Icemud's Breeding Projects And Motherchucking Pollination Extravaganza

Really enjoyed your story about the GDP and your first experience with it. The only time I got to grow it out I got a couple of clones from a guy that grew out seeds. He got the seeds from a guy that he had been working with. It had all sorts of purple throughout it, but it was not solid. It had great sour grape candy terps and tasted great. They grew massive colas when left un topped. I had some decent pics on my old camera before it got stolen.
 
Looking great ICE. Thanks for the history of GDP, good read.

Thanks Rich Farmer!! Absolutely welcome :) I remember I researched it a while ago when I was looking for GDP still and couldn't find it and so it was a good refresher to look it up again. Thankfully i found the video quickly which came right from Ken himself. :) Love me some GDP :)
 
Very informative on the GDP, Orange Fpog should be a terp factory.

I am hoping so! I'm quite excited now, as all I can imagine and hope for is a cremesicle flavored strain...lol. They are growing quite fast now. I will update the photos in a bit.

Gave em a little stem rub but they are still to young to really throw a strong scent. I imagine in 2 weeks it will be a different story on how fast they are growing :)
 
Really enjoyed your story about the GDP and your first experience with it. The only time I got to grow it out I got a couple of clones from a guy that grew out seeds. He got the seeds from a guy that he had been working with. It had all sorts of purple throughout it, but it was not solid. It had great sour grape candy terps and tasted great. They grew massive colas when left un topped. I had some decent pics on my old camera before it got stolen.

Thanks.. Its funny how certain strains or certain events with cannabis stick with you forever.. LOL. My GDP experience sure gave me a good laugh and still to this day I smile when thinking about how ridiculous I must have looked staring at my feet trying to figure out how to walk.. LOL .

I really am hoping that my current GDP x Gods gift (GDP x OG Kush) helps restore some vigor and leans GDP heavy. My GDP has been through a lot so it definitely is one of my more tempermental plants and its given me a few worries over the years. Eventually it would be nice to cross the above blend which should have some 75% GDP phenos and cross it back to the GDP I have just to really help secure those GDP genetics in.. but only time will tell if I can get around to doing that.

Mine definitely could have the potential of growing some big colas. I usually top it and it freaks out..LOL I dont know why my GDP does not like topping. It gets very vine like and weird. Would probably make for a great Bonsai Cannabis strain though :)
 
Thanks.. Its funny how certain strains or certain events with cannabis stick with you forever.. LOL. My GDP experience sure gave me a good laugh and still to this day I smile when thinking about how ridiculous I must have looked staring at my feet trying to figure out how to walk.. LOL .

I really am hoping that my current GDP x Gods gift (GDP x OG Kush) helps restore some vigor and leans GDP heavy. My GDP has been through a lot so it definitely is one of my more tempermental plants and its given me a few worries over the years. Eventually it would be nice to cross the above blend which should have some 75% GDP phenos and cross it back to the GDP I have just to really help secure those GDP genetics in.. but only time will tell if I can get around to doing that.

Mine definitely could have the potential of growing some big colas. I usually top it and it freaks out..LOL I dont know why my GDP does not like topping. It gets very vine like and weird. Would probably make for a great Bonsai Cannabis strain though :)

I have heard of a few tsrains that get viney when topped. My Slurricane had thin stems and and a viney structure when grown from clone. I wonder if that was a GDP trait shining through. That would be sweet if you could get the GDP locked in in seed form. I had two GDP seedlings going and got one female from the 2. I need her to now get big so I can clone and flip and see what I get. Unfortunately I am sure i will not get any purple out of her but one can hope. If I can get a similar terp profile to what I had last time I will be happy.
 
Hey Everyone!

Happy Memorial Day Weekend!!!

So just a quick update on the Orange Fruity Pebble OG project.

Today makes day 25 in veg (from germination) and the OFPOG and Wedding Cake S1 are looking very good. All of the OFPOG plants now have evened out in size/height for the most part and the leaves all look more uniform although there are slight phenotype differences too.

Last night I decided that it was time to top all of the plants to encourage root growth (side effect of topping) as well as to branch out the girls more and make them more bushy.

Each "top" that I cut off I did a stem rub on and WOW!!! I am extremely excited about this Orange FPOG!!!!!!

So in terms of terps from a stem rub, there are 2 distinct terp profiles:
Terps profile 1:
Very sweet orange smell, almost like sunny D orange juice, almost artificially sweet orange with a strong "dank/sulfer/skunky" undertone.

Terps profile 2: Zero Orange or citrus... A very strong medicinal smell of Menthol, Skunk, Sulfur and Dank.. Very strong smelling and zero sweetness. Almost has a aftersmell like eucalyptus and hot rubber.


Here are the individual "breeding notes" i took about each pheno in my breeding journal.
All of the Girls were topped on May 23, 2020.

