Jon's First Outdoor Grow: Sugar Breath Photoperiod & Strawberry Banana Autoflower

[cjsbabygirl313]

Focus: Strawberry Lemonade Fast Flowering Photo
Flower/Stretch Day 6

Here's her facts:

- 3 gallon pot
- Coco
- Currently on Week 5 of FF Feed Chart (first week 5 feed today) with zero adjustments and zero variation except a one week period in veg when @Bill284 told me to up their nutes 25% across the board for a few feedings, so I did as he commanded. Only thing I missed (so far, lol) was one foliar spray.
- 100% untrained
- 100% non-defoliated (except the starter leaves, if you count them, lol)
- Veg was 10/sun and 10/LED under the @Mars Hydro FC-E6500 rig for around 40 days
- I did not leave them in the rain on rainy days during veg cuz I doubted rainwater was 5.8, don't know if it mattered, but for those few days (less than 7 in the plant's whole life) she stayed in the rig the whole 20 hours, obviously I have that choice no longer
- She drinks a half gallon first thing in the morning and another half gallon around 2 in the afternoon, depending on how much direct sun that day, but that's about average at this time
- She has several fan leaves larger than my hand

Here she is from side, a shot of the top growth where you can see the gorgeous color they begin and end at on new growth, and a shot of a couple branches that represent her fairly well. These pictures were taken intentionally right before her afternoon feeding. This is her NOT praying, and about when she starts looking at me and tapping her goddamn watch...

Beautiful gal Jon! Especially with no training! I had to take a few leaves from Liv today; @Jack 420 suggested taking just some that we on top of other things - I kinda had to - she was getting so dense I didnt even have room to do any additional tucking.

 

[InTheShed]

This is her NOT praying, and about when she starts looking at me and tapping her goddamn watch

LOL!

 

[Bill284]

Focus: Strawberry Lemonade Fast Flowering Photo
Flower/Stretch Day 6

Here's her facts:

- 3 gallon pot
- Coco
- Currently on Week 5 of FF Feed Chart (first week 5 feed today) with zero adjustments and zero variation except a one week period in veg when @Bill284 told me to up their nutes 25% across the board for a few feedings, so I did as he commanded. Only thing I missed (so far, lol) was one foliar spray.
- 100% untrained
- 100% non-defoliated (except the starter leaves, if you count them, lol)
- Veg was 10/sun and 10/LED under the @Mars Hydro FC-E6500 rig for around 40 days
- I did not leave them in the rain on rainy days during veg cuz I doubted rainwater was 5.8, don't know if it mattered, but for those few days (less than 7 in the plant's whole life) she stayed in the rig the whole 20 hours, obviously I have that choice no longer
- She drinks a half gallon first thing in the morning and another half gallon around 2 in the afternoon, depending on how much direct sun that day, but that's about average at this time
- She has several fan leaves larger than my hand

Here she is from side, a shot of the top growth where you can see the gorgeous color they begin and end at on new growth, and a shot of a couple branches that represent her fairly well. These pictures were taken intentionally right before her afternoon feeding. This is her NOT praying, and about when she starts looking at me and tapping her goddamn watch...

I hate when they start tapping their watch, always makes me feel bad.
Good morning John how are you doing today.
Did you take yesterday off , I don't think I talked to you?
Looking beautiful out in the sun .

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Jon]

Hey Bill, no I'm in trim hell. But I can come up for air today. All the autos are finish trimmed. It wouldn't take as long except that I have always gone for the show trim. When my guests open a Jon jar I want them to know that everything in that jar is 100 percent smokable weed, no stems, no nothing, and I want the bags to astound them. So I trim like it's a contest. Every bud. I'll show some comparison pictures of the four SBs today. And my tent goes in large containers as is with stems and branches and all for days now, no trimming the tent for ten more days. That gives me time to trim the Raspberry parfait, which I'm chopping today, and the PUC which will be ready in ten days. Ten days from now I'll fly you down. Lol. If only I had that coin..

Anyway, I have pistils after seven days on all three coco girls. I switched back to week five of the FF chart as you said to do at that point. FF keeps plenty of veg nutes in the mix (even a MIcrobe Brew), so if you see they need more of veg nutes lemme know. I'll start sending you pics more often than I can post regular pics now.

