Jon's First Outdoor Grow: Sugar Breath Photoperiod & Strawberry Banana Autoflower

[Jon]

Trichomes in Black and White
Strawberry Lemonade
Flower Day 64

Into week 10 of flower. I love it. Today I thought I'd try something "artsy," and go with some black and white trichome shots. Never did it before, and I found to my surprise that the increase in contrast really helps you to see which of your trichomes are fully white and which still have some fillin' to do. Very cool. Check it out.

 

[Moony]

Trichomes in Black and White
Strawberry Lemonade
Flower Day 64

Into week 10 of flower. I love it. Today I thought I'd try something "artsy," and go with some black and white trichome shots. Never did it before, and I found to my surprise that the increase in contrast really helps you to see which of your trichomes are fully white and which still have some fillin' to do. Very cool. Check it out.

Oooo nice

 

[Rexer]

Trichomes in Black and White
Strawberry Lemonade
Flower Day 64

Into week 10 of flower. I love it. Today I thought I'd try something "artsy," and go with some black and white trichome shots. Never did it before, and I found to my surprise that the increase in contrast really helps you to see which of your trichomes are fully white and which still have some fillin' to do. Very cool. Check it out.

That's awesome, and a great idea!

 

[Jon]

CJS Apple Blossom
Grow Day 78
Flower Day 18

Rockin' and rollin' on day 18. Reach to the sky girls. Stack your asses off. Please. Lol.

This is the time of the grow when the plant owns me. I find the early bud development fascinating. And in this little tent at the height it's at compared to me, I've never had a better natural view. I see everything. My defoliation should be significantly more effective as a result. It's getting a little bushy underneath, I can't feel the floor fans through the top anymore, and when I look down from the top I can't see through to the floor of the tent anywhere anymore. I'm beginning to understand why so many of you choose week 3 of flower for defol, that timing is just about perfect.

Tomorrow we begin week 7 of the @Prescription Blend nutes.

The @NextLight 420h might be THE perfect light for a 3x3. And the sensitivity of the dimmer continues to impress me. I can't tell you how much of an advantage that is. I can literally change my ppfd by 10 points using the dimmer. I can't even do that on my $1300 light. Talk about a light that allows you to dial it the F--- in, wow.

Thanks, sponsors!

Here's our intrepid girl this morning at wakeup. Note that she begins the day in prayer at a 45 degree angle. We dig that.

 

[stinker]

Nice canopy Jon.

 

[Jon]

Nice canopy Jon.

Why thank you @stinker!

 

[Moony]

CJS Apple Blossom
Grow Day 78
Flower Day 18

Rockin' and rollin' on day 18. Reach to the sky girls. Stack your asses off. Please. Lol.

This is the time of the grow when the plant owns me. I find the early bud development fascinating. And in this little tent at the height it's at compared to me, I've never had a better natural view. I see everything.

Welcome to my world Mr Jon hehe. I may bang my head alot but it's nice looking down at the ladies hehe

My defoliation should be significantly more effective as a result. It's getting a little bushy underneath, I can't feel the floor fans through the top anymore, and when I look down from the top I can't see through to the floor of the tent anywhere anymore. I'm beginning to understand why so many of you choose week 3 of flower for defol, that timing is just about perfect.

Yeah man! Get those skirts cleaned up!

Tomorrow we begin week 7 of the @Prescription Blend nutes.

The @NextLight 420h might be THE perfect light for a 3x3. And the sensitivity of the dimmer continues to impress me. I can't tell you how much of an advantage that is. I can literally change my ppfd by 10 points using the dimmer. I can't even do that on my $1300 light. Talk about a light that allows you to dial it the F--- in, wow.

Thanks, sponsors!

Here's our intrepid girl this morning at wakeup. Note that she begins the day in prayer at a 45 degree angle. We dig that.

Looking perfect dude. Going to stack up nicely! The groundwork has been laid now

 

[Jon]

Hopefully Humorous Sunday Post
Yes, it's grow related, lol

Ok, so you guys remember that gigantic Chunkadelic auto with the towers that grew up in the outdoor rig in the early part of this grow? If you recall, that was my highest yielding auto to date, she hit the jars at 7.3 ounces and after two weeks got re-weighed at 6.9. So a 7 ounce auto, you'd think I'd be happy as pig in poop, and indeed I was.

