Humid Temperate Colombian Andes Greenhouse Organic Grow

[cbdhemp808]

Assuming the sativa phenos are resistant, I think I have NL CBD.

Do you mean, you think that if some of the NL CBD seeds turn out to be sativa phenos, they will be bud rot resistant? Have you grown any that have turned out to be bud rot resistant?

However, Kush is still highly desirable, because I have multiple spinal injuries, and Kush makes me want to do deep stretching (which is very beneficial).
Only, in the Kush department, you have recommended both Afghan Kush and Pineapple Kush.
Assuming I can find phenos that are adapted and mold resistant here, may I please ask your comparative opinions of each?

Again, I think you should separate the though process regarding THC plants and CBD plants—don't try to stack requirements together. It will be tough enough to find anything that grows well at 9,000+ ft elevation, in a cool-ish, humid environment.

Both Afghan Kush and Northern Lights #5 are THC indica plants. Either one would probably give you the body affects you're looking for.

The Pineapple Kush that I mentioned (East Fork Cultivars) is a type III CBD plant, and yes, looks like it has good potential for bud rot resistance. Other strains labeled "Pineapple Kush" may not be type III CBD.

I have told you about some other good possibilities for bud rot resistant CBDs... Oregon CBD/GTR Seeds.

I know you recommended Afghan Kush because it is highly resistant.

It should be... I haven't grown it (yet). Ditto for Northern Lights #5.

You also recommended Tweedle Creek and East Fork Pineapple Kush cultivars in specific, but they do not ship.

Review my previous post(s) in this thread re: Oregon CBD/GTR Seeds. They have some amazing stuff.

EDIT:
Assuming I can find a mold-resistant pheno, do you have an opinion as to which strain would hypothetically be better?
I cannot remember why you recommended Pineapple Kush, but I think it had something to do with phenos.
Or beyond mold resistance is it simply a matter of personal preference?
Thanks.

Terpenes my friend, terpenes. Terpinolene and/or Ocimene dominant, or prominent, implies bud rot resistance. That's my theory. They bring with them the other pine terpenes... they lead and their piney buddies follow. The odor will be piney/skunky. You want lots of resin, and in the terpene profiles, you'll see high amounts of "total terpenes".

When they are dominant, this usually implies you'll get sativa effects. When they are prominent, you can get 50/50 balanced affects, or in the case of something like Afghan Kush or Northern Lights #5, you'll get indica effects.

 

[cbdhemp808]

I agree, I think this Dr. Biche CBD project will take a lot of work...

What I said before... I don't recommend breeding at this stage of the game, and especially at 9,000+ ft elevation in an outdoor greenhouse.

Regarding "adaptation"... Again, what you want are good quality seed lines (e.g. GTR Seeds, Humboldt Seed Co.) that are already inherently bud rot resistant. In terms of adaptation to high-elevation equatorial zones, re-read what I said about The Real Seed Company... landraces. This is important if you don't plan to heat the greenhouse.

 

[CBDMed]

Do you mean, you think that if some of the NL CBD seeds turn out to be sativa phenos, they will be bud rot resistant?

Good questions. To clarify, based on your and others' comments, I am led to believe that sativas are in general more bud rot resistant, but that is not to say that this particular sativa pheno will be.
That is why I have said repeatedly that it is a game of cracking seeds, and seeing what makes it in this humidity.
I have lost several allegedly "resistant" strains to mold. I lose some, and I have to chop them early (EDIT but I still get some).
In a previous grow, the NL CBD Autos had one plant that lost two colas, and I have lost other colas (Eleven Roses Auto) and other whole plants (Blueberry Crystal Auto, and Purple Kush Auto).
I am growing a NL sativa pheno indoors under LED now. IF it survives the grow room with no bud rot, I plan to plant the two sativa pheno clones.
If it does NOT survive the grow room with no bud rot, there is no point even trying the greenhouse.

Have you grown any that have turned out to be bud rot resistant?

