Dankman_420
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Wow, what a badass thread! I'll have to read back through to get some knowledge. I'm sure there's plenty to learn here 
Icemud's Breeding Projects And Motherchucking Pollination Extravaganza
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Lewydeville
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I bet you are excited and I know what you mean about wishing you had a few more tents! You definitely belong in the cannabis trade and good luck with your future projects. I know I’d buy some of your creations if you ever went down that road. I’m in the U.K. so the chance of being busted and losing cherished mother plants stops me from a serious breeding project but I do have a few regular plants going at the moment and hoping for a Male to create some beans for fun.Hey Lewydeville! Yea it had to have been at least 4 years and maybe more since I bread the BCS X BDOG. Yea its kind of odd that I haven't even run any of my own creations yet. I think its because I was so gung-ho on just breeding like a college freshman that I didn't even leave time for popping my own seeds.
Luckilly though I have a few close friends and growers that have run some of my creations but not the BCS X BDOG. They usually send me tons of pictures and give me full feedback on the final results which helps with my future projects. Really excited though to be running my own gear for once too
I wish I had about 10x more tents where I could have a bunch of different projects goingmaybe someday
I'm hoping that the BCS x BDOG turns out great and really hoping it leans towards the BDOG more than the BCS because the BDOG was so dank!
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Hey Dankman!! Welcome and thank you! Glad to have you along for the showWow, what a badass thread! I'll have to read back through to get some knowledge. I'm sure there's plenty to learn here
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Thats awful kind of you Lewydeville and definitely agree that my future would be bright and happy if I could somehow manage to get into the seed/genetics game legally
Hopefully in the coming years I can make this dream a reality and if not, at least I'm having fun doing it now i guess I could say its my hobby for now If you wanted some of the seeds that I run, you can look for "Hazeman Seeds" or if you are on IG, you can reach out to InfinityGenetics which is hazemans company. I'm not sure if he personally ships overseas, but there are a lot of seedbanks that offer his gear as well. I have not been let down yet and there are a ton of people who have run and enjoyed Hazemans stuff Eventually I will get to the point where I can produce enough seeds to sell and make a good living, but still have to figure out how to do it the right way and not jeopordize my freedom of live I wish our damn government would pull their thinkers out of their stinkers and make it fully legal (without restriction, permits and regulations). I guess one can dream. Thanks for your kind words and really appreciate you chiming in as well
All it takes is 1 male and a tent of females and you will have enough seeds to last you for a decade or more its a ton of fun "pollen chucking"
Dankman_420
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Thanks for the warm welcome! I've had lots of fun so far with my breeding project and I haven't even got to pollinate my girls yet. I'm already looking forward to my next project. Brings a whole new level of fun to this already awesome hobby
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Thanks that’s good to know about the Hazeman Seeds, I’ve just checked the bank I use and they stock a good range of them so I’ll definitely grab some next order.Thats awful kind of you Lewydeville and definitely agree that my future would be bright and happy if I could somehow manage to get into the seed/genetics game legally
Thanks for your kind words and really appreciate you chiming in as well
Hopefully I might have a good supply of my own soon
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Hey Everyone... Happy St. Patricks day!!!! Hope everyone is celebrating with some Green today
I also hope everyone is safe and being cautious with the whole coronavirus thing going on.. pretty crazy times.
I'll do a quick update of my projects.
The Apollo 13 seed project:
Well I've been kind of embarrased to report or show photos of this project as I screwed up late flowering. I gave the girls either too much calcium or too high PPM of a feeding around day 55, which completely fried the leaves on almost all of the plants. Almost overnight most of the plants leaves turned brown and it went as far as killing my gorilla glue and almost 2 of the apollo 13 females. Luckilly the project was near completion and I think I still will manage to get a ton of viable seeds so not a total loss, but pretty embarassing as the plants were going so good for the entire grow only to screw it up with me "changing things" late in flowering. I took all the plants down on Sunday which was day 74 of flowering and they are all currently hanging to dry. Although the project still should turn out ok, I wish they would have been more "photographic" at the end because the apollo's really stacked some fat buds.
