Jon's First Outdoor Grow: Sugar Breath Photoperiod & Strawberry Banana Autoflower

[Moony]

Ok @Bill284, this already crappy day has decided to get worse, and now my skills are really going to be tested.

Circumstances dictate that the coco plants finish up in my tent - they can no longer be outside. I don't wanna go into it.

Yeah, I know. It blows. So right now I am in process of cleaning out the tent and resetting it for plants, not drying. My Ghost Train Haze is in long pre cure and in a bucket, so relocating that is no problem. I trimmed the Slurricane, it's gone, and I'm half done the Hulkberry and it's no longer hanging. So all I have to do is relocate the Raspberry Parfait buds that still need a few days. I can relocate them to my closet drying setup, which is going to have to double for the drying location for the PUC and all the autos too, as now the tent is going to be dedicated longer than any of them will live. Of course I have to completely take out and clean the floor liner and floor underneath that when I'm done before I put any more plants back. Then reset fans. Yada yada. BIG pain in the arse.

But okay, it is what it is. The tent is 9 feet tall cuz I got the extender kit, and the light can go as high as the bottom of the bars being at 8'6". The plants on my shortest risers are around 6 feet tall, maybe a little more, but none are 7 by a good margin. So we have about a foot and a half of space to play with. And they can go as close to my light as 6 inches. So that means we have one foot of available space for these plants, give or take.

All I can say to that is that they had best be done stretching by tomorrow morning, 10 days into it, because at first light they go into the tent, which I'll finish setting up now. So what time am I going to start their 12 hour damn tent day? I'm thinking, since I see it every day, that 7 would be too late, and 6 too early. It's basically still completely dark at six but then it comes on fairly quickly. So I was thinking 6:30 am to 6:30 pm. Think that's as close as I can get to what they have right now.

How bad is it going to be with them changing light source in such a dramatic way exactly 10 goddamn days into flower? I can't imagine worse timing to do this. ARRRGH. Not to mention I was LOVING them in the sun and so were they. Bye giant buds. Hello average sized buds. Damnit.

Forget the uppotting, obviously if all three were up potted to fives, even if I could do that, it would completely overgrow the tent. It's going to be bad enough as they are, but I believe I can make it work.

My primary concern is the change in light, and potentially any minor change in their light cycle. I have no idea at what point in between 6 and 7 they begin to get hit with enough photons that it signals that ok, we're awake now. It's a total guess. Well, not total, I watch it every day but never have I looked at a clock to know the starting time, I only worry about, ok, sun is direct now, time to move them to a better spot. But by then they are well into their light day for sure, that's not until like 7:30 or 8.

The change in light source is killing me.

Thoughts? Anything else you can think of I should do? No WAY am I killing these plants. No WAY am I letting them lose any of what they have going on. I know my light well, I feel fairly confident I can dial that in. But only a foot man, I don't know....

Guess we'll see. Goddamnit.

Hi Jon. I know you asked bill but I may be able to help.

Don't panick you have loads of space and you are still early enough into flower that it shouldn't be an issue.

Try your best to match the 12 hour cycle to whatever your daylight is as best you can.

Next if the height is worrying you, you can do some training and spread the girls out. I'd start by tieing the sides and tops down place them near the centre of your tent and spread them out to the sides and edges.

Day 10 of flower is actually not a bad time to be doing this sort of thing. It's not so late that it will cause too much stress and enough time that training can and should be done.

It's not ideal but getting stressed wont help but smoking the bud in 9 week will

I there's anything I can do feel free to ask and I'll throw my 2 pence in and see if I can help.

Sending positive thoughts from across the pond.

 

[InTheShed]

Well I'm glad things improved from the first post to the second! I'd say extend the dark time until the next lights on to get them in sync with the new schedule.

