Hempy Headquarters

[TorturedSoul]

<SIGH>. I'm going to owe you a liver - and I'd have to look elsewhere in order to find a healthy one (sins of a misspent youth and all that ).

You could probably already lay claim to a kidney, lol.

I could definitely use them - but probably only one or two of the smaller two sizes any time soon. I'd have to invest in more soil and/or perlite to fill the larger sizes. Although... the 10- and 15-gallon sized ones have just telepathically communicated their desire to be used outside next Spring in the woods somewhere . If not (directly) from me, than... someone. I'll bet R. would love them!

BtW, ever forget that you had a seed soaking in a cup of water? There's a tiny little (SS) DDA "infant" here. I'm not sure if it's still alive or not, there's no green left. I'm going to stick it into a cup of lightened soil this evening to see if it'll green up. If so... IDK, lol. Probably won't exactly advance the knowledge of/about cannabis or anything, but it'll make me feel better. It is completely out of the seed case, a tiny little seedling.

 

[SweetSue]

<SIGH>. I'm going to owe you a liver - and I'd have to look elsewhere in order to find a healthy one (sins of a misspent youth and all that ).

You could probably already lay claim to a kidney, lol.

I could definitely use them - but probably only one or two of the smaller two sizes any time soon. I'd have to invest in more soil and/or perlite to fill the larger sizes. Although... the 10- and 15-gallon sized ones have just telepathically communicated their desire to be used outside next Spring in the woods somewhere . If not (directly) from me, than... someone. I'll bet R. would love them!

BtW, ever forget that you had a seed soaking in a cup of water? There's a tiny little (SS) DDA "infant" here. I'm not sure if it's still alive or not, there's no green left. I'm going to stick it into a cup of lightened soil this evening to see if it'll green up. If so... IDK, lol. Probably won't exactly advance the knowledge of/about cannabis or anything, but it'll make me feel better. It is completely out of the seed case, a tiny little seedling.

No reason to feel indebted TS. I have it, you need it and I don't. We're just shifting resources around.

I have forgotten I had a seed in water. I found mine before it had evacuated the entire shell though. I bet it grows big and strong for you.

 

[MagicJim]

I grew some critical cure for my wife and it made some nice chunky buds with a strong earthy taste. Didnt do much for me but it was a pretty plant.

In my stoner opinion if the resevior is inside the pot its a hempy, outside the pot its a swick

So are you going to have a 2 inch plastic tray inside the softie? Is that the idea?

 

[TorturedSoul]

No reason to feel indebted TS.

Yes, I know. And you know that I know, really. It's just... I manage to help others a little at a time (whether or not the help has anything to do with cannabis - sometimes a meal is more helpful than anything else), but your help... It's like Monty Hall, lol, "Behind this curtain is a new car! Oh, but wait, there's more . We also have a house in the mountains and a vacation to Antarctica in August when you'd ordinarily be sweating into a puddle. What can you offer me for this, ladies and gentlemen? How about... A bent penny? Yes, that's right, I'll give all of THIS away to the first person who can come up with... one... bent... penny. You, sir. No, not you madam - although that is an impressive beard. I mean the hillbilly trying to see around your big head. Do you have a bent penny, perhaps? No? Okay, a pair of socks! I'll take a pair of socks socks for... <WHISPERING> What's that? <SIGH> Fine, then. One slightly moth-eaten and very dirty sock..."

Err... Sort of.

You've gotten me to the point where I can appreciate it, be happy about it, and not feel guilty about it. But I will always wish I could reciprocate to you, personally. That's just how I am, I guess.

 

[Blazinjones]

Not sure what thread it was but someone suggested coiling a beer funnel around the inside of an air pot with the funnel sticking out the top and watering through the funnel. I might try that next time I use a smart pot instead of my trash cans.

Yea I do the funnel idea to water/feed my girl I'm doing a flux grow with since I have her pinned dwn to a foam board I needed a way to get in an feed her so I put a funnel in and jus water threw that works great and my flux is way easier now

 

[Blazinjones]

I was wondering since I put 3 clones into hempy pots do u start using nutes on them right away or do u just use plain water right away for awhile then switch to nutes?? Shud I just treat them like I wud a seedling just wondering how I shud go about dealing with my new clones I'm up to 7 seedlings and 3 clones going hempy now soon I'll have a whole house of hempy lol

 

[SweetSue]

I was wondering since I put 3 clones into hempy pots do u start using nutes on them right away or do u just use plain water right away for awhile then switch to nutes?? Shud I just treat them like I wud a seedling just wondering how I shud go about dealing with my new clones I'm up to 7 seedlings and 3 clones going hempy now soon I'll have a whole house of hempy lol

It's a slippery hempy slope Jones. I start the seedlings out with plain water until I see two new sets of leaves, then I start at 1/4 strength and begin to carefully increase to 1/2, then 3/4, and finally to full strength. It takes me about 10 days to get there, I'd guess. I've gone faster than planned and still managed to grow happy plants.

