Hempy Headquarters

[SweetSue]

Another successful Osmo Plus grow came to an end today.

Candy Cane (Crop King Seeds), supposed to be an auto, but the seeds have all been photo up to now. She went 109 days and left behind a hearty clone to take her place.

She made an impressive exit. I'll get at least an ounce out of her.

There were some really nice buds. I'm playing with flash drying using a dehydrator.

Let the drying begin.

 

[Hova420]

Can you live a seed in water more then 24 hours

 

[TorturedSoul]

Can you live a seed in water more then 24 hours

Yes. I put one to soak in water and forgot about it for a week, maybe two weeks. I returned to find a tiny little yellow (from lack of light) seedling in the cup. THAT couldn't have happened in 24 hours. I figure it's dead for sure by now, but I probably could have saved it, had I possessed enough sense to check it after a few (or... ten, lol?) days.

 

[Blazinjones]

Another successful Osmo Plus grow came to an end today.

Candy Cane (Crop King Seeds), supposed to be an auto, but the seeds have all been photo up to now. She went 109 days and left behind a hearty clone to take her place.

She made an impressive exit. I'll get at least an ounce out of her.

There were some really nice buds. I'm playing with flash drying using a dehydrator.

Let the drying begin.

Dam sue those are some great lookn buds awesome job they look delecious as hell hey I had a quick question I jus noticed all 3 clones I put in hempy the other day have spider mites so will they be safe to use my ipm with neem oil added on them or no jus wondering if they r 2 young my ipm consist of Monterey garden spray with spinosad, fulpower by bioag its humid acid, and then protekt and then I add in the name oil for the spidermites

 

[Blazinjones]

These r the clones I'm talkn about in the above post

 

[SweetSue]

Dam sue those are some great lookn buds awesome job they look delecious as hell hey I had a quick question I jus noticed all 3 clones I put in hempy the other day have spider mites so will they be safe to use my ipm with neem oil added on them or no jus wondering if they r 2 young my ipm consist of Monterey garden spray with spinosad, fulpower by bioag its humid acid, and then protekt and then I add in the name oil for the spidermites

The Spinosad is enough to kill the mites Jones, but repeat the treatment every three days. Keep them isolated from the rest of your grow and never go from them to the rest of your garden without washing carefully and possibly changing clothes. All it takes is one surviving egg and your infestation begins again.

If it were my garden those clones would already be double bagged and in the trash can a block away.

 

[Blazinjones]

The Spinosad is enough to kill the mites Jones, but repeat the treatment every three days. Keep them isolated from the rest of your grow and never go from them to the rest of your garden without washing carefully and possibly changing clothes. All it takes is one surviving egg and your infestation begins again.

If it were my garden those clones would already be double bagged and in the trash can a block away.

Yea but i thought they can become imune to certain things and since i use the spinosad in my ipm twice a week i think they have become imune to it cause i now see like 6 of my veg girls has mites so im guna have 2 do a complete wash dwn and treat them all with the neem oil i just hope they make it cause i cant lose 6 of my girls tht wud be a heavey hit n it wud stall my perpetual grow as well. Well it wud slow it down so i jus wudnt get as much as i need but still not tryn to have tht happen but tht being said i dnt wana lose any more to this so ill isolate them n see if i cant make things alil bit better

 

[SweetSue]

Yea but i thought they can become imune to certain things and since i use the spinosad in my ipm twice a week i think they have become imune to it cause i now see like 6 of my veg girls has mites so im guna have 2 do a complete wash dwn and treat them all with the neem oil i just hope they make it cause i cant lose 6 of my girls tht wud be a heavey hit n it wud stall my perpetual grow as well. Well it wud slow it down so i jus wudnt get as much as i need but still not tryn to have tht happen but tht being said i dnt wana lose any more to this so ill isolate them n see if i cant make things alil bit better

I managed to stop an infestation in my gardens, but I went extreme. My grow spaces are removed from each other so I was able to isolate plants. When one infested plant came down I processed it immediately into fresh harvest oil so there'd be no chance of transferring any eggs or mites to any other place in the apartment. Then I scrubbed the tent down three times before I put anything else in there.

