Horse's Crawlspace Grow

[GrownManHollr]

Re: Horse's Crawlspace Grow.

Horse - You're looking good there man! I'm interested to see the tent arrangement you've go there now...

Got the HTG mother tent set up for the little children.

It's the only tent I've had, and I've only seen a Secret Jardin in the hydro store, so I have very limited experience... but it seems like a serviceable home. Sets up real easy, if you follow the directions . The frame is sturdy enough to hold 2/ 24" 4 light t5s and a small fan.

The skin is pretty light proof, some small pinholes around stitching. The vent/electrical penetrations don't have sock/drawstring things to seal them, instead they have a small elastic band. They don't seal too well w/ irregular (dryer flex) duct, but it's fine with hard pipe connectors.

The zippers/flaps are a little cumbersome to work, but they do work, and seem like they're just good enough to last a while.

Any way, it was worth the 150 beans in setup time, fits great in the crawlspace, and I don't have to fiddle around getting it lightproof and vented.

Last week I ended up ordering a Growlab tent , 2 4" vortex fans, and a carbon filter from the local grow shop - should have it tomorrow. The space I'm in isn't light tight at all and cooling will be a problem if I just try to seal it. Also HAD to do something about the scent. I enjoy it, but entertaining can be awkward. "That's my new air freshener. It's called Eau De Ganja!"

With the reflector panels, temps in the cage are just under 85° at the canopy.
Is that okay?

The 1000w light is 3' above the canopy, right now. I'm thinking I will lower the light in 6" increments over the next few days until I'm 2' above the canopy. Does that seem right?

At this time, they have OC+ in the bottom of the pot, and at the top on the opposite side of the damnit hole. I'm also feeding 2tsp/gal of FF Grow Big, 8ml Hygrozyme/gal, and 1tsp/gal 29% H2O2. I've been watering every 3 days.

I forgot to Super Thrive them before they hit the big light, arrrgh, so next watering.

Am I doing okay here? Man I would appreciate any critique, advice, tips, or whatever

Thanks

Seems like you've got things well thought out. I'd be careful with that 29% H2O2 - that's the strong stuff!. Munki recently shared a link about H2O2 which seems pretty helpful - CannaStats - H2O2 Uses and Dilutions.

Looks like you're doing great to me man. With folks like the Doc, Setting Sun, and Papa Green (just to name a few) looking over your shoulder, you're gonna be knee deep in clover (or something) before you know it.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Re: Horse's Crawlspace Grow.

They look freakin' gorgeous!

If it was me, I'd stop the H202 unless it's needed for rot. That's highly unlikely.

Also, that's enough FF grow big to feed the plants on it's own. This will keep the OC+ from feeding properly, which means your micro nutes will be sparse. I'd decrease the amount of Grow Big.....or discontinue it altogether.

I haven't used any supplemental base nutes in my hempys.....there's no reason you should have to from what I can see.

On the other hand, your plants look great, so there's much to be said for not fixing it if it ain't broke!

I'm all for stopping anything I don't need to do! Your advice and journal have definitely helped turn these kids into what they are today

About the micro nutes? I thought the Hygrozome helped get what the plants need out of the soup.

I think the watering schedule may be the next thing to fine tune... picking up the buckets is gonna be tough under that screen

Thanks for crawling in!

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Re: Horse's Crawlspace Grow.

Horse - You're looking good there man! I'm interested to see the tent arrangement you've go there now...


Last week I ended up ordering a Growlab tent , 2 4" vortex fans, and a carbon filter from the local grow shop - should have it tomorrow. The space I'm in isn't light tight at all and cooling will be a problem if I just try to seal it. Also HAD to do something about the scent. I enjoy it, but entertaining can be awkward. "That's my new air freshener. It's called Eau De Ganja!"



Seems like you've got things well thought out. I'd be careful with that 29% H2O2 - that's the strong stuff!. Munki recently shared a link about H2O2 which seems pretty helpful - CannaStats - H2O2 Uses and Dilutions.

Looks like you're doing great to me man. With folks like the Doc, Setting Sun, and Papa Green (just to name a few) looking over your shoulder, you're gonna be knee deep in clover (or something) before you know it.

Thanks for that link. Does seem like I've been overdoing the H2O2

The knowledge base here is amazing. Until 3 months ago, I'd have never even considered growing indoors, much less in a crawl space!

I'll get some better pics of the tent for ya later. I'm going to finish watching the soccer game, drive out to a friend's lake for a swim, and get half-baked

Thanks for checkin' in.

 

[Doc Bud]

Re: Horse's Crawlspace Grow.

I'm all for stopping anything I don't need to do! Your advice and journal have definitely helped turn these kids into what they are today

About the micro nutes? I thought the Hygrozome helped get what the plants need out of the soup.

I think the watering schedule may be the next thing to fine tune... picking up the buckets is gonna be tough under that screen

Thanks for crawling in!

The hygrozyme is an enzyme....it basically breaks down waste products into a form that the plant can use as food. You can use it with a light dosage of H202....for root rot. The peroxide kills all the nasties, and then the hygrozyme digests them.