 

[Jon]

Nope, @Bill284, screw all that noise. I just realized what must be done. If nothing else, I can keep their environment the same. I can put them into the Mars Hydro rig and relocate the autos into my tent. I could get that done tonight as they stay up till 1 am. Easy. Then let the cocos bud in the MH rig, which is ten feet tall a bit more actually. They'll fit in there no problem, can grow all they want, and they get to keep the outdoor environment, so we're not drastically changing light source AND environment. That was really going to suck. I feel better already, glad I thought of that. The autos are already under LED, all it will be to them is a light upgrade and an environmental change, but they're autos. If it makes any of them hermie I'll eat my hat. Specially since they're already in their last three weeks or so. It's so obvious I wish I hadn't wasted all that time on the previous post. Lol. Ok, gotta go to work again.

Nope that ain't gonna work either. Just tested it. Won't give me a solid light seal with blankets for walls and wind and all that garbage. Rig wasn't designed for that. I'm not taking a chance on them getting light in the dark. I'd rather go the tent route where I know the setup is solid. They'll either adapt or they won't. I have the tent cleaned and reset, in the morning I'll put in the plants, tent day one. FML.

 

[Bill284]

Nope, @Bill284, screw all that noise. I just realized what must be done. If nothing else, I can keep their environment the same. I can put them into the Mars Hydro rig and relocate the autos into my tent. I could get that done tonight as they stay up till 1 am. Easy. Then let the cocos bud in the MH rig, which is ten feet tall a bit more actually. They'll fit in there no problem, can grow all they want, and they get to keep the outdoor environment, so we're not drastically changing light source AND environment. That was really going to suck. I feel better already, glad I thought of that. The autos are already under LED, all it will be to them is a light upgrade and an environmental change, but they're autos. If it makes any of them hermie I'll eat my hat. Specially since they're already in their last three weeks or so. It's so obvious I wish I hadn't wasted all that time on the previous post. Lol. Ok, gotta go to work again.

Well I'm glad that's sorted out.
Moving is a pain in the tucas isn't it.
Keep up the good work Amigo.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Jon]

Ok, @Bill284, I told you I was in work mode. This is gonna have to do for the new home for the coco girls. They could do worse.

Here's the before picture. I'll send you an after in a bit.

 

[StoneOtter]

 

[Jon]

Ok, BIG Changes Post #1
The Death of the Infidel
Chocolope is now a House Plant

I'm pulling the plug on the Chocolope. No, I don't want to. Yes, I find it amusing and curious and really would like to see what happens with her. But I ain't wasting the time, care, attention, and nutes on this plant just to watch a mutant grow and harvest an eighth. I have enough to do. So reluctantly I am eliminating Chocolope from this grow. Bye Chocolope. But we won't say RIP, as she is being repurposed as my newest house plant. Lol. That's about all she is anyway.

So here's the mutant, having more issues than a dyslexic who has spent all day wondering if there's a doG and why people so often ask that question. Sayonara.

 

[Jon]

Big Changes Post #2
Coco Photos are no Longer Outdoor Plants
New Digs
Plus a Public Service Announcement

PSA:

I'm starting with the PSA. This is primarily aimed at anyone who may read this who is newish to the site. I'm doing it cuz I feel it's the right thing to do, and because I figure if I didn't know, there is likely another newish person who also doesn't know. I'm going to say some things that are patently obvious, or should be, so forgive the "duh we all know this" list - at worst it's a good reminder. I was not asked to do this by mods.

So who the hell am I to post a public service announcement? Well, I'm the guy who had a long conversation with a mod this morning. Not A mod, THE mod. When you get messaged by the founder, you would be well served to read that message closely and listen to it carefully. If it's there because you messed up, as in my case, it's often Teddy mail. This was a bit more direct. Bottom line is I screwed up. Whether or not it was an innocent or altruistically based screwup, it was most importantly a completely, 100%, no holds barred screw up. The kind you don't want to make.

