How To Make Concentrated Cannabis Oil

[Dave Groomer]

When you're ready to make your oil in the Magical Butter Machine let me know. I have a recipe that works great making good RSO oil. Just involves a 'quick wash' before the process starts. Its easy and makes excellent oil. Other recipes I've seen not so much as it sets in the solvent too long and draws out way to much unwanteds. Simply pour in the filtered carrier/extracts, press the 190 temp button, press the 'oil' button and 1 hour later pour in to a stainless steel measuring cup and do your decarboxylation process. Hope this helps.

Motoco,

I am hoping to try my RSO with the MB2 after my next harvest. You said you had a good recipe. Is this it, or is there more?

Thanks.

 

[420 Motoco]

I was going thru this post again to try out the raw honey/green tea combination but I have one small doubt..
you mentioned ".....raw honey mixed with warm green tea Four healthy tablespoons to about 10 ounces of green tea"
Do you mean we take 4 tblspoon to 10 ounces of lose green tea (leaves)to prepare the green tea and then mixed whatever amount with honey or do you mean, after the green tea has been prepared take 4 tblspoon to 10 ounces of just made green tea and mixed with honey?
Sorry, I know this sounds like stupid question but I was a little confused.

Yes Sir, make the green tea first, pour ten ounces into a cup and then mix four tablespoons of honey thoroughly. Not a stupid question Brother, you want to make sure. Never a good place for tumors HighHope, you have your work cut out for you. Your Mother only has a couple of options here Brother. One; she has to eat for nutrients even with severe pain or she will have to have intravenous feeding which in our experience just doesn't give them enough nutrients/calories. We will ask the Dr. today also (we already have but he was getting more opinions also). Mo will call him today as I have to work making meds today. Are you home yet? Will get back as soon as we find more out. Hang in there HighHope.

 

[420 Motoco]

Motoco,

I am hoping to try my RSO with the MB2 after my next harvest. You said you had a good recipe. Is this it, or is there more?

Thanks.

Hi supergroomer,
This is it. Freeze the flowers for 24 hours and get your carrier down to zero f (same with the flower temp wise). Do your quick wash as posted in the this oil tutorial on page 1. After it is processed through the filters simply pour into the MBM as mentioned above. Keep in mind because the MBM has a cut off switch you will have a little more carrier left over than normal, no big deal, you will just need a bigger SS measuring cup. To make sure your cup is big enough for the decarboxylation process take your MBM and fill it up to the end of the cut off switch (the rod hanging down) with water. When the water touches the bottom of the rod pour it into a measuring cup to make sure you have enough room. Also to get all the oil out (or most) of the MBM take a couple of cap full of your carrier, pour in and mix with a small silicone spatula to get the leftovers out and then pour that into the cup also. If you need 2 cups no problem.

Cheers

 

[Dave Groomer]

Hi supergroomer,
This is it. Freeze the flowers for 24 hours and get your carrier down to zero f (same with the flower temp wise). Do your quick wash as posted in the this oil tutorial on page 1. After it is processed through the filters simply pour into the MBM as mentioned above. Keep in mind because the MBM has a cut off switch you will have a little more carrier left over than normal, no big deal, you will just need a bigger SS measuring cup. To make sure your cup is big enough for the decarboxylation process take your MBM and fill it up to the end of the cut off switch (the rod hanging down) with water. When the water touches the bottom of the rod pour it into a measuring cup to make sure you have enough room. Also to get all the oil out (or most) of the MBM take a couple of cap full of your carrier, pour in and mix with a small silicone spatula to get the leftovers out and then pour that into the cup also. If you need 2 cups no problem.

Cheers

Can I use fresh cut or do I need to let it cure first?

 

[HighHope]

Yes Sir, make the green tea first, pour ten ounces into a cup and then mix four tablespoons of honey thoroughly. Not a stupid question Brother, you want to make sure. Never a good place for tumors HighHope, you have your work cut out for you. Your Mother only has a couple of options here Brother. One; she has to eat for nutrients even with severe pain or she will have to have intravenous feeding which in our experience just doesn't give them enough nutrients/calories. We will ask the Dr. today also (we already have but he was getting more opinions also). Mo will call him today as I have to work making meds today. Are you home yet? Will get back as soon as we find more out. Hang in there HighHope.

She doesn't have a tube. Doctors there didn't prescribe it. They said she is too weak to have that.
Her weight has recently been dropped to 43Kgs which is alarming.
I'm still here and leaving tomorrow. Can you please check with your doc friend if he suggest anything that I can take from here that might help her increase her weight.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Hey Motoco,
just a thought here. To make things easier on you and a lot less confusing to members, maybe this thread could be closed for any future questions/comments with a link on the last post here directing people to the other How to Dose Correctly thread?