Not yet, but since this one is a sativa photo, I wonder if it MIGHT make it. And I have two clones, in case it does.
I did not maintain the NL CBD Auto strains for obvious reasons.
EDIT: even if I have to chop the NL CBD sativa photos early, I should still get enough of that strain for when I want that strain.
And if I need to I can replace with normal NL and mix in the grinder.

Again, I think you should separate the though process regarding THC plants and CBD plants—don't try to stack requirements together. It will be tough enough to find anything that grows well at 9,000+ ft elevation, in a cool-ish, humid environment.

Thank you.
As previously stated, the Mango Biche is from this valley, and you yourself stated that the Dr. Seedsman 30:1 is bud rot resistant (but not leaf rot resistant).
Also as previously stated, the locals believe it will adapt. (Maybe not in an inverted season, but they believe it will adapt).

Both Afghan Kush and Northern Lights #5 are THC indica plants. Either one would probably give you the body affects you're looking for.

Right.
Thanks.

The Pineapple Kush that I mentioned (East Fork Cultivars) is a type III CBD plant, and yes, looks like it has good potential for bud rot resistance. Other strains labeled "Pineapple Kush" may not be type III CBD.

Right.
(The ones I have are THC only, to my knowledge.)

I have told you about some other good possibilities for bud rot resistant CBDs... Oregon CBD/GTR Seeds.

Yes, but I did not see CBD Kush.
You have recommended mixing in the grinder, and that may be the easiest way out.

It should be... I haven't grown it (yet). Ditto for Northern Lights #5.

Review my previous post(s) in this thread re: Oregon CBD/GTR Seeds. They have some amazing stuff.

Right. But no CBD Kush.

Terpenes my friend, terpenes. Terpinolene and/or Ocimene dominant, or prominent, implies bud rot resistance. That's my theory. They bring with them the other pine terpenes... they lead and their piney buddies follow. The odor will be piney/skunky. You want lots of resin, and in the terpene profiles, you'll see high amounts of "total terpenes".

Thank you.

When they are dominant, this usually implies you'll get sativa effects. When they are prominent, you can get 50/50 balanced affects, or in the case of something like Afghan Kush or Northern Lights #5, you'll get indica effects.

 

[CBDMed]

What I said before... I don't recommend breeding at this stage of the game, and especially at 9,000+ ft elevation in an outdoor greenhouse.

Yes, and humid, thank you.
I appreciate your expert advice and help very much.
The thing is, my contractor and his son believe it will work, and they want to try.
My manager is also curious to see how SWICK goes. (He has glaucoma, and may be interested in reducing intra-ocular pressure.)
I think it is the wrong time of year, but I am also curious to get visibility on their skills, and I think it would be a good experiment that will also show me what they are capable of, and it won't cost much.

Regarding "adaptation"... Again, what you want are good quality seed lines (e.g. GTR Seeds, Humboldt Seed Co.) that are already inherently bud rot resistant.

If we are seeking desired established lines, what I really want is a CBD Pineapple Kush. I see people selling CBD Pineapple Kush flowers here, but so far I have not found anyone selling seeds or cultivars.
If they sell the flowers here, someone probably sells the seeds (I just need to do a deeper dive).
In the meantime, I think it would be fun to try to get a Mango Biche CBD (so I can communicate through the Saturnian Wifi). I have zero doubt that my skills won't compare to a real breeder, but is it wrong to cross two strains???

And if we hypothetically lose most of the plants to mold, and we only end up with one or two that are resistant, then we have our seed mothers.
And if we plant in late March or early April, we should be on track for next year.
I still will not have a CBD Pineapple Kush, but we can mix in the grinder for now.

In terms of adaptation to high-elevation equatorial zones, re-read what I said about The Real Seed Company... landraces. This is important if you don't plan to heat the greenhouse.

