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You got married on April Fools Day??? What's up with that? :laughtwo:
Oh oh I made a mistake! No I got married on May first. Sheesh, vaping that oil sure can make a person stoned! Thanks for noticing HG! Now that we're talking about it, my folks were married on April first because of the war(WW2) and dad's need to serve in the military. They said it was a special ceremony because of that.
 
Oh oh I made a mistake! No I got married on May first. Sheesh, vaping that oil sure can make a person stoned! Thanks for noticing HG! Now that we're talking about it, my folks were married on April first because of the war(WW2) and dad's need to serve in the military. They said it was a special ceremony because of that.
Wrong again, Stone. It was June the 1st! :rofl:
 
Don't start now as we just reached 12/12 hours a day. When do your nights stay above 60, 65 ideally?
Oh ok, I just checked and we are still in the high 40’s low 50’s. Im not sure when we get to the 60’s. Thanks shed!
 
Have you ever used Neem as a systemic for your aphid colony?



i know someone who used it as a preventative for a persistent mite issue. mixed results. seemed to work better on some strains / phenos over others. sativa and sativa heavy plants reacted the best.. no idea why.

he ran it as an amendment on the water side of a bottle nute feed sched. it was only run during veg to keep it from possibly flavoring the bud.

it didn't eradicate the issue on it's own, he took more dramatic action eventually. it did sort of keep stuff at bay though.
 
i know someone who used it as a preventative for a persistent mite issue. mixed results. seemed to work better on some strains / phenos over others. sativa and sativa heavy plants reacted the best.. no idea why.

he ran it as an amendment on the water side of a bottle nute feed sched. it was only run during veg to keep it from possibly flavoring the bud.

it didn't eradicate the issue on it's own, he took more dramatic action eventually. it did sort of keep stuff at bay though.
Neem can be used either in the nutes to go into the soil or as a foliar, correct? If so, which is more effective?
 
Neem can be used either in the nutes to go into the soil or as a foliar, correct? If so, which is more effective?


i've only ever used it as a foliar. the example i cited used watered it in to the media (promix). i think he also used it sparingly as a foliar, sort of semi regular.

after a few grows he got tired of it and just shut it down and cleared it out. he'll have to start again in grow or two, as he's in an area where they reoccur constant.

edit : it seemed decent at control, but not outright eradication.
 
i've only ever used it as a foliar. the example i cited used watered it in to the media (promix). i think he also used it sparingly as a foliar, sort of semi regular.

after a few grows he got tired of it and just shut it down and cleared it out. he'll have to start again in grow or two, as he's in an area where they reoccur constant.
Thanks, @bluter. I got all that, that's what prompted the question. I have EC Ecoworks, which is basically 70% Neem and 30% "other ingredients." Lol. So it's Neem, right? The directions allow for either foliar application or doing it as it was done in your example, via soil feeding. I'm wondering which one is more effective and a better call if I wanted to use it. I have no bug issues and rarely if ever do ('cept those damn aphids....), but I was thinking about it as a preventative. In that case soil feeding would be much easier. But I suspect foliar feeding provides more immediate results.
 
Thanks, @bluter. I got all that, that's what prompted the question. I have EC Ecoworks, which is basically 70% Neem and 30% "other ingredients." Lol. So it's Neem, right? The directions allow for either foliar application or doing it as it was done in your example, via soil feeding. I'm wondering which one is more effective and a better call if I wanted to use it. I have no bug issues and rarely if ever do ('cept those damn aphids....), but I was thinking about it as a preventative. In that case soil feeding would be much easier. But I suspect foliar feeding provides more immediate results.



if you need a straight answer its do both.

soil feeding is only preventative. so it's an either or both situation. soil feeding is restricted to the water side as it obviously tosses your ppm all over.

soil feeding poisons them slowly as they ingest it from the plant. the spray mostly coats them and they suffocate. so it's a different action for each approach.
 
if you need a straight answer its do both.

soil feeding is only preventative. so it's an either or both situation. soil feeding is restricted to the water side as it obviously tosses your ppm all over.

soil feeding poisons them slowly as they ingest it from the plant. the spray mostly coats them and they suffocate. so it's a different action for each approach.
Ah...I see. Okay, in that case, it sounds like maybe if I don't have an issue I don't really need to use it. I'd rather not put it in the soil, just my personal preference. So I guess if I see some critters I'll try dealing with them on the foliar side. Thanks so much!
 