These girls in threes are as big as the Raspberry Parfait, my biggest plant, in a seven.

I'm so blown away.

BTW...their color is incredible, they don't have a single blemish, all their leaves are intact and HUGE (that's one of the most ridiculous parts is how big the fan leaves get, it's unreal, haven't had leaves like this since my first grow, which was just cuz of the strain. Incredible.

 

[Bill284]

Hey Bill, no I'm in trim hell. But I can come up for air today. All the autos are finish trimmed. It wouldn't take as long except that I have always gone for the show trim. When my guests open a Jon jar I want them to know that everything in that jar is 100 percent smokable weed, no stems, no nothing, and I want the bags to astound them. So I trim like it's a contest. Every bud. I'll show some comparison pictures of the four SBs today. And my tent goes in large containers as is with stems and branches and all for days now, no trimming the tent for ten more days. That gives me time to trim the Raspberry parfait, which I'm chopping today, and the PUC which will be ready in ten days. Ten days from now I'll fly you down. Lol. If only I had that coin..

Anyway, I have pistils after seven days on all three coco girls. I switched back to week five of the FF chart as you said to do at that point. FF keeps plenty of veg nutes in the mix (even a MIcrobe Brew), so if you see they need more of veg nutes lemme know. I'll start sending you pics more often than I can post regular pics now.

These girls in threes are as big as the Raspberry Parfait, my biggest plant, in a seven.

I'm so blown away.

BTW...their color is incredible, they don't have a single blemish, all their leaves are intact and HUGE (that's one of the most ridiculous parts is how big the fan leaves get, it's unreal, haven't had leaves like this since my first grow, which was just cuz of the strain. Incredible.

Good morning Mucker, glad your ok.
Never thought of trim jail when I didn't see you around yesterday. Hehe
I start off trying to trim perfect buds by the end I can't even hold the trimmers and just chew off the leaves to get it over with.
So you have pistols now woohoo, going to stretch like crazy now.
We might have waited a bit too long.
They are loving the sun down there my friend.
Can't wait to see today's pics.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Jon]

Good morning Mucker, glad your ok.
Never thought of trim jail when I didn't see you around yesterday. Hehe
I start off trying to trim perfect buds by the end I can't even hold the trimmers and just chew off the leaves to get it over with.
So you have pistols now woohoo, going to stretch like crazy now.
We might have waited a bit too long.
They are loving the sun down there my friend.
Can't wait to see today's pics.

Stay safe
Bill

Nah we're fine. I gave them the one feed for the first day of the flip of bloom nutes (same week five we're on on the chart), then we switched back to veg for four days, now we're back on bloom. No big deal, they're fine. Plus, the difference on the chart between four and five is not a big deal, pretty much the same veg nutes and addition of tiger bloom. The FF chart - do you have one? Check it out if you want to know specifically what the girls are being fed and when. Some of the additives I didn't use in the past (was not using full system) are great - Microbe Brew, Kangaroots, Bembe, etc. Check it out.

 

[Jon]

Outdoor Autoflower Bud Porn
Dos Si Dos #1
Day 47

So the buds from the DSD that looks like the first finisher are beginning to take on the familiar conical shape on top, a sign for me that we're getting closer and soon will be in final fattening up mode. I am starting to be pretty sure I'm going to like Dos Si Dos.

Here's three bud shots from this plant. Enjoy

 

[Jon]

Our Young Girls
CJS Apple Blossom
Chocolope (or something, I don't WHAT the hell this is, lol)
Veg Day 20

20 days into veg and we have one plant who's perfect and one who's a mess. I have no idea what's up with this Chocolope, but she continues to crack me up. As long as she stays green and appears to be growing I'm letting this mutant go to see what happens. Maybe I'll get a figure 8 bud or something crazy, who knows? Lol.