The Gods Gift project:
This project is looking fantastic and is still in veg. The plants are really vegging fast and probably about 2 to 3' high right now. Since it will be another 2 weeks before the other tent is ready I will be starting to take clones later this week in prep for getting the next seed project going. I haven't decided what seeds will be next to pop after the gods gift project, but I am leaning towards Fruity Pebbles OG, Blueberry, Chocolate Thai and 88G13HP. I also recently aquired a bunch of cannarado seeds from a buddy so I may even throw a couple of those into the mix too
Anyways stay safe everyone!!!! UV-C lights work great for killing viruses, bacteria, molds etc.. but are also extremely hazardous to eyes and human skin. I use one to "sterilize" all of my groceries before they even enter my cabinets or refrigerator. A little extra piece of mind in these crazy times.
I also hope everyone is safe and being cautious with the whole coronavirus thing going on.. pretty crazy times.
I'll do a quick update of my projects.
The Apollo 13 seed project:
Well I've been kind of embarrased to report or show photos of this project as I screwed up late flowering. I gave the girls either too much calcium or too high PPM of a feeding around day 55, which completely fried the leaves on almost all of the plants. Almost overnight most of the plants leaves turned brown and it went as far as killing my gorilla glue and almost 2 of the apollo 13 females. Luckilly the project was near completion and I think I still will manage to get a ton of viable seeds so not a total loss, but pretty embarassing as the plants were going so good for the entire grow only to screw it up with me "changing things" late in flowering. I took all the plants down on Sunday which was day 74 of flowering and they are all currently hanging to dry. Although the project still should turn out ok, I wish they would have been more "photographic" at the end because the apollo's really stacked some fat buds.
The Gods Gift project:
This project is looking fantastic and is still in veg. The plants are really vegging fast and probably about 2 to 3' high right now. Since it will be another 2 weeks before the other tent is ready I will be starting to take clones later this week in prep for getting the next seed project going. I haven't decided what seeds will be next to pop after the gods gift project, but I am leaning towards Fruity Pebbles OG, Blueberry, Chocolate Thai and 88G13HP. I also recently aquired a bunch of cannarado seeds from a buddy so I may even throw a couple of those into the mix too
Anyways stay safe everyone!!!! UV-C lights work great for killing viruses, bacteria, molds etc.. but are also extremely hazardous to eyes and human skin. I use one to "sterilize" all of my groceries before they even enter my cabinets or refrigerator. A little extra piece of mind in these crazy times.
Happy St Patrick's Day to you ice! They aren't all the bell of the ball, but they're all fine to me!
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Final Report and Results on Apollo 13 F4 seed project:
Hey everyone!!! I hope all of you are healthy and staying safe during these strange times with the coronavirus among us all.
Sorry to everyone who was expecting more updates on the Apollo 13 seed project. I have finally completed the Apollo 13 project and I am ready to get going on the next project which will be gods gift. My apologies that I dropped the ball on updated with the apollo 13 project. About mid-late flowering I decided to add a spoonful of calcium carbonate to one of my feedings which really screwed up my soil ph and EC and fried my plants... Although I still managed to get a very successful seed harvest, the plants looked like absolute crap, and I was slightly embarrased to show them off in the horrible state they were in... which is mainly why I haven't updated in a long time. I guess I probably should have shown them anyways to show that mistakes happen, especially when you try things outside of the norm. Anyhow. Here is the final update for the Apollo 13 project.
Here are the seeds harvested:
As you can see I got quite a good haul of seeds this run, so definitely am pleased that my goal was accomplished, even thought the plants didn't look their best in the end.
So here are my personal breeding notes for this project: (I always keep personal notes along the grow so I can reference them later in the future when I need to know details about phenotypes and selections.)
Apollo 13 (F4) flowering.
(Source and backstory)
From Hazeman's private seed collection. Released by Motarebal and bred by Mendel in Colorado.
Motarebel told me that this line is an open pollenation to keep the variety. Mendel was believed to have used 5 different keeper cut females and a few different males to keep the line diverse while also keeping her pure.