Ah...I see. Okay, in that case, it sounds like maybe if I don't have an issue I don't really need to use it. I'd rather not put it in the soil, just my personal preference. So I guess if I see some critters I'll try dealing with them on the foliar side. Thanks so much!


nothing wrong with running it either pre mixed in the media or with the water side on bottle nutes in veg.
it will curtail other soil borne pests such as gnats, so you never see the issue.

mites have no real soil cycle, though they may "winter" in soil. no one really knows. they can freeze and reanimate when thawed. they don't have blood, they have glycol instead. glycol is the base of anti-freeze.

thrips also do not have a soil cycle. but they make cuts in the plant to lay eggs. as it is in the plant, the internal presence of neem poisons the nymph as it emerges. a foliar won't do anything until they have emerged.
 
nothing wrong with running it either pre mixed in the media or with the water side on bottle nutes in veg.
it will curtail other soil borne pests such as gnats, so you never see the issue.

mites have no real soil cycle, though they may "winter" in soil. no one really knows. they can freeze and reanimate when thawed. they don't have blood, they have glycol instead. glycol is the base of anti-freeze.

thrips also do not have a soil cycle. but they make cuts in the plant to lay eggs. as it is in the plant, the internal presence of neem poisons the nymph as it emerges. a foliar won't do anything until they have emerged.
Ah...okay. So do both or neither it almost sounds like. I have another product that's a combo of all oils, OMRI and all that, that I already know works. Just spray and let dry. I just want to eliminate the annoying little flying gnat like things that are attracted to the light since part of my environmental control includes opening up tent doors (in veg). So some critters fly in from time to time at night when it's a more attractive light.
 
Interesting about the Mites , I just wonder how many it would take to make a gal. of antifreeze :rofl: sorry i could not resist the offer .... I get gnats in the house since i can't grow weed but veggies , Take a piece of paper make a funnel to fit a quart jar with a small but not to small hole at one end , put some vinegar and water mix with a drop of dish washing liquid in it stir up put the funnel in but not touching water mix, set aside (where gnats go ) check it in day or two see dead gnats in bottom . They get in and can't get out cause there to stupid and die . :thumb:
 
Interesting about the Mites , I just wonder how many it would take to make a gal. of antifreeze . sorry i could not resist the offer .... I get gnats in the house since i can't grow weed but veggies , Take a piece of paper make a funnel to fit a quart jar with a small but not to small hole at one end , put some vinegar and water mix with a drop of dish washing liquid in it stir up put the funnel in but not touching water mix, set aside (where gnats go ) check it in day or two see dead gnats in bottom . They get in and can't get out cause there to stupid and die .



specific to gnats : the issue is that they feed on your cannabis roots as pupae and nymphs before they get there. your plant loses weight and potency in the process.

death from above and within for them. most other pests can be controlled death from above. but it pays to play like the ukrainians, and fire well targeted on everything.
 
Hi Shed,
I hope you are all well.
I have a rookie question regarding autos. Is is possible to grow autos under a light but at winter room temperature that sometimes drops below 13 degrees C. I can't afford the electricity to run a heater in the room as well as the light. Alternatively, what about growing the plants in a bright window with heat instead of light? I am really skint and trying to do a bare bones grow. If it is not going to work I'd rather know not to waste money on soil etc. I know you used to grow autos, so what do you recommend in my circumstances?
 
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