 

[420 Motoco]

Hey Motoco,
just a thought here. To make things easier on you and a lot less confusing to members, maybe this thread could be closed for any future questions/comments with a link on the last post here directing people to the other How to Dose Correctly thread?

I agree Cannafan, I've mentioned this also. A lot of medical questions are in the 'big' making the oil thread also. I've made mention about mixing the how to oil and the dosing tutorial but came to realize when folks have major ailments their anxiety levels are off the charts, are in a huge forum with many different topics. Then on the other hand the crew in the back room are totally overwhelmed with a huge workload. So we do the best we can with what we have. The bottom line is people are getting help as these issue can be better organized. I think a Q&A forum on medical issues would be great instead of breaking them all down into separate disorders, no matter what the ailment is. That would make it easier for other members to direct folks coming in were to go simply by them posting a link to the Q&A. The med threads certainly have grown and it is going to get much larger as word gets out. We have some really smart people learning the oil and hopefully they will have some time to help on the forums also. I wish I had an 'edit' choice all the time. Many times I have to cover so much I make errors and have no time to review at that particular time. I see them when I do have time to review but cannot make the edit. Sure I could send a request to the mods but it's not like they don't have enough to do. Yes, the error has been made but if I had that feature I could correct those for future readers. Not talking about the 'sticky' threads. Those have to pass legalities. Good thinking though Cannafan, the more brains we have the more solutions we can come up with. Our journey continues Oh, I amazed how fast I can type now, hahaha.

 

[420 Motoco]

She doesn't have a tube. Doctors there didn't prescribe it. They said she is too weak to have that.
Her weight has recently been dropped to 43Kgs which is alarming.
I'm still here and leaving tomorrow. Can you please check with your doc friend if he suggest anything that I can take from here that might help her increase her weight.

Sure will Brother! He has been out of town since this past weekend and returning tonight and we will see him in the morning at 11:00 a.m. As soon as we get any infor I'll let you know. We understand the severity. Its a 'fight' for life! Have a safe flight.

 

[420 Motoco]

Can I use fresh cut or do I need to let it cure first?

Its needs to cure first, clean snap of the stem. Then when the stem snaps, I lay the flowers on a large cookie sheet and cover with a paper towel and let it air dry for a few more hours to make sure. If your flowers have too much moisture in it and you freeze the flowers it won't wreck your flowers, it just adds water that freezes so when you process the oil it pulls more chlorophyll and waxes out. Hence the dryer the better and faster decarb also.

 

[Dave Groomer]

Its needs to cure first, clean snap of the stem. Then when the stem snaps, I lay the flowers on a large cookie sheet and cover with a paper towel and let it air dry for a few more hours to make sure. If your flowers have too much moisture in it and you freeze the flowers it won't wreck your flowers, it just adds water that freezes so when you process the oil it pulls more chlorophyll and waxes out. Hence the dryer the better and faster decarb also.

Got it. Thanks.

 

[HighHope]

Sure will Brother! He has been out of town since this past weekend and returning tonight and we will see him in the morning at 11:00 a.m. As soon as we get any infor I'll let you know. Even if its a text. We understand the severity. Its a 'fight' for life! Have a safe flight.

Thanks Motoco.
One more thing I want to add here is she is getting lot of phlegm(mucus) when she is coughing. We had the chest x-ray done and everything looks clean so we are not sure where is this mucus coming from. That is also bugging her when she eats anything.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Thanks Motoco.
One more thing I want to add here is she is getting lot of phlegm(mucus) when she is coughing. We had the chest x-ray done and everything looks clean so we are not sure where is this mucus coming from. That is also bugging her when she eats anything.

The more I think about this, the more it bothers me. I just can't believe they won't consider a nutrition drip of some kind. She's suffering malnutrition and dehydration for sure. When I was suffering that last year they were threatening a nutrition bag for me that bypasses the GI tract and goes straight to the bloodstream if I didn't start getting something in my body in the way of nutrition and water. I started onto whole milk and ice cream chocolate shakes with double scoops of protein powder in them, and double doses of chocolate syrup. It's the only that kept me going. I realize that's too much sugar, but I felt it was the lesser of two evils in my case.

I'm sorry folks, I just can't stand to think of people suffering.
I sure hope you can get something going for her HighHope!

 

[SmokesDaKush]

Thanks for the clarification Brother! Yes, you know how I think and yes I was thinking, lol. LOL @ struggling with your bill...hell how could you even think about a bill, lmao. Yes, they like their money, heh. Thanks again for the clarification, I feel better Brother! If you're not sleeping quite as well add an extra booster before you actually dose the final nighttime. Keep experimenting until you find your happy spot Brother! Exercise is key Brother! Keep it up.