Angus of The Real Seed Company writes:

Hi Norman,

Thanks for getting in touch

The only landraces that could be called 'CBD landraces' are hemp landraces

We do have a tropical hemp landrace here - from a Hmong region of Laos
https://therealseedcompany.com/product/hmong-hemp-cannabis-landrace-strain-seeds/

But it's not been worked for high-CBD

It's direct from the Hmong farmers

I can make no guarantees as to the CBD output

I feel it's also worth adding here:

We focus on preservation of biodiversity

Cannabis is losing biodiversity at horrifying speed

The main cause of this is people introducing nonnative strains to regions of traditional cultivation

Being based in Colombia, hopefully you can focus on in-situ preservation of Colombian landraces

Anything else, let me know

Best wishes

Angus

Well, I think I like his attitude toward preserving biodiversity in general. Only, in the meantime, I have got to get my medical needs met.
Consider, Angus does not really want me to buy Hmong cannabis and plant it in Colombia, we already have a fully-adapted Mango Biche THC landrace from this valley, so the only one that needs to adjust will be Dr. Seedsman.
I understand that there is a difference of elevation, but so far the stuff I plant for my indoor LED grows all comes up and grows just fine.
If it survives the grow room under LED, then the next level of challenge is to grow it outdoors in a greenhouse.
We already know that outdoors is more challenging, but the contractor already grew cannabis outdoors in the Cauca, and I am not sure if they even had plastic over the top. (Maybe, but not sure.)
You will have Mango Biche tropical sativa grown against the normal season, but I do not see the problem.
You will have Dr. Seedsman 30:1 which is growing in the grow room just fine right now.
We will have fans, and the point is precisely to see what makes it, and what does not, so with all the respect, I am not sure why it is a problem.

If you ask me, the only problem is going against the season, but it will probably still work.
Probably there will be a lot more mold than usual, but this will only go to show us which Dr. Seedsman strains are the MOST mold resistant, for the seed mother.
We have 10 Dr. Seedsman seed-mother candidates.
I have wayyyyyy too many Mango Biche, but we can get some good seeds and clones--and again we can select for what does best in a torture-test environment.
I don't see the problem.

Hahaha, the problem is that I do not yet have a CBD Pineapple Kush, or a Dr. Mango CBD!
And next year I have to start at the right time...
I hope to be explaining well.

 

[cbdhemp808]

Yes, but I did not see CBD Kush.

I recommend an indica-leaning or 50/50 type III CBD... doesn't really need to be a kush.

As per theory, for bud rot resistance you need high terpinolene and/or ocimene and high pine terps, and that's hard to find in an indica (kush or otherwise), plus you need it to be type III CBD.

GTR Seeds...

Sour Space Candy might work... it's a 50/50 with very high terpinolene/pine terps, but also high non-pine terps (humulene, myrcene, caryophyllene, limonene). 15% CBD. Total terps 2.5%. Very nice! ... I want some.

The Super Sour Space Candy is definitely also worth a try, and may even be more indica-leaning. Similar CBD% and higher resin production. Seed costs a bit more. I want some, too!!

 

[CBDMed]

Sorry if anyone mentioned this before. You might have.
I am just thinking about how to do this the best with my setup, and mulling...



Since I have a clone/seedling room at home, and they will also have a (larger) clone room on the farm, maybe we need a male pollen tent also (I think multiple people suggested it).
That way I can send all the known females to the greenhouse in their new spacious supersoil SWICK homes, so they can get established...

Then maybe I can up-pot the regulars into plastic pots, and they can maintain them on the farm with lights (veg).
But BEFORE I send the regulars in plastic pots, I need to take clones that I can flip and see what gender they are.
Then we can take the single best male, and isolate him in a DIFFERENT tent on the other side of the farm.
That way, instead of having pollen fly everywhere (and then you have billions of seeds), we can chop the best looking male, and apply his pollen to one or two branches on the best looking mothers.
That way we get pollen from the best male on one or two branches on the best looking females, and everything else can be sin-semilla--and STILL we get our seeds and clones (ha!).