While I sit out my penance and thank my lucky stars that the people who run this site for us are so damn cool, I cannot respond to any messages if anyone asks me something there. Emojis only for a bit. Small price to pay for the transgression. So here's a few things that I am going to keep in mind and are perhaps things that one would be well served to add to their base knowledge about this site:\

- This site represents a 30 year's worth of life work and is taken as seriously as that warrants
- The people who moderate us here have a trillion things to worry about, including any screw ups that could land someone in a small room for a spell
- They do an amazing job. On every level. Including making sure nobody is doing anything that could potentially bring negative repercussions to the mods or founder. I failed to take into consideration that one of our PRIMARY concerns when we post or message anything, is to ALWAYS keep the integrity and safety and LEGALITY of the site pristine. Doesn't matter where it is posted.
- There are many ways one can compromise the integrity of the site due to simple ignorance and not knowing the rules. I would suggest that one is well served to read the stuff in the beginning about the parameters of the site, and if you have any questions after that, ask a mod. They will always clarify and tell you the real deal.
- Sharing of or asking for personal info of other members, such as addresses, is significantly frowned upon. Don't do this. Simple as that.
- If you're dumb enough to do it anyway, get a gentle talk about it, then go back and try to "stealthify" your thing to make it acceptable, well, trust me when I tell you that's a really bad idea too.
- One more thing - if you ever write a strain review, where and how you came by the strain you are reviewing is the very last information you want to include. Just don't. Nobody cares about that and it only invites trouble, trust me.

Ok, PSA complete. Thanks guys.

On to BIG changes.

The three coco photos can no longer live outside due to circumstances non-grow related I cannot control. So I had to do a little rearranging. The coco girls are now in the Gorilla tent under my primary light. They are going to finish out their lives (the rest of flower, today is day 11 of flower) as you see them in the pictures. This was my best and only option.

I put them on 12/12 beginning at 6:30 this morning. Close as I could get to the sun cycle they were on. I'm sure it was close enough that it won't be an issue. Lol. He said "sure." As if. Their environment is going to easily be very close to the outdoor environment as I control that and have already achieved that. They're in the mid 70s and have amazing air flow, with a dedicated fan for each plant as well as three corner fans on the floor blowing air up. They aren't too terribly crowded in there at the moment. That is going to change. But from the looks of it I will be able to control that no problem. So the overcrowding concern is also off the list. Yay. Thought it would be much worse.

If I have to raise the light from it's current position I have 16" to play with. They're on day 11 of the stretch. The available distance till too close to the light is also off the list of concerns now that I have the girls in there and I see what's what.

So my main and pretty much only concern now is the change of light source from sun to LED. I'm concerned that the stress this causes the plant may hermify it. A concern I've seen and read echoed here and all over the net over and over - that any major stress on the plant can potentially make it go hermie. So the light change is a big concern as that's the biggest and most stress inducing change in play in this situation.

But is it really? I started thinking about it. Can one single grower on this site show me one single scientific study, one white paper, one numbers based document of any kind that proves that going from sun to LED is something that will stress the plant out? Can anyone prove that to me with science?

I don't believe anyone can, because I don't believe such a thing exists. I think we all ASSUME something like going from sun to LED (or any light source change) will cause the plant stress. Just as I once assumed incorrectly that up potting caused the plant stress, only to find that if it's done right, it absolutely does not. Why would it cause the plant stress, logically? Just cuz the change? I'm not sure I buy it. So I am going to check these girls religiously (as if I don't already, lol) for a week or two and watch closely for any testicles developing. We all know what happens to any plant that may suffer that fate. But I'm going to bet on the girls and say they look around, get comfortable, and laugh at me.

Now that the stress and immediacy is out of play I feel much better. We'll see what happens. And Rob is one cool Mahatma Ghandi.

So that's it. Pictures below of the new digs. So we'll have a tent in a journal with "First Outdoor Grow" in the title. Lol. Well, at least the PUC is finishing outdoors for her last couple days. LOL. And thanks for the indulgence on the PSA guys.

