Thanks @Venturisix,I get that, but my thinking was, hell, I'm watering them with it (and all my other plants) without the slightest issue, the ph is around 7.1 but doesn't matter for organics, and she shows no signs of deficiency or issues, so what could be the harm of showering her with the same water she gets fed? I was more concerned about water droplet/light burns.
Thanks @Verbalist. Yeah, that's what I meant by worse was irrigation frequency, but it sounds like you have it down to minimizing that as much as one can. Nice trick from Felipe. Thanks, the pics intentionally make her look bigger than she is, she's a little plant with 8 equal sized but small colas. I don't expect more than a couple oz. from her. She had to grow in my repurposed furniture rig, which necessitated a small plant, thus the 3 gal. pot and keeping her short. But it's going to be a couple ounces of really good Zkittlez.Sounds like a nice trick
I wouldn't say worse. Maybe yeah in terms of irrigation frequency. Perlite isn't supposed to hold water, it wicks up pretty good tho. Perlite provides plenty of oxygen for the roots. And plant drinks from the ”res” which mimics like groundwater.
From the beginning used to moist the perlite couple times per day to expand the roots before they get to the res. Now I basicly just pour a liter jug straight on them.Cant be asked to water some kind of circles around the pot edges or other fancy irrigatin methods. Lol. Also one thing Felipe taught me, put finger on the runoff hole, pour water and when theres enough water inside the bucket the perlite starts to float for a bit
PS. Zkittle cola looking juicy for 49 days old
Keep it up!
V
Any concern of mold / bud rot on the wet buds?
Hi @GratefulBud. Not in this scenario, no. But I probably would have a little bit of concern if it weren't for the environment. I'm doing this in the middle of the day, and outdoors, and it's warm and sunny and breezy all the time. Once I tap/shake off the excess water so I don't get burns, the plant dries off very very quickly, like ten minutes. Sure, there's still some moisture from the spray on/in the buds that I can't see, but I felt it would dry fast and not be an issue. Plus, yesterday was the first time I tried it. The one bud was definitely visibly cleaner, and dried fast it seemed, so I went ahead and shower cleaned the whole plant. Then, since the pot is light enough, I actually picked up the plant and turned her upside down and shake/rotated her off like the spin cycle in a dryer, lol. By the time I put the plant back in the rig at sundown it was completely dry. I will only do it once more, right before harvest, and maybe even as the very very last thing I do before I put her in 36 hours of dark, and for that I have an open bedroom closet to use so she won't pick up any bugs after the final wash. My hope is that this mitigates the need to wash them in buckets at the chop. That's just too much of a pain in the ass for me since we're only talking about this one little Zkittlez auto. Granted, doing it this way I don't have the H2O2 bucket, which has to help. But it's *mostly* the same concept, you are simply cleaning off the buds, it's not a mystery. So that's pretty much my deal with the on the plant bud washing. Thanks for asking.
Hi @BubbaKush909! Thanks, and that's awesome, congrats. So I'll begin by saying that anything I say about this, Bill has the bottom line. He's going to direct you to his past thread that had the step by step primer of his prep. And yes, I do something very similar. Yes, you should prep the pot in advance. And what I do is exactly what Bill's layering technique calls for. The only variation I do is, in the top half of the pot I don't layer all the bokashi/frass/perlite/DYNAMYCO/Great White, I mix it thoroughly throughout the soil. So the bottom half of the pot is layered a la Bill and the top half contains the same just completely mixed in.Morning @Jon! I'm sure you'll be very careful but watch the bud rot, not sure I'd like the idea of washing them right before darkness unless you're sure it's dry. I did something similar my first grow, it was outdoors and my problem was more birdshit than bugs. I ended up with massive bud rot. It's disgusting you never want to even see that lol!
Of course I had absolutely no idea what I was doing back then, so there's that. But I'm guessing your humidity is getting pretty bad down there, just be careful!
I'm going back and re-reading your strawberry banana journal. My simple water-only soil plus calmag is going by the wayside and of course I give you all the blame I mean credit
I've already added Great White & Frass to the equation. I'm curious about the Bokasi, and if you're still using the layering concept @Bill284 helped you with? If I went ahead with something like that and used my water-only soil do you think it would be too hot? I'm thinking a layer of soil, a dusting of Great White, Bokasi & Frass, spray with Kelp tea, and repeat. From what I'm reading I don't think the GW, Frass & BK will add a whole lot of nutrients, just make them more accessible? Should I prepare the soil in advance? The water-only soil is being reused, so it shouldn't be as potent as it is when new. Love to hear your thoughts after all this time has gone by, and of course anything @Bill284 has to say or anyone else for that matter.
Thanks my friend and check your pm's have a great day everyone!
Lol!!! No, my friend, I wouldn't say that. The Jack is a 420FastBuds freebie. It's in a five, so she has a fighting chance, but at the end of the day, regardless of what she may look like in the pictures (I'm pretty good at making small plants look bigger than they are, lol), she's just a plain, old, everyday, nothing special about her autoflower. That said, she is well grown and happy and super healthy, and JH is a good yielder. I expect between 3 and 4 ounces finished off her. This is about average I'd say. I rarely grow one less than 3 z's now, and a 3-ouncer would be rare. I'm usually more in the 5-6 ounce range. I've never grown an XL, just this one Double XL. This Jack is not an XL. I would imagine a single XL comes in somewhere between a plant like Jack and a Titan.