I would have to get another light string, but it would give me sinsemilla, and much better pollen control...
And still cheap but much-better-targeted breeding.
Thanks everyone for all the ideas! It took me a while to put it together.

 

[CBDMed]

I recommend an indica-leaning or 50/50 type III CBD... doesn't really need to be a kush.

Hmm...
Well, thanks!! But maybe not everyone is the same?
At least from my point of view, Kush seems to make me want to do deep yoga-like stretching and breathing, which for someone with my spine and injuries is a real blessing.

To clarify, are you perhaps suggesting that the deep yoga-like stretching and breathing effect could be not limited to Kush, but that it could be a product of the pheno combinations--and that these same combination of phenos might also exist in other cultivars (such that they also might make me want to stretch)?

NL seems to make me want to stretch a little, but I think Kush makes me want to stretch more. Purple Kush CBD Auto really did it for me, but it molded in the grow room.
These little Kush Flash VanStitch are supposed to be pretty potent, and mold and pest resistant, but very low yield. (So I will get a taste, and that is about all.)

As per theory, for bud rot resistance you need high terpinolene and/or ocimene and high pine terps, and that's hard to find in an indica (kush or otherwise), plus you need it to be type III CBD.

Um, ok.
But if Terpinolene and Ocimene high pine terps are the thing, and they are not so much found in Kush, then why are Kush mold resistant??
(Sorry, not getting it.)

GTR Seeds...

Sour Space Candy might work... it's a 50/50 with very high terpinolene/pine terps, but also high non-pine terps (humulene, myrcene, caryophyllene, limonene). 15% CBD. Total terps 2.5%. Very nice! ... I want some.

Hahaha!

The Super Sour Space Candy is definitely also worth a try, and may even be more indica-leaning. Similar CBD% and higher resin production. Seed costs a bit more. I want some, too!!

Hahahaha, !!

Only, will they make me want to stretch like Kush??
I ask because Haze is very powerful, but it does not make me want to stretch.
Northern Light CBD makes me want to stretch some, but not like Kush.
Purple Kush CBD Auto made me want to stretch, but they molded right there in the grow room. I have no idea if that was a function of the Kush, or what CBD they mixed it with, or what Auto genetic they mixed it with. (It might be similar to NL CBD in that way.)
Seedfinder.eu shows several different strains with the same name.
I think the one I bought was from Seedsman, but I am not sure if this is the strain or not:

Description​

Purple Kush CBD 1:1 Auto feminised is the product of a cross between Purple Kush Auto CBD x Purple Afghan Auto CBD. It is 90% indica and 10% sativa in terms of its genetics.
This strain is the 1:1 (CBD:THC) version of Pink Kush CBD 30:1 Auto. Total grow time is just 9 weeks from germination. It achieves a high production in this time and the bud has an earthy, fruity taste. Its effect is physical and relaxing but always perfectly easy to handle.

It does not advertise mold resistance, and suggests it is suitable for a dry climate.
I need a photo CBD Kush that works here in a wet climate.
I did a quick internet search, and there are plenty of CBD Kush out there. I suppose I can do a deeper dive, and try to find CBD Pineapple Kush, or really just any good CBD Kush that has good mold resistance.
I do not know if you are answering this, and I am not getting it (which may be the case), but Kush does not have the same terpinolene, ocimene, or pine entourage, and yet Afghan Kush is still resistant to mold.

I just did a quick internet search, and this is from Blimburn Seeds:

Lineage Afghan Kush Strain​

The strain resulting from the cross between a Afghan x OG Kush will produce a hybrid strain that is mostly indica. The strain will likely have herbal, pine, and woody flavors with a strong, mostly indica body high.It also has a Medium THC of 16 – 21%, making it a great choice for those looking for a strong and relaxing experience.

The Afghan Kush strain is a cross between Afghan x Kush, resulting in a strain with herbal, pine, and woody flavors, accompanied by energetic, relaxed, and sedative effects from a combination of cannabis flower, cannabis concentrate, and terpenes.

