Ganjagrowergu
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It works buddy, I wouldn't use it in very large containers due to weight.
Ganjagrowergu
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No problem. Thank you
Photos always bring questions....
I see babies next to flowering girls all sharing the same space apparently.
All autos?
I see babies next to flowering girls all sharing the same space apparently.
All autos?
Hey Beez,
I took the liberty of checking out the nutrition in the Fox Farm recommended feeding schedule for hydroponics. I’m not sure why the Kangaroots and Microbe Brew are needed in hydro. Neither one provides much in the way of actual nutrients, and hydro doesn’t typically require assistance from beneficial microbes to make nutrients bioavailable to roots.
Anyway, here’s the results from the calculator for the recommended dosage at 2 weeks. Pretty low ppms for $0.11/gal (best prices I could easily find - you might find cheaper). But for about the same cost, it’s possible to get 10x the ppms, with better nutrient ratios (and including Cobalt, Moly, and Silica).
For example:
I took the liberty of checking out the nutrition in the Fox Farm recommended feeding schedule for hydroponics. I’m not sure why the Kangaroots and Microbe Brew are needed in hydro. Neither one provides much in the way of actual nutrients, and hydro doesn’t typically require assistance from beneficial microbes to make nutrients bioavailable to roots.
Anyway, here’s the results from the calculator for the recommended dosage at 2 weeks. Pretty low ppms for $0.11/gal (best prices I could easily find - you might find cheaper). But for about the same cost, it’s possible to get 10x the ppms, with better nutrient ratios (and including Cobalt, Moly, and Silica).
For example:
Are you able to check the products I intend to use like the Grow Big, Boomerang, and Tiger Bloom (in flowering)?? The Big Bloom numbers I can use. Thanks for taking the time to look into that. This is only like my 6th day growing with hempy and feel I am on shaky ground.
Perlite mine... mines in New Mexico with much smaller amounts coming from mines in Arizona, California, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, and Utah. Most of the expanded perlite, east of the Mississippi River.
Or use gravel bottom res and fill with twigs, springs, whatever you can think of that won't rot and turn to shit and keep a steady ph.. You can fill that bucket with free shit, if needed to...
Ya sure, I’ll look into it. Knowledge is most useful when it is spread.
As I recall, Boomerang is generally for remedial necessity, and does not provide much in the way of nutrients.
Ganjagrowergu
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Ahhh that question? LolPhotos always bring questions....
I see babies next to flowering girls all sharing the same space apparently.
All autos?
All photos under 12/12 from seed. All but one are technically hempys.
Boomerang (2.0 0.2 0.3) Earthworm castings, magnesium sulfate, sodiumborate, copper sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, zincsulfate, protein hydrolysate, kelp (Ascophyllum nodosum).
Hey Beez!
Here’s the three nutrients that you inquired about. I just ran the ppms for 1 ml/gal, so that you can play around with a customized nutrient profile of your own.
I trust that you know to recalculate the results from my previous post to 1 ml/gal if you want to modify the feeding recommended by FF.
Yeah, FF is funny in their “organic” approach to hydro. Personally, I don’t get it. Why bother with microorganisms when you are dosing with water soluble nutrients that the plant will take up as they are? Unless you don’t chelate. And why take that approach for drain-to-waste anyway?
Look at you.... using ur headbone and all.
I'd join you in that thought. DTW really negates any concepts of growing a mass of microbial goo. I try to avoid any goo-like ideas.
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You're thinking like a soil grower, and that's completely understandable, since it's what you've been growing with up until we tempted you beyond endurance. lol!
Whatever nutrient line you're using has a general schedule for application. Follow those guidelines. All those things that get added to soil don't really apply here. This is a lazy man's hydro. EWC and anything else you'd have added for the micro herd don't apply unless you're playing with something like coco. Perlite won't support a micro herd. You're feeding the roots dir call with hempy.
The exception is Cal/Mg, which we've learned to add at the rate of 2 tsp to the gallon at every watering.
At what point would you have normally added Grow Big? That's the same point you'd use it in hempy. What Tead said earlier couldn't be more true, there are a number of ways to skin a hempy canna cat. I've used both General Hydroponic's and RX Technologies, just the basic lines, and I've had no problem with either. We'll be here to help you sort it out.
I was so nervous my first hempy that I was a tremendous PITA. The guys never deserted me. They'll be there for you too beez.
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The advantage of perlite is the wicking ability, something you won't get the same way with gravel, or anything else for that matter. That's not to say the other options won't work, simply that they won't work as efficiently.
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Those are some stunning colas you have growing there buckaroo.
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Oh..... I almost forgot why I was here. Lol!
I'm helping Jgrowlove save his genetics by keeping them alive as clones. That means I'm going to have a whole bunch of clones that I'll be rooting cuttings and keeping the clones alive just long enough to take and root new cuttings until such time as one of us has opportunity to carry one to flower and harvest. My grow was already maxed out with planned additions, so this is really our only option.