So we'll have to use the Apple Blossom as our report plant. Not much to say yet about the @Prescription Blend nutes, as she's only on week one. But I will say this: from a user perspective, the PB guys thought of everything. You use such a small amount of water for early veg at this time that you want to mix as small an amount as you can, as you don't want to waste your expensive nutes. So after checking out what they wanted me to do for a gallon, I decided the smallest amount I could make and be comfortable with was a half gallon, fully aware of the waste involved. It's not like I'm going to keep the excess and use it three days later, I don't do that. New mix every feeding, period, no exceptions, EVER. Anyway, as I go to mix I realize why they send so many different sized pipettes with the nutes. The lids are different circumferences. Some are wider. You gotta use the right pipette, but they're there! AND, each one is marked down to the 1/2 ML. I didn't see that until I went to mix, and it's awesome, cuz I'm sitting there going, shit, I guess I have to estimate what a half ML looks like in the pipette. It makes mixing easy as hell in terms of the accuracy of the mix. Once I saw that I was psyched cuz next time I can make a quart instead. That will be good for a week or two, depending on how fast the CJS AB gets up. She seems to have responded VERY well to her first dose of the nutes. After letting the soil be her guide for longer than usual, 17 days, she got her first dose, as did the Chocolope. She seems to have responded with accelerated growth almost immediately, I noticed it the very next morning. Her interior little growth took off immediately, see pic. Not bad for 20 days.

The Chocolope.

Here's top and side shots of each plant. Not necessary to identify them, you can handle it. Lol. I hope you guys find the Chocolope as amusing as I do. I don't even care that it's a $16 seed. I'm loving her.

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Our Young Girls
CJS Apple Blossom
Chocolope (or something, I don't WHAT the hell this is, lol)
Veg Day 20

20 days into veg and we have one plant who's perfect and one who's a mess. I have no idea what's up with this Chocolope, but she continues to crack me up. As long as she stays green and appears to be growing I'm letting this mutant go to see what happens. Maybe I'll get a figure 8 bud or something crazy, who knows? Lol.

So we'll have to use the Apple Blossom as our report plant. Not much to say yet about the @Prescription Blend nutes, as she's only on week one. But I will say this: from a user perspective, the PB guys thought of everything. You use such a small amount of water for early veg at this time that you want to mix as small an amount as you can, as you don't want to waste your expensive nutes. So after checking out what they wanted me to do for a gallon, I decided the smallest amount I could make and be comfortable with was a half gallon, fully aware of the waste involved. It's not like I'm going to keep the excess and use it three days later, I don't do that. New mix every feeding, period, no exceptions, EVER. Anyway, as I go to mix I realize why they send so many different sized pipettes with the nutes. The lids are different circumferences. Some are wider. You gotta use the right pipette, but they're there! AND, each one is marked down to the 1/2 ML. I didn't see that until I went to mix, and it's awesome, cuz I'm sitting there going, shit, I guess I have to estimate what a half ML looks like in the pipette. It makes mixing easy as hell in terms of the accuracy of the mix. Once I saw that I was psyched cuz next time I can make a quart instead. That will be good for a week or two, depending on how fast the CJS AB gets up. She seems to have responded VERY well to her first dose of the nutes. After letting the soil be her guide for longer than usual, 17 days, she got her first dose, as did the Chocolope. She seems to have responded with accelerated growth almost immediately, I noticed it the very next morning. Her interior little growth took off immediately, see pic. Not bad for 20 days.

The Chocolope.

Here's top and side shots of each plant. Not necessary to identify them, you can handle it. Lol. I hope you guys find the Chocolope as amusing as I do. I don't even care that it's a $16 seed. I'm loving her.

Your Apple Blossom looks lovely! She’s not going to look cabbage-like at all with that nice node spacing.

The Chocolope - you’re right: DEFINITELY has a very interesting shape to her - kinda like she’s favoring one side!

 

[Jon]

Focus: Pineapple Upside Down Cake
Flower Day 45

After the Raspberry Parfait, this will be the next plant to harvest. Today is 45 days of flower, the time HSC claims it's ready in. Not. Lol. As if.

