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I turned the light to 75% last night. I’ve tried this in the past when switching to flower since the 6 hour light loss is considerable. The plants weren’t big or strong enough to handle the change in prior attempts. I figured since everything is firing I would give it a try. These shots are this morning

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I didn’t see any of the classic light burn flags. Normally when the light is too much the first thing that happens is the serrations all raise up and look sharp. Then mottling begins along with fluorescent coloring on newer growth, and inverted mag striping from the tips of older growth. I’ve learned what too much light looks like very well over the past couple grows and I don’t see any of the signs. We will see how they look tonight and tomorrow, we’ll know for sure by then whether the light is too much.

Being able to use 75% would really help build out massive, strong buds, I usually can only get to 75 once they’re deep into flower.
 
Hey what’s up Keffka?

I read your bonsai exposed root deal a few pages back…. totally interested in the outcome.

have been operating under the impression that weed roots love oxygen but hate exposure to light…

willing to go out on a limb here but I believe that what’s going on with fabric smart pots is not so much air pruning as it is light pruning… or perhaps combination of both.

Roots will typically penetrate sides of the grow bag but their growth is immediately stunted….. yet cover the sides of a grow bag with a light blocking layer and roots will grow on thru the fabric smart pot

I don’t think weed roots can be exposed long term unless there’s near pitch darkness and plenty of moisture available

however I’m always happy to be corrected and anxious see what you discover!!!
 
Keffka said:
It took me a good 5 minutes to figure out what Wally World was 🤣 I kept thinking about National Lampoons Vacation Wally World 😂

A wash tub or similar is about the only option.. The 10 gallon containers are larger than a milk crate and 5 gallon buckets. I had to get 21 inch risers so it’s around 18 inches in diameter. Or it may have been 18 inch risers and 16 inch diameter, either way, larger than the aforementioned stuff
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I had Mrs Gee sew me up bags that fit in milk crates😎
 
Keffka said:
I turned the light to 75% last night. I’ve tried this in the past when switching to flower since the 6 hour light loss is considerable. The plants weren’t big or strong enough to handle the change in prior attempts. I figured since everything is firing I would give it a try. These shots are this morning

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I didn’t see any of the classic light burn flags. Normally when the light is too much the first thing that happens is the serrations all raise up and look sharp. Then mottling begins along with fluorescent coloring on newer growth, and inverted mag striping from the tips of older growth. I’ve learned what too much light looks like very well over the past couple grows and I don’t see any of the signs. We will see how they look tonight and tomorrow, we’ll know for sure by then whether the light is too much.

Being able to use 75% would really help build out massive, strong buds, I usually can only get to 75 once they’re deep into flower.
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Keff you and @Jon should get a room. In a couple hours he rocked my world with some solid foundational basics on light metering and so many dots got connected.
 
The crew took the light change well so far, still no signs of stress. Tonight will be my confirmation when the lights come on.
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The smallest plant did not take the light change as well which actually works out well for pictures. Here’s a few shots of what you’ll see when the light is too much:

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In that image you can see the mottling. The leaves, and especially the tips and serrations look worn out and have an almost bumpy appearance. You can also see the tips and serrations are lightened, in this next image you can see it even better
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In that image you can see around the tips and serrations the leaf is lighter in color, almost like it’s bleaching out. That is another indicator your light is too much. What we’re seeing on this plant is the beginning stages of light burn/poison whatever you want to call it. Pretty soon those leaves will begin to feel dried out and crispy. The next step will be the new growth becoming fluorescent. You’ll also see bright green around the edges with dark green running along the veins.
 
It's nice to see the 4 take to it and have the younger one show us the typical issue Keffka! Well done!
 
StoneOtter said:
It's nice to see the 4 take to it and have the younger one show us the typical issue Keffka! Well done!
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Thanks Stone! I figured I’d keep a couple runts and do mean things to them so people could see different effects. I’ve got one plant still in a 1 gallon but it looks amazing aside from a little hungry so it’s actually being a troublemaker by growing well 😂

They’ll flower out consolation buds that will make good comparisons for the champs.
 