 

[Blazinjones]

It's a slippery hempy slope Jones. I start the seedlings out with plain water until I see two new sets of leaves, then I start at 1/4 strength and begin to carefully increase to 1/2, then 3/4, and finally to full strength. It takes me about 10 days to get there, I'd guess. I've gone faster than planned and still managed to grow happy plants.

Shud i do the same with clones or start them with nutes??

 

[DrDoob]

My definition of a hempy system is any soil-free passive hydro system that has an approximate 2" deep reservoir and is filled with a medium that will effectively wick the nutrient-rich water up to the root zone. The original hempy pots were a mixture of perlite and vermiculite. I prefer plain perlite because I feel it does that wicking most efficiently.

Any one else care to add their two cents worth?

Okay awesome I think I do get it then, I just let a few posts confuse me. After some experimenting I am too jumping on the hempy train. Last month I started four clones, two in soil and two in hempy. And although the soil is doing better, the hempy is right behind and about a million times easier to deal with.

For the hempys I don't really have great nutes yet, just Genreral Hydro flora and a bit of silicone supplement to deal with the crazy heat, and for the soil I haven’t added anything but water and a bit of the silicone. So I'm not surprised they are lagging slightly behind. Due to my hippie parents, I am too fearful (I'm sure needlessly) of products like osmo+. So after a ton of research I decided to just follow Sweet Sue's footsteps and get the RX Green stuff. Yesterday I found a good deal on eBay for about $10 per quart bottle for the grow and bloom and used some amazon gift cards to justify the price of the bulk and energy. It should be here next week.

For my pots I used some 'self-watering' pots that already have a little reservoir at the bottom, I drilled my hole about an inch and a half above the reservoir. My only concern was that they wouldn't flush properly, but after some tests I do think they are flushing fine. If not the reservoir is just a plastic insert that I could easily break out. I ordered 8 more of the pots and will let the soil plants finish up and then go all hempy unless unforeseen issues arise between now and then.

I don’t really have a sink or anything with a drain really to water them in so I will have to figure something out. I previously made an ebb and flow tray to test out and if the plant in it doesn’t perk up soon I’m thinking of transplanting it and converting the reservoir to a hempy watering station of sorts.

I have some photos but my computer has been having issues. I’ll add them from my phone later if I find the time.

Anyways thanks everyone here for all your help,.

 

[AnimaSola]

I feed my seedlings water straight from the tap until the cotyledons start to yellow in coco, same thing.

 

[TorturedSoul]

For the hempys I don't really have great nutes yet, just Genreral Hydro flora and a bit of silicone supplement to deal with the crazy heat, and for the soil I haven’t added anything but water and a bit of the silicone. So I'm not surprised they are lagging slightly behind. Due to my hippie parents, I am too fearful (I'm sure needlessly) of products like osmo+.

Err, both General Hydroponics and Osmocote are part of the Scotts Miracle-Gro monster, lol. So I suppose your parents might look at both of them in the same way?

I couldn't even guess at how much bud I grew with GH Flora series over the years, and by all accounts Osmocote Plus works, too. But I can certainly understand not wishing to "give money to the Man." If more people felt that way, there'd be more locally-owned hardware stories and corner grocers still in business - and it wouldn't matter so much that the Walton family could serve as fill-ins for the villains in some science fiction(?) morality tale about the future, because WalMart would be significantly smaller. Or maybe not, who knows? I've bought a thing or two at ol' ChinaMart now and then (although I try to keep it to the bare minimum, pay special attention to make sure I'm not buying a product that's "comparable" with a like product at another store but with a special suffix on the model number designating the fact that even the usual Chinese crap isn't built cheaply enough to hawk at WalMart - and I'd starve before I bought their dyed meat and suchlike).

I've been seeing more mention of that RX Green product line. Does it have a complete set of micronutrients? Does it depend on microbial life to predigest the stuff, or can plants' roots use it directly?

 

[Nicholas Flamel]

So are you going to have a 2 inch plastic tray inside the softie? Is that the idea?

Yea basically jim.

 

[Gauge Steel]

My Cindy99 Hempy.
Glamor shots for this beauty as she goes into Bloom.
She is a 21"x14" cabinet queen.

 

[DrDoob]

Err, both General Hydroponics and Osmocote are part of the Scotts Miracle-Gro monster, lol. So I suppose your parents might look at both of them in the same way?

I couldn't even guess at how much bud I grew with GH Flora series over the years, and by all accounts Osmocote Plus works, too. But I can certainly understand not wishing to "give money to the Man." If more people felt that way, there'd be more locally-owned hardware stories and corner grocers still in business - and it wouldn't matter so much that the Walton family could serve as fill-ins for the villains in some science fiction(?) morality tale about the future, because WalMart would be significantly smaller. Or maybe not, who knows? I've bought a thing or two at ol' ChinaMart now and then (although I try to keep it to the bare minimum, pay special attention to make sure I'm not buying a product that's "comparable" with a like product at another store but with a special suffix on the model number designating the fact that even the usual Chinese crap isn't built cheaply enough to hawk at WalMart - and I'd starve before I bought their dyed meat and suchlike).