The terpenes found in Afghan Kush are to include Alpha-Pinene, Beta-Caryophyllene, Beta-Pinene, Caryophyllene, Humulene, Limonene, Linalool, Myrcene, and Terpineol, which are known for their fatigue, muscle spasm, and stress relieving properties.

I do not see terpinolene or ocimene.
Yet it has good mold resistance???
Me not get...

 

[CBDMed]

Weed Seeds Express has a CBD Kush that claims high fungal resistance... but for an arid climate?????

Strain Info​

THC level8 %
CBD level8 %
TypeHybrid
Ruderalis0 %
Sativa50 %
Indica50 %
GeneticsKandy Kush X CBD dominant variety
Yield indoor500-600 grams per m2
Yield outdoor600-700 grams per plant
Height indoor80-120 cm
Height outdoor120-180 cm
Flowering time56-63 days
Fungal resistanceHigh
Grower profileBeginner
SOG/SCROGNo
CultivationIndoor, Outdoor, Greenhouse
ClimateTemperate, Mediterranean, Arid
FlavorsEarthy, Spicy, Sweet, Woody, Kush, Pine
EffectsEuphoric, Happy, Relaxed, Uplifting
TerpenesFenchol, Borneol, Camphene, Ocimene, Alpha Pinene, Beta Caryophyllene, Eugenol, Cadinene, Citral, Alpha Cedrene, Humulene


Hmmm.....
Maybe I have to get an Afghan Kush, and then mix it in the grinder??
(Hahahaha, is that what you have been trying to tell me?? Hahahaha )

 

[budnoob3]

If you want a mold resistant kush check out kosher kush, never ever had a problem with it in 16 years including this year when all my other crops got hit.

 

[CBDMed]

If you want a mold resistant kush check out kosher kush, never ever had a problem with it in 16 years including this year when all my other crops got hit.

Excelente!
Sorry to hear that your other crops got hit.
Just to give me an idea, what is the location of your grow where you got hit?

 

[budnoob3]

Excelente!
Sorry to hear that your other crops got hit.
Just to give me an idea, what is the location of your grow where you got hit?

Got hit in CT - very wet year

 

[cbdhemp808]

Hmm...
Well, thanks!! But maybe not everyone is the same?
At least from my point of view, Kush seems to make me want to do deep yoga-like stretching and breathing, which for someone with my spine and injuries is a real blessing.

To clarify, are you perhaps suggesting that the deep yoga-like stretching and breathing effect could be not limited to Kush, but that it could be a product of the pheno combinations--and that these same combination of phenos might also exist in other cultivars (such that they also might make me want to stretch)?

"Kush" literally means from the Hindu Kush region, and these are original indica landraces. So you've got Hindu Kush strain, Afghan Kush strain, and they are from Central Asia. So what I'm saying is, a true indica is actually a Kush. I mean, more or less I think we can say that.

Then you've got modern hybrids that contain kush (indica) genetics, for example Banana Kush, which has lots of Hindu Kush in its lineage (see Seedfinder.eu).

So my point is, lots of indica-dominant hybrids contain kush genetics, and lots will give you that amazing pain-numbing body high that facilitates stretching, yoga, and massage. I use Blueberry and Humboldt Dream, and both have this effect.

NL seems to make me want to stretch a little, but I think Kush makes me want to stretch more. Purple Kush CBD Auto really did it for me, but it molded in the grow room.

I think we can safely say that Northern Lights is a direct descendant of Afghan Kush. Different phenos will have some variation with effects.

But if Terpinolene and Ocimene high pine terps are the thing, and they are not so much found in Kush, then why are Kush mold resistant??

Any modern hybrid named So-And-So Kush likely has Hindu Kush or Afghan Kush in its lineage. What matters is the strain and the phenotype of the strain, to find one with high levels of terpinolene and/or ocimene, and other pine terpenes. I would say there are plenty of kush hybrids that are likely not bud rot resistant. Afghan Kush likely is, as well as Northern Lights #5 (descendant of Afghan Kush).

