A quick fly-by. Flapping of.
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You have vertigo, Nev?
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Friday update where we all look at the trichomes on the Doug's Varin (flip day 58) and we ignore the amber! Let's dive in...
The only other thing I have for you today is a pic of the lime cutting I mentioned in April of last year:
They've been outside in solo cups for a year in that shite soil, and all I've been doing is keeping them watered. Finally, yesterday I spotted this on one of them:
I'm going to top-dress it with GeoFlora today. And obviously patience has its virtues.
Happy upcoming weekend!
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AB! It's so refreshing to have you fly by and say hello. I hope that you and the girls are well and happy and safe. 
The only other thing I have for you today is a pic of the lime cutting I mentioned in April of last year:
They've been outside in solo cups for a year in that shite soil, and all I've been doing is keeping them watered. Finally, yesterday I spotted this on one of them:
I'm going to top-dress it with GeoFlora today. And obviously patience has its virtues.
Happy upcoming weekend!
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I'm glad you mentioned that Nev...it's definitely time for a pruning!
LOL...if I only had more land.
Thanks! But slight listing? I'm with GDB:
AB! It's so refreshing to have you fly by and say hello. I hope that you and the girls are well and happy and safe. 
Beautiful trich shots Shed! I'm not seeing much in the way of clear trichs... I'd Chop that! 
The milkiness in some of them doesn't appear to be quite at peak, but awfully close....or is that just me?
The milkiness in some of them doesn't appear to be quite at peak, but awfully close....or is that just me?
Something that you display in quantity daily brotherAnd obviously patience has its virtues.
I had a bunch written out in a response, but somehow fudged that up. Not surprising. At least I never loaded all the quotes I had while getting caught up.
Something I need to drain your brain about with the Candida. Going to flip her soon and I feel like I may have too many flower sites. Plus my branching seems too fragile for the future buds.
I have no idea why I quoted this now...but I'm going to allow it to stay.
My late cast...plus the trainwreck. Both of those being foundations to so many current trendy hybrids.
Agreed! Nicely done. Those reminded me that I need to get a new scope.
Orrrr...could use pumice instead!
That was me last night...trying to get caught up for apparently 2 hrs and then falling asleep and deleting my responses.
Right there with you HH!
Yes shed...I agree.Yes, Shed. It's time.
Oh how I can relate to this so much right now. Shit show of a year?!
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Thanks Rex! I'm not harvesting on amber otherwise this one would have been down last week!
@Amy Gardner always told me that outside amber isn't like tent amber because of the impact of the sun on trichomes, and @BeezLuiz discovered that harvesting based on the standard 10-20% amber guideline left him with low THC numbers and zero CBN. Here are his tests results. Almost 0% CBN across all his THC plants.
So some of us outside growers are harvesting later than we have in the past to see how that goes. I've taken to letting the plant tell me when it's done, including when the smell changes and it starts drinking much more slowly, in addition to the number of cloudy/clear trichomes.
Awww thanks Rex!
We will never know what we missed.
I don't find the Candida ever able to hold its flowers up, so just be prepared to stake it all the way around. And if most of it is going to oil then don't worry about the trim. Save the very tops for smoking and just trim those!
It was a great quote! Who doesn't like the word "splurge"?
Vote registered!
I've got two big bags of perlite, so perlite it is. Anyway, since @FelipeBlu split for the BVI's, the pumice mine has gone to hell, so there's that.
LOL!
Maybe this weekend I will dig out those botrytis buds and scope them!
I'm sorry to hear that's going on with you as well. I hope it settles down soon. Mine seems to have.
that's about the same as i look for indoor. the plant should plateau on uptake at the end or stop completely.
i often go to water only on a final feed when this happens, just to keep moisture in the plant before i chop, since it isn't feeding anyway. it used to be a pretty common practice, and i think this may have been confused as a final flush.
Hi Shed!Friday update where we all look at the trichomes on the Doug's Varin (flip day 58) and we ignore the amber! Let's dive in...
The only other thing I have for you today is a pic of the lime cutting I mentioned in April of last year:
They've been outside in solo cups for a year in that shite soil, and all I've been doing is keeping them watered. Finally, yesterday I spotted this on one of them:
I'm going to top-dress it with GeoFlora today. And obviously patience has its virtues.
Happy upcoming weekend!
Quotes:
I'm glad you mentioned that Nev...it's definitely time for a pruning!
LOL...if I only had more land.
Thanks! But slight listing? I'm with GDB:
First - SPECTACULAR trichome pics. It's hard to win PHOTM with a trichome shot, but maybe with this quality you could do it??? (lol)
Next - This:
@Amy Gardner always told me that outside amber isn't like tent amber because of the impact of the sun on trichomes, and @BeezLuiz discovered that harvesting based on the standard 10-20% amber guideline left him with low THC numbers and zero CBN. Here are his tests results. Almost 0% CBN across all his THC plants.
So some of us outside growers are harvesting later than we have in the past to see how that goes. I've taken to letting the plant tell me when it's done, including when the smell changes and it starts drinking much more slowly, in addition to the number of cloudy/clear trichomes.
Explains so much! I noticed some of this on the outdoor plants and even on the coco girls that began flower outside and moved into the tent. I have come to depend more on the look than the trichs, even for indoor plants sometimes. Turned out well on the AB doing it that way, even if it turned out her trichs were where I wanted. I went more by when the buds look "finished" and felt "done." Thanks for sharing that.
Then - thanks for the head's up on the pot size as the first limiting factor. I know what you say is true, i have been fearful of overgrowing a tent with bigger pots, especially in coco. Been inching up. Started with those 3's and they did some damage for plants in threes - 7 feet tall before the cola bend. The two FPCs are going from the 2.6s they're in to 7s. First time with coco photos in 7 all indoor. But I think the 7s will allow for more support. I can always even go to 10s if it looks like I can handle it space-wise. Good call.