Here is some additional information posted on a different forum by MrSoul about Apollo 11 and 13:
Mr. Soul
Final report:
Overall I was pleasantly pleased with the overall growth, health and ease of growing the Apollo 13 (up until I shocked my plants with the calcium carbonate). There were 2 different expressions in terms of height, 2 plants were much taller than the other 2. All leaves were similar but there was quite a bit of variation still between the branching differences, bud structures and overall yield. The terpenes of all the phentypes were very similar but not exactly the same, but mostly shared a citrus sweet floral/tropical type smell with a hint of pine. Overall I would say citrus/tropical fruit is the terp profile. Trichome development ranged from excellent on the 2 select phenotypes (short and tall one) and mediocre on the other 2 phenotypes. Unfortunately I did not get a chance to smoke any of the flower (I tried) but there were too many little seed parts within the flower to get a good hit where it didn't taste like seeds. I did however use my keif box and separated the resin glands from the biomass/plant material and did smoke the kief. The high was definitely very sativa dom, energetic, awakening, motivating and uppity feeling. Great daytime smoke for getting stuff done Would I recommend this strain? yea I probably would for anyone who like a very exotic flavored citrus/tropical fruit flavored bud with an uplifting high, this would be the remedy
Cleaning out the tent:
Between seed projects, I am meticulious about sterilizing and cleaning the grow tents, as pollen gets EVERYWHERE!!!! Here is an example: This is the top of my LED grow light used in the Apollo 13 project. As you can see its covered with pollen (and probably dust) from just 1 single run. Between each project I literally remove everything other than my fan/carbon scrubber. Every surface (including the scrubber and fan) gets sprayed with bleach/water solution and wiped down. I completely remove the bottom "tray" and scrub it clean, as well as lysol it to make sure no mold/mildew grows on the canvas. After the tent fully dries I spray it down again with bleach water and wipe it down 1 more time to ensure no pollen gets into the next project. Any plant material is swept up and then the "cracks and crevices" are vacuumed. On the last run I used my Advanced LED XTE 300 panels and a single budmaster COB, however after last grow BOTH of the Advanced LED XTE panels have broken where the "intensity dial/pot" has gone haywire and causing my led's to flicker... I've only used these panels for a couple years and keep them in extremely good condition so for them to break this quickly I am kind of disappointed. Although they were given to me for free as a "sponsorship" I have to say for expensive panels I really was hoping to get more than a few years out of them. So for the next run I will be using my faithful budmasters which are still working perfectly
Here is an example of how pollen gets everywhere...
Here is the clean tent ready for the next project:
Whats next:
Next up will be my Gods Gift strain seed project in which I have 6 plants in late veg and are ready to flip to flowering. Thus far I have identified only 2 females, and the other 4 seem to be males. I will be using all of the plants in the next project as some of the males lean more to the "og kush" parents on a stem rub and sniff, where some seem to lean more to the GDP side, so for variety I will use all the males. I have already put the Gods gift and all of the other plants which will be part of the Gods Gift project into the tent. I am awaiting all of the clones I took of each plant to root and then I will be flipping this to flowering. (I will do a separate update shortly with the details of the gods gift project.).
As for whats up next after the gods gift... I am undecided. I am leaning between a few of the hazeman genetics I have including: super strawberry diesel, chocolate thai, fruity pebbles OG (not a hazeman creation, from his private collection) and DJ shorts blueberry (given to me by hazeman out of his collection). I also will be adding 1-2 feminized seeds from Cannarado to this project which will include some Sundae Driver S1's, and some Wedding Cake S1s. I just have not decided which base "males" that I will use in the next project but I am really leaning towards FPOG and Super Strawberry Diesel. I will decide in the next week or 2 as I wait for the clones to root.
Well thank you everyone who has followed along with this project and I appreciate each and every one of you!!! Stay tuned for an update and photos of the gods gift project which will be coming soon to a journal near you Also to announce... I am hitting the big 40 years old in the next few days... say goodby to my 30s and hello to the next decade of fun Wish me well lol
Hey everyone!!! I hope all of you are healthy and staying safe during these strange times with the coronavirus among us all.