1. The girls at home in the Gorilla tent.
2. Proximity to the light of the tallest plant taken with my phone touching the light, ie, light level picture
3-6: These are a four photo right to left montage showing the back corners and back middle of the tent. This is where two plants share space (had to choose one to have the most space, I chose the Blueberry because she's the only topped plant and will need the most space, also she's the tallest). So they begin in the back right corner of the tent and then proceed across the middle to the back left corner. I wanted to show you where the girth of the plants takes them and how crowded or not we are in the worst spots. NOT BAD AT ALL. I can live with this no problem and affect it if I choose.

So what do you think sensei? I mean @Bill284....

 

[StoneOtter]

Respect for your decision to hold the Mag's needs higher than our short term ones. The Mag and We don't exist without each other, I trust Rob's judgement to protect us both. I apologise for not seeing this coming.

 

[Bill284]

Big Changes Post #2
Coco Photos are no Longer Outdoor Plants
New Digs
Plus a Public Service Announcement

PSA:

I'm starting with the PSA. This is primarily aimed at anyone who may read this who is newish to the site. I'm doing it cuz I feel it's the right thing to do, and because I figure if I didn't know, there is likely another newish person who also doesn't know. I'm going to say some things that are patently obvious, or should be, so forgive the "duh we all know this" list - at worst it's a good reminder. I was not asked to do this by mods.

So who the hell am I to post a public service announcement? Well, I'm the guy who had a long conversation with a mod this morning. Not A mod, THE mod. When you get messaged by the founder, you would be well served to read that message closely and listen to it carefully. If it's there because you messed up, as in my case, it's often Teddy mail. This was a bit more direct. Bottom line is I screwed up. Whether or not it was an innocent or altruistically based screwup, it was most importantly a completely, 100%, no holds barred screw up. The kind you don't want to make.

While I sit out my penance and thank my lucky stars that the people who run this site for us are so damn cool, I cannot respond to any messages if anyone asks me something there. Emojis only for a bit. Small price to pay for the transgression. So here's a few things that I am going to keep in mind and are perhaps things that one would be well served to add to their base knowledge about this site:\

- This site represents a 30 year's worth of life work and is taken as seriously as that warrants
- The people who moderate us here have a trillion things to worry about, including any screw ups that could land someone in a small room for a spell
- They do an amazing job. On every level. Including making sure nobody is doing anything that could potentially bring negative repercussions to the mods or founder. I failed to take into consideration that one of our PRIMARY concerns when we post or message anything, is to ALWAYS keep the integrity and safety and LEGALITY of the site pristine. Doesn't matter where it is posted.
- There are many ways one can compromise the integrity of the site due to simple ignorance and not knowing the rules. I would suggest that one is well served to read the stuff in the beginning about the parameters of the site, and if you have any questions after that, ask a mod. They will always clarify and tell you the real deal.
- Sharing of or asking for personal info of other members, such as addresses, is significantly frowned upon. Don't do this. Simple as that.
- If you're dumb enough to do it anyway, get a gentle talk about it, then go back and try to "stealthify" your thing to make it acceptable, well, trust me when I tell you that's a really bad idea too.
- One more thing - if you ever write a strain review, where and how you came by the strain you are reviewing is the very last information you want to include. Just don't. Nobody cares about that and it only invites trouble, trust me.

Ok, PSA complete. Thanks guys.

On to BIG changes.

The three coco photos can no longer live outside due to circumstances non-grow related I cannot control. So I had to do a little rearranging. The coco girls are now in the Gorilla tent under my primary light. They are going to finish out their lives (the rest of flower, today is day 11 of flower) as you see them in the pictures. This was my best and only option.