  • Pheno #1. During topping this phenotype had a very orange citrus sweet smell with a very slight hint of cheeze. Reminds me slightly of the tangie I grew in the past. Very strong terp smell, like sweet orange juice or sunny d with a hint of cheeze and dank.
  • Pheno #2 shares the same terp profile as Pheno 5. Both of these phenos have zero orange smell and instead have a very skunky, rubber, dank smell, very potent smelling. No orange or sweet. This pheno has a slight peppery hint to it as well.
  • Pheno #3. During topping this pheno had a good terp profile, not as strong as the others but still quite strong. The smell profile was a good blend of orange with the skunky dank smell of pheno 5.
  • Pheno #4 during the topping had a very strong terp profile during a stem rub. This pheno smelled like sunny D orange juice, a sweet orange smell with a hint of dank/skunkyness, but very pleasant orange smell.
  • Pheno #5 during the topping had a very very strong stem rub smell of rubber, skunk and dank. Definitely very potent.
  • Pheno #6 is very very potent smelling on the stem rub during topping. This pheno smells like sweet oranges and skunky dank, but very good orange smell.
  • Pheno #7 shares the same terp profile as pheno 3 and 5. It has a dank skunky rubber smell, very potent (medicine smell). This one has almost a minty eucalypus smell.

  • Overall Phenos 1, 2, 4 and 6 all have sweet orange terps with slight minute differences.
  • Phenos 3, 5 and 7 all have a very potent skunky, rubber, dank, sulfur smell with minute differences.
Before and After Topping (top/back left is wedding cake s1.)





On another note, the Wedding Cake S1 looks very good and healthy and also was topped last night. I did a stem rub on the Wedding Cake and it definitely has a very strong OG kush/skunky/sulfur smell to it... which excites me and made me pee a little... LOL kidding about the pee.

Wedding Cake S1 before topping:


Well other than that not much else to report on as of yet with the Orange Fruity Pebbles OG project. I have to say, after last nights stem rubs I am extremely happy about having these genetics and I think the resulting plants are going to be fantastic!!!

Happy Memorial Day everyone!!! Enjoy your weekend and stay safe!!! I will try to get an update in for the Gods Gift project soon :)
 
Really enjoyed your story about the GDP and your first experience with it. The only time I got to grow it out I got a couple of clones from a guy that grew out seeds. He got the seeds from a guy that he had been working with. It had all sorts of purple throughout it, but it was not solid. It had great sour grape candy terps and tasted great. They grew massive colas when left un topped. I had some decent pics on my old camera before it got stolen.

Yea I am super excited about all the GDP crosses I have been making.. I haven't gotten a ton of seeds from each project, but definitely enough to ensure future GDP in my life :) I think the GDP x Deep Chunk may be really special, as well as the GDP x Sour Grapes and of course the current GDP x Gods Gift :)

Love those GDP terps!!!

Yea my GDP rarely turns purple (mostly because my nights are not cold) but does get slight hints of purple late in flowering. Most GDP I've purchased is usually mostly green with just "specks" of purple in it... :) Wish I had some GDP right now to smoke.. LOL. love that flavor!
 
Yea I am super excited about all the GDP crosses I have been making.. I haven't gotten a ton of seeds from each project, but definitely enough to ensure future GDP in my life :) I think the GDP x Deep Chunk may be really special, as well as the GDP x Sour Grapes and of course the current GDP x Gods Gift :)

Love those GDP terps!!!

Yea my GDP rarely turns purple (mostly because my nights are not cold) but does get slight hints of purple late in flowering. Most GDP I've purchased is usually mostly green with just "specks" of purple in it... :) Wish I had some GDP right now to smoke.. LOL. love that flavor!
Funny enough the guy I got my cuts from called me over to look at his plants because he thought something was wrong. i went to look and he had purple preflowers all over the place. The GDP crosses do sound super interesting. One day soo you will have to grow a few of the crosses out and see what you may find.
 
Update time:
Flowering Day 27 of the Gods Gift Seed project.


So overall I couldn't be happier on how things are going in this project so far. (knock on wood). The Gods Gift plants are extremely easy to grow and happy as ever.

In case anyone was wondering what I am using nutrient wise on this grow, I am keeping it fairly simple and mostly synthetic as its easier to keep a batch of nutrients stable. When I was feeding with bottled organics, it was very tricky to time the PH rise without using PH adjusters, with the time the plants needed water. Since this is for seeds and not for smoking I figured why not make it easy on myself. If I was smoking it primarily, then I would be using mostly organic nutrients/natural.
So what I am using:
The soil is mostly EB Stone Recipe 420 with a little leftover promix HP in it. I didn't really amend the soil at all this run so its pretty much as it comes out of the bag.

The nutrients I am using for flowering are:

Fox Farm Tiger Bloom
Fox Farm Big Bloom
Mammoth P (microbes)
Botanicare Cal/Mag+
Bio-Cozyme (enzymes)
Bushdoctor (microbes/bacteria..etc)
humic acid (humbold nutrients)

Occasionally I will add some Earthjuice to this blend above but I'm mainly sticking to the list above for these projects. Its just easier. LOL.

