Jon's Dedicated Fruity Pebble Cookies Grow Plus The Mystery Plant

[Kanno26]

Titan
Further Maintenance

This is one spoiled plant. The things I do for this girl. I do and I do and I do for you, baby, what else do you want? Oh, some support because your branches are beginning to fall down and drag the plant in all kinds of weird directions? Sure, we can do that, no problem.

I cleaned up underneath, gave her the night time watering, and then chose four spots around the plant to support and try to make her stand up evenly.

This first picture shows you my cleaned up undercarriage and support system.

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Here are two closeups on how I supported the branches. There are many spots like this on every branch, which makes it pretty easy to find a solid spot to support from.

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Here is how the undercarriage and bottom of the plant look after installing the support system.

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And as you can see, she's standing almost perfectly straight now, with all the lower ring buds up nice and high.

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Here's one bud closeup to show you that the frost train has pulled into the station big time now.

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And this last one was just for fun, I call it "fun with editing tools," lol. Pretty cool colors though i think. I dig it.

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• May 8, 2022

Fricking spoiled ass plant.

Mrs. @Jon, your titan looks really great, how old is he and how much does he still have in front of him? It looks really monstrous.

 

[Azimuth]

Really big plants create their own issues, but well worth the extra attention from the looks of it.

Pretty impressive there Mr. Jon!

 

[StoneOtter]

Aphids on the other hand, only eat cannabis in my yard!

Have you thought of a sex pheromone baited aphid trap?

 

[Jon]

We get leaf miners here but they stay clear of my cannabis because they are in love with my lemon trees! Same with the spider mites. Never seen them on my weed because they seem happy on other plants.

Aphids on the other hand, only eat cannabis in my yard!

Great. Azi was more right than I thought he was. I really should have asked here first. Everyone knows immediately exactly what they are. Dummy me.

 

[Jon]

Mrs. @Jon, your titan looks really great, how old is he and how much does he still have in front of him? It looks really monstrous.

Hi @Kanno26. She (plants are girls, silly) is on day 63 today. Specs say 10-11 weeks from seed. That would put us, in theory, about 14 days out at the longer end of 77 days.

Does it look like this plant will be ready to harvest in 14 days? Not possible. She's going longer than 77 days.

Thanks Kanno, she's a beast alright. NextLight, Prescription Blend, and Growers Choice have done excellent work on this grow. Me? All I do is manage two of those three.

 

[Kanno26]

Hi @Kanno26. She (plants are girls, silly) is on day 63 today. Specs say 10-11 weeks from seed. That would put us, in theory, about 14 days out at the longer end of 77 days.

Does it look like this plant will be ready to harvest in 14 days? Not possible. She's going longer than 77 days.

Thanks Kanno, she's a beast alright. NextLight, Prescription Blend, and Growers Choice have done excellent work on this grow. Me? All I do is manage two of those three.

You're right, it doesn't look like it should end in 14 days, I'd say 21 days at least

 

[Jon]

You're right, it doesn't look like it should end in 14 days, I'd say 21 days at least

That was my prediction as well, around 21-24.

 

[BubbaKush909]

Morning @Jon! Just checking in. If It makes you feel better I didn't know it was a leaf miner either lol. That's a very similar pattern to what the emerald ash borer makes under the bark of ash trees. Or at least did until it killed them all.

Have a great growing day, hoping for a special package to arrive today they said 3rd thru 9th fingers crossed!

 

[Jon]

The Jungle in Gorillatown
Flower Day 22
Jack Herer Auto Day 47

1. Fulvia. This is the only way I can show her, or some version of this. The canopy in this tent is several inches higher than the opening on either door, and there's zero space to get one's head in. Pretty soon we'll be showing only buds anyway, and apparently a few rather large ones, or so it appears from this. This plant has around 20-something big, huge branches each will make a sizeable bud. Should be pretty good.

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2. Elora. About the same in terms of number of branches/colas as Fulvia. The idea here was very large plants with fewer tops than I usually train to, but still many more than letting it go au natural, while trying to maintain some semblance of a canopy at almost 7 feet off the ground. I would have found this a challenge even if my legs worked!

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3. Spud Bud. The true test of any fix you ever make along the colander lines I did yesterday with this plant is not when you rig it up. It's easy to make it so it looks perfect for a photo when you first set it up. But now close the tent back up. That'll change the pressure where you just worked, as well as the air flow and how much fan air pressure hits the plant. Is it still going to stay the way you want it after a day of closed tent conditions? Or do you have to tweak? Well, in this case I nailed it. This is the Spud the day after the rig-up, and man does she look sweeter every day when she's standing at attention like this. I was right, this plant is going to give me a bunch of cherry tomatoes. I don't think a single branch has a bud that is close enough to join with the one above, except maybe at each top. I see a pain in the ass, small bud trim party in my future.