Here's the skinny on her:

- Flower Day 45
- 7 gallon pot
- Fox Farms soil blend of 40% Happy Frog/40% Ocean Forest/20% Mother Earth perlite #3
- Geoflora nutrients
- This plant got two shots of Calmag and nothing more in terms of additives. Geoflora has gotten us here. A note on that: I have been feeding every 13 days instead of their 14 since the beginning by design. She was due to be fed tomorrow again. She was also dry yesterday and needed watering. She's close enough to finishing that I had to decide to either forgo her last feeding, or feed her knowing I'll be leaving stuff in the pot, ie, maybe wasting nutes. I chose to feed her two days early yesterday and finish her out fully nuted to the end. I got these nutes from @Rexer, who gifted them to me from his prize pack, so not paying for them likely affected my decision. These four pound bags DON'T last forever as I thought. Lol. But MAN did this plant seem to respond well to them start to finish. Geoflora nutes seem to produce a nice, consistent fade on the leaves of the plants as they get close to done. You can see how sweet and consistent the fade is on this girl. Geoflora is our official sponsor for this grow, so at some point I'll do a post just on them and what my impressions were first time using them. But I'll already tell you I'm totally sold and think they're awesome.
- Watered as necessary right out of the tap. Easy peasy.
- Extremely easy plant to grow and way low maintenance. She just makes big, sweet buds and loves life.
- Smells like fruity cotton candy more than anything else right now.
- If I have any concerns it's bud rot now that I've been introduced to it. I never get it in a tent. I've had touches of it outside here and there and it sucks as bad as you all told me it did, lol. So the cola on this girl is a bit concerning in that regard. She'll get wet trimmed for sure as will most of this plant. So will the Raspberry as I now know that any dense buds I grew outside need that to dry effectively and minimize chances for bud rot. So far on this plant we appear to be okay from what I can see, which is not as much as I'd like. Can't see inside til you see it on the outside, and by then you're screwed however much is my impression. It gets real humid overnight here, like 80%, and sometimes I wake up to fog. Ie, TONS of air moisture. I believe that's why I have some here and there. So far been lucky due to fanaticism in catching it where it is and stopping any progression, and none so far on this plant.

So not sure what else to tell you except she appears to have around ten days to two weeks yet to my eye.

Here's some bud shots, a branch shot of the lowermost branch on the plant, a shot of the entire plant, and a shot of the middle trying to show the sweet fade she has going on. And a shot of the cola itself. Enjoy. As always, thank you for stopping in to my journal.

This makes up for the night I missed a daily/nightime focus post due to trimming. Lmao.

 

[Jon]

OUR FIRST TRAGEDY (lol!)

There's all kinds of ways to assess how far you've come as a grower. In the last ten minutes I found out in a rather amusing way. Only one grow ago this would have sent me into an emotional tizzy and I'd be crying the blues to you guys. In fact, exactly one grow ago that's exactly what I did when the scrog went hermie. I learned a lot from that sh-- though, and I'm glad I did.

We had to harvest a plant a little early.


So I went out to move the plants to the afternoon spot. Did so. The last one I put in place was the Strawberry Banana Fast Flowering photo in a 5 gallon pot getting Geoflora nutes. I stopped to take some pictures of her and noticed there was a branch at the top that didn't look right. It was not in it's proper position.

A closer inspection revealed our first wind break. And this one was clean and all the way through. It was one of the two main colas from the topping, and it was simply gorgeous. Only wind tragedy when that's what I have feared the most cuz it's constant, so that's easy to live with. That would not qualify as a tragedy, just a suck.

So I was taking pictures of the branch that broke off to show you guys and did that, and went to edit the pictures. That's went I saw it.

This, ladies and germs, is a plant that has just now begun the path to the dreaded Hermie God of Suck.

I don't question this, I don't fuc- around with it, I don't even consider trying to save it. There's no question the immediate course of action. Get the hell rid of it right this very second, everything else in the world stops til it's done. In this case it was easy. I brought the plant about 50 feet away, topped it completely with a plastic garbage bag, tied it off at the bottom of the stem and chopped it. Then I took it around the house away from the others and disposed of it in a sealed trash can in the front two car garage.

I checked every branch on the plant. These were the only two, and I had not yet found them. Two days ago for sure they did not exist. But think about how lucky this whole thing was:

- I found the hermie cuz of a wind break of a main cola
- I found them way before any possibility of them causing an issue
- If it had to happen to any plant, at least it was the one I already have around a half pound of jarred, same strain. It cost the auto/photo same strain comparison I was going to do, but big deal.
- The wind chose this plant and this day to break the branch, thus me saving all the rest of my photos.
- I actually knew what to do!!!