Great update!
Just started my call...
Noted! Heavy feeder by chance? She's going to get GF all the way through. The garden box is heavy on the microbial life and worms. So stuff is getting broken down fast.
I think I'm going to wait at least another week minimum before I flip. Probably two, to let all the plants expand the roots and prepare for flower. I'm getting ahead of myself! How long after final transplant, do you flip yours?
we all work through it
been wanting to move back to more of a soil base. ultimately organics.
Ohhh, gotcha. And I'm trying to get my life squared away, in a way that I can try hydro and synthetics. Haaa haaa
That said, I'll always be a soil and organics grower though. It's just so deeply ingrained in my soul. First started learning about composting and gardening as a child with my grandmother.
we all want what we don't have lol.
it's not like i'm unhappy. just reaching for a lesser impact and foot print.
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Hi Shed, read this (as a sometimes guest on your thread) and automatically smiled.@Amy Gardner always told me that outside amber isn't like tent amber because of the impact of the sun on trichomes, and @BeezLuiz discovered that harvesting based on the standard 10-20% amber guideline left him with low THC numbers and zero CBN. Here are his tests results. Almost 0% CBN across all his THC plants.
So some of us outside growers are harvesting later than we have in the past to see how that goes. I've taken to letting the plant tell me when it's done, including when the smell changes and it starts drinking much more slowly, in addition to the number of cloudy/clear trichomes.
This being said in such a manner and on a higher traffic thread is better for everyone.
Some of the old outdoor growers intuitively understood trichs as more a sign than a signal. Unfortunately I have nothing to put to the discussion of my own, only gathered info from them.
Very interested in the info gained from running ladies later, seems the hard data supports yours, and theirs, guide to finishing.
I have suggested a similar idea before in other threads, but theres a reluctance to push the wheelbarrow on my own behalf as its impossible to guage how effective the info is gleaned from growers under the extreme Aussie outdoors sunshine. Meaning does it still work in differing regions and environments. Oddly in support of it is another Aussie grower in Amy.
Any how kudos to you for bringing it up, Ill keep an eye out for further thoughts and experiences especially as the Nth hemisphere bleeds into the outdoor season starting proper. For whatever we know, we can always learn more.
hell. a lot of the ahem "old" outdoor growers never even looked at trichs.
some of the best weed i ever smoked looked awful when we pulled it. almost grey brown. used to be pull at second frost. or the first hard frost if early.
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Ill be honest I was reluctant to really get into the finer details. In the interest of a wider discussion I dont mind.
Almost none of them owned a loupe or bothered with magnification. I knew a handful, did 3 seasons with one guy back in the 90s, giving him a hand, traineeship if you will. The concensus across them was purely about presentation in terms of trichs.
Which sounds like blasphemy said the other way, they ignored trich production and maturity, it was simply a natural response that could be manipulated by environment and was a bonus often prized by the consumer, not the grower.
I think this plays to what I quoted earlier. Even across the regions down under there is all sorts of weather, environments, climates, and seasonal variables.
I grow where I learnt to grow, Mediterranean type summers, and the advent of Fall (Autumn) brings higher RH, and rapid swings between overnights and peak daytimes. In a wet year its really wet for harvest, in a drier one it can hit peak frost. Head north or south it changes.
On topic though, I concur mate, girls pushed into frost were superior. Tarped many a plant to avoid additional wet, and taking them deep into the cold not only brought the colours out, but the final weeks internal production was immediately evident vs an earlier harvest.
Wasnt unheard of to go as deep as 12 or 13 weeks, Indica dom plants or Sats. Flowering guides are useless, to bring this around, letting them run way deep made better bud.
Eyes, and nose, and touch, they let the plant tell them the window. They knew when was ideal, only at times they had to consider weather as the limiting factor.
Any how, Ive said a lot to say a little.
Hey Shed and gang. Doug's Varin is looking awesome! I nearly went for some but changed my mind at the last minute. Looking forward to what you think of the effects on that one.
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I just want to say , Sorry for the improper thread i put in Mr. Shed .. Mr. Edwards let me know in a personal post and we got that squared . Plant looks Good Shed Hope the weekend is less cold there than here .
I did this last year and did not reveg that I saw.
My wedding anniversary day. A great time for starting new things!
That Candida ready for flower has some thick branches! Nice beefy plant!Wednesday update with the missing-from-yesterday's-update plants!
Here are the two mother plants:
I will always have a Candida mother plant, but the Sour G mother only stays around if the STS seed-making process doesn't work. If I get seeds I will either toss it, gift it, or flower it out depending on the timing.
And here are the next two for flowering:
As the nights get warmer, these two will get flipped in the shed.
That's it for me today. Next pics will probably be DV trichomes on Friday. Hope all is well with you!
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Thanks Verbalist! Those pistils are dark red and I'm thinking the sun does that to them. I can't remember a harvest with white pistils anywhere on the plant.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Thanks! I'm hoping the ski lift spreads the beauty around.
Thank you sb! I don't harvest by pistil color, or really trichome color either. I'm waiting for the plant to stop drinking to tell me when to chop. Yesterday it got 2 gallons so I'll see when it needs water again. It has been every other day, so if it's dry tomorrow morning then we've got some time yet.
Thanks Waiheesohai! I twist the top off which creates a lot less damage to the bottom and helps it root faster after peeling away the lowers and slicing through the point until I see the brown root nodes. I've also rooted a lot of slips and suckers just by sticking them in damp soil. All from one pineapple "mother"!