Then I remembered that this was the one strain I chose to have one strain around that was very low THC but tasty. Kind of like maintenance weed, for if I have to go out to the doctor, or actually edit something for my real job, or something I don't want to be too high for. All my other weed wastes me and I knew it would, so the choice here was quite deliberate.

I didn't see 7 ounces of it coming.

So here I am with 7 damn ounces of 16-18% THC weed. Um......7 ounces of weed to smoke just for taste is a bit much and not really worth the wear and tear on my lungs. The actual circumstances that would dictate it's use are rare, and any other times I would never smoke this crap. Lmao.

But smoke it I have been. I want to free up the jar it's in cuz I need it for the next plants to harvest. And I want this weed to cease to exist. I've had friends stop by to try stuff, and they all tried it, and they all leave with gifts - and I can't GIVE this weed away. I keep saying, "it tastes great though," and stuff like that. Nope. No takers. Lmao.

Well I'm not going to WASTE it. And the more I smoke that, the less I bust into the good weed. So I have been trudging away on these seven ounces since November 3rd when it hit the jars. I am SO sick of this taste. And this non-buzz. But it's really not even worth kiefing or anything else, I considered all that. I have so much crap to make butter with I didn't want to do that either. And it is pretty and it does taste good. I just hardly know any rookie smokers who might catch a buzz off it. Again and again I pack this bud up and again and again I say maybe this bud is better than the others, and other fantasies. It never is. Lol.

Here's the punchline: As of this morning I'm down to an 1/8th!!!!!! I can smoke that today, easy!!! Tonight I get a jar back and the Chunkadelic will be no more.

Maybe it has helped my tolerance get to human levels and when I smoke, say, the Blueberry in a week or so to check it out it'll put me in outer space.

A man can dream.

 

[Jon]

Welcome to my world Mr Jon hehe. I may bang my head alot but it's nice looking down at the ladies hehe

Yeah man! Get those skirts cleaned up!

Looking perfect dude. Going to stack up nicely! The groundwork has been laid now

Muchas Gracias, @Moony!

 

[Moony]

Hopefully Humorous Sunday Post
Yes, it's grow related, lol

Ok, so you guys remember that gigantic Chunkadelic auto with the towers that grew up in the outdoor rig in the early part of this grow? If you recall, that was my highest yielding auto to date, she hit the jars at 7.3 ounces and after two weeks got re-weighed at 6.9. So a 7 ounce auto, you'd think I'd be happy as pig in poop, and indeed I was.

Then I remembered that this was the one strain I chose to have one strain around that was very low THC but tasty. Kind of like maintenance weed, for if I have to go out to the doctor, or actually edit something for my real job, or something I don't want to be too high for. All my other weed wastes me and I knew it would, so the choice here was quite deliberate.

I didn't see 7 ounces of it coming.

So here I am with 7 damn ounces of 16-18% THC weed. Um......7 ounces of weed to smoke just for taste is a bit much and not really worth the wear and tear on my lungs. The actual circumstances that would dictate it's use are rare, and any other times I would never smoke this crap. Lmao.

But smoke it I have been. I want to free up the jar it's in cuz I need it for the next plants to harvest. And I want this weed to cease to exist. I've had friends stop by to try stuff, and they all tried it, and they all leave with gifts - and I can't GIVE this weed away. I keep saying, "it tastes great though," and stuff like that. Nope. No takers. Lmao.

Well I'm not going to WASTE it. And the more I smoke that, the less I bust into the good weed. So I have been trudging away on these seven ounces since November 3rd when it hit the jars. I am SO sick of this taste. And this non-buzz. But it's really not even worth kiefing or anything else, I considered all that. I have so much crap to make butter with I didn't want to do that either. And it is pretty and it does taste good. I just hardly know any rookie smokers who might catch a buzz off it. Again and again I pack this bud up and again and again I say maybe this bud is better than the others, and other fantasies. It never is. Lol.

Here's the punchline: As of this morning I'm down to an 1/8th!!!!!! I can smoke that today, easy!!! Tonight I get a jar back and the Chunkadelic will be no more.

Maybe it has helped my tolerance get to human levels and when I smoke, say, the Blueberry in a week or so to check it out it'll put me in outer space.