So there's my tale of woe, and you know what? I'm honestly laughing my ass off. As if we were going to have zero issues on 18 plants having never used certain nutes and never grown outside. Lol. We're still doing fairly well.

Had it been one of my cocos I'd be far less good humored about it. Heh.

So here's a photo montage that shows you the break, how sweet it looked, the plant before I killed it, and the dreaded, no question about it, not sticking around to try and pick these off each day and save it's ass, HERMIES.

Fricking hermies.

I can't help but think about how much easier that made my trimming.

 

[Rexer]

OUR FIRST TRAGEDY (lol!)

There's all kinds of ways to assess how far you've come as a grower. In the last ten minutes I found out in a rather amusing way. Only one grow ago this would have sent me into an emotional tizzy and I'd be crying the blues to you guys. In fact, exactly one grow ago that's exactly what I did when the scrog went hermie. I learned a lot from that sh-- though, and I'm glad I did.

We had to harvest a plant a little early.


So I went out to move the plants to the afternoon spot. Did so. The last one I put in place was the Strawberry Banana Fast Flowering photo in a 5 gallon pot getting Geoflora nutes. I stopped to take some pictures of her and noticed there was a branch at the top that didn't look right. It was not in it's proper position.

A closer inspection revealed our first wind break. And this one was clean and all the way through. It was one of the two main colas from the topping, and it was simply gorgeous. Only wind tragedy when that's what I have feared the most cuz it's constant, so that's easy to live with. That would not qualify as a tragedy, just a suck.

So I was taking pictures of the branch that broke off to show you guys and did that, and went to edit the pictures. That's went I saw it.

This, ladies and germs, is a plant that has just now begun the path to the dreaded Hermie God of Suck.

I don't question this, I don't fuc- around with it, I don't even consider trying to save it. There's no question the immediate course of action. Get the hell rid of it right this very second, everything else in the world stops til it's done. In this case it was easy. I brought the plant about 50 feet away, topped it completely with a plastic garbage bag, tied it off at the bottom of the stem and chopped it. Then I took it around the house away from the others and disposed of it in a sealed trash can in the front two car garage.

I checked every branch on the plant. These were the only two, and I had not yet found them. Two days ago for sure they did not exist. But think about how lucky this whole thing was:

- I found the hermie cuz of a wind break of a main cola
- I found them way before any possibility of them causing an issue
- If it had to happen to any plant, at least it was the one I already have around a half pound of jarred, same strain. It cost the auto/photo same strain comparison I was going to do, but big deal.
- The wind chose this plant and this day to break the branch, thus me saving all the rest of my photos.
- I actually knew what to do!!!

So there's my tale of woe, and you know what? I'm honestly laughing my ass off. As if we were going to have zero issues on 18 plants having never used certain nutes and never grown outside. Lol. We're still doing fairly well.

Had it been one of my cocos I'd be far less good humored about it. Heh.

So here's a photo montage that shows you the break, how sweet it looked, the plant before I killed it, and the dreaded, no question about it, not sticking around to try and pick these off each day and save it's ass, HERMIES.

Fricking hermies.

I can't help but think about how much easier that made my trimming.

Dude after reading that I don't know if I should laugh, feel bad, or congratulate you. Cause all those emotions were there when reading your post.
A sad, but great catch and smart move. She did look great through.

 

[Bill284]

OUR FIRST TRAGEDY (lol!)

There's all kinds of ways to assess how far you've come as a grower. In the last ten minutes I found out in a rather amusing way. Only one grow ago this would have sent me into an emotional tizzy and I'd be crying the blues to you guys. In fact, exactly one grow ago that's exactly what I did when the scrog went hermie. I learned a lot from that sh-- though, and I'm glad I did.

We had to harvest a plant a little early.


So I went out to move the plants to the afternoon spot. Did so. The last one I put in place was the Strawberry Banana Fast Flowering photo in a 5 gallon pot getting Geoflora nutes. I stopped to take some pictures of her and noticed there was a branch at the top that didn't look right. It was not in it's proper position.