I put them on 12/12 beginning at 6:30 this morning. Close as I could get to the sun cycle they were on. I'm sure it was close enough that it won't be an issue. Lol. He said "sure." As if. Their environment is going to easily be very close to the outdoor environment as I control that and have already achieved that. They're in the mid 70s and have amazing air flow, with a dedicated fan for each plant as well as three corner fans on the floor blowing air up. They aren't too terribly crowded in there at the moment. That is going to change. But from the looks of it I will be able to control that no problem. So the overcrowding concern is also off the list. Yay. Thought it would be much worse.

If I have to raise the light from it's current position I have 16" to play with. They're on day 11 of the stretch. The available distance till too close to the light is also off the list of concerns now that I have the girls in there and I see what's what.

So my main and pretty much only concern now is the change of light source from sun to LED. I'm concerned that the stress this causes the plant may hermify it. A concern I've seen and read echoed here and all over the net over and over - that any major stress on the plant can potentially make it go hermie. So the light change is a big concern as that's the biggest and most stress inducing change in play in this situation.

But is it really? I started thinking about it. Can one single grower on this site show me one single scientific study, one white paper, one numbers based document of any kind that proves that going from sun to LED is something that will stress the plant out? Can anyone prove that to me with science?

I don't believe anyone can, because I don't believe such a thing exists. I think we all ASSUME something like going from sun to LED (or any light source change) will cause the plant stress. Just as I once assumed incorrectly that up potting caused the plant stress, only to find that if it's done right, it absolutely does not. Why would it cause the plant stress, logically? Just cuz the change? I'm not sure I buy it. So I am going to check these girls religiously (as if I don't already, lol) for a week or two and watch closely for any testicles developing. We all know what happens to any plant that may suffer that fate. But I'm going to bet on the girls and say they look around, get comfortable, and laugh at me.

Now that the stress and immediacy is out of play I feel much better. We'll see what happens. And Rob is one cool Mahatma Ghandi.

So that's it. Pictures below of the new digs. So we'll have a tent in a journal with "First Outdoor Grow" in the title. Lol. Well, at least the PUC is finishing outdoors for her last couple days. LOL. And thanks for the indulgence on the PSA guys.

1. The girls at home in the Gorilla tent.
2. Proximity to the light of the tallest plant taken with my phone touching the light, ie, light level picture
3-6: These are a four photo right to left montage showing the back corners and back middle of the tent. This is where two plants share space (had to choose one to have the most space, I chose the Blueberry because she's the only topped plant and will need the most space, also she's the tallest). So they begin in the back right corner of the tent and then proceed across the middle to the back left corner. I wanted to show you where the girth of the plants takes them and how crowded or not we are in the worst spots. NOT BAD AT ALL. I can live with this no problem and affect it if I choose.

So what do you think sensei? I mean @Bill284....

Wow I need a coffee after reading all that, hold on I'll be right back.
Ok I'm back hehe.
You are lucky Rob is the coolest dude on the planet my friend.
Be a good boy now Jon.
Looks like you found the perfect spot, lots of room.
Haven't you been splitting them Sunlight/ Led already without any problems?
I don't see why at 10 days you would see a problem moving them.
Also I've never had an issue with uppotting either, in flower or autos , don't see why everyone gets so worried about it.
Speaking of which if your doing it you should have your Bk & Fr in the coco already cooking.
Just a thought.
Take a deep breath, girls are ok your ok everything is ok.
You just have a time out,
Relax mucker, roll one up and enjoy.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Ok, BIG Changes Post #1
The Death of the Infidel
Chocolope is now a House Plant

I'm pulling the plug on the Chocolope. No, I don't want to. Yes, I find it amusing and curious and really would like to see what happens with her. But I ain't wasting the time, care, attention, and nutes on this plant just to watch a mutant grow and harvest an eighth. I have enough to do. So reluctantly I am eliminating Chocolope from this grow. Bye Chocolope. But we won't say RIP, as she is being repurposed as my newest house plant. Lol. That's about all she is anyway.

So here's the mutant, having more issues than a dyslexic who has spent all day wondering if there's a doG and why people so often ask that question. Sayonara.