A man can dream.

Sounds like it's time for you to treat yourself to a fancy hot press Mr Jon!

Then if you get so much again you could press say half. Then have some amazing tasting concentrate that will destroy you heheh

 

[Jon]

Sounds like it's time for you to treat yourself to a fancy hot press Mr Jon!

Then if you get so much again you could press say half. Then have some amazing tasting concentrate that will destroy you heheh

It's on the list Moon, pretty near the top. I almost pulled the trigger on a 10 ton yesterday, but I'm holding out for at least a 15 ton press with a nice big thick plate. I want independent heat controls for both plates, a digital readout, and a nice wheel or something to increase the pressure, if not automatically with buttons. They're out there. Just haven't found the one I want yet. Heh.

 

[Jon]

Cocotown
Strawberry Lemonade
Flower Day 65

I keep showing the SL cuz the Dos Si Dos isn't close yet. This plant? Not ready yet. New growth everywhere. Still way fattening up. Trichs look the same as yesterday. Long finisher. I love it. And she's a colorful and frosty BEAST.

Here's a Strawberry Lemonade bud, a closeup of a bud, and a pretty branch for this Sunday day of rest. Enjoy. The branch shot is half decent.

Btw - here's the skinny from Barney's Farm on the Strawberry Lemonade:
Type: Feminized
Genetics: Strawberry x Lemon OG
Effect: Creative, Calming, Uplifted, Happy, Focused, Energetic
Outdoor Yield (g): up to 2500
Indoor Yield (g):up to 700 gr/m²
Flowering Time (days): 60 - 70
Height (cm): 120-150cm
Height Indoor (cm): 120-150cm
Height Outdoor (cm): 250cm
Indica %: 40%
Sativa %: 60%
Taste: Strawberry Lemonade, Lemon, Skunky Strawberry, Sweet
Aroma: Sweet Lemon, Earthy Strawberry, Fruity Hash
THC: 24%+

Happy Sunday!

 

[Jon]

I Had Me a Visitor Today....

Me and OMJJ.jpg

• Jon
• Feb 6, 2022

What the hell is this? Why would you post such a silly picture? Well, the reason is that this is not just any old picture of me and some dude hanging out in my garage.

It's a picture of me and @oldmanjj hanging out in my garage!!!!

He and the wife were coming down here to go to their vacation house, and since I knew he was flying and therefore empty handed, well, we couldn't have that. So once again I get to hang with my boy, which is always fun.

This is the only form of "social media" these days where I would even CONSIDER letting someone see where I live.



Sunday Funday!!!

 

[Bill284]

I Had Me a Visitor Today....

Me and OMJJ.jpg

• Jon
• Feb 6, 2022

What the hell is this? Why would you post such a silly picture? Well, the reason is that this is not just any old picture of me and some dude hanging out in my garage.

It's a picture of me and @oldmanjj hanging out in my garage!!!!

He and the wife were coming down here to go to their vacation house, and since I knew he was flying and therefore empty handed, well, we couldn't have that. So once again I get to hang with my boy, which is always fun.

This is the only form of "social media" these days where I would even CONSIDER letting someone see where I live.



Sunday Funday!!!

Awesome.
Tell them Stacey and I say hi.
I'm so happy for you Jon.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Jon]

Question for anyone who might have some insight....

Hopefully I'm not the only one out there who wonders about this and someone else can benefit if we get any responses.

So this is about humidity, specifically overnight humidity levels. Here's the brief skinny on the situation, and it's no biggie but I want to improve it if possible. I cannot ever leave the garage door open overnight here to take advantage of the perfect overnight temps, because it's like 95% humidity outdoors overnight. This is from about 3 am til about 7 am when it very quickly burns off as the sun comes out and becomes the standard here at this time, around 50% Rh outside. That presents no issues whatsoever, I can do whatever I want with that. What I'm concerned with is the four hours a day when the best I can do presently overnight (four hours of every day, maybe five sometimes) and early morning from wake up til around 7 am is mid 60s% Rh. This is cuz basically I have to give the plants the house Rh overnight, which the garage takes on when the main garage door is closed.

I would prefer to not have the plants ever get that high in flower, and certainly not for four or five hours a day if I can mitigate it.