I dropped the light back to 50% last night.. I was seeing a few signs I didn’t like. If everyone looks good tonight I will start slowly stepping up back to 75 by doing it for 3-4 hours a day.

Here’s a few of the signs:

In this image, the top left new growth leaf tips are canted to the right slightly. If you look at the bottom of the picture you can see an almost pixelated look to the leaf serrations, they’re raised slightly.

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Here’s another shot of the serrations elevated slightly.

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You can see the serrations a bit in this image but the big thing is the middle finger leaf on the new growth in the center. You can see the middle finger is twisted slightly at an odd angle. The coloring is a bit off as well filling up the spaces between the veins while not much is going on with the tips and serrations.

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Here’s another shot of the finger tips canting in different directions instead of straight out. Another common occurrence is the coloring of the new growth looks almost circular as if a round light was hitting it directly in the center.

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Here’s a closeup of another finger leaf where its middle finger is twisted. The coloring is also bordering on fluorescent

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Here’s a shot of some mottling occurring
The finger leaf looks almost bumpy. This can happen from low magnesium or too much light. It’s definitely not low Magnesium so it’s likely the light

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I don’t like the new growth coloring right here, it’s far too fluorescent for my liking
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Here’s a shot of everyone

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They’re right on the border of being able to take the light so instead of leaving it at 50 for 30 days I’m gonna work on stepping it up
 
Everyone looking good.. Gave everyone a pruning.. I took all of the symmetrical branches/nodes off so only staggered nodes will bloom. This is my starting point for buds. Everything from this point up will be given full light unless the plants stretch higher than I anticipate.

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Gee64 said:
They are beauties Keff. Good catch on the light. This should be a grand flowering😍
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She gives off a lot of little signs the light is too much. However, they can easily be confused with other issues. I know everything else is dialed in though so it’s a lot easier to tell what’s happening, and yes, this should be an amazing flowering.

I’m gonna need to get all 5 fans going though because the size of these buds will likely create moisture headaches near the end.
 
Gee64 said:
Im lucky, Im on the opposite end of the moisture spectrum. My efforts go in to adding it, not subtracting it. 1 oscillating fan does my whole 5 x 5. I also have a 6" exhast fan for exchange. PM doesn't really exist in my indoor world luckily.
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Eh, I prefer my situation. It’s far cheaper and less work to run a couple extra fans versus trying to run humidifiers. PM indoors is just bad luck mixed with poor airflow. I think it’s a matter of being humans. We adapt to our circumstances, and even if they are crappy, they’re what we know and what we’re comfortable with which is why you like to add and I like to subtract.

I’m really more concerned with bud rot. If these colas get as big as I think they’re going to, it may be a problem. I prune throughout the grow though and have plenty of fans so I think I’ll be good
 
Getting the watering station setup.. I’m about to start going through an estimated 5-6 gallons of water every 2 days, possibly more. My RO system filters 50 gallons a day, and holds 4 gallons at any given time. I’m gonna need a reservoir for budding if I don’t want to spend most of my time lugging water back and forth. My air pumps can handle 5 gallon buckets well so I will get two 5 gallon buckets cleaned out, filled up, then I’ll run the air pumps to keep the water aerated and viable for the plants.

Since I’ll be aerating the water I’ll likely add a few special treats like dolomite lime and fish ferts in one of the 5 gallons

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Gee64 said:
The plants are spot on Keff! Nice work
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I’ll be happy once the soil has good tilth to it and I can start mulching again. Currently, it’s too difficult to mulch and make sure the soil isn’t caking. I’m contemplating mulching soon though since the soil seems to have opened up and doesn’t keep caking. The whole reason I didn’t fill the containers past 10 gallons was so I could mulch the top couple inches of space but then caking occurred so I didn’t bother.
 
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