When I worked with infested plants I either gardened nude or stripped down when I came out of the tent (no infested plant left the tent until harvest, and then under very strictly controlled conditions) going straight to the hot shower. I never went from the infested plant to any other plant without washing my entire body and changing clothes. It took three months, but I got them all.

It's so easy to transfer eggs and mites around your home and garden. They're so tiny you can't see them, so you don't realize you're carrying them around with you. It takes absolute control.

 

[Blazinjones]

I managed to stop an infestation in my gardens, but I went extreme. My grow spaces are removed from each other so I was able to isolate plants. When one infested plant came down I processed it immediately into fresh harvest oil so there'd be no chance of transferring any eggs or mites to any other place in the apartment. Then I scrubbed the tent down three times before I put anything else in there.

When I worked with infested plants I either gardened nude or stripped down when I came out of the tent (no infested plant left the tent until harvest, and then under very strictly controlled conditions) going straight to the hot shower. I never went from the infested plant to any other plant without washing my entire body and changing clothes. It took three months, but I got them all.

It's so easy to transfer eggs and mites around your home and garden. They're so tiny you can't see them, so you don't realize you're carrying them around with you. It takes absolute control.

Yea i already got changes of clothes at each station n i got a white suit like deal almost like a hazmat suit without the top lol i got 2 of those i wud like 2 get atleast 1 more so then i cud have 1 for each station i got 2 veg areas one is a mars hydro tent and the other is just a space i sectioned off with panda paper and made stands/racks to hang my lights and then my back room is for my flowering tent which is pretty much the size of the whole room anyway lmao but since i needed sumthn to hold up my lights n fan plus then it wud help with the dark period i decided to use the tent instead of jus the whole room but yea now my one veg area with the panda paper is going to become my quarantined sick bay hahaha n then wen the infestation is gone on to the other veg tent or maybe flower tent by tht point idk how long this will take or how big they will get in the mean time considering i dnt even know how long the meantime even is lol

 

[SweetSue]

Yea i already got changes of clothes at each station n i got a white suit like deal almost like a hazmat suit without the top lol i got 2 of those i wud like 2 get atleast 1 more so then i cud have 1 for each station i got 2 veg areas one is a mars hydro tent and the other is just a space i sectioned off with panda paper and made stands/racks to hang my lights and then my back room is for my flowering tent which is pretty much the size of the whole room anyway lmao but since i needed sumthn to hold up my lights n fan plus then it wud help with the dark period i decided to use the tent instead of jus the whole room but yea now my one veg area with the panda paper is going to become my quarantined sick bay hahaha n then wen the infestation is gone on to the other veg tent or maybe flower tent by tht point idk how long this will take or how big they will get in the mean time considering i dnt even know how long the meantime even is lol

You'll be spotting signs of their activity more readily now. Every time I spotted markings on a leaf I clipped it off into a bag that got sealed before I left the tent. If you keep this up you can stop them in their tracks. Just think "cross-contamination " and you'll be good. You got this Jones.

 

[Blazinjones]

You'll be spotting signs of their activity more readily now. Every time I spotted markings on a leaf I clipped it off into a bag that got sealed before I left the tent. If you keep this up you can stop them in their tracks. Just think "cross-contamination " and you'll be good. You got this Jones.

Thanx sue for the motivational words its people like you tht have givin me the drive to keep goin and learn n practice growing till i can grow big buds that dont end up smelling like hay i need to learn how to acchive great bag quality meaning the smell and looks

 

[SweetSue]

Thanx sue for the motivational words its people like you tht have givin me the drive to keep goin and learn n practice growing till i can grow big buds that dont end up smelling like hay i need to learn how to acchive great bag quality meaning the smell and looks

Why thank you Jones. What a sweet thing to hear at the start of another joyful day tumbling from yard to yard.


Unless you're marketing the goods looks are incidental, other than the quest for NOTY. The smell will come back in the cure.