Yeah, thats one twisted gal!

 

[Moony]

Big Changes Post #2
Coco Photos are no Longer Outdoor Plants
New Digs
Plus a Public Service Announcement

PSA:

I'm starting with the PSA. This is primarily aimed at anyone who may read this who is newish to the site. I'm doing it cuz I feel it's the right thing to do, and because I figure if I didn't know, there is likely another newish person who also doesn't know. I'm going to say some things that are patently obvious, or should be, so forgive the "duh we all know this" list - at worst it's a good reminder. I was not asked to do this by mods.

So who the hell am I to post a public service announcement? Well, I'm the guy who had a long conversation with a mod this morning. Not A mod, THE mod. When you get messaged by the founder, you would be well served to read that message closely and listen to it carefully. If it's there because you messed up, as in my case, it's often Teddy mail. This was a bit more direct. Bottom line is I screwed up. Whether or not it was an innocent or altruistically based screwup, it was most importantly a completely, 100%, no holds barred screw up. The kind you don't want to make.

While I sit out my penance and thank my lucky stars that the people who run this site for us are so damn cool, I cannot respond to any messages if anyone asks me something there. Emojis only for a bit. Small price to pay for the transgression. So here's a few things that I am going to keep in mind and are perhaps things that one would be well served to add to their base knowledge about this site:\

- This site represents a 30 year's worth of life work and is taken as seriously as that warrants
- The people who moderate us here have a trillion things to worry about, including any screw ups that could land someone in a small room for a spell
- They do an amazing job. On every level. Including making sure nobody is doing anything that could potentially bring negative repercussions to the mods or founder. I failed to take into consideration that one of our PRIMARY concerns when we post or message anything, is to ALWAYS keep the integrity and safety and LEGALITY of the site pristine. Doesn't matter where it is posted.
- There are many ways one can compromise the integrity of the site due to simple ignorance and not knowing the rules. I would suggest that one is well served to read the stuff in the beginning about the parameters of the site, and if you have any questions after that, ask a mod. They will always clarify and tell you the real deal.
- Sharing of or asking for personal info of other members, such as addresses, is significantly frowned upon. Don't do this. Simple as that.
- If you're dumb enough to do it anyway, get a gentle talk about it, then go back and try to "stealthify" your thing to make it acceptable, well, trust me when I tell you that's a really bad idea too.
- One more thing - if you ever write a strain review, where and how you came by the strain you are reviewing is the very last information you want to include. Just don't. Nobody cares about that and it only invites trouble, trust me.

Ok, PSA complete. Thanks guys.

On to BIG changes.

The three coco photos can no longer live outside due to circumstances non-grow related I cannot control. So I had to do a little rearranging. The coco girls are now in the Gorilla tent under my primary light. They are going to finish out their lives (the rest of flower, today is day 11 of flower) as you see them in the pictures. This was my best and only option.

I put them on 12/12 beginning at 6:30 this morning. Close as I could get to the sun cycle they were on. I'm sure it was close enough that it won't be an issue. Lol. He said "sure." As if. Their environment is going to easily be very close to the outdoor environment as I control that and have already achieved that. They're in the mid 70s and have amazing air flow, with a dedicated fan for each plant as well as three corner fans on the floor blowing air up. They aren't too terribly crowded in there at the moment. That is going to change. But from the looks of it I will be able to control that no problem. So the overcrowding concern is also off the list. Yay. Thought it would be much worse.

If I have to raise the light from it's current position I have 16" to play with. They're on day 11 of the stretch. The available distance till too close to the light is also off the list of concerns now that I have the girls in there and I see what's what.

So my main and pretty much only concern now is the change of light source from sun to LED. I'm concerned that the stress this causes the plant may hermify it. A concern I've seen and read echoed here and all over the net over and over - that any major stress on the plant can potentially make it go hermie. So the light change is a big concern as that's the biggest and most stress inducing change in play in this situation.

