There is still a lot of grow left. I know you can train the remaining space.
Jon's Sneak It In Auto Grow
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Ok @Hafta, here’s what I’m going with, and no more messing with the lights. And no more damn duct tape.
After your last post showing side and bottom lights, here’s my angular compromise as well as a perfect way to permanently and solidly hold them in place. If you have the extra CFM bars for your tent they come in handy.
You can still see the bases all lit up, and they’ll help with the colas as they grow as well.
What do you think? Here’s the tent and how I held the lights.
Thanks!
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One more Yoda…..
This is ChemDawg x Peanut Butter Breath. It’s a masterpiece. I especially love that the smell of the weed in the air has that bite to it that hits you in the nostrils and makes you go “whoa…”, if you know what I mean. Spectacular weed on every level. Extremely high thc.
This is ChemDawg x Peanut Butter Breath. It’s a masterpiece. I especially love that the smell of the weed in the air has that bite to it that hits you in the nostrils and makes you go “whoa…”, if you know what I mean. Spectacular weed on every level. Extremely high thc.
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Ok @Hafta, I’ve been busy today but I try to keep my word most of the time. I believe I owe you some ppfd measurements?
I just took them using my Phototone app on the iPhone 14 Plus Pro with the necessary diffuser.
1. Overhead light OFF, measuring side lights only. The @ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro is just a phenomenal light and a powerful little badass package. They are working perfectly as side lights, imo. Portability and flexibility have to be considered among their best qualities. I have them set at 50%.
- right next to each light, the leaves closest to the units are getting hit at 950-1000 ppfd.
- as I go toward the middle at top of canopy level, I reach a low point in the exact center of 370. Once past this point it starts back up towards the 1000.
So there’s our left to right.
2. Side Lights OFF, measuring overhead light only.
- this one is easy, as my light specifically does an amazing job relative to even coverage. I’m at 750 on the edges and 820 dead center.
- the light gives off almost zero heat and is designed to be as close as 6-8” from the tops (at 100% and 680 watts!) in flower, so I have room to raise if (hopefully) necessary or lower as well.
3. Both overhead light and side lights ON, measuring everything.
- Nope. Impossible. Light is coming from everywhere with two different spectrums and I’m not holding an Apogee. I don’t have any faith in any numbers.
However, that all seems pretty good to me. And observationally speaking, I don’t have a single yellow tip or the slightest sign anywhere of burning. The plants also are getting rotated, 90 degrees with the morning feeding and 90 degrees at early evening bed check. So they’re never sticking around right in front of the light for very long. One effect the lights are having for sure is a significant increase in leaf and side shoot production. I’m flabbergasted.
I’m comfortable with the light all around and at this point I don’t see any reason to change it at all. I’m just going to let everything grow up into the light from here.
Here’s a picture from overhead as high as I can get. These girls are rocking it so hard I can barely keep up with them. Then there’s a shot of the one rogue cola in the whole tent - the main cola on the Gorilla Zkittlez. There’s one in every crowd. In the pictures the side lights appear to be much more angled up than they actually are. Their actual angle is maybe 10 or 15 degrees off 90.
Thanks so much for your ongoing support on this Hafta. Note in the GZ rogue cola picture the side lights lighting her up!
I just took them using my Phototone app on the iPhone 14 Plus Pro with the necessary diffuser.
1. Overhead light OFF, measuring side lights only. The @ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro is just a phenomenal light and a powerful little badass package. They are working perfectly as side lights, imo. Portability and flexibility have to be considered among their best qualities. I have them set at 50%.
- right next to each light, the leaves closest to the units are getting hit at 950-1000 ppfd.
- as I go toward the middle at top of canopy level, I reach a low point in the exact center of 370. Once past this point it starts back up towards the 1000.
So there’s our left to right.
2. Side Lights OFF, measuring overhead light only.
- this one is easy, as my light specifically does an amazing job relative to even coverage. I’m at 750 on the edges and 820 dead center.
- the light gives off almost zero heat and is designed to be as close as 6-8” from the tops (at 100% and 680 watts!) in flower, so I have room to raise if (hopefully) necessary or lower as well.
3. Both overhead light and side lights ON, measuring everything.
- Nope. Impossible. Light is coming from everywhere with two different spectrums and I’m not holding an Apogee. I don’t have any faith in any numbers.
However, that all seems pretty good to me. And observationally speaking, I don’t have a single yellow tip or the slightest sign anywhere of burning. The plants also are getting rotated, 90 degrees with the morning feeding and 90 degrees at early evening bed check. So they’re never sticking around right in front of the light for very long. One effect the lights are having for sure is a significant increase in leaf and side shoot production. I’m flabbergasted.
I’m comfortable with the light all around and at this point I don’t see any reason to change it at all. I’m just going to let everything grow up into the light from here.
Here’s a picture from overhead as high as I can get. These girls are rocking it so hard I can barely keep up with them. Then there’s a shot of the one rogue cola in the whole tent - the main cola on the Gorilla Zkittlez. There’s one in every crowd. In the pictures the side lights appear to be much more angled up than they actually are. Their actual angle is maybe 10 or 15 degrees off 90.
Thanks so much for your ongoing support on this Hafta. Note in the GZ rogue cola picture the side lights lighting her up!
Another coffee table book photo, possibly the cover.
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Pink Rozay Day 23
Apple Fritter Day 22
Here’s the Pink Rozay. She’s so beautiful she makes me cry.
Here’s the Apple Fritter. You can see her Sombrero Quad beginning to take shape.
No idea how much veg time they’ll give me, but training as minimally as these two are it doesn’t really matter.
Happy Monday. Learn something this week. Ask questions. Heh.