Everything smells of hay, to some extent, when you initially jar it up. After a week or two in the jars the grassy smell falls away and he terpenes begin to express again. This is one of the reasons for the protracted curing process.

Something to remember is that every time you stick your nose in there to get a whiff you're sucking out valuable terpenes. There's an adage in the canna med field that goes "If you're smelling it you're losing it." Try to limit he number of times the jars are open and exposed beyond airing for the cure.

 

[Blazinjones]

Ok thanx so much 4 the info yea this is why i need bigger yields since im so sick n have really bad nausea and am working with my doc to get off pain killers i need as much as i can get n i am always diping into my smoke b4 its fully cured im trying to dail in my grow so tht i can harvest mre and have a good amount at once so that most of it will make it long enuf for a gud cure then im sure i will be feeling more of the effects so i will need less in the end and hopefully will come ahead and then have enuf on hand while other buds are drying/curing

 

[SweetSue]

Ok thanx so much 4 the info yea this is why i need bigger yields since im so sick n have really bad nausea and am working with my doc to get off pain killers i need as much as i can get n i am always diping into my smoke b4 its fully cured im trying to dail in my grow so tht i can harvest mre and have a good amount at once so that most of it will make it long enuf for a gud cure then im sure i will be feeling more of the effects so i will need less in the end and hopefully will come ahead and then have enuf on hand while other buds are drying/curing

It's a delicate dance we all play at one time or another Jones. Took me almost three years to get my grow to where it is now. That first year was the roughest, after my husband died, and I was saved by the generosity of friends who refused to let me run out during that difficult stage when I had a hard time keeping on and the garden showed it.

Little by little you'll get there. In a year you'll be amazed at how much better your cultivation skills are.

 

[Blazinjones]

It's a delicate dance we all play at one time or another Jones. Took me almost three years to get my grow to where it is now. That first year was the roughest, after my husband died, and I was saved by the generosity of friends who refused to let me run out during that difficult stage when I had a hard time keeping on and the garden showed it.

Little by little you'll get there. In a year you'll be amazed at how much better your cultivation skills are.

Oh yeah i definitely see what u mean last year when i started out till now ive learned tons more info then i knew b4 last year so i can just imagine in another year itll be insane atleast i hope so hahaha but yea sry to hear bout ur loss sue hope things are easier on u now and yea its a gud thing sometimes to have good friends like that i had to clean house and drop all my friends or so called friends i was always getting my meds stolen from me and i was getn used for my money and everything plus every1 now a days is getting all strung out on dope n since thts not the lifestyle i wana be apart of it was always weird going and hanging out with my so called "friends" so i wud have them over to my place in hopes it wudnt be as bad but thn i started getn stolen from n my safe got broke into like 3 times and the last time they took my whole months worth of meds so i had to take all the plants n hide them outback in the forest and had to call the cops and everything n make a report n then cuz i was waiting for my doc to refill my prescriptions i ended up in the hospital cuz i have an illness tht if i start puking i cant stop sometimes i used to be like almost 600 pounds at my heaviest then about 3 years ago i got really sick n ended up in the icu for 2 months and i dropped all the way dwn to 185 so thts y wen my stuff was stolen last i said enuf was enuf and i droped every1 and started putting myself into 420magazine and my garden more and threw amazing people like you and radogast and bobrown14 and a few others tht i didnt mention i found a new reason to keep going and found sumthing to be happy and proud about my garden and this site with u guys has been a life saver and then u jus go and top it off by giving me the best bday gift ive ever recieved so jus wanted u to no how much it meant to me n sry 4 the rant lol man i went on a bit of a tangent there hahaha

 

[TorturedSoul]

Yea but i thought they can become imune to certain things

It's not that they "become immune," AfaIK. That kind of terminology paints a picture... of a child getting chicken pox and recovering - and, now, safely immune to it, that child can be around other children who have chicken pox without worry.