Another kush that looks promising for bud rot resistance is Banana Kush. Another one is Critical Kush, w/ pheno(s) high in ocimene and pinene.

We just can't generalize and say kushes are fungus/mold resistant. We can say that some phenos of modern kush hybrids, and some phenos of landrace kushes, are fungus/mold resistant. I happen to think the Central Asian landraces (kush/indica) got their fungus/mold resistance by cross-breeding with Indian sativas.

Only, will they make me want to stretch like Kush??
I ask because Haze is very powerful, but it does not make me want to stretch.
Northern Light CBD makes me want to stretch some, but not like Kush.
Purple Kush CBD Auto made me want to stretch, but they molded right there in the grow room. I have no idea if that was a function of the Kush, or what CBD they mixed it with, or what Auto genetic they mixed it with. (It might be similar to NL CBD in that way.)
Seedfinder.eu shows several different strains with the same name.

I'll repeat what I've always been saying, and that's to not stack all the requirements into one plant. Find your bud rot resistant THC indica plant, and find your bud rot resistant 50/50 or indica-leaning CBD plant. Then mix the flower using the grinder.

Keep in mind that CBD tends to moderate the psychoactive effects of THC, so you can mix CBD with your high-THC indica buds, in the right amount, to get an even deeper body high.

RE: Afghan Kush from Blimburn

I do not see terpinolene or ocimene.

Trust me, there are Afghan Kush phenos that are high in terpinolene and pine terpenes. It's a matter of finding a good seed line, then you grow them out and look for the phenos. Ditto for Northern Lights #5.

Blimburn isn't providing terpene profiles (with percent of each terpene), and they probably don't provide any information on the phenotypes either.

 

[cbdhemp808]

Maybe I have to get an Afghan Kush, and then mix it in the grinder??

yes

 

[budnoob3]

Personally I’d never go by what the various sources say about a strains mold resistance. I mentioned KK from personal experience. I agree it’s correct to seek pine terpenes as those have a tendency to be more resistant but also happen to believe it’s more about managing the environment and monitoring closely in flower. I’m organic grower and used citric acid based spray remedies successfully for all but 3 runs in 16 years. I also used proper air flow and ventilation solutions. Even outdoors I’d use large fans and appropriate levels of defoliation to avoid problems. Bringing things into garage or shed at night, or a green house to help avoid problems. The key is that the healthier the plants are and the better the environment is managed the lesser the chance is of having problems. I failed at that for 6 of my girls but at least caught early enough and far along enough to salvage most at a decent maturity level albeit not ideal.

 

[cbdhemp808]

If you want a mold resistant kush check out kosher kush, never ever had a problem with it in 16 years including this year when all my other crops got hit.

The multiple terpene profiles I've seen for Kosher Kush don't meet the profile for bud rot resistance, but that's not to say there aren't phenos floating around out there for some seed lines that might be bud rot resistant.

One that looks promising is Banana Kush. Possibly also Critical Kush.

Best I've seen is Afghan Kush and Northern Lights #5 (descended from Afghan Kush).

 

[budnoob3]

Exactly, that’s why I don’t rely on profiles. I have grown KK in MN, CT, NC and FL over the last 16 years admittedly mostly in MN and CT with no mold or mildew issues. Same goes for Blue Dream. Blue dream I use for daytime concentrate and KK for night. One of the reasons for that is how easy they have proven to be and how effective as meds for me. I can’t say enough about KK even though yields are slightly lower the quality has never failed me, even the hermaphrodite run I had proved to rival many of the pure sens runs of others. As for BD, I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve never been able to beat the quality, ease and yield with any alternative for my daytime remedy. I’m running buddhas sister next run as a complement to my night time because I loved it when I tried it and finally found some seeds to test…

 

[cbdhemp808]

Personally I’d never go by what the various sources say about a strains mold resistance. I mentioned KK from personal experience. I agree it’s correct to seek pine terpenes as those have a tendency to be more resistant but also happen to believe it’s more about managing the environment and monitoring closely in flower. I’m organic grower and used citric acid based spray remedies successfully for all but 3 runs in 16 years. I also used proper air flow and ventilation solutions. Even outdoors I’d use large fans and appropriate levels of defoliation to avoid problems. Bringing things into garage or shed at night, or a green house to help avoid problems. The key is that the healthier the plants are and the better the environment is managed the lesser the chance is of having problems. I failed at that for 6 of my girls but at least caught early enough and far along enough to salvage most at a decent maturity level albeit not ideal.