But is it really? I started thinking about it. Can one single grower on this site show me one single scientific study, one white paper, one numbers based document of any kind that proves that going from sun to LED is something that will stress the plant out? Can anyone prove that to me with science?

I don't believe anyone can, because I don't believe such a thing exists. I think we all ASSUME something like going from sun to LED (or any light source change) will cause the plant stress. Just as I once assumed incorrectly that up potting caused the plant stress, only to find that if it's done right, it absolutely does not. Why would it cause the plant stress, logically? Just cuz the change? I'm not sure I buy it. So I am going to check these girls religiously (as if I don't already, lol) for a week or two and watch closely for any testicles developing. We all know what happens to any plant that may suffer that fate. But I'm going to bet on the girls and say they look around, get comfortable, and laugh at me.

Now that the stress and immediacy is out of play I feel much better. We'll see what happens. And Rob is one cool Mahatma Ghandi.

So that's it. Pictures below of the new digs. So we'll have a tent in a journal with "First Outdoor Grow" in the title. Lol. Well, at least the PUC is finishing outdoors for her last couple days. LOL. And thanks for the indulgence on the PSA guys.

1. The girls at home in the Gorilla tent.
2. Proximity to the light of the tallest plant taken with my phone touching the light, ie, light level picture
3-6: These are a four photo right to left montage showing the back corners and back middle of the tent. This is where two plants share space (had to choose one to have the most space, I chose the Blueberry because she's the only topped plant and will need the most space, also she's the tallest). So they begin in the back right corner of the tent and then proceed across the middle to the back left corner. I wanted to show you where the girth of the plants takes them and how crowded or not we are in the worst spots. NOT BAD AT ALL. I can live with this no problem and affect it if I choose.

So what do you think sensei? I mean @Bill284....

You had me worried then Jon!

I sent you a message and ya didn't reply thought you had fallen out with me!

Glad your still here also glad you sorted out your setup buddy.

Personally I'd train the plant a little. Maybe bring down the top a bit.

Other than that I don't think it will be very stressful. And should still produce some nice buds

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

@Jon - Im with Moony! Sent you a PM or two, hadn’t heard back and thought I made you mad at me!

 

[Bill284]

@Jon - Im with Moony! Sent you a PM or two, hadn’t heard back and thought I made you mad at me!

Knock Knock, can John come out to play?
Hehe

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Jon]

Wow I need a coffee after reading all that, hold on I'll be right back.
Ok I'm back hehe.
You are lucky Rob is the coolest dude on the planet my friend.
Be a good boy now Jon.
Looks like you found the perfect spot, lots of room.
Haven't you been splitting them Sunlight/ Led already without any problems?
I don't see why at 10 days you would see a problem moving them.
Also I've never had an issue with uppotting either, in flower or autos , don't see why everyone gets so worried about it.
Speaking of which if your doing it you should have your Bk & Fr in the coco already cooking.
Just a thought.
Take a deep breath, girls are ok your ok everything is ok.
You just have a time out,
Relax mucker, roll one up and enjoy.

Stay safe
Bill

Thanks Bill, that's exactly what I'm doing. Lol. I'm not up potting and have no issues with it, I'm not doing it because if i put these into fives the tent will be more of a jungle than it's going to be. I only went 10 sun/10 LED in veg. Flower has been all sun, they've lived entirely outdoors since the flip. Moving them to outdoors only is what CAUSED the flip, remember?

I'm calm as hell now and happy as a clam. Can already see they'll be fine, and they couldn't be in better shape. If ever there were plants that'll laugh at me, it's these girls. They're gonna change the world.

I ain't worried Bill and knew I had this from the first moment on. I just like to share my emotional rigmaroles because I think new growers all go through them, unlike you vets who tend to take everything in stride and stay relatively blase.