In this case: You have a large population and you're trying to poison it all. Mutations happen. One could say - if one said such things - that Mother Nature doesn't like genocidal events unless she caused them in the first place. So in a population, one or two - or 37, the exact number isn't really significant - will naturally be immune to a given poison. Maybe that number is zero, and everything is fine. But assume one or two are immune, due to mutations somewhere along the way in its parental lines. You kill 42,000 spider mites, leaving only some small few... that breed. At that point, there's lots of food and NO competition for it, lol. So they breed, their progeny breeds... and a couple weeks later, you have another 42,000 critters - all from the genetic line that is resistant to "poison #1."

Many people with use multiple weapons against a colony of nasties. Hit them with #1, #2, and #3. IDK, but I'd guess that it'd be more effective in practical terms to do this simultaneously instead of #1, wait... #2, wait... #3. Because you're not giving the survivor(s) from one poison the opportunity to increase its population.

As SweetSue mentioned, you need to use multiple treatments, spaced 3 or so days apart, to account for any eggs that'll hatch. This would be true whether you take the... shotgun or the single-shot (lol) approach.

If your population and environment is sufficiently large - say, a 1,200-acre forest - then you could conceivably end up with a surviving population that's resistant to everything in your arsenal.

You can experience the same phenomena writ large by entering a random hospital and staying long enough until you pick up a drug-resistant strain of MRSA or the like :icon_roll .

I'm just rambling. I don't suppose I really said anything :icon_roll .

BtW, this infestation was carried in on clones? I almost never introduce others' clones to a garden for this reason. But when I do, the FIRST stop is either the sprayer at the kitchen sink or the shower. Water-blasting works pretty good, lol. IDK whether this kills the little <BLEEPS> or not - once they reach the sewer system, I don't really care. If the clones are in some sort of container, with much in the way of soil or other media, I will at the least stand there hosing the soil over and over and... And will sometimes try to remove the vast majority of it, if I think the clone might survive the root stress. Water-blasting doesn't depend on poison, so immunity does not play a part.

I read within the past year or so that russet mites - those things that are so tiny you can barely see them even when they clump together in numbers - can even live/travel on seeds. That has me a little bit worried; approximately 98% of my seeds were gifted to me. I think I'm going to start doing what others do and give my seeds a hydrogen peroxide "bath" before soaking them prior to germination.

These days, I can't see well enough to identify the sex of preflowers, lol / <SIGH> . So the thought of little critters scares the willies out of me.

 

[Bode]

Hi SweetSue, I'm new here and need to learn about growing cannabis. I'm only on page 2, but will get caught up. I'm also intrigued by your upbeat sounding character. Mind if I tag along?

 

[SweetSue]

Hi SweetSue, I'm new here and need to learn about growing cannabis. I'm only on page 2, but will get caught up. I'm also intrigued by your upbeat sounding character. Mind if I tag along?

Bode. It's a big hempy boat. The more the merrier.

I see you're new to us, and you mention the desire to learn to grow, so I'm assuming no experience? Boy, did you ever find the right community! This technique we play with here is slightly different from the majority of our virtual neighbors' grows. We find hempy to be a simpler method of procuring fine cannabis than soil.

Many of the hempy growers will advise a new grower to start with soil or full out hydro, to get the experience of the actual growing behind you and get a feel for the way cannabis expresses herself. Me? I tend to think hempy is as easy as it gets, so why ask you to suffer needlessly? I'm certain we can help you through the rough spots. They all taught me to grow on the fly. Lol!

As to the upbeat character, that may be an understatement. My basic intention in life is to help others discover how much more productive and satisfying and just downright wonderful your life becomes when you allow yourself to live every blessed moment in joy.

You might call that upbeat. I'm here to do all I can to help members grow fine cannabis and process it into quality meds. If there's anything I can help you with you have only to ask. Glad to have you among us.

 

[SweetSue]

I had my first successful cutting root in a solo hempy pot.

It's been exactly 14 days since I cut her from the mother. I soaked the perlite-filled cup in a dilution of aloe vera gel and water, dipped the cutting into aloe and then into rooting hormone and nestled her in the perlite. That cup went into an inflated produce bag, to be checked every three days. During that time I flushed her twice with fresh aloe water.

