How To Make Concentrated Cannabis Oil

[420 Motoco]

Hey Smokes, good day Brother. I would suggest not stopping any oil right now but that is your call. You are just now getting o.k. sleep. Eight hours is optimum. Enjoy it Smokes, try for 7 hours a night. You still have a lot of catching up to do to strengthen you autoimmune and sleep accelerates the healing. Everything else the oil offers, I would hold off stopping. Yes, try your nighttime oil with no CBD and check out the difference. You have enough in the daytime. Mo and I bank on our daytime and nighttime regimen. Could we do it? Easily! Do we want to? No way! Just too many benifits to pass up for us. Check this out Smokes; Mo reads a lot. She needs to get her glasses adjust and also the frames are getting gnarly and wearing out. Dime to a dollar when she gets her eyes checked her vision has improved and personally I think quite a bit. Then again all of our senses have improved. Pretty sure we can smell a ant turd .

We all slip Brother, just figure its part of our learning curve in life. We get back up and keep improving ourselves and move on. Most is from man made meds that put us in a funk and we slip downward and never realize sometimes how far we let ourselves go and we don't see it in ourselves, but others do. Bottom line Brother your a good man! We think you have came a long ways. Keep going Brother as we grind our way through life.

Gotta run now, have to order some supplies, etc. and finish some errands we couldn't do over the weekend as we had a rash of locals needing some consultation. We are getting much more organized now and things are getting easier? lol, NOT!

No news reporter? LOL, I knew that would get your attention. Best to your and the Wife Brother!

RE #1656 - Yes, sleep has been really difficult for me. I've struggled with insomnia for better then twenty years, the last ten or so have probably been the worst. Running on a average of a few hours nightly sleep for that long, yes it physically/mentally brings you down. I've mentioned to you these past few weeks I have been sleeping better with at least 6 hours, sometimes better. I genuinely think I have had more sleep in these few weeks then potentially a few months. I feel so much better in the morning when I sleep through. I am properly placed to tackle what stupids are thrown at me through the day. I do need to lay off the concentrates again though and I have been really banking on them for night. I still tack night time boosters before dinner (sometimes during the day) and from there on out my night time is my main dose. One thing I wanted to ask you and I guess I will just ask here now, should I still maintain a 2:1 blend on my Indica or start cutting out those extra CBD's? I know you said leave the daytime blend alone.

I didn't realize I was being difficult in any form. I know my passiveness and possibly the RSO digesting protocol let me get to a really bad place before I even reached out to you (I don't think I could reach then), but again that's just me. I try to do everything by myself to the best of my extent, often this means I suffer as a result. LOL, it makes me think of a shirt my wife bought me, it says "I'm not trying to be difficult, It just comes naturally."! Also just as a fair warning, I tend to pull in the full picture in situations rather then blinding myself, sometimes this can be mistaken for negative thinking but I assure you it is not. I keep a positive mindset for the most part, I slip but always regain traction. Thanks for being there for me to reach out too as well as for all the others that have or will reach out!

News reporter, lol too much drama for me! I see drama I change the channel, even here on the threads, no thank you! I was subtly throwing a thought fsc's way as she has for me prior, that was all. Have a great day Brother!

Cajun, all the best man!

 

[420 Motoco]

Hi Sam, have some errands to do but will respond when I get back. Thanks

 

[HighHope]

Hello Everyone,
I know this may be a little off topic but can anyone suggest any thing for my mother to overcome her weakness. She is suffering from carcinoma (throat tumor) and can hardly eat or drink anything(all fluid form). She has gone weak and getting weaker everyday. While we are working on getting her a potent oil we want to make sure she doesn't get too weak(though she already is) to have any affect of the oil.
Please let me know if there is any thread dedicated to this topic. I'll post my question there as well.
Any help would be highly appreciated

 

[SmokesDaKush]

Hey Smokes, good day Brother. I would suggest not stopping any oil right now but that is your call. You are just now getting o.k. sleep. Eight hours is optimum. Enjoy it Smokes, try for 7 hours a night. You still have a lot of catching up to do to strengthen you autoimmune and sleep accelerates the healing. Everything else the oil offers, I would hold off stopping. Yes, try your nighttime oil with no CBD and check out the difference. You have enough in the daytime. Mo and I bank on our daytime and nighttime regimen. Could we do it? Easily! Do we want to? No way! Just too many benifits to pass up for us. Check this out Smokes; Mo reads a lot. She needs to get her glasses adjust and also the frames are getting gnarly and wearing out. Dime to a dollar when she gets her eyes checked her vision has improved and personally I think quite a bit. Then again all of our senses have improved. Pretty sure we can smell a ant turd .

