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Zkittlez Auto

Why is it Zkittlez with two Zs, anyway? I guess it has more of that Z-terpene than it does the S-terpene?
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Thank you @Bill284! I'm using soil, I've got the organic nutes, I have tea and I need to get some molasses. I also have frass, great white & I just ordered bokashi it will be here by tomorrow thanks Zon!

Just wondering how thick your layers are? How many layers would you make in a 5 gal bag? Never mind, I'll go read your tutorial then come back with any questions :goof:
There is no set amount of layers.
I just keep layering until it's full.
Inch to 2 inches per layer.
And just keep going until you reach the top. :thumb:

Stay safe :cheesygrinsmiley:
Bill
 
There is no set amount of layers.
I just keep layering until it's full.
Inch to 2 inches per layer.
And just keep going until you reach the top. :thumb:

Stay safe :cheesygrinsmiley:
Bill
I thought you said to do exactly 7.6884 layers?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
I thought you said to do exactly 7.6884 layers?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
That's only for you, just to make you work a little harder. :rofl:
Can't have it too easy for you, your too good.:thumb:

Stay safe :cheesygrinsmiley:
Bill
 
That's only for you, just to make you work a little harder. :rofl:
Can't have it too easy for you, your too good.:thumb:

Stay safe :cheesygrinsmiley:
Bill
Any sensei worth their salt knows to push their students. Thank you sir.
 
I started thinking about it, layers could mean anything from 2-3 to infinity :yahoo:
Correct.
You can make them thicker and thinner.
The variety is great for roots.
They end up all over the pot.
Every nook and cranny.
Roots just shoot throughout.
As apposed to a solid thick pot where gowth is restricted. :rolleyes:
Works similar to hydro where growth is not restricted :cool:
Night and Day :surf:
Big Roots = Big Fruits, hehe.

Stay safe :cheesygrinsmiley:
Bill
 
I agree…with a lineage of grape ape and grapefruit, how they came up with the name zkittlez is beyond me
EXACTLY. Wouldn't you expect something with Grape in the name? I think they chose the name Skittles because they thought it smelled like a Skittles candy, and then changed the Ss to Zs for whatever reason. Don't think the industry is mainstream enough yet that the change to Zs had anything to do with them being worried the strain would take off nationwide (which it has, fricking exploded, right?) and they'd hear from Skittles' lawyers. Lol. Obviously I'm guessing but I think they changed it just to be cool. Lmao.
 
Be very careful with layers. A layer of wormcastings for instance, more than an inch thick, can actually restrict water flow in a container, resulting in gush outs when the layer finally is broken through. Another fear with wormcastings is that eventually they break down completely and go away, leaving a void in your soil. Voids eventually collapse and cause much concern in a tub who's level suddenly sank on one side. Thin layers are great, but thick layers of just about any raw input, should be avoided. This is why I also like using vertical spikes, drilled down into a container with a column of raw nutrients waiting for the roots to find, without restricting water flow from top to bottom.
 
I started thinking about it, layers could mean anything from 2-3 to infinity :yahoo:
I thought you said lawyers for a second, and I was gonna say it's closer to infinity. Lmao.
 
Be very careful with layers. A layer of wormcastings for instance, more than an inch thick, can actually restrict water flow in a container, resulting in gush outs when the layer finally is broken through. Another fear with wormcastings is that eventually they break down completely and go away, leaving a void in your soil. Voids eventually collapse and cause much concern in a tub who's level suddenly sank on one side. Thin layers are great, but thick layers of just about any raw input, should be avoided. This is why I also like using vertical spikes, drilled down into a container with a column of raw nutrients waiting for the roots to find.
This is why I choose to mix half my pot all together with it, and my layers in the lower half are little more than a salt shaker type sprinkling each one. I know the stuff will all collapse under water weight at different rates and I am afraid I might screw it up with too thick a layer and create havoc in my pot in terms of water runoff. It's my only tweak to Bill's system.
 