Best to you!

My actual night time dose begins at about 6-7pm with about two more full doses afterwards with the last being at about 10:30pm. I'm like a tank I guess, I'm really hard to put down. I go through phases where I will be up for days straight followed by days straight of sleeping. Been a little while but it happens. I've also been quite active since the warmer weather, I've already added some more muscle definition from all that other work I mentioned.

Also on the food intake side of things for HighHope, would the water from inside of a coconut be of help if she can swallow it down, it's very nutritional.

 

[420 Motoco]

Thanks Motoco.
One more thing I want to add here is she is getting lot of phlegm(mucus) when she is coughing. We had the chest x-ray done and everything looks clean so we are not sure where is this mucus coming from. That is also bugging her when she eats anything.

Getting ready to leave for work soon but want to reply to the mucus issue. Your Mother is drinking water too fast to get it past her tumor issues in her mouth and throat. What is happening she is not breaking up the mucus in her throat (dry mouth). She needs to almost 'sip' her water so it will break up the mucus. Also a worthy mention; a virus (unusual flu)has been going around in the States and abroad. It has the exact issues. Mucus in the throat, super irritated throat and a long lasting cough following. Many end up with pneumonia if they do not break up the mucus. Still will add this to the list to ask the Dr. The best for you and your family HighHope!

@ Cannafan, the Dr.s have written her off. I agree, their are options but as mentioned, the Dr.s have no hope for her. This is where I have the issues. HighHope has no access to what he needs to help his mother, hopefully that will change when he gets back. The Gov.s of these (most) countries make all the components extremely hard to get to keep it this way. Big Pharmas keep it this way. Dr.s are taking notice of the concentrated oil slowly. Many of the ones who are aware are thinking why they wanted to be a Dr. and that is to help people. It is all coming to a slow head. So sad!

 

[420 Motoco]

HighHope,

Got the info from the Doctor. First and foremost he cannot believe your Mother doesn't have a stomach feeding tube! This is in lure of a feed tube down the throat & esophagus. Also you can put anything in the feed tube (stomach). Water, any type of foods (pureed), pretty much anything she needs for nutrition to build her strength back up. The mucus in your Mother's throat is from dehydration. He stated as I mentioned about slow sips to break up the mucus in her throat. Also, once that is broke up she can get all of her hydration as well as food through the stomach feed tube. I ask why they didn't mention that and he simply stated because the Dr.s have written her off. He also stated the stomach feed tube should be requested for 'quality of life'. The Dr. made it a point; it is important to add a digestive enzyme, preferable powder called Absorbaid (comes with instructions) . Get that going and you can start nursing her strength back. You cannot go charging in with the oil, it has to be baby steps while she builds up her immune system. If we don't follow a strict protocol she will get nausea and throw up and that is the worst thing for her location of tumors. For nausea use Bileox (way the Dr. spelled it). To clarify, this is different than a drip system, its a feed tube that just bypasses the throat, esophagus, goes directly into the stomach. The Dr. didn't specify what foods are best so I would 'google' 'what foods are best to build up a weak body. The Dr. agreed the most important thing right now is to build up your Mother's strength as a priority. Again check with me on the dosing regimen. Certainly will help bypassing the throat and relieve a lot of pain. Hope this helps.

@ Cannafan; good info on the nutrition! On the drip method we watched two people within two weeks of each other (one stomach removed and one esophagus/partial removed and they both passed basically from starvation). I still cannot believe they didn't give HighHopes Mother some options. It appalled the Dr. as he is from HighHopes country. This is one compassionate Dr., we love this man. Not saying others are not, they are, but western medicine/pharma's has them on lockdown. The word is getting out though.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Motoco, I feel so much better. At least there's an option to get that poor woman some nutrition and hydration without going through so much pain and suffering!
Yes, I understand the difference on the feeding tube and drip system. Good for the Doc you spoke to!! He has my highest admiration, as well as you.
I sure hope this helps and gives HighHope something to work with.



Edit: Just to clarify why the drip system was the option for me, my stomach was not processing food correctly. Even when I could get food in there, it was giving me very little benefit if any at all. Long story, won't go into it.
We did not know about the cancer then, so I wasn't as concerned about the high amount of sugar in those shakes at that point.

 

[420 Motoco]

Motoco, I feel so much better. At least there's an option to get that poor woman some nutrition and hydration without going through so much pain and suffering!
Yes, I understand the difference on the feeding tube and drip system. Good for the Doc you spoke to!! He has my highest admiration, as well as you.
I sure hope this helps and gives HighHope something to work with.