We all slip Brother, just figure its part of our learning curve in life. We get back up and keep improving ourselves and move on. Most is from man made meds that put us in a funk and we slip downward and never realize sometimes how far we let ourselves go and we don't see it in ourselves, but others do. Bottom line Brother your a good man! We think you have came a long ways. Keep going Brother as we grind our way through life.

Gotta run now, have to order some supplies, etc. and finish some errands we couldn't do over the weekend as we had a rash of locals needing some consultation. We are getting much more organized now and things are getting easier? lol, NOT!

No news reporter? LOL, I knew that would get your attention. Best to your and the Wife Brother!

I saw your response and wanted to jump on quick to make sure I clarified this. When I said I needed to lay off the concentrates, I meant the smoking/vaping of concentrates. It has been a great help lately with the sleep in addition to tacking as we've communicated. My tolerance is starting to climb and it's not winding me down as effective as before, plus the amount I need blah blah, don't want to go down that path again. I am waking several times, although still able to get back to sleep just not sleeping through the night as previously mentioned. I have no plans to stop tacking the oil! Just wanted to make sure we where clear on this. I didn't want it to weigh on you during your day either, just in case there was some confusion.

Abandoning the medical system some years ago was probably the best thing I did personally to help my attitude. I feel I got so much worst from the barrage of meds, needles, dye and radiation. I was just an ant turd on the couch. Lol, there where times I thought they did something to me because I was struggling with my bill. Point is, a funk I was in indeed! LOL Enjoy your day as well!

 

[420 Motoco]

Hello Everyone,
I know this may be a little off topic but can anyone suggest any thing for my mother to overcome her weakness. She is suffering from carcinoma (throat tumor) and can hardly eat or drink anything(all fluid form). She has gone weak and getting weaker everyday. While we are working on getting her a potent oil we want to make sure she doesn't get too weak(though she already is) to have any affect of the oil.
Please let me know if there is any thread dedicated to this topic. I'll post my question there as well.
Any help would be highly appreciated

She is getting weaker from lack of nutrition and lack of water. With a throat tumor it is making it harder. Does she have a feed tube now?Liquid nourishment simply cannot sustain the proper nutrients as it simply passes through the digestive system to fast. She is going to have to take the solids and make it like baby food. Not a liquid and not a solid so it will pass the tumor more easily without irritating it more. She has to do this even in her weakened state to build up her immune system even if she doesn't feel like it. Its a fight for her life now and the choices become slimmer and right now nutrition/hydration is at the forefront until you can get your meds processed. Hopefully someone can add to this but she has to get her strength back or the oil will make her nauseous because it requires water and food. Sorry you had to go through all this because of laws to save your mother. It truly 'sucks'!

 

[420 Motoco]

Thanks Motoco. Things are ok here. I have finally gotten all of the bits and pieces together that I need to make the oil and hope to do this in the next few days. Getting +90% alcohol was difficult and I didn't really want to use iso, which was easy to find.

But it's all here now and I feel confident about my first run. Will let you know how it goes.

In the meantime, we have been trying to does with the lowest setting on the vaporizer, but it can still be too euphoric for my GF. If she does get stoned, she can feel all of her symptoms more... we think it may be a herximer reaction. Made an alcohol tincture as well but have the same problem with her getting stoned.

Looking forward to trying out the tacking.

Thanks again.

Great! Its coming together. Should of let me know on the carrier Brother, things change daily in this industry.

Best!