Removing the males:
I removed all of the males last weekend for 2 reasons. They were dropping so much pollen I wanted to prevent a complete mess so I chopped all the pollen sacks off and put them in a bag to dry. Also I wanted to see if I could only hit the females with pollen for 1 week and then cut them off so hopefully I will get more mature seeds and less premature ones. (lets hope). I then sprayed all of the plants, the tent walls with water to deactivate the pollen, and even used a wet rag and wiped down the LED lights, cords and pretty much anything else that I could see to get any extra pollen off.

My plastic bag aka No Seed Experiment:
So this time around I wanted to try something out to see if it worked. I really miss smoking my own cannabis since I've been doing these seed projects, and the leftover flower after deseeding has so many premature seeds I can never get enough of them out to make the smoke even smokable..Therefore this time I decided to place a plastic sandwhich bag on a single top/branch on each of the gods gift females, and the black diamond og x black cherry soda (reversed) plant. I did this way back when the males first started to develop pollen sacks and placed the bags over the buds, and tried to close them off slightly, but left them fairly open to let good air exchange so I didn't develop mold, but still managed to keep pollen out.

When I spread the pollen from the males, I was not at all careful, I let the pollen fly. (and it got everywhere including the tops of my lights. It seemed like the bags worked as while the flowers outside the bags were all showing the pistils turn red/brown and shrivel up (happens when pollen is accepted by the female) and the flowers in the bag were mostly if not all white. The one issue that did happen is moisture still did develop in the very top of the bag, therefore I had to make sure every few days the bud was not directly touching the top of the bag so the moisture would cling to the bag and drip off.

So fast forward to where I left off above. After I removed the mails and sprayed down the tent, I carefully removed the plastic sandwich bags and let the buds breath. I took a look and most of the pistils are still white, and I didn't see any visible seeds developing.... so it may have worked, and if anything probably limited any seeds that do possibly develop. Lets hope that the results in the end are good, but so far so good! Makes me happy :)

Here are the 3 buds that were covered with bags:




So other than that I have not done much with the girls other than making sure that I continue to tie up the branches that fall, and move around the plants slightly to maximize their light exposure.

The Gods Gift strain plant phenotypes:
So as I mentioned earlier, the Gods Gift plants truly have a perfect name for them, as they are extremely simple to grow, and so far needing very little care at all. Both phenotypes are very similar in size of the buds developing, and trichome development is about average for the time in flowering. Pheno 4 does slightly resemble the GDP parental line in bud structure and also branching and terp profile, where Pheno 7 slightly is leaning more toward the OG Kush parental line in bud shape and leaf ratio, terps and growth/branching. The terps are still fairly light, so its hard to get a really good whiff of whats at store, but pheno 4 does seem to have more GDP/grape/berry smell with a sharp kush compliment, where pheno 7 has defintely more of a general kush type smell to it, with much less berry. Very interesting that each one leans towards a different parent. Wish I would have gotten at least 1 more female in the batch to compare but no doubt happy and very humbled to have these in my garden.

Other than that, not much else to report on so here are some pics :)


Full Tent View:


Gods Gift: Pheno 4 in front, pheno 7 in back


Pheno 4



Pheno 7





GDP:



Trainwreck


Black Diamond OG x Black Cherry Soda (reversed) (created by me)

 
Hope you get a few colas to smoke, the plants look like they’ll produce some weight.
Me too :)

I think the bag thing worked, and even if I get like 1 or 2 mature seeds in a bud, definitely still will be able to smoke it. i'm definitely hopeful, and if this works, I know in the future I will be able to dual purpose my grows :)

I haven't smoked my own bud since I started doing these projects a few years ago.. its been black market dispensary bud which I am almost certain is probably sprayed with god knows what and PGRs.

I'm drooling now thinking about it.. LOL.
 
Hard to go with black market stuff, here it’s just poorly grown, harvested early, quick dried and no cure garbage. Lol

Here, the legal market stuff here is between $60-80 an 1/8 for the "top shelf" and then add on another 35-45% taxes depending on the city/county. Most of the legal market flower is old, mids that you cant see or smell that were grown in huge commercial outfits with little care for quality. The only plus is that "you know" its tested... although I put that in parentheses as there are A LOT of legal businesses cutting regulatory corners to safe costs.

The black market stuff most of the time is much better quality and far cheaper than the "legal market stuff" here. Just not tested. I really miss the prop 215 days here where you could walk in and literally smell 50 jars of weed to see which one you liked and have it weighted out right in front of you. The black market shops are like this but I hardly go to them as a lot of them have been getting raided lately and I don't want to have my info on file at any of these places. I stick with the black market delivery who just need to see an ID and thats it. LOL. I honestly hate both options but figure it will work while doing these seed projects. Definitely can't wait to smoke my own stuff again though!
 
Nice looking plants. GL with the seed project looks like you're going to have a bunch of seed.

Black Market weed pretty decent around my neck of the woods. Free delivery and good selection no ID required only cause I already know them. lol
 
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