You've already killed the nasties...if there were any, I don't remember...so now you can stop it and just use the hygrozyme at every watering and you shouldn't have a problem again.

OC+ has all the micronutes, in the correct balance. FF grow big lacks in this department.

Furthermore, the OC+ is mostly chelated, which means that the micro's are available to the plant at any pH.

Finally, the OC+ has got a good amount of nitrogen in it already.....I wouldn't add to that with the FF 6-4-4. (or are you using the hydro version?) Either way, that's too much nitrogen!

The OC+ will keep 'em green and happy all through the grow cycle, and healthy leaves and roots mean.......

Healthy buds!

Water less, stop supplemental feedings in the absence of clear deficiencies....and clean your piece. You're gonna need it!

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Here's an OC+ testimony:

last night the wife and I say Paul McCartney in San Francisco. It was an amazing show!

I rolled two joints of Lucky Queen, grown with OC+, harvested and cured for about 3 weeks total. We lit one up, and shared with the nice people next to us....

The kid, who had his own weed and also grew himself, went on and on about how great it tasted and asked if I flushed it, how I grew it, etc.

When I told him I didn't flush, used tap water and OC+ he started tripping out about how it was the best tasting weed, etc. (It's NOT the best tasting weed I've ever had, but it is the best tasting uncured weed I've ever had)

How can that be? I didn't flush or starve the plants?

Well, OC+ releases small, proper doses of nutes, when the plant needs them. The plants are not over/under fed. Consequently, they grow better and taste better.

Give it a try, bro. You'll like it!

 

[GrowingGirls]

I can't tell you how freakin' excited I am that your SCROG is underway.

Mine is going up very soon. I've got 3 days to plan my lighting while I wait for payday. I can't find the 3-bulb thingies I want at Home Depot; I don't want more of the 2-bulb thingies I have now that I hate. It might finally be time to check out Lowe's.

Anyway, back to YOUR grow...I think that SCROG is going to be amazing. Keep up the great work.

 

[lavendar]

wow, this is getting good....i love it when things come togather....everything looks really great....good on ya....lavendar

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Re: Horse's Crawlspace Grow.

The hygrozyme is an enzyme....it basically breaks down waste products into a form that the plant can use as food. You can use it with a light dosage of H202....for root rot. The peroxide kills all the nasties, and then the hygrozyme digests them.

You've already killed the nasties...if there were any, I don't remember...so now you can stop it and just use the hygrozyme at every watering and you shouldn't have a problem again.

OC+ has all the micronutes, in the correct balance. FF grow big lacks in this department.

Furthermore, the OC+ is mostly chelated, which means that the micro's are available to the plant at any pH.

Finally, the OC+ has got a good amount of nitrogen in it already.....I wouldn't add to that with the FF 6-4-4. (or are you using the hydro version?) Either way, that's too much nitrogen!

The OC+ will keep 'em green and happy all through the grow cycle, and healthy leaves and roots mean.......

Healthy buds!

Water less, stop supplemental feedings in the absence of clear deficiencies....and clean your piece. You're gonna need it!

----------------------------------------------------------------
Here's an OC+ testimony:

last night the wife and I say Paul McCartney in San Francisco. It was an amazing show!

I rolled two joints of Lucky Queen, grown with OC+, harvested and cured for about 3 weeks total. We lit one up, and shared with the nice people next to us....

The kid, who had his own weed and also grew himself, went on and on about how great it tasted and asked if I flushed it, how I grew it, etc.

When I told him I didn't flush, used tap water and OC+ he started tripping out about how it was the best tasting weed, etc. (It's NOT the best tasting weed I've ever had, but it is the best tasting uncured weed I've ever had)

How can that be? I didn't flush or starve the plants?

Well, OC+ releases small, proper doses of nutes, when the plant needs them. The plants are not over/under fed. Consequently, they grow better and taste better.

Give it a try, bro. You'll like it!

I like it, KISS

As far as cleaning the place, no freakin' way, embrace the sloth...

 

[HorseBadoritz]

I can't tell you how freakin' excited I am that your SCROG is underway.

Mine is going up very soon. I've got 3 days to plan my lighting while I wait for payday. I can't find the 3-bulb thingies I want at Home Depot; I don't want more of the 2-bulb thingies I have now that I hate. It might finally be time to check out Lowe's.

Anyway, back to YOUR grow...I think that SCROG is going to be amazing. Keep up the great work.

Thanks GG, I'm excited, too... I've been very wishy washy on everything up til now. Actually setting up the scrog has been a commitment, no more thinking

Thanks for checking in

 

[HorseBadoritz]

wow, this is getting good....i love it when things come togather....everything looks really great....good on ya....lavendar

Thanks for the encouragement, Lavendar, I need it! I love this place, I'd still be fighting copters, deer, and rippers if I hadn't seen stuff like you do.

 

[Setting Sun]

Not clean your place, clean your piece, i.e., your pipe brah

yep, you gonna need it

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Not clean your place, clean your piece, i.e., your pipe brah

yep, you gonna need it

Jeeze, how did he know my pipe was clogged?

