I've got a kelp based KNF extract that I use as part of my veg nutes but I was wondering more about mixing kelp into the mix as a significant component as I think it high in K as well as many growth hormones and all the trace elements you mention.
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Yes, you did mention it several times as a soil carbon, but left out the part it could play as a K input.
I think my comfrey input might very well provide what I need and I've just started adding that to both compost and worm bins so it will be many months before I see how it does. Hopefully it does well since I tripled my plot last year and that's not a plant that can be removed easily.
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I just found a wicked cool cheap source of kelp. Equestrian supply stores. Who knew that it's an important part of horse diets.
In Canada I pay $20 for 1.5 kg of garden kelp, but I get 5kg for $45 bucks. Cheap calciums too. Dolomite and gypsum in 50 lb bags. Because its for feed, they list all the values too.
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I just found out last summer that alfalfa grows wild around my house. If you can grow some of that, its pretty good stuff.Yes, you did mention it several times as a soil carbon, but left out the part it could play as a K input.
I think my comfrey input might very well provide what I need and I've just started adding that to both compost and worm bins so it will be many months before I see how it does. Hopefully it does well since I tripled my plot last year and that's not a plant that can be removed easily.
Interesting. We've got a new farm supply store round here that I stopped into for the first time last week. They had big bags of alfalfa meal pellets I may use to heat up my winter compost pile.
Never stopped to look at what else they have in bags. Thanks for the suggestion.
Alfalfa is supposed to be pretty good stuff with a very deep mining tap root like comfrey has. I haven't looked at the nutrient profile of that but it's root is supposed to be even longer than comfrey.
Comfrey has high levels of NPK and is low in most of the other minor nutrients but luckily stinging nettle is exactly the opposite, low PK but high in most every thing else. Almost the perfect pairing!
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They have all sorts of things. The calciums are usually in the warehouse so you need to inquire at the counter. Prilled, powdered, whatever you want. Cheap and food grade.Interesting. We've got a new farm supply store round here that I stopped into for the first time last week. They had big bags of alfalfa meal pellets I may use to heat up my winter compost pile.
Never stopped to look at what else they have in bags. Thanks for the suggestion.
Awesome. That way I could buy a 200 pound bag and use it a half teaspoon at a time.
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What does the length of the tap root have to do with it?
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Prilled. ?? What’s the difference?
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Whatchoo guys smoking today? I’m a Gorilla Zkittlez guy today.
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She’s so frosty it’s almost impossible to capture the colors cuz the trichome blanket keeps picking up and reflecting tons of light. Here’s a try:Whatchoo guys smoking today? I’m a Gorilla Zkittlez guy today.
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prilled is fast acting. Its a super fine powder turned into little pellets and it cooks in quicker. Water soluable-ish.
looking good what you figure about 2 weeks left ?Double Grape
Small but mighty buds?
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Check it out, you gonna like it. I think it's 3-1-2, and loaded with traces, plus growth hormones and proteins. It's a broad spectrum N source just as kelp is a broad spectrum K source.
Use both, now your composting!
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I hope more. They’re small.
mine will be done soon probably with in 2 weeks, i don't think i'll get more than 2 oz maybe 3 if i'm lucky but going to start a drought on them
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Since we are no longer doing the Remo by the book experiment on this auto, now I’m going to nute her Jon style.
Here’s her recipe for the next week:
5 ml Calmag plus iron (Humboldt’s Secret, 2-0-0)
8 ml Micro
8 ml Bloom
10 ml VeloKelp
6 ml MagNifiCal
10 ml Nature’s Candy
0 ml Astro Flower - 4 ml Astro Flower alternating
1 tbsp Bembe (Fox Farms)
1/2 scoop Seaweed supplement (Blue Planet)
See how she likes that.
Since we are no longer doing the Remo by the book experiment on this auto, now I’m going to nute her Jon style.
Here’s her recipe for the next week:
5 ml Calmag plus iron (Humboldt’s Secret, 2-0-0)
8 ml Micro
8 ml Bloom
10 ml VeloKelp
6 ml MagNifiCal
10 ml Nature’s Candy
0 ml Astro Flower - 4 ml Astro Flower alternating
1 tbsp Bembe (Fox Farms)
1/2 scoop Seaweed supplement (Blue Planet)
See how she likes that.