Apple Fritter Day 22
Here’s the Pink Rozay. She’s so beautiful she makes me cry.
Here’s the Apple Fritter. You can see her Sombrero Quad beginning to take shape.
No idea how much veg time they’ll give me, but training as minimally as these two are it doesn’t really matter.
Happy Monday. Learn something this week. Ask questions. Heh.
FTFY.
Your plants look great. Do you feed every time you water? I am not sure how one feeds in an indoor plant.
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In soil you feed indoors the same as outside. I’m in coco. Indoors or out, with coco you feed every single time you water.
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Btw - important if you’re trying coco -
1. @Bill284 is my coco Sensei. He taught me coco start to finish.
2. Coco tends to hold onto the Calcium and Magnesium. So you also add calmag with every feed. Usually coco deficiency in my experience is related to these. It’s important, especially under LED, to keep up with it.
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One last strain from the Yoda birthday package. Anyone a ChemDawg fan? This right here is ChemDawg X. It’s the tastiest and most pungent cut of ChemDawg I’ve ever smoked. RACY. Super strong. Awesome weed.
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I forgot, he gave me this too…Sweet Tooth #3 male pollen. Heh.One last strain from the Yoda birthday package. Anyone a ChemDawg fan? This right here is ChemDawg X. It’s the tastiest and most pungent cut of ChemDawg I’ve ever smoked. RACY. Super strong. Awesome weed.
@JonOk @Hafta, I’ve been busy today but I try to keep my word most of the time. I believe I owe you some ppfd measurements?
I just took them using my Phototone app on the iPhone 14 Plus Pro with the necessary diffuser.
1. Overhead light OFF, measuring side lights only. The @ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro is just a phenomenal light and a powerful little badass package. They are working perfectly as side lights, imo. Portability and flexibility have to be considered among their best qualities. I have them set at 50%.
- right next to each light, the leaves closest to the units are getting hit at 950-1000 ppfd.
- as I go toward the middle at top of canopy level, I reach a low point in the exact center of 370. Once past this point it starts back up towards the 1000.
So there’s our left to right.
2. Side Lights OFF, measuring overhead light only.
- this one is easy, as my light specifically does an amazing job relative to even coverage. I’m at 750 on the edges and 820 dead center.
- the light gives off almost zero heat and is designed to be as close as 6-8” from the tops (at 100% and 680 watts!) in flower, so I have room to raise if (hopefully) necessary or lower as well.
3. Both overhead light and side lights ON, measuring everything.
- Nope. Impossible. Light is coming from everywhere with two different spectrums and I’m not holding an Apogee. I don’t have any faith in any numbers.
However, that all seems pretty good to me. And observationally speaking, I don’t have a single yellow tip or the slightest sign anywhere of burning. The plants also are getting rotated, 90 degrees with the morning feeding and 90 degrees at early evening bed check. So they’re never sticking around right in front of the light for very long. One effect the lights are having for sure is a significant increase in leaf and side shoot production. I’m flabbergasted.
I’m comfortable with the light all around and at this point I don’t see any reason to change it at all. I’m just going to let everything grow up into the light from here.
Here’s a picture from overhead as high as I can get. These girls are rocking it so hard I can barely keep up with them. Then there’s a shot of the one rogue cola in the whole tent - the main cola on the Gorilla Zkittlez. There’s one in every crowd. In the pictures the side lights appear to be much more angled up than they actually are. Their actual angle is maybe 10 or 15 degrees off 90.
Thanks so much for your ongoing support on this Hafta. Note in the GZ rogue cola picture the side lights lighting her up!
NICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great info. Beautiful picture of the side-lit trunk. I hope you have enough storage containers for the increased harvest.
Why would he send it with a leaf in the bag? I would think with pollen, the drier the better and the moisture in the leaf is not your friend.
I've only collected pollen once and he's obviously got it going on, so I'm curious on how he does things. Maybe it's a dry leaf intended to soak up moisture from the pollen sacs?
I've only collected pollen once and he's obviously got it going on, so I'm curious on how he does things. Maybe it's a dry leaf intended to soak up moisture from the pollen sacs?
Yeah I’m interested too - my total guess is perhaps the nature of the plant leaf is designed to naturally store the pollen if reasonably fresh? Because then in natire its primed to be spread by insects, the wind or an animal
walking past and pushing plants together?
Total speculation - no web search. I like guessing!
EDIT - maybe they’re used as applicators by the breeder keep it natural. That I may have read a while back.
Nick
In nature when the pollen sac is ready it bursts open spraying pollen in every direction. And pollen is super light so it can travel miles on the wind.
I know when curing, if a jar is a little too low in rh we can put a leaf in it to help raise the humidity a bit, so that's what caught my attention in the pic because more humidity is exactly opposite to what you want with pollen.
I know when curing, if a jar is a little too low in rh we can put a leaf in it to help raise the humidity a bit, so that's what caught my attention in the pic because more humidity is exactly opposite to what you want with pollen.
Yeah we put some trim leaf in the test tubes with the pre rolls we make for the same reason.
The tubes are a little longer and it cushions them as well providing a little more humidity is the theory.
The tubes are a little longer and it cushions them as well providing a little more humidity is the theory.
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Hmm. I don’t know. I’ll ask him. Good question.
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I use bokashi, frass, Real Growers Recharge, and mycorrhizae in my pots. The idea being the microbes produced by this either fill in or take over for when the chem nutes need some help. Emilya says all it will give me is a little, maybe as low as 1% improvement. I disagree. So that’s what I do. And I never ever flush. In coco, if you water to runoff every watering, why flush? You do it every time you water. My ash is clean white and my weed tastes great.