I promised myself I wouldn't check until it'd been two full weeks.

I taped the hole to keep the water in.

Then I filled the cup with distilled water.

A gentle wiggle and she came right out. Roots!! How easy was that?

Scooping the perlite aside to seat her again, the tape got removed and the water drained to the reservoir depth.

She sits in the shadows tonight.

Tomorrow I'll find her a small spot about 24" from the light to start her move towards greater illumination.

 

[Blazinjones]

It's not that they "become immune," AfaIK. That kind of terminology paints a picture... of a child getting chicken pox and recovering - and, now, safely immune to it, that child can be around other children who have chicken pox without worry.

In this case: You have a large population and you're trying to poison it all. Mutations happen. One could say - if one said such things - that Mother Nature doesn't like genocidal events unless she caused them in the first place. So in a population, one or two - or 37, the exact number isn't really significant - will naturally be immune to a given poison. Maybe that number is zero, and everything is fine. But assume one or two are immune, due to mutations somewhere along the way in its parental lines. You kill 42,000 spider mites, leaving only some small few... that breed. At that point, there's lots of food and NO competition for it, lol. So they breed, their progeny breeds... and a couple weeks later, you have another 42,000 critters - all from the genetic line that is resistant to "poison #1."

Many people with use multiple weapons against a colony of nasties. Hit them with #1, #2, and #3. IDK, but I'd guess that it'd be more effective in practical terms to do this simultaneously instead of #1, wait... #2, wait... #3. Because you're not giving the survivor(s) from one poison the opportunity to increase its population.

As SweetSue mentioned, you need to use multiple treatments, spaced 3 or so days apart, to account for any eggs that'll hatch. This would be true whether you take the... shotgun or the single-shot (lol) approach.

If your population and environment is sufficiently large - say, a 1,200-acre forest - then you could conceivably end up with a surviving population that's resistant to everything in your arsenal.

You can experience the same phenomena writ large by entering a random hospital and staying long enough until you pick up a drug-resistant strain of MRSA or the like :icon_roll .

I'm just rambling. I don't suppose I really said anything :icon_roll .

BtW, this infestation was carried in on clones? I almost never introduce others' clones to a garden for this reason. But when I do, the FIRST stop is either the sprayer at the kitchen sink or the shower. Water-blasting works pretty good, lol. IDK whether this kills the little <BLEEPS> or not - once they reach the sewer system, I don't really care. If the clones are in some sort of container, with much in the way of soil or other media, I will at the least stand there hosing the soil over and over and... And will sometimes try to remove the vast majority of it, if I think the clone might survive the root stress. Water-blasting doesn't depend on poison, so immunity does not play a part.

I read within the past year or so that russet mites - those things that are so tiny you can barely see them even when they clump together in numbers - can even live/travel on seeds. That has me a little bit worried; approximately 98% of my seeds were gifted to me. I think I'm going to start doing what others do and give my seeds a hydrogen peroxide "bath" before soaking them prior to germination.

These days, I can't see well enough to identify the sex of preflowers, lol / <SIGH> . So the thought of little critters scares the willies out of me.

The only reason i had it hit is cause ive always thought seedlings and fresh clones tht are not established in fully wud sufer if i used my ipm on them and ive never had an issue with my veg girls other then mot being able 2 pop a few seeds above ground but tht was wen i was first starting out b4 i new to use a plain soil or medium to start clones and seedlings in but then once i got tht under control ive never had an issue in veg b4 so i jus kept to the normal dont use my ipm on them till they r older but i went ahead and got the clones and they r doing great actually they r getting greener and looking like they r starting grow again oh and its only 4 tht had the mites not 6 i was wrong but yea now all r doing great and now im jus guna incorporate my veg girls in my normal ipm routine so 2times a week they will get hit on a normal basis but since the mite infested ones have tht issue they will get it every 3 days r so for like the next 12 days tht wud be 4 treatments at every 3 days then ill go to normal twice a week what does every 1 think of tht good plan or shud i adjust it sumhow??