Yep will do. I have two FCE4800’s No complaints the output - 850 PPFD to the near edge on 75% at the moment! Just the cable management and adjustable bars make it a bit untidy and harder to balance than the FC series.
on to the 120 and 73 next!
She's loaded, think the owners daughter and my age, All the Chinese money in the world wouldn't save her from & Co she dallied with me! She said she'd love to have dinner with me, I could pay but she'd pay for the wine and she still wouldn't tell me who they make for!
Looks like it's just gonna be you and me kiddo!
If you go back years (at least since I've been here 6+ years) the advice for AN nutes has been to cut the recommended numbers by 50% if you don't want to burn your plants. I never ran their numbers though.
As I've always said, that's a good way to know if the numbers work. But having done that with Remo and seeing what their K recommendations can do to your leaves, why do it again with a different brand using the exact same salts?
Quite true, but the observations you make when running one set of nutes shouldn't get erased from your mind when running the same product with a different label. I don't care what the name on the bottle is, the effect on the plants will be the same.
Never heard that one before. What she has stated when talking up her own qualifications is this:
FWIW
Hmm…
Shed we talked about my nutes and various witchcraft you have - I never understood how you could do any calculations on mine, DP, as they don't publish any NPK.
While I won't completely ignore it, I do suggest taking the discussion to one of your 7 current threads rather than here. Post what you have there and we can carry on after that.
Yep for sure on that, specific thing.While I won't completely ignore it, I do suggest taking the discussion to one of your 7 current threads rather than here. Post what you have there and we can carry on after that.
Yeah this from Jon is how I’ve always felt. The argument “All Nute Companies Are Out to Screw You By Making You Use Too Much” Makes zero sense.
Well no - actually I hope ai have something to add, Boyo!
I never made that argument so I won't defend it. What I have said is that most of them are selling into the old-timey adage that you need loads of P and K (and some go with the "low N" as well) in flower. Old theories die hard, and if growers believe it to be true then you won't sell as much as your competitors if you don't sell into that theory. Ever looked at what FoxFarms sells as P boosters? They want you to buy a pack of three different bottles with the following numbers: 0-50-10, 0-50-30, 5-45-19.
In coco or soil? Amended soil or plain garden soil?
Yep - thank you! You learned me something about consumer group think there.
Yeah I can well believe if Farmer mate could go one way with one brand you could go the other way with another brand - so vice versa? Just a diff mix? Is that what you’re saying?
That is what I'm saying. It really depends on what's in the bottles and at what ratios. For example, when MC v2 came out it was billed as a one-stop birth-to-harvest nute-in-a-bag of dried powder. It was 9-6-17, so still overselling the K, but it came closer to the hype. The trouble was the low N, so when you got yellowing lowers in flower, adding more would put your K numbers too high, in addition to the higher amount of Ca. Folks would get lockouts and would spend most of the second half of flower with browning leaves and desperate to find a fix.
Yeah I tend to trust first time. Like you are with those nutes. Take then at face value.
sneeking about slowing checking everyone out.
Yeah I wish my drivers were Meanwell. Mine is 650. Forget the driver it’s boxed, but it’s cheaper than Meanwell.
This was from their website in April. But they used to use Meanwell drivers, back maybe June 2022 they changed to their own brand - but actually manufactured by LG. They may have bumped it from 650w to 730w then. Its on the driver label, with Mars and LG logos on. I think its a clue to why my other light guys have it in for them. They won't tell me who they manufacture for. NDA's but do I try, I offered to take the big boss lady out for dinner once
Its pure speculation but I wonder if they were manufacturing for Elon's Home. White label is their main business.
Nick
Ha! Not just me and @InTheShed after all. Excellent discussion guys. I’ll chime in with this: I used Geoflora on the Skywalker this time. I did not go by their recommendation. I went all veg for about the first four weeks, then switched to 50/50, then 75/25 bloom/veg, and didn’t do a straight bloom nute until two or three weeks ago. This was sort of a fledgling attempt to give the plant access to everything and let it choose what it wanted. I also augmented with EWC top dresses every other watering, RGR every ten days, FF Kelp Me Kelp You, and FF Wholly Mackerel. And I couldn’t be happier with the plant. She’s perfect. FWIW.
Ever looked at what FoxFarms sells as P boosters? They want you to buy a pack of three different bottles with the following numbers: 0-50-10, 0-50-30, 5-45-19.
I'd say you're doing exactly the right thing if you're going to switch to their Bloom bag (3-5-5), which is add nitrogen via the Wholly Mackerel (3-1-0). There are many ways to get to healthy plants!
Thanks Shed, yeah I switched to the all bloom last feeding. Now she is so close I believe what I’ve established will bring her home, no need for any more nutes. If it appears that it’ll be more than a week I can always give her a shot of RGR.
With that relatively simple regimen I gave her, in the entire grow she got only (1) shot of 5ml. of Calmag (2-0-0) when I felt she was a bit pale in veg. I don’t consider that enough chemicals to interfere with the goal of a more organic taste.