I had a similar debate about this with another 420 member recently. I'm in an extreme bud rot and leaf mold zone here in tropical Hawaii, growing outdoors in greenhouses that have either screen wall or no wall, so plenty of ventilation. The environment is warm, wet, and humid year round. There's tons of fungus and mold spores in the air. I prune my plants for air flow in late veg / early flower. I have grown sativa, indica, 50/50, CBD, and CBG, and have noticed some plants are naturally resistant, while others are not. So I made the choice to look for the naturally resistant ones, and I found a pheno of a 50/50 that's 100% bud rot resistant, and that's Humboldt Seed Company's HI-BISCUS. There are many sativas that are naturally bud rot resistant. It's much more difficult to find the indica-dominant ones.

So, in my location it's critical to find the phenos with high terpinolene and/or ocimene, and the accompanying pine terpenes, and so that's what I'm doing in my "quest", looking for sativas, indicas, 50/50, and type III CBDs. And I've looked at a great many terpene profiles—lab test results showing total terpenes and individual percentages of the terpenes.

 

[cbdhemp808]

Exactly, that’s why I don’t rely on profiles. I have grown KK in MN, CT, NC and FL over the last 16 years admittedly mostly in MN and CT with no mold or mildew issues. Same goes for Blue Dream. Blue dream I use for daytime concentrate and KK for night. One of the reasons for that is how easy they have proven to be and how effective as meds for me. I can’t say enough about KK even though yields are slightly lower the quality has never failed me, even the hermaphrodite run I had proved to rival many of the pure sens runs of others. As for BD, I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve never been able to beat the quality, ease and yield with any alternative for my daytime remedy. I’m running buddhas sister next run as a complement to my night time because I loved it when I tried it and finally found some seeds to test…

Yeah, we can definitely rely on the profiles, but growing any particular breeder's seed line of a particular strain is no guarantee of anything. We need to find out what are the known phenos of the strain, and then have a look at the terpene profiles for those phenos. Then we can acquire the seed from a good source and look for the phenos.

For any given modern sativa/indica hybrid, from a stable seed line, there will be at least 2 known phenos. There can be up to 5 or 7, maybe more. You'll see sativa and indica phenos from the same seed line. Sometimes you'll see balanced 50/50 phenos. Each will have it's terpene profile, which is like a fingerprint.

 

[budnoob3]

I’d love to trade a KK with a HB so you could see for yourself. I’d be willing to bet you’d be pleasantly surprised. HI is more extreme for sure but I’m confident if I could do well in FL and NC you wouldn’t have any issues with a little more attention to RH and airflow.

 

[cbdhemp808]

I’d love to trade a KK with a HB so you could see for yourself. I’d be willing to bet you’d be pleasantly surprised. HI is more extreme for sure but I’m confident if I could do well in FL and NC you wouldn’t have any issues with a little more attention to RH and airflow.

Believe me, there's no such thing in my grow as more attention to RH and airflow... outdoor greenhouses with no environmental controls (open walls)... nature rules over all. I'm off-grid, growing on sunshine and rainwater.

I would love to see a terpene profile of your Kosher Kush flower. Are you cloning? Are you working with one pheno of that?

I'll agree with you on one thing at least... the health of the plant is super important going into harvest time. When I switched from 5/7 gal pots to 10 gal, there was a major different in plant health, and also reduced vulnerability to bud rot. Now I have switched to SIP buckets... trying them out.