Totally concur Canna! Sometimes you just have to shake your head and wonder! Thank you for the kind words and I'll make sure to tell the Dr. also. Yep, a converted oilhead . This is a common denominator for oilheads, admiration for each other, so back at ya! We might have some different avenues and techniques but we need them. Nobody knows everything to be sure, but nothing can stop a group of oilheads from coming up with solutions, right?

HighHopes, Mo and I have been working on things for months now. We have been stressing over his Mother for so long we figured there has to be a reason she is still alive. She is in God's hands now and hope she has enough energy and time left to get through this last hurdle. You know us, we will never give up. There is a reason for this, we have seen what seemed impossible on the concentrate from no hope to living healthy again. Even if it is too late their quality of life can be so much improved as well as their family members. HighHopes is an example of what a young human being should be. If the world had more of him or like it would be an awesome place to be. He loves his own family the same way, they are blessed. Prayers your way Brother! We love you!

Best to all today!

 

[HighHope]

HighHope,

Got the info from the Doctor. First and foremost he cannot believe your Mother doesn't have a stomach feeding tube! This is in lure of a feed tube down the throat & esophagus. Also you can put anything in the feed tube (stomach). Water, any type of foods (pureed), pretty much anything she needs for nutrition to build her strength back up. The mucus in your Mother's throat is from dehydration. He stated as I mentioned about slow sips to break up the mucus in her throat. Also, once that is broke up she can get all of her hydration as well as food through the stomach feed tube. I ask why they didn't mention that and he simply stated because the Dr.s have written her off. He also stated the stomach feed tube should be requested for 'quality of life'. The Dr. made it a point; it is important to add a digestive enzyme, preferable powder called Absorbaid (comes with instructions) . Get that going and you can start nursing her strength back. Also make sure you 'skype' Mo and I for special dosing instructions also. You cannot go charging in with the oil, it has to be baby steps while she builds up her immune system. If we don't follow a strict protocol she will get nausea and throw up and that is the worst thing for her location of tumors. For nausea use Bileox (way the Dr. spelled it). To clarify, this is different than a drip system, its a feed tube that just bypasses the throat, esophagus, goes directly into the stomach. The Dr. didn't specify what foods are best so I would 'google' 'what foods are best to build up a weak body. The Dr. agreed the most important thing right now is to build up your Mother's strength as a priority. Again check with me on the dosing regimen. Certainly will help bypassing the throat and relieve a lot of pain. Hope this helps.

@ Cannafan; good info on the nutrition! On the drip method we watched two people within two weeks of each other (one stomach removed and one esophagus/partial removed and they both passed basically from starvation). I still cannot believe they didn't give HighHopes Mother some options. It appalled the Dr. as he is from HighHopes country. This is one compassionate Dr., we love this man. Not saying others are not, they are, but western medicine/pharma's has them on lockdown. The word is getting out though.

Thank you so much Motoco for the detailed instructions and pls pass on my thanks to the Dr. I'm still in that jetlag mode but I'll make sure I go through each point twice just to make sure I understand it correctly.
Meanwhile, I asked my brother (who lives with my mom) as to why Dr . prescribed against feeding tube, he said the Dr says in order to put feeding tube in her stomach they have to first insert the tube from her mouth that goes thru her intestine to tell the doctors as to where exactly they have to put the feeding tube in the stomach, thereafter the tube from her mouth can be removed but the issue they said here is they cannot insert tube from her mouth as there is hardly any space left for it. Other, issue is the fear of infection that the wound from the feeding tube in her stomach may not heal and spread coz of not enough nutritions.
I have started my search for Absorbaid though I'm not sure I'll be able to get it in this part of the world.

 

[Dave Groomer]

I have a couple of questions about the decarb process. One, when I make anything in my MB2 I put my cannabis is a covered dutch oven @ 250 for 1/2 hour. Do I need to do this for oil?

My second question, is do I need to do the olive oil step, or can I raise the temp slowly in a non stick sauce pan on the induction top? Wouldn't that serve the same purpose or am I missing something?

 

[SAMtheAPman]

Thanks for the initial instructions on page 1 (post 1) Motoco. Just went through the process with no real problems and came out with almost 4g of oil from 30g Vanilla Kush.

Only thing I'll need to change is my roaster oven to a rice cooker (was hoping to get away with it but it's too slow), and a heavier ss measuring cup (mine floated on the oil).

With the 250 deg max temp of the oil - this is the cannabis oil temp yes? Not the vegetable oil temp?

As this was the first time I'd done this process, after the initial alcohol washes I was thinking "there's no way I'm going to get 3-4g of oil out of this"; just didn't look like it would be in there (but it was).

Thanks again. Will let you know how the tacking process goes over the next few days.