Sorry to everyone who was expecting more updates on the Apollo 13 seed project. I have finally completed the Apollo 13 project and I am ready to get going on the next project which will be gods gift. My apologies that I dropped the ball on updated with the apollo 13 project. About mid-late flowering I decided to add a spoonful of calcium carbonate to one of my feedings which really screwed up my soil ph and EC and fried my plants... Although I still managed to get a very successful seed harvest, the plants looked like absolute crap, and I was slightly embarrased to show them off in the horrible state they were in... which is mainly why I haven't updated in a long time. I guess I probably should have shown them anyways to show that mistakes happen, especially when you try things outside of the norm. Anyhow. Here is the final update for the Apollo 13 project.
Here are the seeds harvested:
As you can see I got quite a good haul of seeds this run, so definitely am pleased that my goal was accomplished, even thought the plants didn't look their best in the end.
So here are my personal breeding notes for this project: (I always keep personal notes along the grow so I can reference them later in the future when I need to know details about phenotypes and selections.)
Apollo 13 (F4) flowering.
(Source and backstory)
From Hazeman's private seed collection. Released by Motarebal and bred by Mendel in Colorado.
Motarebel told me that this line is an open pollenation to keep the variety. Mendel was believed to have used 5 different keeper cut females and a few different males to keep the line diverse while also keeping her pure.
Here is some additional information posted on a different forum by MrSoul about Apollo 11 and 13:
Mr. Soul
Final report:
Overall I was pleasantly pleased with the overall growth, health and ease of growing the Apollo 13 (up until I shocked my plants with the calcium carbonate). There were 2 different expressions in terms of height, 2 plants were much taller than the other 2. All leaves were similar but there was quite a bit of variation still between the branching differences, bud structures and overall yield. The terpenes of all the phentypes were very similar but not exactly the same, but mostly shared a citrus sweet floral/tropical type smell with a hint of pine. Overall I would say citrus/tropical fruit is the terp profile. Trichome development ranged from excellent on the 2 select phenotypes (short and tall one) and mediocre on the other 2 phenotypes. Unfortunately I did not get a chance to smoke any of the flower (I tried) but there were too many little seed parts within the flower to get a good hit where it didn't taste like seeds. I did however use my keif box and separated the resin glands from the biomass/plant material and did smoke the kief. The high was definitely very sativa dom, energetic, awakening, motivating and uppity feeling. Great daytime smoke for getting stuff done
Would I recommend this strain? yea I probably would for anyone who like a very exotic flavored citrus/tropical fruit flavored bud with an uplifting high, this would be the remedy Cleaning out the tent:
Between seed projects, I am meticulious about sterilizing and cleaning the grow tents, as pollen gets EVERYWHERE!!!! Here is an example: This is the top of my LED grow light used in the Apollo 13 project. As you can see its covered with pollen (and probably dust) from just 1 single run. Between each project I literally remove everything other than my fan/carbon scrubber. Every surface (including the scrubber and fan) gets sprayed with bleach/water solution and wiped down. I completely remove the bottom "tray" and scrub it clean, as well as lysol it to make sure no mold/mildew grows on the canvas. After the tent fully dries I spray it down again with bleach water and wipe it down 1 more time to ensure no pollen gets into the next project. Any plant material is swept up and then the "cracks and crevices" are vacuumed. On the last run I used my Advanced LED XTE 300 panels and a single budmaster COB, however after last grow BOTH of the Advanced LED XTE panels have broken where the "intensity dial/pot" has gone haywire and causing my led's to flicker... I've only used these panels for a couple years and keep them in extremely good condition so for them to break this quickly I am kind of disappointed. Although they were given to me for free as a "sponsorship" I have to say for expensive panels I really was hoping to get more than a few years out of them. So for the next run I will be using my faithful budmasters which are still working perfectly
Here is an example of how pollen gets everywhere...