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4. Jack Herer Auto. This is the hardest plant to photograph given her position and the infrastructure around her. This is about all I can get, and I have to wait on the fan to swing the right way to get this fully exposed. Gives me a quick second to snap the picture, lol. But at least these are two tops of the four mains on the plant. Heehee. What a problem to have, too much plant and too big to get pictures of them. Lmao. Don't be led astray by this Jack picture, she actually has a lot of branches and is going to yield in the 3-5 ounce range for me.

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• May 9, 2022

Happy Monday. A lovely thing of note:

- It's day 22 of flower and I deem the stretch as finished. Therefore, having now seen we're far enough from the top of the canopy to do it, it's time to begin "not F-ing around anymore" time with my light. Not sure if you guys have ever seen this light at full power. It's beyond bright. Blindingly so, literally. This is the first time I have ever been in a position to have the light within a foot of the canopy across a whole tent and was able to crank the beast to full capacity. You can see the brightness change really well in the Spud Bud shot. The entire canopy is getting crushed now at an approximate average ppfd of around 1350. By the time the buds are done they'll be in the 1400s.

- 45 years ago today, the Dead played a show in Buffalo, NY. This was the next show after the epic Cornell '77 show which many veteran Heads claim to be the greatest Dead show ever played. Cornell is indeed one of the pinnacles of the band in their entire history. However, the entire 77 tour was smoking hot. You would get little argument from anyone if you said it was the best TOUR they ever played. Yet everyone focuses on Cornell, mostly due to the Scarlet>Fire and the Morning Dew (OMG that is insanity). That Morning Dew from Cornell, btw, if somehow you have never heard it, will redefine the Dead for you. It is the most raw, unadulterated POWER I have ever heard them display as a band, and it goes on seemingly forever. Listen to it LOUD, and marvel and wonder how in god's name it's possible that they just took it up ANOTHER notch when there were no higher notches to take it up to. You will say that about 25 times in the end jam of the song. But back to the Buffalo show. Check that one out. It's played every bit as well as Cornell, just different song selection. Absolutely stellar show in it's own right, and easily stands on it's own next to Cornell.

In case you need some assistance, here's that Morning Dew from Cornell, played 45 years and one day ago. Put on your seatbelts. This is what happens when a band plays on a level even they didn't know existed and runs with it HARD.

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[Azimuth]

This plant has around 20-something big, huge branches each will make a sizeable bud. Should be pretty good.

Thanks, Captain Understatement. Yes, I get the whole modesty thing, or maybe you see them too often to have the appreciation we get from your pics, but it honestly is a pleasure and a lot of fun to watch your grows.

The idea here was very large plants with fewer tops than I usually train to, but still many more than letting it go au natural, while trying to maintain some semblance of a canopy at almost 7 feet off the ground. I would have found this a challenge even if my legs worked!

See comment above. ^^

This is the Spud the day after the rig-up, and man does she look sweeter every day when she's standing at attention like this. I was right, this plant is going to give me a bunch of cherry tomatoes. I don't think a single branch has a bud that is close enough to join with the one above, except maybe at each top. I see a pain in the ass, small bud trim party in my future.

Why not skip the entire thing and give some Fresh Harvest Oil a try? Or maybe you've done it already and prefer the smoke option. Either way, should be some good 'goods' when you're done.

 

[Jon]

Thanks, Captain Understatement. Yes, I get the whole modesty thing, or maybe you see them too often to have the appreciation we get from your pics, but it honestly is a pleasure and a lot of fun to watch your grows.


See comment above. ^^


Why not skip the entire thing and give some Fresh Harvest Oil a try? Or maybe you've done it already and prefer the smoke option. Either way, should be some good 'goods' when you're done.

Thanks @Azimuth, and as you've forced me to display before, I have as much ego as anyone else on the forum, it's all in how you choose to display it. I prefer to be approachable and want people to feel comfortable asking me questions if they choose, and the "whole modesty thing" as you so quaintly put it facilitates that. It also happens to actually be who I am in reality. Think it would attract people and make them want to check out my grow if I said "look at my amazing work and how great I am, perfection oozes from every nook and cranny?" or something like that when I posted? One, it's not true, two, no it wouldn't. I just know that I get very turned off very quickly by cocky displays of ego. But yes, I know, this tent is simply incredible, it's represents an amazing amount of work, it's going to shatter any ideas I ever had about yields (as is Titan, same deal there), and no, probably not just anyone could do it. Okay? Lol. Thanks alot for the kind words, really, that's super cool of you.

