Is this leaf septoria? If so, what should I do?

[Lovie]

If they're all ready to harvest and you have time at night, just turn the floodlights on and work at night. Nothing bad will happen within the next week if they're all coming down. It takes longer than that for a plant to respond to changes in light schedule.

And even if they hermie at this stage it doesn't make any difference to the harvest.

IDK what strain the first plant I posted pics of that is almost stripped of its fan leaves. I believe that one is close to being done. If I was to guess I would say the Green Cracks will be ready in a week, maybe a week and a half. The Sour Diesels look like they are going to be a couple more weeks. Normal harvest in my area is around mid to late October. These plants received some light interference though, so I don't know if that is going to have an effect on the harvest date.

 

[InTheShed]

Early light interference will definitely push off finishing and in terms of harvesting, don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. Throw a tarp over the Sour Diesels, turn on the lights, and start harvesting.

 

[Lovie]

I am glad they will not all be ready at the same time. Next year I will be doing way more pruning than I did this year so it is not such a headache come harvest. My husband keeps saying no outdoor plants again. I keep trying to explain that the reason the plants have been so time-consuming this year is because I have been operating in a reactive vs proactive way as I learn from my mistakes. Next year should be a lot smoother.......but he doesn't want to hear it. Maybe he will feel differently once he can reap some of the rewards.

 

[InTheShed]

Hard work pays off!

 

[Sativa1970]

No outdoor plants? That sounds like he is going to build you a green house. Isn't that sweet of him. lol

When a plant is stressed it will stop growing the buds and focus on maturing them. From the plants point of view large buds produce more healthy seeds. Only mature buds produce viable seeds. If continuing the genetic line is the ultimate goal, viable seeds is the ultimate priority. Often stress leads to early but lower yield harvest.

The problem is we are not talking about ounces of weed.

You need to stop stressing on the negative and focus on the positive. I would guess 4 plants around 12oz and one closer to 6 oz of dried bud. Even if it stops growing and half of the buds start to rot, you still would have 27oz of good safe smoke. So, for scale, a flat of 1 quart mason jars would be the worst case scenario. Hard to stay stressed with that much bud in front of you. If you can keep the rot from spreading and/or buds fatten you would add to that harvest. Will do no good to stress over the lb you have to pitch. Just leads to bad decisions when separating the harvest. Focus on the lb of good bud you will be able to safely keep. Better for your health in every way.

 

[Dustin84]

I keep watching this since lovie is running into similar issues I have starting out. I've got to ask some questions about terminology and weights. Colas, what actually starts the cola, for measuring purposes. I see a lot of weight being added up and am I correct leaves, stalks etc are being left in? I have only been weighing finished product. Depending on the individual plants I'm getting anywhere from a half oz of good bud to around a pound. I'm definitely curious about the quantity I see here and there.

 

[Lovie]

No outdoor plants? That sounds like he is going to build you a green house. Isn't that sweet of him. lol

That's what I said. He said he would buy another tent if I wanted. I asked where in the hell would we put another tent......and I got no comment.

You need to stop stressing on the negative and focus on the positive.

You're right. It's just so much work, and I have so little time. And trust me, I have taken no chances. I have probably tossed stuff that didn't need to be tossed. I figure it is better to toss some extra now than to lose everything to mold during drying and curing.

 

[InTheShed]

I'll take a shot here:

I keep watching this since lovie is running into similar issues I have starting out. I've got to ask some questions about terminology and weights. Colas, what actually starts the cola, for measuring purposes.

Colas are a collection of the buds that have grown together to appear as one longer one. They usually get cut down so we can fit them in jars for curing.

I see a lot of weight being added up and am I correct leaves, stalks etc are being left in? I have only been weighing finished product.

Most of the time weight refers to final weight: just buds, trimmed, cut off the stems, and dried to around 62%. You can see what that looks like in my recent harvest here:
https://www.420magazine.com/communi...side-out-jump-in-any-time.417558/post-6036202

Hope that helps!

 

[Sativa1970]

I keep watching this since lovie is running into similar issues I have starting out. I've got to ask some questions about terminology and weights. Colas, what actually starts the cola, for measuring purposes. I see a lot of weight being added up and am I correct leaves, stalks etc are being left in? I have only been weighing finished product. Depending on the individual plants I'm getting anywhere from a half oz of good bud to around a pound. I'm definitely curious about the quantity I see here and there.

Everyone trims a bit more or less but like intheshed said, it is final finished dried trimmed buds. Nothing that isn't ready to drop into a bowl and light. The numbers I gave were an educated guess of final cured bud weight. Just based on knowing the strain, size and history of the grow.