A closer inspection revealed our first wind break. And this one was clean and all the way through. It was one of the two main colas from the topping, and it was simply gorgeous. Only wind tragedy when that's what I have feared the most cuz it's constant, so that's easy to live with. That would not qualify as a tragedy, just a suck.

So I was taking pictures of the branch that broke off to show you guys and did that, and went to edit the pictures. That's went I saw it.

This, ladies and germs, is a plant that has just now begun the path to the dreaded Hermie God of Suck.

I don't question this, I don't fuc- around with it, I don't even consider trying to save it. There's no question the immediate course of action. Get the hell rid of it right this very second, everything else in the world stops til it's done. In this case it was easy. I brought the plant about 50 feet away, topped it completely with a plastic garbage bag, tied it off at the bottom of the stem and chopped it. Then I took it around the house away from the others and disposed of it in a sealed trash can in the front two car garage.

I checked every branch on the plant. These were the only two, and I had not yet found them. Two days ago for sure they did not exist. But think about how lucky this whole thing was:

- I found the hermie cuz of a wind break of a main cola
- I found them way before any possibility of them causing an issue
- If it had to happen to any plant, at least it was the one I already have around a half pound of jarred, same strain. It cost the auto/photo same strain comparison I was going to do, but big deal.
- The wind chose this plant and this day to break the branch, thus me saving all the rest of my photos.
- I actually knew what to do!!!

So there's my tale of woe, and you know what? I'm honestly laughing my ass off. As if we were going to have zero issues on 18 plants having never used certain nutes and never grown outside. Lol. We're still doing fairly well.

Had it been one of my cocos I'd be far less good humored about it. Heh.

So here's a photo montage that shows you the break, how sweet it looked, the plant before I killed it, and the dreaded, no question about it, not sticking around to try and pick these off each day and save it's ass, HERMIES.

Fricking hermies.

I can't help but think about how much easier that made my trimming.

Sorry mucker.

Who's seed was it?

Stay safe
Bill

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Dude after reading that I don't know if I should laugh, feel bad, or congratulate you. Cause all those emotions were there when reading your post.
A sad, but great catch and smart move. She did look great through.

I’m with you Rex - at least @Jon caught it in time!

 

[Jon]

Sorry mucker.

Who's seed was it?

Stay safe
Bill

420FastBuds, and I've never had an issue with them. I think it was cuz as my outdoor overnight spot gets more crowded, this plant was on the end that most closely tempts the light that shouldn't be there from windows and such. I think this plant got exposed enough nights to light it didn't like. Only thing I can figure. Adjustments will be made immediately just in case that was it.

 

[Jon]

Well, HELL, we better follow up a post like that with something better, eh?
Anyone wanna see what I've been doing in trim jail?

Well I promise this post will elicit entirely different emotional responses than the last one.

So as you guys know I've been trimming my ass off in the attempt to get the entire auto rig final trimmed and jarred as all of them were ready or ready enough. That would free me up to do the soon to be ready to hang RP and PUC while the tent buds are in pre-jar/pre-cure. It had to get done, and they're done.

So we're talking about five autos - 4 Strawberry Bananas, and 1 Gelato. This is strictly a "how they look" comparison as I won't post taste/yields until they've cured a bit.

Let's go to the pics, enough yakking:

1. Group shot of SB 1, 2, 3, and 4. The buds are in numerical order left to right.
2-5: Closeups of SB 1, 2, 3, and 4, also in the same order.
5. Group shot of selected Gelato buds in descending order of size to show that even the little ones of her were fully formed buds that were shaped and dense like the top buds. All the buds pretty much look like this.
6-7: A couple selected Gelato bud closeups.

And yes, it all stinks to the holy heavens already, And perhaps you have a better idea of why trimming takes me so goddamn long. I ain't that slow either, trust me. Lol.

Enjoy! I did! All the autos are in the bank from the @NextLight rig! Thank you NextLight! The 420h is awesome!!!!!

 

[Bill284]

Well, HELL, we better follow up a post like that with something better, eh?
Anyone wanna see what I've been doing in trim jail?