But there's also a good dose of this: or maybe you see them too often to have the appreciation we get from your pics, you're right.

Good call on the oil, but yeah, I'm a loyal smoker all the way. Besides, nobody on earth has ever smoked this strain before, I'll be the first person in the world. That's what has me in wet dreams about this plant.

 

[Jon]

What Goddamn Better Be TITAN'S Last Tweaks
Day 63

Well, it quickly became apparent that holding up just four branches wasn't going to get it done. We also had to clean the tent, as we had some runoff water on the floor, and then, since we were supporting more branches, the fans no longer would fit on the pot, so had to be tweaked. She also hadn't been rotated in two weeks, I hadn't seen her backside.

So all the above is done now, and jesus, I'm really done messing with her now. So here's some pretty cool things that resulted from this.

1. Better support all around
2 Better air flow around the plant as a whole since it is now measurably more compact with the lower branches lifted.
3. All buds closer to the light
4. By lifting everything up as we have, we have created essentially a FOUR ring mountain now. (see pics)

The pictures will help clarify.

a. I used twice as many supports. I think every branch is supported now except maybe two that were smaller and didn't need it. Here's the picture, and note how just by luck we got the main V topping of the main stem right behind a V topping of a side branch, framing one another sweetly. Lol.

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b. Lower fan game revised since they no longer fit in the pot.

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c. Upper fan game now angled down onto the main mass and colas hitting dead center mass with a ton of air.

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• May 9, 2022

d. After all that, we have basically lifted the bottom up enough that we have essentially created now a FOUR tier mountain. The big buds that were the lowest ring are now the next-to-lowest, and the offshoot buds from those bigger main ring buds form the lowest ring. Those offshoot buds were mostly lost and/or buried in the mass for the most part and now they are the lowest level "ring." Here's what I mean. This is the top three rings now.

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e. And here's the bottom three rings (obviously two and three are in both pics).

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f. Since we have essentially four rings, this is a four ring bud tour up the side of the mountain. I picked a line from bottom to top and pictured here are the four level buds that made up the line. This is continued 360 degrees around the plant, except the top ring is comprised of just the two main colas. Here's the lowest ring bud.

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g. Next level up bud (formerly bottom ring).

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h, Third ring up bud, this is the 6 cola ring right below the colas.

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i. Last ring - the top - cola.

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j. This is a random second ring up (formerly lowest level) bud closeup.

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k. And lastly, this is as close as I can get to an overhead shot of Titan on May 9th, Day 63.

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• May 9, 2022

Ok, I'm done for now. Everyone is watered. Zkittlez is in the sun, since her location obviously is not a factor in leaf miners finding her, so may as well. Titan got a defol and upgraded infrastructure as well as a tent cleaning. Jesus, it's already lunch time. Then nap time. I hope you guys enjoy me posting my plant maintenance techniques. I know I'm a bit fanatical about it, but maybe that has something to do with the end result. And if one person out there learns something from my plethora of poor man's tricks and overzealous basic attention to my plants, then I have succeeded in the primary goal here.

 

[Carmen Ray]

I wouldn't worry @Kanno26, I've never seen this anywhere but here. It's not a common pot plant pest, I've looked for it for hours and hours. Even the people who planted it can't tell me what it is. Some virus, they say. Well, it certainly looks just like a virus. I don't know, but I think it's a Florida thing. Probably Trump's fault. Lmao!

It's the work of a leaf miner I think. I had leaf miners last outdoor season only on one of my plants if I remember correctly. Oh hahaha, Azi identified it as such V V V (following which was a lengthy discussion about said miners oh dear lol)

I'd bet some sort of leaf miner. How to identify leaf miners

Your plants are amazing Jon and that Yoda bud and

 

[InTheShed]

Have you thought of a sex pheromone baited aphid trap?

LOL um no? I could grow a DDA for that though.

I really should have asked here first. Everyone knows immediately exactly what they are.

Ask questions, get answers! Knowledge transfer FTW.

this tent is simply incredible

Fact!

 

[Jon]

LOL um no? I could grow a DDA for that though.

Ask questions, get answers! Knowledge transfer FTW.

Fact!

