster. Need to have all my plants done before our big holiday in August so really going to be pushing it.

 

[kelticBlue]

Re: KelticBlue's 2017 - Soil - Ace Seeds Pure Pakistan Chitral Kush x Kali China Yunn

Very good start with the far red. I am still 3-4 weeks from flower. I have been photo-documenting I will start a thread at some point. It is very bushy with big leaves. I topped it on the 15th. I want it to veg ~4 weeks after top. For now i will I just hope it is doing well with out me for this week.

I am looking forward to the far red in my tent.