Well I promise this post will elicit entirely different emotional responses than the last one.

So as you guys know I've been trimming my ass off in the attempt to get the entire auto rig final trimmed and jarred as all of them were ready or ready enough. That would free me up to do the soon to be ready to hang RP and PUC while the tent buds are in pre-jar/pre-cure. It had to get done, and they're done.

So we're talking about five autos - 4 Strawberry Bananas, and 1 Gelato. This is strictly a "how they look" comparison as I won't post taste/yields until they've cured a bit.

Let's go to the pics, enough yakking:

1. Group shot of SB 1, 2, 3, and 4. The buds are in numerical order left to right.
2-5: Closeups of SB 1, 2, 3, and 4, also in the same order.
5. Group shot of selected Gelato buds in descending order of size to show that even the little ones of her were fully formed buds that were shaped and dense like the top buds. All the buds pretty much look like this.
6-7: A couple selected Gelato bud closeups.

And yes, it all stinks to the holy heavens already, And perhaps you have a better idea of why trimming takes me so goddamn long. I ain't that slow either, trust me. Lol.

Enjoy! I did! All the autos are in the bank from the @NextLight rig! Thank you NextLight! The 420h is awesome!!!!!

Perfect

Stay safe
Bill

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Well, HELL, we better follow up a post like that with something better, eh?
Anyone wanna see what I've been doing in trim jail?

Well I promise this post will elicit entirely different emotional responses than the last one.

So as you guys know I've been trimming my ass off in the attempt to get the entire auto rig final trimmed and jarred as all of them were ready or ready enough. That would free me up to do the soon to be ready to hang RP and PUC while the tent buds are in pre-jar/pre-cure. It had to get done, and they're done.

So we're talking about five autos - 4 Strawberry Bananas, and 1 Gelato. This is strictly a "how they look" comparison as I won't post taste/yields until they've cured a bit.

Let's go to the pics, enough yakking:

1. Group shot of SB 1, 2, 3, and 4. The buds are in numerical order left to right.
2-5: Closeups of SB 1, 2, 3, and 4, also in the same order.
5. Group shot of selected Gelato buds in descending order of size to show that even the little ones of her were fully formed buds that were shaped and dense like the top buds. All the buds pretty much look like this.
6-7: A couple selected Gelato bud closeups.

And yes, it all stinks to the holy heavens already, And perhaps you have a better idea of why trimming takes me so goddamn long. I ain't that slow either, trust me. Lol.

Enjoy! I did! All the autos are in the bank from the @NextLight rig! Thank you NextLight! The 420h is awesome!!!!!

Looks oh so TASTY!!!

 

[Jon]

Hadn't planned on being so active here today, but things happen....
EXECUTIVE DECISION MADE
@Mars Hydro
Say hello to our formerly indoor/outdoor Autos
Day 47

With great hesitancy I made an executive decision this evening. However, as you'll see, it's going to work out just fine.

If you saw the post today about the SB FF photo that began with a wind break - well, therein lies our reason for making this decision. The wind is simply a bit much every day. I'm not worried about the coco photos cuz their stems are already tree trunks. The autos are too - but more on the bottom than all the way up the plant. I've actually never seen stems like I see on the coco plants, but I digress. If that branch that was snapped today can snap, then any of these auto branches can also snap. And in particular, since they're all basically trained in the same fashion, they all have pretty much two main colas that tower over the rest. (Actually as you'll see, one of the DSD's gave me three). Also due to their style of training, all the other branches are very long and laden with buds. I have come too far with these girls and worked too hard on them to take a chance on them now after seeing what happened to their cousin today.

So now all the pressure is on the FC-E6500. No more sun. No more outdoors, other than the outside environment. But I think you can see why and I think it's the smarter decision. AND, best of all, I already happen to know from experience that the FC-E6500 is going to finish these girls out STRONG, cuz that's what this light does. So yeah, we lost the sun, and that's too bad, but if there has to be a stand in the MH ain't too bad! They will finish under 20/4 in the rig at 100% power in the exact positions you see them in below. I took the time to tweak it since now we're in final position and I'm tired of rearranging every day, so I got all the plants so that there's a "canopy" of sorts and they're exactly where they need to be relative to the light to finish budding. As we're way done with vertical growth we can now set them and forget them. Again, my life just got easier, although I didn't really want to trade that workload in. Oh well. Discretion is the better part of valor. And yield. Lol!