 

[Lovie]

I know the buds lose a lot of water weight during the drying and curing process. I believe they say to expect to lose about 75% of the weight from harvest to finish product, but do the buds shrink in size too? If so, how much do they shrink? Now that I am stripping away the fan leaves I got a good view of the buds and if I knew if, and how much they shrink in size I could come up with a more accurate estimate of what to expect.

 

[InTheShed]

There are a few formulas for estimating final weight from harvest weight (for example 25% of 90% of the harvest weight) but I've never understood what the big deal was in waiting a few weeks to just weigh it and find out for real!

 

[budnoob3]

There are a few formulas for estimating final weight from harvest weight (for example 25% of 90% of the harvest weight) but I've never understood what the big deal was in waiting a few weeks to just weigh it and find out for real!

Yeah, I wait till at least 6 weeks of cure before weighing typically. Although I’ll admit on first grow or anytime I moved and started over my patience would get the best of me

 

[InTheShed]

Yeah, I wait till at least 6 weeks of cure before weighing typically. Although I’ll admit on first grow or anytime I moved and started over my patience would get the best of me

I just wait until I get it down to 62% RH since the weight shouldn't change with curing.

 

[bluter]

i haven't bothered weighing anything for a few yrs now ... the jars you get is what you get lol

 

[Sativa1970]

The buds don't really shrink in size just water weight. You would have to scale at harvest, then calculate stems, trim and leaves. That is just too much work for no reason. Not to mention no one formula would work for every plant and pre harvest trim. I know a quart jar with an air gap for curing is roughly 2.5oz and that is close enough for me. I have 15 gallons of vacuum sealed jars but no accurate weight. Only time I scale is when It leaves the property because there is a carry limit here.

Depending on how dense the buds are, A full quart jar wet is roughly 2-3 Oz dry.

 

[Lovie]

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The buds don't really shrink in size just water weight. You would have to scale at harvest, then calculate stems, trim and leaves. That is just too much work for no reason. Not to mention no one formula would work for every plant and pre harvest trim. I know a quart jar with an air gap for curing is roughly 2.5oz and that is close enough for me. I have 15 gallons of vacuum sealed jars but no accurate weight. Only time I scale is when It leaves the property because there is a carry limit here.

Depending on how dense the buds are, A full quart jar wet is roughly 2-3 Oz dry.

I don't plan on weighing until the very end. I have enough to do already. I may not be experienced in harvesting and curing but I know about dealing with dry weight and can give a decent estimate on how much dry product I am looking at w/o a scale. If the buds on my plants were dried, cured and ready to go I would estimate between all plants together I would easily have 3lbs.

 

[Lovie]

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I was too scared to try it myself because of the septoria. I didn't think it would be a good idea to snip the tips of the buds and have an exposed surface when dealing with a fungus problem. I may try it next time on some indoor plants. Time will tell.

 

[Sativa1970]

I have snipped the tip off of buds because I was sampling for experiments on several grows over the years. If it changed the bud it wasn't enough for me to ever take notice. Makes sense that if you cut the point off of a pear it would be more apple shaped. But I don't care if my buds are apple or pear shaped. Never done a true side by side to know if it is effective, placebo or esthetic. But if there is a difference it is subtle enough that I never noticed it.

 

[Lovie]

Sorry, I have been MIA. I have been super busy. Just to give everyone an update.....I still have not harvested any plants yet. I removed all the mold and have not seen anymore. The weather has been on my side. The daytime temps have been in the lower 70s with humidity in the upper 50s, at nighttime the temps have been in the upper 40s. I know I said all but my Sour Diesels were close to ready for harvest but I think I was wrong. I was saying that based on looking at the buds. I clipped some buds off of each plant and looked at the trichomes. I still have a lot of clear ones, PICs below (these are from my Green Crack). Based on the pics below does anyone know how much longer until most of my trichomes are milky looking?

I have a question about using the copper fungicide. I am still removing leaves with septoria like crazy......it is keeping me busy. I know some of you said it wasn't good to spray them with copper fungicide but I had a thought I wanted to run by everyone. Copper is a micronute so there is some in the plant tissue.....so if I spray the plants with it and some is absorbed is there really much harm since it is already there from the soil? I figure it should be okay if I thoroughly rinse the fungicide off before harvest. If it is not, will someone please explain what I am missing in my thought process?

 

[budnoob3]

I’d warn against keeping a plant going that showed any signs of mold or mildew, cull the bad spots and chop the rest to get something at least, it can go very quickly from having something to having nothing. As for readiness, I’d monitor water intake, when she takes a week to dry out from a single watering she’s almost ready and the pistils will have stopped changing colors and leaves will be dying off more quickly, etc.