But we're talking about the Apple Blossom only, and the 3x3 only. This has never been an issue in the 5x5. I have a dehumidifier. I have nowhere it the tent it'll fit and stand upright, which it has to because of the reservoir. Don't know of any low, rectangularly shaped dehumidifiers that would fit under the plant. I've tried every humanly possible combination related to the doors to the garage or house. I've tried just AC-ing the whole garage itself with all the doors closed. None of it works.

So two questions really I guess:

1. Do I really need to worry about RH overnight when the plants are not actively transpiring, or is an Rh in the 60s okay for that amount of time each day given most of it is during lights out? My instincts say I'm inviting mold and bud rot later in flower if I can't mitigate this, regardless of what time of day that Rh spike happens. I can and have pretty much maxed the fan game out.
2. Anyone have any non-dehumidifier and non-closing-doors-stuff methods in the bank for reducing humidity without the use of a dehumidifier?

If anyone has any thoughts on this I would greatly like to hear them. Thanks very much guys.

EDIT: I have also maxed out all forms of manipulating the exhaust fan in every possible combination with the other stuff I talked about. Nope. Part of the problem there is because I had to use a 6' fan/filter combo instead of a 4. Too big for a 3x3. Great in the day to mitigate humidity but not so much at night.

 

[Azimuth]

How about a tray full of moisture absorbing pellets like they use to soak up spills in mechanic shops? Or maybe even carbon pellets like for fish tank filters. Don't even know if that would work, but if you have those humidity levels I'm guessing you have plenty of sun during the day that could dry out the pellets for another round.

Kind of the same idea of the water jugs I rotate thru during the summer months to keep temps a bit more stable in my cabinet. The water acts like a fly wheel, absorbing heat during the day and releasing it at night. Except I rotate them down to a cool basement and bring the other set up that's been cooling for 24 hours.

Yours is a good question, though.

 

[Moony]

It's on the list Moon, pretty near the top. I almost pulled the trigger on a 10 ton yesterday, but I'm holding out for at least a 15 ton press with a nice big thick plate. I want independent heat controls for both plates, a digital readout, and a nice wheel or something to increase the pressure, if not automatically with buttons. They're out there. Just haven't found the one I want yet. Heh.

I completely understand. I'm the same. If I'm going to buy something I research and get the best I can rather than the cheaper one which doesn't do the job. They aren't cheap or I'd have one myself. I'm not crazy about concentrates or anything but it would be nice to have one to use every now and then lol

 

[Moony]

Question for anyone who might have some insight....

Hopefully I'm not the only one out there who wonders about this and someone else can benefit if we get any responses.

So this is about humidity, specifically overnight humidity levels. Here's the brief skinny on the situation, and it's no biggie but I want to improve it if possible. I cannot ever leave the garage door open overnight here to take advantage of the perfect overnight temps, because it's like 95% humidity outdoors overnight. This is from about 3 am til about 7 am when it very quickly burns off as the sun comes out and becomes the standard here at this time, around 50% Rh outside. That presents no issues whatsoever, I can do whatever I want with that. What I'm concerned with is the four hours a day when the best I can do presently overnight (four hours of every day, maybe five sometimes) and early morning from wake up til around 7 am is mid 60s% Rh. This is cuz basically I have to give the plants the house Rh overnight, which the garage takes on when the main garage door is closed.

I would prefer to not have the plants ever get that high in flower, and certainly not for four or five hours a day if I can mitigate it.

But we're talking about the Apple Blossom only, and the 3x3 only. This has never been an issue in the 5x5. I have a dehumidifier. I have nowhere it the tent it'll fit and stand upright, which it has to because of the reservoir. Don't know of any low, rectangularly shaped dehumidifiers that would fit under the plant. I've tried every humanly possible combination related to the doors to the garage or house. I've tried just AC-ing the whole garage itself with all the doors closed. None of it works.

So two questions really I guess:

1. Do I really need to worry about RH overnight when the plants are not actively transpiring, or is an Rh in the 60s okay for that amount of time each day given most of it is during lights out? My instincts say I'm inviting mold and bud rot later in flower if I can't mitigate this, regardless of what time of day that Rh spike happens. I can and have pretty much maxed the fan game out.
2. Anyone have any non-dehumidifier and non-closing-doors-stuff methods in the bank for reducing humidity without the use of a dehumidifier?