I'm gutted. Are you saying this is like the Wizard of Oz and the man behind the curtain?? It's all a big charade?? Man, you really had me there. Here I thought you were growing these ridiculously impressive plants and now you're saying they're all, what, only a few inches tall in reality?
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Morning @Jon! I'm sure you'll be very careful but watch the bud rot, not sure I'd like the idea of washing them right before darkness unless you're sure it's dry. I did something similar my first grow, it was outdoors and my problem was more birdshit than bugs. I ended up with massive bud rot. It's disgusting you never want to even see that lol!
Of course I had absolutely no idea what I was doing back then, so there's that. But I'm guessing your humidity is getting pretty bad down there, just be careful!
I'm going back and re-reading your strawberry banana journal. My simple water-only soil plus calmag is going by the wayside and of course I give you all the blame I mean credit
I've already added Great White & Frass to the equation. I'm curious about the Bokasi, and if you're still using the layering concept @Bill284 helped you with? If I went ahead with something like that and used my water-only soil do you think it would be too hot? I'm thinking a layer of soil, a dusting of Great White, Bokasi & Frass, spray with Kelp tea, and repeat. From what I'm reading I don't think the GW, Frass & BK will add a whole lot of nutrients, just make them more accessible? Should I prepare the soil in advance? The water-only soil is being reused, so it shouldn't be as potent as it is when new. Love to hear your thoughts after all this time has gone by, and of course anything @Bill284 has to say or anyone else for that matter.
Thanks my friend and check your pm's have a great day everyone!
Good morning gentlemen hope your having a good day.
Thank you @Bill284! I'm using soil, I've got the organic nutes, I have tea and I need to get some molasses. I also have frass, great white & I just ordered bokashi it will be here by tomorrow thanks Zon!Good morning gentlemen hope your having a good day.
The layering technique is fantastic for growing lots of roots fast.
Keeps air flowing through the pot.
I do it top to bottom.
I originally designed it for air pots but bags love it aswell.
Theses additives aren't nutrients though, they are root health products that increase nutrient uptake and availability.
You still have to feed or have some nutrients in your soil
The things I add. Bokashi creates a fungi that's symbiotic with your roots.
It also helps with nutrient breakdown and uptake.
I keep it in the grow medium all the time.
The sooner you put it in the better.
Frass has billions of microbes , all beneficial to the roots.
Keeps them healthy and strong.
A spray of kelp water activates them right away.
Just mix in when potting.
Same with the mycorrhizae.
I use @DYNOMYCO now exclusively.
It works in combination with the Bokashi and Frass.
Fantastic stuff designed specifically for cannabis.
A brilliant inoculant with lots of benefits.
I recommend the combination of this trio highly.
A tea with molasses once a week Keeps them healthy and multiplying.
Here is the thing I grow roots and for my efforts I receive a beautiful healthy plant in return.
Big healthy roots are going to produce the best buds possible every time.
Mix it all through the grow medium as well as layering for added effect.
Just a light sprinkle, and spray.
As John mentioned there is a pictorial in my Gorilla Glue clone thread.
One other thing I like is Potassium Silicate.
Strengthens cell walls, makes your lady stronger and more stress resistant.
.5 ml in plain water once a week from the second week right up to harvest.
Hope I covered everything.
Any Questions my door is always open.
Stay safe
Bill
PH is irrelevant to an organic grow. You never have to ph unless you're using chemical nutes. And you're prepping the pot a few days in advance. I soak it. Get the entire medium wet. It will dry some by the time you transplant and you just begin watering accordingly.
Sorry Azi, you think I'm Superman or something? The whole grow is tiny autos. I'm just really really good at photoshopping. I sometimes feel guilty with the deception, but management knows and we're planning a big reveal at the total overall grow weight session. We expect a total of 4.5 ounces from both tents and the Zkittlez together. Maybe 5.I'm gutted. Are you saying this is like the Wizard of Oz and the man behind the curtain?? It's all a big charade?? Man, you really had me there. Here I thought you were growing these ridiculously impressive plants and now you're saying they're all, what, only a few inches tall in reality?
Man, I can get that in my own grow. So disappointed.
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NICE BK! You're almost set. If you have the coin, get some silica product as Bill said, or mono-silicic acid in a high concentration. Then you'll really be set. You are going to have bigger plants, and the likelihood of your buds needing more support than maybe you're used to is strong. The silica provides that strength, and it also does more for increasing nutrient uptake than any of this other stuff, as it affects the way the cells in the plants grow directly.They will grow larger, stronger cells and focus that growth in the stems, at the same time as it makes the plant widen out it's transport canals. You will actually see the difference if you look closely at the center vein on a big fan leaf. Bigger tunnels allow more lanes of cars, right? Ok, your cars are your nutrients. See? It's one of those things that when I started to use it, after the very first time I knew I'd never do a grow without it.Thank you @Bill284! I'm using soil, I've got the organic nutes, I have tea and I need to get some molasses. I also have frass, great white & I just ordered bokashi it will be here by tomorrow thanks Zon!
Just wondering how thick your layers are? How many layers would you make in a 5 gal bag? Never mind, I'll go read your tutorial then come back with any questions