Thanks Shed, and what's funny is that by posting just what you did of the totality of the thought it was connected to, it paints the entire original statement in almost the exact opposite light it was intended as, lmao. Not even being sarcastic, it really is funny, I'm not at all saying you were trying to paint it that way, please don't misinterpret. It's hilarious from a contextual point of view and what a difference it makes.

 

[Jon]

Titanic Tuesday

Today for my obligatory Titan update I present some photos of a slightly different nature. We try to mix it up around here, and it's not the easiest thing in the world to show the same plant repeatedly and keep anyone interested. Lol. Yes, Shed, I know one answer is...post less frequently!! But then who would document my grow for me?

At least I'm getting better at not wasting your time with a bunch of word salads. Here we go:

1. I love when this happens.

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2. Here's what one of the fans sees.

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3. This is a bud from underneath the canopy. This will be what will pass for flarf on this girl, although there is going to be very little of this. It's cute though. I'll be getting all the flarfy buds to @InTheShed, due to his great love for trimming crappy little flarfy buds. I dig the calyxes in this picture.

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4. A shot of going around the horn on the left side of the lower ring of buds.

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5. Here's a scale shot of the buds on that lower ring. The buds get bigger as you go up the plant towards the light.

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6. The white hairs that are all thick and rootish looking, what I refer to as the "building pistils" seem to have finally begun to transition into regular pistils and appear to be starting to become actual buds. Note the color slowly creeping in and especially see if you can tell on the ends of the thick pistils how they are becoming thin like "normal" pistils. I guess the pistils are going to come out of those fatter "building the bud" pistils like you can see here.

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7. Pretty apparent here too.

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8. And here. All the buds are doing this.

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It really is an interesting plant. I'm beyond into her. Molly is jealous. And Joel Embiid got royally screwed out of the MVP trophy he so richly and unquestionably deserved. Dumbasses. Joel was a NO BRAINER this year for it. It wasn't even close, and fuck Jokic.

 

[StoneOtter]

I see a pain in the ass, small bud trim party in my future.

Well maybe it'll be the best you've ever had!?

LOL um no? I could grow a DDA for that though.

You know I was high when I found that info. Thought it might be something to put in a place in the yard since you mentioned your bugs there were quite selective. They may choose sex over lunch and die in the trap. I did it with mosquitoes and humans. Hehe

 

[Jon]

Well maybe it'll be the best you've ever had!?

You know I was high when I found that info. Thought it might be something to put in a place in the yard since you mentioned your bugs there were quite selective. They may choose sex over lunch and die in the trap. I did it with mosquitoes and humans. Hehe

I hope so, SO. I love both parents, the Pineapple Upside Down Cake from Humboldt Seed Company, and the Strawberry Banana from 420FastBuds. And one is much more sativa, one much more indica. Both parents are very sweet, very fruity, and very high in THC. So I'd love it if it turned out like a nice, well-balanced, 50/50 (ish) hybrid that gives both the up from the PUC sativa side and the taste and pain killing properties of the indica leaning SB. And the way the buds are forming is really quite nice, it's just that in the "process" (lol, as if I planned it) of revegging after showing buds, then being tossed BACK into flower, something happened where all I have is just tons of the thin, long stems you see. I am literally as certain as I have ever been that shortly every one of these "branches" (if you were here and saw them live, you'd see they look WAY more thin and wispy than they do in the pictures) is going to fall over despite my colander and twine trick. That's working for now, but all we have is popcorn so far. They simply won't support any weight, not that it appears it's going to pack on a ton of it. Lol is that I am honestly guessing 2 ounces yield from this girl. Heh. If I had taken the seeds from the branches on the PUC that got pollinated by the Strawberry Banana hermie (by the way, does that make the SB the "dad" and the PUC the "mom?") and grown one out normally, this plant would be absolutely stunning now. It was gorgeous when it was in veg at first then the first couple days of flower until I could accommodate her elsewhere. It wasn't until she went from outside and happy and around a 12/12 or less light cycle to inside the tent at 24/0 (forcing the reveg, not intentionally, thought it was an auto at that point) that she developed all this complete weirdness sort of growth. We just got back to five point leaves a few weeks ago, for god's sake. Nothing normal about her. I would also guess that given more veg time she would have eventually re-become a normal looking plant.

Sorry to ramble, it's just a really interesting situation with this one that I accidentally lucked into. Lol!