If anyone has any thoughts on this I would greatly like to hear them. Thanks very much guys.

EDIT: I have also maxed out all forms of manipulating the exhaust fan in every possible combination with the other stuff I talked about. Nope. Part of the problem there is because I had to use a 6' fan/filter combo instead of a 4. Too big for a 3x3. Great in the day to mitigate humidity but not so much at night.

Hey Jon could you benefit from lower temps in the room?

You could get a mobile air conditioning unit. If you get a 12000btu unit they will dehumidify too. Then instead of pulling from outside you can pull from inside. The units aren't cheap but you won't be running it 24/7 so it's not too bad. Guaranteed to work.

My humidity was going into the 60s when lights are off. I found raising the temp fixed it. But before I did I had morning dew on my damn leaves. You might not think 60 is high but it is for buds. Below 55% guarantees no mold or rot but the higher t gets the more likely.

Or if you get a unit like this one then you can vent the cool dry air direct to the tent.

I seems like the only way to deal with this is to raise temps to 27+ or to use equipment to remove the moisture.

Don't waste money on tiny dehumidifiers. The 500ml etc ones don't work. They are made for kitchen cupboards and can't handle the plants/watering etc.

The moisture control pellets etc are basically useless. They absorb relatively high moisture for their size but again can't touch the grow room moisture. Your best bet is vent outside and pull from in the room but outside the tents. Then you can control the humidity in that room. A large dehumidifier with some serious power shouldn't have an issue with this.


Let me know what ya think? I've been eyeing up the air conditioning unit. But it would be for my summer and I'd need to run basically 12 hours a day. At 1200-1600 watt... Air conditioners cost alot.

So I decided I'm just going to shut down. It would cost me more than the amount of weed I'd ever produce to run the air conditioner and plants lights fans etc.

 

[Moony]

I Had Me a Visitor Today....

Me and OMJJ.jpg

• Jon
• Feb 6, 2022

What the hell is this? Why would you post such a silly picture? Well, the reason is that this is not just any old picture of me and some dude hanging out in my garage.

It's a picture of me and @oldmanjj hanging out in my garage!!!!

He and the wife were coming down here to go to their vacation house, and since I knew he was flying and therefore empty handed, well, we couldn't have that. So once again I get to hang with my boy, which is always fun.

This is the only form of "social media" these days where I would even CONSIDER letting someone see where I live.



Sunday Funday!!!

Hehe you legend Jon bet @oldmanjj was very happy to pay a visit!

Btw is that Mac's Ass pounder 4000 bike I see in the foreground? Hahahah (if ya get the reference you will laugh) hehe

 

[Jon]

Hey Jon could you benefit from lower temps in the room?

You could get a mobile air conditioning unit. If you get a 12000btu unit they will dehumidify too. Then instead of pulling from outside you can pull from inside. The units aren't cheap but you won't be running it 24/7 so it's not too bad. Guaranteed to work.

My humidity was going into the 60s when lights are off. I found raising the temp fixed it. But before I did I had morning dew on my damn leaves. You might not think 60 is high but it is for buds. Below 55% guarantees no mold or rot but the higher t gets the more likely.

Or if you get a unit like this one then you can vent the cool dry air direct to the tent.

I seems like the only way to deal with this is to raise temps to 27+ or to use equipment to remove the moisture.

Don't waste money on tiny dehumidifiers. The 500ml etc ones don't work. They are made for kitchen cupboards and can't handle the plants/watering etc.

The moisture control pellets etc are basically useless. They absorb relatively high moisture for their size but again can't touch the grow room moisture. Your best bet is vent outside and pull from in the room but outside the tents. Then you can control the humidity in that room. A large dehumidifier with some serious power shouldn't have an issue with this.


Let me know what ya think? I've been eyeing up the air conditioning unit. But it would be for my summer and I'd need to run basically 12 hours a day. At 1200-1600 watt... Air conditioners cost alot.

So I decided I'm just going to shut down. It would cost me more than the amount of weed I'd ever produce to run the air conditioner and plants lights fans etc.

Thought about this Moon, and 12,000 btu is exactly what is needed. I don't have the coin.