Here is the clean tent ready for the next project:
Whats next:
Next up will be my Gods Gift strain seed project in which I have 6 plants in late veg and are ready to flip to flowering. Thus far I have identified only 2 females, and the other 4 seem to be males. I will be using all of the plants in the next project as some of the males lean more to the "og kush" parents on a stem rub and sniff, where some seem to lean more to the GDP side, so for variety I will use all the males. I have already put the Gods gift and all of the other plants which will be part of the Gods Gift project into the tent. I am awaiting all of the clones I took of each plant to root and then I will be flipping this to flowering. (I will do a separate update shortly with the details of the gods gift project.).
As for whats up next after the gods gift... I am undecided. I am leaning between a few of the hazeman genetics I have including: super strawberry diesel, chocolate thai, fruity pebbles OG (not a hazeman creation, from his private collection) and DJ shorts blueberry (given to me by hazeman out of his collection). I also will be adding 1-2 feminized seeds from Cannarado to this project which will include some Sundae Driver S1's, and some Wedding Cake S1s. I just have not decided which base "males" that I will use in the next project but I am really leaning towards FPOG and Super Strawberry Diesel. I will decide in the next week or 2 as I wait for the clones to root.
Well thank you everyone who has followed along with this project and I appreciate each and every one of you!!! Stay tuned for an update and photos of the gods gift project which will be coming soon to a journal near you
Also to announce... I am hitting the big 40 years old in the next few days... say goodby to my 30s and hello to the next decade of fun Wish me well lol
...Nice job... 
...young buck...
...cheerz...
...young buck......cheerz...
Happy Bday Youngin, the Apollo project looks like a success. Can’t wait until Gods Gift project starts. We missed you around here.
Dude, you're a seed-making machine! 
I hope you have something better to do with all those besides store them!
Although, with all that pollen floating around, I'm not sure I'd try growing anything out in that tent, or under that light, or with those fans, or in that room, or anywhere within a 10 mile radius of your current location!
Happy birthday, Brother!
I hope you have something better to do with all those besides store them!
Although, with all that pollen floating around, I'm not sure I'd try growing anything out in that tent, or under that light, or with those fans, or in that room, or anywhere within a 10 mile radius of your current location!
Happy birthday, Brother!
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Thank you Pennywise!!! Yea the Apollo Project (despite the calcium issue) turned out really good and got alot of seeds for future use
Thanks for the Bday wishes! Gods gift project is ready to flower, as soon as all the clones root its game on should be within the next 2 weeks
Just vaped some Gods Gift a couple of weeks ago.
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Dude, you're a seed-making machine!
I hope you have something better to do with all those besides store them!
Although, with all that pollen floating around, I'm not sure I'd try growing anything out in that tent, or under that light, or with those fans, or in that room, or anywhere within a 10 mile radius of your current location!
Happy birthday, Brother!
Haha... yea I definitely have a seed bank now.. .LOL... eventually I would like to be able to offer the seeds to the public but the costs of licensing have to come down significantly as the cities, counties and states are far too greedy with the taxes, fees and regulations. (at least to do it legally). LOL. I do have a few very close friends that I have gifted some beans to and who have been giving me feedback on some of my crosses. So far quite a few winners and lots of good feedback
Yea that pollen gets everywhere... luckilly as soon as the pollen spreads and hits the girls I've been removing the males and putting all the pollen sacks into bags to dry. Trying to minimize the spread of it since it goes everywhere
I guess all and all, since I don't really have a retirement savings.. these seeds may come in handy some day
Happy Birthday man! My vote still goes to the FPOG. It looks like you got quite a few seeds out of this run even despote the mishap! Sucks that two of your panels are on the fritz.
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Thank you Gyeti! Much appreciated! Yea I got quite a bit of seeds and there seemed to be a good percentage being fully mature with tiger stripes which is a win in my book
Yea bummer about those Advanced LED panels. I actually have 3 of those and the 3rd one failed about a year ago on me. I think its probably the drivers or the potentiometer but im going to reach out to the company and see if they have a solution. I see they pulled this entire model line off their website so maybe it was a known issue? I'm fortunate though to have the Budmasters on hand so no delay in the project
Hope all is well and thanks for the Bday wishes!!!
It is definitely a good thing you have those budmasters on hand! They look like they have treated you very well! Hopefully Advanced will be able to help you get those panels firing again.