Speaking of which, I finally had to totally clean my 419 pipe (after 2 months)... man, I have never had an easier apparatus to get cleaner than a whistle

You don't know how glad I am that I don't have to clean up that crawl space!

 

[420warriors]

Hey horse, looking real good. I been lurkin and thought I was subbed,I am now.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Hey horse, looking real good. I been lurkin and thought I was subbed,I am now.

Thanks 420Warrior. Stop by anytime

 

[Green Utopia]

Looking awesome. That scrog is gonna fill in so nicely. That's a great setup you've got going. Should be super efficient. Fill the scrog to 2/3 and flip to 12/12. No wasted time. Niiiice.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Looking awesome. That scrog is gonna fill in so nicely. That's a great setup you've got going. Should be super efficient. Fill the scrog to 2/3 and flip to 12/12. No wasted time. Niiiice.

PG, I'm gonna get caught up on the journal, let me know what you think if you can wade thru it!

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Sorry kidz, I've had a packed last 3 weeks. I'm gonna try to get this journal caught up

The JHs, WW, and Jamaicans needed repotting. I put them in 3 +/- hempy buckets. Filled the pots about 4" w/ #3 perlite (all I could find), and soaked the perlite w/H2O. I depotted each plant one at a time. Massaged off as much dirt ball as I could while I soaked them in a 5 gal bucket of H2O. Very healthy root systems. Then I soaked them in a gallon bucket w/ Superthrive.

This time I put a tablespoon of OC+ on top of the 4 soaked inches of perlite, dangled the roots a little above that, and filled the rest of the pot w/ perlite. Then I soaked that til the perlite was floating, let it drain, and did it again. Stuck another charge of OC+ at the top, covered it w/ perlite, and squashed everything down snugly.

This is all probably elementary to anyone who's done this before... It takes me a while to catch on

This seems to work great. I didn't notice any stress at all.

White Widow

JH

JH

Jamaican

I did this 7/13

Here's a mater that's been getting the run off.

Stay tuned

 

[langa78]

nicely done man looking good cant wait to see them grow up

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Scrog 7/13

Not looking too good. Things seemed to have just stopped. Man, I had inadvertently punched my timer to go off for 4 hrs/day. I have no idea how long that was going on.

Typical

Things in the tent. 24/0 on the light.

I've gotta figure the tent out. Humidity is around 65%, doesn't seem to be bothering the girls, but I feel like I need to learn to control it for other uses.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Last weekend I watered every body Fri afternoon. Went out of town, and they were all good until a Monday morning shot of juice.

I wasn't seeing a lot of progress. Tried tucking fan leaves, but they were blocking potential up and comers below. I whacked a bunch, then went to work underneath. There was lots of little, skinny stuff, so I whacked that, too. I didn't get pics until Fri. slacker

Skinny Scrog

Location, location, location

Understory

Yesterday, things just seemed stalled again... so I checked the timer Actually I popped off the 4 offending buttons, freaking when I saw I'd punched them! I don't have a stinking timer on that light now

Some fan leaves were yellowing around edges. I hadn't loaded these buckets right when I put the OC+, and my water's pH is screwy 4.5 one day 7.5 the next. The runoff was 6.6. After flushing one plant with 5 gallons of 5.8 water, the runoff was 6... I think.

My pH meter is a milwaukee 600, the manual calibration is a rather large pain for me. Very finicky, sometimes takes 15 min to get it stabilized @ 7. And, readings all over the place. I ordered a Hannah auto calibrator, jeeze.

Today, I finally had a chance to muddle around a bit more. The plant I flushed looked better than the other two. Better color, more vibrant, and more of it poking thru the screen. It's at the back.

The yellowing is much more yellow in person

Attempted escape

Now we'll head to the Big Top... all right Little Top. Group shot.

I want these girls in stasis while I figure out what to do with them. I put them on a 6/6/6/6 starting last week. I'm not really seeing a big slowdown.

JH

White Widow

This Jamaican is doing splits... I'm a tough lover, I guess, when it comes to LST... this plant never missed a beat.

As a matter of fact, I'm not sure what it had to do with: the splitting, the light change, the time, or the right time, but she started showing pistils on Thursday.

I think I could fill a scrog with just this plant.

Her sister might be a brother. No pistils yet, but what I've seen to be a harbinger of dongdom, seems to be appearing. I'm not sure... but that would make a lot more room in the tent

Down in the hole

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Looking awesome. That scrog is gonna fill in so nicely. That's a great setup you've got going. Should be super efficient. Fill the scrog to 2/3 and flip to 12/12. No wasted time. Niiiice.

PG, I dunno if I get the filling up thing. I lowered the light to about 18" above the screen tonight. The under stuff just doesn't seem to be reaching for the sky?

I might have buds in 1/4 of the screen... man, I want a bud in every hole... new one for DocBud to market, "BudaHole"

After the 12/12 flip, is there any more growing? Stretching is unfamiliar territory for me. I've got around 3' from screen to max light height. It looked like your scrog tips were way above the screen. Got any control tips? I'm not running the weedeater in the crawlspace

Thanks