Welcome to the Jungle
(is it really necessary to tell you what song by what band this post is supposed to be read to?)


Ok, here's another attempt at showing the canopy. This time I propped the camera above the door opening and sat it on the extra CFM bar I had the foresight to get a set of. That allowed a steady hand at least while the camera is way above my head, but necessitated taking the pictures blindly. Took me a couple attempts to even get this, lol, so forgive the size and whatever other photographic deficiencies you see. I think you'll get the general idea.

Fan Side Canopy Left

Fan Side Canopy Right

Front Side Canopy Left

Front Side Canopy Right

This is the very lowest bud on the Jack Herer auto.
Props to @InTheShed on this, because it is via his guidance/teachings that I became a member of the #noflarf club. Noflarf club members enjoy benefits such as this being the worst bud on a typical plant. :cheesygrinsmiley: :cheesygrinsmiley: :cheesygrinsmiley:

Heh.
 
Welcome to the Jungle
(is it really necessary to tell you what song by what band this post is supposed to be read to?)


Ok, here's another attempt at showing the canopy. This time I propped the camera above the door opening and sat it on the extra CFM bar I had the foresight to get a set of. That allowed a steady hand at least while the camera is way above my head, but necessitated taking the pictures blindly. Took me a couple attempts to even get this, lol, so forgive the size and whatever other photographic deficiencies you see. I think you'll get the general idea.

Fan Side Canopy Left

Fan Side Canopy Right

Front Side Canopy Left

Front Side Canopy Right

This is the very lowest bud on the Jack Herer auto. Props to @InTheShed on this, because it is via his guidance/teachings that I became a member of the #noflarf club. Noflarf club members enjoy benefits such as this being the worst bud on a typical plant. :cheesygrinsmiley: :cheesygrinsmiley: :cheesygrinsmiley:

Heh.
If one were interested in learning this no flarf procedure, where would one find it?
 
If one were interested in learning this no flarf procedure, where would one find it?
Hey @Venturisix - well, not exactly sure it's a "procedure" per se, it's really just the idea that you are very aggressive in term of cleaning out growth that if allowed to stay will only develop into flarf. Obviously the lower, smaller, crappier branches mostly. It requires continued attention to your undercarriage as that flarfy crap will continue to develop through like mid flower. I've been removing it periodically, and you saw how clean it is downstairs for me. Same thing with Titan in the other tent.

But to directly answer your question, I picked up the specifics from @InTheShed for the most part, along with a bunch of others you see all the time who also do this. So I would post Shedster the direct question in his perpetual journal. He's very good about providing detailed, direct answers as you probably know.

Fair enough?
 
This is why I choose to mix half my pot all together with it, and my layers in the lower half are little more than a salt shaker type sprinkling each one. I know the stuff will all collapse under water weight at different rates and I am afraid I might screw it up with too thick a layer and create havoc in my pot in terms of water runoff. It's my only tweak to Bill's system.
I thoroughly mix everything through the soil and let it sit for a year before adding microbes and fresh perlite to it.
First I layer perlite sprinkled with microbes then the mixed soil over top.
" originally coco "
Making sure to cover the layer of soil completely with perlite each time.
Right to the top.
Then I hump the pot up in the center with soil.
After a month any settling only makes the top of the pot level out nicely.
When done properly.
Therefore layering right to the top works great.
Small roots shoot horizontally picking up surface moisture.
And the tap shoots through filling the balance of the pot.
Originally designed for coco this method is excellent for root growth and health.
I've adapted it for my soil grow this summer.
I'll do another pictorial on the soil procedure.
As Emilya mentioned thicker layers of soil defeat the purpose.
But there is no set depth for each layer.
I encourage you to experiment and make changes.
If we don't push the set procedures to their limits we will stagnate.
" What if ? " the greatest 2 words in the English Language.
If we don't question everything we won't learn anything.
Feel free to use that one Jon. :thumb:
:surf::surf::surf::surf::meatballs::meatballs::meatballs::meatballs:

Stay safe :cheesygrinsmiley:
Bill
 
I thoroughly mix everything through the soil and let it sit for a year before adding microbes and fresh perlite to it.
First I layer perlite sprinkled with microbes then the mixed soil over top.
" originally coco "
Making sure to cover the layer of soil completely with perlite each time.
Right to the top.
Then I hump the pot up in the center with soil.
After a month any settling only makes the top of the pot level out nicely.
When done properly.
Therefore layering right to the top works great.
Small roots shoot horizontally picking up surface moisture.
And the tap shoots through filling the balance of the pot.
Originally designed for coco this method is excellent for root growth and health.
I've adapted it for my soil grow this summer.
I'll do another pictorial on the soil procedure.
As Emilya mentioned thicker layers of soil defeat the purpose.
But there is no set depth for each layer.
I encourage you to experiment and make changes.
If we don't push the set procedures to their limits we will stagnate.
" What if ? " the greatest 2 words in the English Language.
If we don't question everything we won't learn anything.
Feel free to use that one Jon. :thumb:
:surf::surf::surf::surf::meatballs::meatballs::meatballs::meatballs:

Stay safe :cheesygrinsmiley:
Bill
Ha! You know me now, Bill, I LOVE that and will definitely steal if from you with glee. And I totally get your process and it's value, not arguing or saying my way was an improvement on your process, just my personal tweak to try exactly what you mention here. And yes - the first sign of intelligence is asking questions. When you understand a concept as stated and begin to think "how can I improve on this?" and then enact whatever actions it takes to bring your vision to life - well, that's when we become the best of what human beings are. Imho.
 
Three Fun Pictures for Thursday

1/2. This is a bud shot and a canopy shot from my very first grow ever.
Pineapple Upside Down Cake (not HSC version) bagseed from a dispensary 1/8th that was 31+% THC. The purchase of that 1/8th and the first time I had ever had seeds in my possession just happened by chance to coincide with when I received the first Trump check for $1200, remember that one? That was what funded my entry into growing weed. This is my first 5x5, my first set of lights, a pair of Maxsisun 1200 watt (but really only pulled 256 each, lmao, and one is in play now in the outdoor furniture rig) old school blurples, a 6" AC Infinity fan and filter, and six plants in 8 gallon plastic pots with barely any drainholes. Lmao!!!!!!!!

3. This is one of my favorite pictures of the Apple Blossom, who had the 3x3 before Titan.

Ok, ready for Friday now.
 
It's reflecting off the interior curve of the camera lens. :)

Is that one of those things that should start with "this is just my opinion"?
Thanks @InTheShed, figured someone would be able to confirm that yes, it's my camera ignorance! Well, it's a pretty cool effect. Not PHOTM worthy, but good enough for a journal pic.

Interesting question and I appreciate the way you asked it. I considered what you say. I am aware that you feel ph-ing is never necessary. We disagree on this point. I feel that while you *may* get away with that, you very well *may not.* In organics the 'crobes are simply going to take what they want and the ph level is irrelevant to them. You'd have to be in some totally impossible range for it to matter, in either direction. In soil with chemical nutes, to not ph, in my humble opinion and with respect, is the lazy man's way out. As soon as the soil and pot becomes immersed in the wrong ph, let's say at 7.6 cuz your tap water sucks, you will begin to see issues. Again, this would be true on either end of the spectrum. Not to mention that only in a specific and relatively narrow range of ph can the plant most effectively uptake chemical nutes, and it's way to one's advantage to operate in that range. That's my understanding, and it is backed up by my own experience and mistakes in every case without fail. It is also supported by science I am not capable of explaining here but @Emilya has explained it to me before. So when I consider all of those factors, I decided to not use the disclaimer and if people wanted to question, disagree, yell at me, or discuss, we could do it and it would be alright. Had I posted this in your thread, btw, I CERTAINLY would have used the disclaimer.

Hope that clarifies in a non-argumentative and respectful manner as it is intended.
 
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