 

[Costanza]

I hope so, SO. I love both parents, the Pineapple Upside Down Cake from Humboldt Seed Company, and the Strawberry Banana from 420FastBuds. And one is much more sativa, one much more indica. Both parents are very sweet, very fruity, and very high in THC. So I'd love it if it turned out like a nice, well-balanced, 50/50 (ish) hybrid that gives both the up from the PUC sativa side and the taste and pain killing properties of the indica leaning SB. And the way the buds are forming is really quite nice, it's just that in the "process" (lol, as if I planned it) of revegging after showing buds, then being tossed BACK into flower, something happened where all I have is just tons of the thin, long stems you see. I am literally as certain as I have ever been that shortly every one of these "branches" (if you were here and saw them live, you'd see they look WAY more thin and wispy than they do in the pictures) is going to fall over despite my colander and twine trick. That's working for now, but all we have is popcorn so far. They simply won't support any weight, not that it appears it's going to pack on a ton of it. Lol is that I am honestly guessing 2 ounces yield from this girl. Heh. If I had taken the seeds from the branches on the PUC that got pollinated by the Strawberry Banana hermie (by the way, does that make the SB the "dad" and the PUC the "mom?") and grown one out normally, this plant would be absolutely stunning now. It was gorgeous when it was in veg at first then the first couple days of flower until I could accommodate her elsewhere. It wasn't until she went from outside and happy and around a 12/12 or less light cycle to inside the tent at 24/0 (forcing the reveg, not intentionally, thought it was an auto at that point) that she developed all this complete weirdness sort of growth. We just got back to five point leaves a few weeks ago, for god's sake. Nothing normal about her. I would also guess that given more veg time she would have eventually re-become a normal looking plant.

Sorry to ramble, it's just a really interesting situation with this one that I accidentally lucked into. Lol!

Have you grown anything from HSC? I have their vanilla creme pie growing now and notorious thc and hella jelly seeds from them

 

[Jon]

Have you grown anything from HSC? I have their vanilla creme pie growing now and notorious thc and hella jelly seeds from them

Hey @Costanza!

They were and are almost always my first choice for Photos. Then I found some others I like just as much, like Ethos and Grower's Choice, and I use a few of the Dutch breeders too. But yes, here's my list of HSC grown plants so far:
- Pineapple Upside Down Cake
- Blueberry Muffin
- Jelly Rancher (this is what you have - they changed the name to Hella Jelly)
- Raspberry Parfait
- Apple Blossom
- Sour Apple Autoflower

And I also have a new 10-pack of their latest THC bomb strain, the Blueberry Cupcake. Check that one out. Can't wait to grow them. You actually witnessed most of these plants, but maybe not the Jelly Rancher. It's in their catalog that Hella Jelly is the Jelly Rancher renamed, although they don't say why. But dude, if you have that, grow that!!!! It's maybe my favorite end product of every plant I've ever grown, no shit. It's beyond sweet, beyond fruity, the buzz is spectacular, the pain relief is solid, and the plant is a demon. She smells like pink and blue cotton candy in the tent in flower. Check it out - here's my prize Jelly Rancher. It worked out that grow so that she flowered out completely by herself in the 5x5 under a Maxsisun 400 watt quantum board and my two blurples providing the reds, so she got full spectrum from the main light and reds only from the blurples for all of flower. That was just a TON of wattage to toss at one plant, over 900 watts between the three lights. 1300 ppfd at the end of flower. I also dropped her temps at night that grow to the mid-50s, and she purpled up BIG TIME as a result. See? Here's a couple pics, and sorry for the blurple influence, but as you see, the Jelly Rancher is NO JOKE, and makes gigantic, dense colas. This plant was 6.5 ounces dried and jarred if memory serves. These were taken maybe a day before harvest.

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You can see the whole grow of the PUC, BM, and JR here if you're interested, my first grow journal here, and my second overall grow ever. It includes my scrog that was going perfect until I lost ALL of it to seeds. The scrog was a dedicated Humboldt Seed Company grow. This grow also had my first grow with autos included, 9 of them in a second 5x5.

Jon's Second Grow, First Grow Journal, Soil Grow Autos & Photoperiod

Hi Guys - So I am about to begin my second grow, and this represents my first shot at a grow journal online. It seems there are many ways to post a grow journal and everyone appears to have their own style. Most people seem to begin with a listing of their setups and what plants they are...

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I have never once been disappointed in HSC genetics. I am also one of those who believes that California stands with any other environment on Earth for growing weed and easily competes with any Amsterdam or Dutch seedbank. There's a reason they named the Emerald Triangle the Emerald Triangle, and there's no debate over where more than half of the good weed strains in the United States originated, many of which are the building block strains of weed we all grow now. Cali rules, and was the cutting edge of everything weed long before states like Oregon, or Maine.