This means I'll be needing small pots. I'd considered solo cups, and I may just do that , but I wanted to try a couple of this size first.
They look like a good size to keep small plants going long enough to clone, larger than solo cups, but still small enough to keep the footprint under control. I'll be using my early veg tent for this step and it measures 18" X 3'. I picked up all the ones they had in case it works.
I figure if I decide solo cups are a better idea I can return the unused pots, but I really think these will do exactly what I need them to.
I'm helping Jgrowlove save his genetics by keeping them alive as clones. That means I'm going to have a whole bunch of clones that I'll be rooting cuttings and keeping the clones alive just long enough to take and root new cuttings until such time as one of us has opportunity to carry one to flower and harvest. My grow was already maxed out with planned additions, so this is really our only option.
This means I'll be needing small pots. I'd considered solo cups, and I may just do that , but I wanted to try a couple of this size first.
They look like a good size to keep small plants going long enough to clone, larger than solo cups, but still small enough to keep the footprint under control. I'll be using my early veg tent for this step and it measures 18" X 3'. I picked up all the ones they had in case it works.
I figure if I decide solo cups are a better idea I can return the unused pots, but I really think these will do exactly what I need them to.
Ganjagrowergu
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Doing what I can with what I got... Maxibloom makes me feel like I am cheating.Those are some stunning colas you have growing there buckaroo.
This gravel doesn't wick so one has to stay on top of things with the small containers.
Pics are taken during afternoon feeding
Dirt never got me this far
<SHRUGS>... Ought to be a lazy way to do it, lol. Zip-ties and rocks?
Just how low is your water table, anyway? (Height of an actual table, maybe? Isn't some of that area below sea level?)
I know where mine is. Never used; it was a backup.
Yeah, good luck with that. When I was a kid, Mom paid the neighbor girl a quarter to clean my room, thinking I'd get embarrassed and start keeping it less cluttered. What I actually thought was, "Gee, I make more than a quarter a week. Hmm..."
Maid service was cheaper back then
.That could do it, too. If the plant isn't able to consume the bulk (or at the least a large part of) of the available water, it probably hasn't caused as much oxygen (air) to be drawn down into the perlite as possible.
Seems like hempy and other forms of passive hydroponics work best if ambient conditions include low to moderate RH levels and a reasonable amount of air movement. The plants will be consuming more optimum amounts of water as part of the transpiration process (good regardless of the method of cultivation).
If conditions are rough, when it gets hot the plants won't be moving an optimum amount of moisture (IMHO). If you see that a lot, try donating blood on a hot day, lol, and try skipping the coffee at breakfast. No, that wasn't a serious suggestion, BtW. But I'd certainly consider aerating the bottom of the hempy pots. I wouldn't consider this to be...
I've added boost (/turbos) to ground vehicles to get more power. Some airplanes had turbos that served the purpose of maintaining power when those IC engines hit higher altitude. That's what I'd be concerned with doing here. Like aerating the minnow bucket on an uncomfortable day. Not "mad amounts" of DO, just a little supplementation. One pump that you'd even consider for DWC use would serve several hempy pots if your purpose was oxygen insurance (so to speak).
How is your RH throughout the day and night there?
I wouldn't bother trying to retrofit existing hempy-grown plants, just wait until next time and stick a hose with an airstone on the end down to the bottom of the container when you pour in the media/nutrient mix. Try four or five containers/stones per pump, maybe? You could even run it off one of the older style timers that have 15-minute on/off settings and just lift a peg(?) every hour or so, maybe play around if you get bored (or worry about the air pump heating the bottom of your containers if it runs constantly).
Lol. Passive hydroponics came first by a pretty good margin. But the concept of active hydroponics didn't come about because a bunch of merchants wanted to sell (us
) more products - people were addressing specific needs, some of which were caused by differing environmental conditions. I'm guessing it gets kind of hot down there. If it's real hot here, it doesn't take all that long for a glass of water to start showing bubbles as the water looses the oxygen. That tells me that most plants grown in hot temperatures in passive hydroponics setups could benefit from some supplemental aeration.Square vs. rectangle time: Is a hempy still a hempy if it is aerated? Obviously, it's not still passive hydroponics at that point. But need hempy be passive? Everyone says hempy is a bucket with a hole in the side, lol. <SHRUGS> When they added color-reproduction ability to televisions, they didn't then have to change the name to colorvisions (because it they were still TVs).
Lazarus13
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So i got unlazy enough to upload a couple photos. Theyre a bit old(2 or so weeks ago) so theyve filled out quite a bit more. These are the first plants i havent topped and, while theyre pretty, they dont fill my tent the way im used to. Next run im switching back to photos and scrogging again.