I told you since the beginning I was bringing these coco girls all the way without a blemish to a perfect finish on my first try, and I intend to and am going to do exactly that. No lack of confidence here, trust me my friend. You can take more of a backseat if you like at this point and I won't have to bug you eight times a day every day anymore. LMAO. Maybe only twice a day now.

 

[Jon]

You had me worried then Jon!

I sent you a message and ya didn't reply thought you had fallen out with me!

Glad your still here also glad you sorted out your setup buddy.

Personally I'd train the plant a little. Maybe bring down the top a bit.

Other than that I don't think it will be very stressful. And should still produce some nice buds

You mean the Chocolope? Moon, you can't tell the size of this plant in the pictures. Everything you see is crammed into TWO vertical inches. YES, 2! So you wanna train her still? Have at it. Come on over and grab her. She's all yours.

 

[Jon]

Knock Knock, can John come out to play?
Hehe

Stay safe
Bill

Nope. Trim jail. Which you are about to see, and boy is this one my fave so far.

 

[Bill284]

Thanks Bill, that's exactly what I'm doing. Lol. I'm not up potting and have no issues with it, I'm not doing it because if i put these into fives the tent will be more of a jungle than it's going to be. I only went 10 sun/10 LED in veg. Flower has been all sun, they've lived entirely outdoors since the flip. Moving them to outdoors only is what CAUSED the flip, remember?

I'm calm as hell now and happy as a clam. Can already see they'll be fine, and they couldn't be in better shape. If ever there were plants that'll laugh at me, it's these girls. They're gonna change the world.

I ain't worried Bill and knew I had this from the first moment on. I just like to share my emotional rigmaroles because I think new growers all go through them, unlike you vets who tend to take everything in stride and stay relatively blase.

I told you since the beginning I was bringing these coco girls all the way without a blemish to a perfect finish on my first try, and I intend to and am going to do exactly that. No lack of confidence here, trust me my friend. You can take more of a backseat if you like at this point and I won't have to bug you eight times a day every day anymore. LMAO. Maybe only twice a day now.

Any time after 4am I'm available mucker.
I'm happy to answer any questions no problem.
Just don't make me read a novel to get to the question.
No worries my friend, your doing great.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Moony]

You mean the Chocolope? Moon, you can't tell the size of this plant in the pictures. Everything you see is crammed into TWO vertical inches. YES, 2! So you wanna train her still? Have at it. Come on over and grab her. She's all yours.

Hahah I'd love to give it a try. I'm 6ft 6 so I might be able to reach! Heheh

 

[Jon]

Raspberry Parfait
Finished Bud

After the last 24 hours I need some good old fashioned bud porn to relax while I get very high.

I already told you guys how much this plant smells like a raspberry patch. As it finished it took on and still has this super intense, very sharp, very loud, candy raspberry smell. Like a sweet, hard raspberry candy. I can't WAIT to smoke this stuff. And this strain has one more amazing characteristic I have learned....I'm pretty sure this is the easiest plant to trim in Jah's entire arsenal. It's fast and easy. All the buds are individualized on each stem with no flarf and no crap to clear out. It's not very cover leafy at all and they are way bigger than the sugars, so they snip off in seconds. The sugars are all very uniform and small. I left every one intact. And when they dry, all the sugar leaves curl up around each bud perfectly like the outer petal of a rose or something, and they stay all together and spread out, not twisted all together. So to take them off you just quickly snip off a series of these entire leaves on each bud, which goes lightning fast, and there's little if anything else to do. And I mean to get them to look the way I trim, what you see in the pics. This is the eighth straight plant I'm trimming in the last two weeks, and it destroys them all in ease of trim. I haven't grown anything this easy ever, not even close. Nor have I ever grown such a stinky strain, although the Gelato comes close. It's steaming.

I really highly highly recommend this strain, without even smoking a cured bud of it. It has no downside and super solid genetics, and rare would be the grower who didn't fall in love with the smell and ease of trim. And this isn't even a strain review, just a preview to this: