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I knew you'd get it!!! So....is it blasphemy or no? Lol.Her solos just got a bit longer and more rambling...
Jon's Dedicated Fruity Pebble Cookies Grow Plus The Mystery Plant
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Personally? I'm not a worshipper of idols. 
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It's comments like that when I know we're on the same page on some things. Me neither, I outgrew Dr. Seuss a long time ago, along with fairy tales. The answer to my question therefore is simple and just basic math.Personally? I'm not a worshipper of idols.
No god = There's no such THING as blasphemy
H.E.H.
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I promise she won't go Chuckie on you. Not now, anyway. She's wasted.
steelcurtain22
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Wow, just wow! I just caught myself up and begeeze man, unbelievable, beautiful with a tad of jealous all wrapped into one. Amazing garden @Jon, when I retire, my time will be for bigger grows! 
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Thanks @steelcurtain22! Bigger is fun. It comes with it's own set of challenges I'm finding.Wow, just wow! I just caught myself up and begeeze man, unbelievable, beautiful with a tad of jealous all wrapped into one. Amazing garden @Jon, when I retire, my time will be for bigger grows!
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Jeez, @Bill284, how right you are. Now that we're post stretch and firing on all cylinders, it's back to all I do is water the plants over and over and over again. I don't even know how much they're drinking now, all I do is mix a five gallon feed bucket and keep them wet til it's gone. A couple fortunate things are for one, Titan is on the same feed schedule as Elora and Fulvia. So one bucket does all three plants with the same mix. Thank god. If I want to add molasses or Terpinator to Titan's mix (too early for the tent plants yet, imho) I just fill a gallon of feed from the bucket and then add the molasses or whatever and re-PH it. Easy. So that's good. It's also good that once you hit flower, if you're using the PB feed chart to the letter, the only ingredient that changes the entire time of flower is the Big Data. And all that does is make a 1 ml hump for two weeks in the beginning. It's basically the same the whole time and I can mix it accurately in my sleep at this point. And here's the VERY best part. My hose water here comes in around 7.1 to 7.3, depending on the day. Every single blend of PB feed since we hit flower and the mix got pretty much never changing, when I ph after stirring up the bucket it almost without fail reads 5.78 to 5.85. That narrow of a range every time like clockwork. Both of those are way close enough to 5.8, so I have not bothered ph-ing the mix since flower started. I can't tell you how much easier this makes life. Well, you already know, lol. Huge time saver. Just lucky, but regardless of the ph, anyone's tap water will get them close with PB if you're using coco/5.8. Mix, stir, feed. That's it. So I got that going for me. Lmao.
Ok, it's been ten minutes. I gotta go water the plants again.
Ok, it's been ten minutes. I gotta go water the plants again.
BubbaKush909
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Morning @Jon! How many total gallons per day are they drinking? That's crazy. I'm the same way but much lower scale. 1/2 gal of tap water. 3 droppers calmag. 2 droppers silica if I'm using it. 5 droppers of tea. 6 drops of pH down. pH = 6.1.
I'll get ahead of todays pics - the plants look great, Titan is amazing lol!!
Still waiting on my delivery. It was supposed to be here by the 9th. Hope it's today.
Have a great day my friend!
I'll get ahead of todays pics - the plants look great, Titan is amazing lol!!
Still waiting on my delivery. It was supposed to be here by the 9th. Hope it's today.
Have a great day my friend!
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Morning @BubbaKush909! Well, I mix a 5 gallon bucket every night before bed so I can feed them as soon as the lights come on, at 6 am. That bucket gets divided between the three coco plants, Titan, Fulvia, and Elora. Then I mix another 5 gallon bucket at lunchtime, and feed Fulvia and Elora around then. Titan waits until around 4 pm. Reason for the difference is that Titan's day is 20 hours, the other's only 12. Anyway, after that second feeding there's still some left in the bucket, and Titan gets that, her third feeding of the day, before I go to bed. She wakes up thirsty every morning. It's crazy. So between the three plants, around 10 gallons a day, sometimes maybe 9 or 9.5. Btw - that's 10 gallons worth of PB nutes EVERY DAY. How fast do you think I'm burning through them? I have a full set arriving in two days, and may have to get another before the end of the grow. It costs a few bucks extra in nutes to do coco, that's for sure, and a downside for some people. I get that.
These were fun....
Lol a nugget pillow. That would be the next best seller in Ali or Wish
If you're going to later add Terpinator to the feed mix - don't let it sit for too long!
What I've noticed in my buckets and/or runoff gutters Terpinator quickly creates a film on the surface of the water when its standing still. Don't know if it's totally harmless, but I guess in time it could start forming crystals which could affect on other compounds. I feel youOk, it's been ten minutes. I gotta go water the plants again.
My plants in 5L 100% perlite Hempies needs be watered three times a day if I want to keep the water in the rez constantly available. Have nice day!
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Thanks @Verbalist, and thanks for the head's up on the sitting. It's not an issue as I don't add those two ingredients until right before feeding. According to the PB guys, you can mix their nutes as directed and let them sit up to a week!!! So I use the week 4 feed week they're on, mix the bucket, and that's like the base mix. Only Titan gets very occasional tweaks to this mix, and only those two ingredients, maybe every other day. The other cool thing that just worked out this way is that my 3x3 AC unit blows it heated discharge air out under the nute table, which keeps the surface warm. Not hot by any means, but you can feel it's warm That keeps my molasses nice and thin and pouring real easy and mixing real easy. No more cranking my wrist on my string hand with 8 pound gallons of water shaking like a maraca. Lol.Lol a nugget pillow. That would be the next best seller in Ali or Wish
If you're going to later add Terpinator to the feed mix - don't let it sit for too long!
I feel you
Have nice day!
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I would suspect hempy is even worse than coco. Have you had to water that often since the very beginning?
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Zkttlez Auto
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Day 49
Good morning Feed Master Jon.Jeez, @Bill284, how right you are. Now that we're post stretch and firing on all cylinders, it's back to all I do is water the plants over and over and over again. I don't even know how much they're drinking now, all I do is mix a five gallon feed bucket and keep them wet til it's gone. A couple fortunate things are for one, Titan is on the same feed schedule as Elora and Fulvia. So one bucket does all three plants with the same mix. Thank god. If I want to add molasses or Terpinator to Titan's mix (too early for the tent plants yet, imho) I just fill a gallon of feed from the bucket and then add the molasses or whatever and re-PH it. Easy. So that's good. It's also good that once you hit flower, if you're using the PB feed chart to the letter, the only ingredient that changes the entire time of flower is the Big Data. And all that does is make a 1 ml hump for two weeks in the beginning. It's basically the same the whole time and I can mix it accurately in my sleep at this point. And here's the VERY best part. My hose water here comes in around 7.1 to 7.3, depending on the day. Every single blend of PB feed since we hit flower and the mix got pretty much never changing, when I ph after stirring up the bucket it almost without fail reads 5.78 to 5.85. That narrow of a range every time like clockwork. Both of those are way close enough to 5.8, so I have not bothered ph-ing the mix since flower started. I can't tell you how much easier this makes life. Well, you already know, lol. Huge time saver. Just lucky, but regardless of the ph, anyone's tap water will get them close with PB if you're using coco/5.8. Mix, stir, feed. That's it. So I got that going for me. Lmao.
Ok, it's been ten minutes. I gotta go water the plants again.
That's brilliant about the ph.
I went through gallons of ph down. $$ Gets tiresome.
No idea what mine is here but I doubt it's good, judging by green lines it causes.
I'm going to use river water as much as possible.
Need a little gas pump, or solar would be nice.
I've got 2nd root canal today so I'm eating eatables right now
Been up since 3 so not exactly a wake and bake but I'll take it.
Going to smoke some terp sauce and get baked real good before Stacey picks me up..
Better make sure your well stocked in RX , at 5 gal a shot that's too much math. Hehe
That's why I mixed 300 gallons a shot, you just go through ph down like a MF.
Think about that every feken day.
Feed feed feeed feeeed feeeeed and feeeeeed some more
Hehe.Have a great day Jon.
Oh please post a pic in my purple pics thread thanking GF for me please.
Stay safe
Bill
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You got it Bill, sorry, should have thought of that myself.Good morning Feed Master Jon.
That's brilliant about the ph.
I went through gallons of ph down. $$ Gets tiresome.
No idea what mine is but I doubt it's good, judging by green lines it causes.
I'm going to use river water as much as possible.
Need a little gas pump, or solar would be nice.
I've got 2nd root canal today so I'm eating eatables right now
Been up since 3 so not exactly a wake and bake but I'll take it.
Going to smoke some terp sauce and get baked real good before Stacey picks me up..
Better make sure your well stocked in RX , at 5 gal a shot that's too much math. Hehe
That's why I mixed 300 gallons a shot, you just go through ph down like a MF.
Think about that every feken day.
Feed feed feeed feeeed feeeeed and feeeeeed some more
Have a great day Jon.
Oh please post a pic in my purple pics thread thanking GF for me please.
Stay safe
Bill
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Oh please post a pic in my purple pics thread thanking GF for me please.Good morning Feed Master Jon.
That's brilliant about the ph.
I went through gallons of ph down. $$ Gets tiresome.
No idea what mine is but I doubt it's good, judging by green lines it causes.
I'm going to use river water as much as possible.
Need a little gas pump, or solar would be nice.
I've got 2nd root canal today so I'm eating eatables right now
Been up since 3 so not exactly a wake and bake but I'll take it.
Going to smoke some terp sauce and get baked real good before Stacey picks me up..
Better make sure your well stocked in RX , at 5 gal a shot that's too much math. Hehe
That's why I mixed 300 gallons a shot, you just go through ph down like a MF.
Think about that every feken day.
Feed feed feeed feeeed feeeeed and feeeeeed some more
Have a great day Jon.
Oh please post a pic in my purple pics thread thanking GF for me please.
Stay safe
Bill
Done.
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Jungle Scenes
Elora and Spud Bud
Here's a few pics to show that the plants are having no issues whatsoever at the extremely high ppfd numbers, ie, around 1300-1350 across the canopy.
1. This is the bud top on Elora closest to the light.
2. Same bud, ultra zoomed.
As you can see, no pistil damage, browning, leaf curling, or any other signs of light stress. The story is the same with the Spud Bud plant.
3. Spud Bud cola standing guard over the two Fulvia colas in the background.
4. Same cola, this one taken using the flash. Wow. Almost real colors!
Again, you see zero signs of light stress whatsoever.
5. This one is truly ridiculous in my experience, anyway. This is a branch of Elora stacking, with my hand in the picture for scale. Note the similarity in size of the cotton balls all the way up, as well as the pretty decent internodal spacing and the consistency of it in terms of the space between each one. The thought that this might actually all grow into a single cola, and that will be repeated on all of them, is keeping me up at night. Don't think that's going to happen, but is it? I never grew plants big like this and I honestly don't know.
Elora and Spud Bud
Here's a few pics to show that the plants are having no issues whatsoever at the extremely high ppfd numbers, ie, around 1300-1350 across the canopy.
1. This is the bud top on Elora closest to the light.
2. Same bud, ultra zoomed.
As you can see, no pistil damage, browning, leaf curling, or any other signs of light stress. The story is the same with the Spud Bud plant.
3. Spud Bud cola standing guard over the two Fulvia colas in the background.
4. Same cola, this one taken using the flash. Wow. Almost real colors!
Again, you see zero signs of light stress whatsoever.
5. This one is truly ridiculous in my experience, anyway. This is a branch of Elora stacking, with my hand in the picture for scale. Note the similarity in size of the cotton balls all the way up, as well as the pretty decent internodal spacing and the consistency of it in terms of the space between each one. The thought that this might actually all grow into a single cola, and that will be repeated on all of them, is keeping me up at night. Don't think that's going to happen, but is it? I never grew plants big like this and I honestly don't know.
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Trying Something New
Here you go @Azimuth, you dig the impromptu experiments, you get the tag. Lol. I'm calling this one the "on the plant bud wash." I was watering the Zkittlez, who dries out really fast in the 3 gal. pot. She sits in the yard up on a solid metal folding chair by day, to soak up the sun. To water her, all I do is drive my ass over to her with the hose, set the nozzle to "shower," and water away. The shower setting creates a nice hollow column of water which is easily controlled and altered to provide more or less water pressure. Good hose nozzle, props to stepdad on that one.
Anyway, as I water I see what I always see and try my best to remove each morning. Takes about five minutes. I remove any little bugs which got stuck in a mess of trichomes and died there overnight. This happens. I hate them. They don't seem to do much to hurt the plant, nothing I can see, but they are quite an eyesore and you wouldn't want to smoke them. My method of removing the dead ones (they're tiny) was to simply grab them with my fingertips one at a time. Pain in the ass. But then I started thinking about the rain. Like, the fact that it does. And when it does, buds growing outside get wet. I have never heard an outdoor grower say that rain destroyed his trichomes.
So, I tried, on one bud, an on-the-plant wash. I set the power of the shower to the appropriate level (pretty lowish, but solid) and spray washed the entire bud top to bottom. I chose one that had three dead bugs on it I could see. When I was done the bud was pristine. Then, after the picture with the water spots, I tapped off the leaves so that there wouldn't be drops of water on leaves to focus the sun like a magnifying glass and burn holes in them (yes, when I foliar spray I do it at lights out). I'm going to check it after it's all dry and compare to the bud next door and if they look the same the plant gets a shower.
Here's the picture right after I was done the spraying:
And here's the result a few minutes after tapping/shaking off the excess water. Pretty clean looking.
Of course, now I'm wondering, does anyone else do this? Is there a reason not to? Anyone?
Here you go @Azimuth, you dig the impromptu experiments, you get the tag. Lol. I'm calling this one the "on the plant bud wash." I was watering the Zkittlez, who dries out really fast in the 3 gal. pot. She sits in the yard up on a solid metal folding chair by day, to soak up the sun. To water her, all I do is drive my ass over to her with the hose, set the nozzle to "shower," and water away. The shower setting creates a nice hollow column of water which is easily controlled and altered to provide more or less water pressure. Good hose nozzle, props to stepdad on that one.
Anyway, as I water I see what I always see and try my best to remove each morning. Takes about five minutes. I remove any little bugs which got stuck in a mess of trichomes and died there overnight. This happens. I hate them. They don't seem to do much to hurt the plant, nothing I can see, but they are quite an eyesore and you wouldn't want to smoke them. My method of removing the dead ones (they're tiny) was to simply grab them with my fingertips one at a time. Pain in the ass. But then I started thinking about the rain. Like, the fact that it does. And when it does, buds growing outside get wet. I have never heard an outdoor grower say that rain destroyed his trichomes.
So, I tried, on one bud, an on-the-plant wash. I set the power of the shower to the appropriate level (pretty lowish, but solid) and spray washed the entire bud top to bottom. I chose one that had three dead bugs on it I could see. When I was done the bud was pristine. Then, after the picture with the water spots, I tapped off the leaves so that there wouldn't be drops of water on leaves to focus the sun like a magnifying glass and burn holes in them (yes, when I foliar spray I do it at lights out). I'm going to check it after it's all dry and compare to the bud next door and if they look the same the plant gets a shower.
Here's the picture right after I was done the spraying:
And here's the result a few minutes after tapping/shaking off the excess water. Pretty clean looking.
Of course, now I'm wondering, does anyone else do this? Is there a reason not to? Anyone?
Venturisix
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The only problem I see with throwing normal city water on a plant, is that any chlorine, or whatever else In the water will dry on the plant leaves, or if it’s during the day, the chlorine will magnify and such in the sun. Rain water is 0ppm I hear so that shouldn’t hurt it if it’s raining in the sun.Trying Something New
Here you go @Azimuth, you dig the impromptu experiments, you get the tag. Lol. I'm calling this one the "on the plant bud wash." I was watering the Zkittlez, who dries out really fast in the 3 gal. pot. She sits in the yard up on a solid metal folding chair by day, to soak up the sun. To water her, all I do is drive my ass over to her with the hose, set the nozzle to "shower," and water away. The shower setting creates a nice hollow column of water which is easily controlled and altered to provide more or less water pressure. Good hose nozzle, props to stepdad on that one.
Anyway, as I water I see what I always see and try my best to remove each morning. Takes about five minutes. I remove any little bugs which got stuck in a mess of trichomes and died there overnight. This happens. I hate them. They don't seem to do much to hurt the plant, nothing I can see, but they are quite an eyesore and you wouldn't want to smoke them. My method of removing the dead ones (they're tiny) was to simply grab them with my fingertips one at a time. Pain in the ass. But then I started thinking about the rain. Like, the fact that it does. And when it does, buds growing outside get wet. I have never heard an outdoor grower say that rain destroyed his trichomes.
So, I tried, on one bud, an on-the-plant wash. I set the power of the shower to the appropriate level (pretty lowish, but solid) and spray washed the entire bud top to bottom. I chose one that had three dead bugs on it I could see. When I was done the bud was pristine. Then, after the picture with the water spots, I tapped off the leaves so that there wouldn't be drops of water on leaves to focus the sun like a magnifying glass and burn holes in them (yes, when I foliar spray I do it at lights out). I'm going to check it after it's all dry and compare to the bud next door and if they look the same the plant gets a shower.
Here's the picture right after I was done the spraying:
And here's the result a few minutes after tapping/shaking off the excess water. Pretty clean looking.
Of course, now I'm wondering, does anyone else do this? Is there a reason not to? Anyone?
Sounds like a nice trick
I wouldn't say worse. Maybe yeah in terms of irrigation frequency. Perlite isn't supposed to hold water, it wicks up pretty good tho. Perlite provides plenty of oxygen for the roots. And plant drinks from the ”res” which mimics like groundwater.
From the beginning used to moist the perlite couple times per day to expand the roots before they get to the res. Now I basicly just pour a liter jug straight on them.
Cant be asked to water some kind of circles around the pot edges or other fancy irrigatin methods. Lol. Also one thing Felipe taught me, put finger on the runoff hole, pour water and when theres enough water inside the bucket the perlite starts to float for a bit Satisfying as fek.PS. Zkittle cola looking juicy for 49 days old
Keep it up!
V