 

[420 Motoco]

I saw your response and wanted to jump on quick to make sure I clarified this. When I said I needed to lay off the concentrates, I meant the smoking/vaping of concentrates. It has been a great help lately with the sleep in addition to tacking as we've communicated. My tolerance is starting to climb and it's not winding me down as effective as before, plus the amount I need blah blah, don't want to go down that path again. I am waking several times, although still able to get back to sleep just not sleeping through the night as previously mentioned. I have no plans to stop tacking the oil! Just wanted to make sure we where clear on this. I didn't want it to weigh on you during your day either, just in case there was some confusion.

Abandoning the medical system some years ago was probably the best thing I did personally to help my attitude. I feel I got so much worst from the barrage of meds, needles, dye and radiation. I was just an ant turd on the couch. Lol, there where times I thought they did something to me because I was struggling with my bill. Point is, a funk I was in indeed! LOL Enjoy your day as well!

Thanks for the clarification Brother! Yes, you know how I think and yes I was thinking, lol. LOL @ struggling with your bill...hell how could you even think about a bill, lmao. Yes, they like their money, heh. Thanks again for the clarification, I feel better Brother! If you're not sleeping quite as well add an extra booster before you actually dose the final nighttime. Keep experimenting until you find your happy spot Brother! Exercise is key Brother! Keep it up.

Best to you!

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Motoco said:

Pretty sure we can smell a ant turd .

Now that was MY gut buster today. I needed that .


HI Smokey! Glad you're getting back to some good zzzzz's. The body needs it.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

She is getting weaker from lack of nutrition and lack of water. With a throat tumor it is making it harder. Does she have a feed tube now?Liquid nourishment simply cannot sustain the proper nutrients as it simply passes through the digestive system to fast. She is going to have to take the solids and make it like baby food. Not a liquid and not a solid so it will pass the tumor more easily without irritating it more. She has to do this even in her weakened state to build up her immune system even if she doesn't feel like it. Its a fight for her life now and the choices become slimmer and right now nutrition/hydration is at the forefront until you can get your meds processed. Hopefully someone can add to this but she has to get her strength back or the oil will make her nauseous because it requires water and food. Sorry you had to go through all this because of laws to save your mother. It truly 'sucks'!

When my former husband had Leukemia, he suffered mouth sores and throat sores from the Chemotherapy and other drugs. He was not eating because it hurt too much. A nurse suggested we get him some peaches in heavy syrup. It worked like a charm on him. Soothed the sores and he was able to get some real food in him after a couple of days.
It has to be heavy syrup, that's the soothing stuff.
Just throwing that in there to see if it helps.
I would ask the docs to see if it's okay to consume for her though.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Motoco said:

She is going to have to take the solids and make it like baby food. Not a liquid and not a solid so it will pass the tumor more easily without irritating it more.

Just wanted to mention here, I'm ashamed....but I tricked my former spouse into eating a few times by buying actual baby food and transferring it to bowls making him think I had used the food processor. ;-) Baby food has some great nutrients in it. It's at least a start until more solid foods can be downed. I also sometimes added a tsp. of nonfat dried milk to it.

 

[SAMtheAPman]

Great! Its coming together. Should of let me know on the carrier Brother, things change daily in this industry.

Best!

Cheers Motoco. I'll see how the tacking goes'

Are you saying that there are other carriers apart from food grade ethanol that are suitable for making the oil with? I know there are lots of solvents people use, but is ethanol still at the top of the list?

 

[420 Motoco]

Cheers Motoco. I'll see how the tacking goes.

Are you saying that there are other carriers apart from food grade ethanol that are suitable for making the oil with? I know there are lots of solvents people use, but is ethanol still at the top of the list?

I use 100% Organic Corn Ethyl Alcohol. Its at the top of my list for cannabis concentrated oil as it is perfect for gum absorption. Didn't know exactly what type you have? For future references though if you want the link let me know and I'll shoot you a PM. What I meant by things changing daily one place I wanted to purchase it at wouldn't ship to Cali even though it bordered our state. Others have mentioned also they wouldn't ship to their state. Then one day surfing the web for others this place just opened their doors.