The pictures:

1. The autos in their final positions in the rig with proximity to light.
2. Our "canopy" picture taken from light level.
3-6: One picture of each plant's main colas that I am unwilling to risk along with the rest of them. Check out the DSD #1 with the thick ass buds. See her stems under those buds? No WAY am I risking those. And this is repeated on each plant, although not like that one, lol. Also maybe take note of the final picture. I put it last on purpose. This is another DSD, but two things of note about this one - one, it has three mains, basically, and two, 2 of those mains are attached much lower to the really bad break we had. This is the broken main cola auto. I think she recovered very nicely. I used @cjsbabygirl313 break fixing level skills on it and it worked out great. Also, the fourth picture appears to have five tops, that pic is to show the two big ones that are taller on the outside, they're the ones that go with that plant. The order of plants in these four pictures is DSD1 (thick bud plant), DSD2, Gorilla Zkittlez, DSD3 (broken cola plant).

So anyone wanna tell me I made the right decision? Or did I chicken out too soon?

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Hadn't planned on being so active here today, but things happen....
EXECUTIVE DECISION MADE
@Mars Hydro
Say hello to our formerly indoor/outdoor Autos
Day 47

With great hesitancy I made an executive decision this evening. However, as you'll see, it's going to work out just fine.

If you saw the post today about the SB FF photo that began with a wind break - well, therein lies our reason for making this decision. The wind is simply a bit much every day. I'm not worried about the coco photos cuz their stems are already tree trunks. The autos are too - but more on the bottom than all the way up the plant. I've actually never seen stems like I see on the coco plants, but I digress. If that branch that was snapped today can snap, then any of these auto branches can also snap. And in particular, since they're all basically trained in the same fashion, they all have pretty much two main colas that tower over the rest. (Actually as you'll see, one of the DSD's gave me three). Also due to their style of training, all the other branches are very long and laden with buds. I have come too far with these girls and worked too hard on them to take a chance on them now after seeing what happened to their cousin today.

So now all the pressure is on the FC-E6500. No more sun. No more outdoors, other than the outside environment. But I think you can see why and I think it's the smarter decision. AND, best of all, I already happen to know from experience that the FC-E6500 is going to finish these girls out STRONG, cuz that's what this light does. So yeah, we lost the sun, and that's too bad, but if there has to be a stand in the MH ain't too bad! They will finish under 20/4 in the rig at 100% power in the exact positions you see them in below. I took the time to tweak it since now we're in final position and I'm tired of rearranging every day, so I got all the plants so that there's a "canopy" of sorts and they're exactly where they need to be relative to the light to finish budding. As we're way done with vertical growth we can now set them and forget them. Again, my life just got easier, although I didn't really want to trade that workload in. Oh well. Discretion is the better part of valor. And yield. Lol!

The pictures:

1. The autos in their final positions in the rig with proximity to light.
2. Our "canopy" picture taken from light level.
3-6: One picture of each plant's main colas that I am unwilling to risk along with the rest of them. Check out the DSD #1 with the thick ass buds. See her stems under those buds? No WAY am I risking those. And this is repeated on each plant, although not like that one, lol. Also maybe take note of the final picture. I put it last on purpose. This is another DSD, but two things of note about this one - one, it has three mains, basically, and two, 2 of those mains are attached much lower to the really bad break we had. This is the broken main cola auto. I think she recovered very nicely. I used @cjsbabygirl313 break fixing level skills on it and it worked out great. Also, the fourth picture appears to have five tops, that pic is to show the two big ones that are taller on the outside, they're the ones that go with that plant. The order of plants in these four pictures is DSD1 (thick bud plant), DSD2, Gorilla Zkittlez, DSD3 (broken cola plant).

So anyone wanna tell me I made the right decision? Or did I chicken out too soon?

I think you made a good call! As far as my “break fix” - it was a decision made in a moment of panic!