 

[420 Motoco]

Here is an example Cannafan where you have to do something that is not good for tumors to get nutrients through the throat. Unless the heavy syrup is sugar free. Without nutrition and water your body dies anyway. You have to focus on the major problem first even when large tumors are present in her throat. Sometimes you simply have to drop one major problem to solve another one. Kind of pisses me off people have to suffer through this when it should've never been this far advanced anyway. I like the baby food trick, lol. Worst thing older people want to hear is baby food and diapers. I totaling spaced this also, raw honey mixed with warm green tea Four healthy tablespoons to about 10 ounces of green tea. Drink and then eat baby food/pureed food. Powdered milk and pea's remind me of some of the food I chowed down in the service, lol.

 

[SAMtheAPman]

Understood.

I'm not is the US and any food grade ethanol over 40% is strictly regulated. There is a 95% food grade spirit that can be purchased over the counter at the bottle shop, but it costs $60 per half liter (one pint).

I had to ask a 'shiner to make up a batch of 93% alcohol for me. Have just ordered a still set up for future requirements, and it's supposed to turn out 96% alcohol. I wont do it with this first batch, but I've got to look into how to use the still to reclaim the alcohol when evaporating off the oil.

Fun times ahead....

 

[420 Motoco]

Wow, some of the government regulations boggle my mind. Ninety Three is 1% better than Everclear and 96% matches Spirytus. Your good to go Brother! The decarboxylation process will take a tad longer dissipating the water but no biggie. Actually it will be fun times ahead because when you're familiar learning everything you will be self contained mostly and you will know your finished product is a quality med. That is a piece of mind you will become to love. Just let us know how things are going and if you need anything answered our pool of 'oilheads' will be glad to help you out. Sounds like you're up to speed on things. Take care!

 

[420 Motoco]

This thread is the 'baby' thread? Here is the updated version Cannabis Oil Dosing Tutorial: Tacking Method Works great!

 

[SAMtheAPman]

Great, thanks!

 

[HighHope]

Thank you everyone for sharing the tips & tricks.
I'll certainly try the baby food but the issue is she has tumor on her tongue as well(spread on to her tongue from throat) so it becomes really very hard for her to swallow anything as it needs your tongue to push food back to your throat to swallow, apart from the pain she has in her tongue, throat;soars and what not.
I think heavy syrup might not work here as we are avoiding giving any sugar or lactose to her, even though she has to have lots of dark honey and stevia mixed with anything(including water) she is having else she gets the burning sensation in her mouth.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Okay Highhope,
the sugar can be a problem (that's why I suggested talking to the doc first) We discovered it was a source of Vitamin A, which helps the immune system. In his case, he needed that too.

Having the tumor up on the tongue is certainly not adding to that poor gals' situation.
I like Motoco's idea on the honey/tea, wish I had thought of that one back then.
My heart goes out to her, and to you for all you are doing to help make her comfortable.

 

[HighHope]

Here is an example Cannafan where you have to do something that is not good for tumors to get nutrients through the throat. Unless the heavy syrup is sugar free. Without nutrition and water your body dies anyway. You have to focus on the major problem first even when large tumors are present in her throat. Sometimes you simply have to drop one major problem to solve another one. Kind of pisses me off people have to suffer through this when it should've never been this far advanced anyway. I like the baby food trick, lol. Worst thing older people want to hear is baby food and diapers. I totaling spaced this also, raw honey mixed with warm green tea Four healthy tablespoons to about 10 ounces of green tea. Drink and then eat baby food/pureed food. Powdered milk and pea's remind me of some of the food I chowed down in the service, lol.

I was going thru this post again to try out the raw honey/green tea combination but I have one small doubt..
you mentioned ".....raw honey mixed with warm green tea Four healthy tablespoons to about 10 ounces of green tea"
Do you mean we take 4 tblspoon to 10 ounces of lose green tea (leaves)to prepare the green tea and then mixed whatever amount with honey or do you mean, after the green tea has been prepared take 4 tblspoon to 10 ounces of just made green tea and mixed with honey?
Sorry, I know this sounds like stupid question but I was a little confused.