I've been seeing more mention of that RX Green product line. Does it have a complete set of micronutrients? Does it depend on microbial life to predigest the stuff, or can plants' roots use it directly?

The reason I'm scared of products like osmo+ is because it's made for ornamental plants, not consumable plants. I was taught to avoid fertilizers that don't specifically say they can be used for vegetables. I don't really care much who owns the company. Although I generally prefer my money flows to good people instead of bad. I don't know enough about them to consider them evil, their TV commercials are annoying though. I originally bought the flora stuff because it was convenient and cheap and I figured I could get by with it until I find something better, and I have so far. Plus it's the same stuff I used 25 years ago when there was a lot less choice. I might still end up using the GH stuff, if the RX Green doesn't work well for me or isn't convenient.

The marketing materials make it seem like RX Green is a complete solution, and I've seen (online) many people talk about using it exclusively with good enough results to sell me on it. I'm far from an expert at reading data sheets, my "tons of research" was mostly looking at pictures and reading posts from people using it. I don't really know much about microbial life, but they do have a "root" product that seems to be all about microbial life, you might look into that, but I didn't buy any as it seemed less then convenient.

 

[Drogon]

The reason I'm scared of products like osmo+ is because it's made for ornamental plants, not consumable plants. I was taught to avoid fertilizers that don't specifically say they can be used for vegetables. I don't really care much who owns the company. Although I generally prefer my money flows to good people instead of bad. I don't know enough about them to consider them evil, their TV commercials are annoying though. I originally bought the flora stuff because it was convenient and cheap and I figured I could get by with it until I find something better, and I have so far. Plus it's the same stuff I used 25 years ago when there was a lot less choice. I might still end up using the GH stuff, if the RX Green doesn't work well for me or isn't convenient.

The marketing materials make it seem like RX Green is a complete solution, and I've seen (online) many people talk about using it exclusively with good enough results to sell me on it. I'm far from an expert at reading data sheets, my "tons of research" was mostly looking at pictures and reading posts from people using it. I don't really know much about microbial life, but they do have a "root" product that seems to be all about microbial life, you might look into that, but I didn't buy any as it seemed less then convenient.

Would you care to share your gh feeding schedule for your hempy buckets? I'm using the same nutes and I've had trouble getting it dialed in with hempy, it worked great for me in coco but hempy's seem touchy with the nutes.

 

[SweetSue]

Okay awesome I think I do get it then, I just let a few posts confuse me. After some experimenting I am too jumping on the hempy train. Last month I started four clones, two in soil and two in hempy. And although the soil is doing better, the hempy is right behind and about a million times easier to deal with.

For the hempys I don't really have great nutes yet, just Genreral Hydro flora and a bit of silicone supplement to deal with the crazy heat, and for the soil I haven’t added anything but water and a bit of the silicone. So I'm not surprised they are lagging slightly behind. Due to my hippie parents, I am too fearful (I'm sure needlessly) of products like osmo+. So after a ton of research I decided to just follow Sweet Sue's footsteps and get the RX Green stuff. Yesterday I found a good deal on eBay for about $10 per quart bottle for the grow and bloom and used some amazon gift cards to justify the price of the bulk and energy. It should be here next week.

For my pots I used some 'self-watering' pots that already have a little reservoir at the bottom, I drilled my hole about an inch and a half above the reservoir. My only concern was that they wouldn't flush properly, but after some tests I do think they are flushing fine. If not the reservoir is just a plastic insert that I could easily break out. I ordered 8 more of the pots and will let the soil plants finish up and then go all hempy unless unforeseen issues arise between now and then.

I don’t really have a sink or anything with a drain really to water them in so I will have to figure something out. I previously made an ebb and flow tray to test out and if the plant in it doesn’t perk up soon I’m thinking of transplanting it and converting the reservoir to a hempy watering station of sorts.

I have some photos but my computer has been having issues. I’ll add them from my phone later if I find the time.

Anyways thanks everyone here for all your help,.

The oil drain pans I found at Dollar Tree for all of a buck work really well for watering the hempies.

They're wide enough to accomodate the pots I'm using and deep enough to catch the overflow. A large kitty litter pan will do the job as well.

Would you please pm me the link for the bottles on eBay? $10 a quart will save me a few. I won my initial batch, and now I'm sold enough on them that I need to order before I get too low.

I have to say though, that the Osmo girls are doing a fabulous job of dealing with the pelleted nutes. That Carnival I took down is some fine smoke, and the Ultra Dawg was good enough to instantly become one of my regular strains. I'll be running at least one more in the future, as a comparison grow with the RX solutions. If the Osmo can come in a close second in potency I can accomodate the decreased size by fitting in more pots. I haven't brought one of the RX Solutions girls to harvest yet. That grow is going on in my closet.

The plant on the right is in 10 gallons of soil. The plant on the left, a cousin in breeding to the soil girl, is in about 2.5-3 gallons of perlite using the RX Solutions. Before trying these nutrients I wasn't aware I could grow a plant this big in hempy.

I'm one of those aging hippies. I've decided to go with some different choices in my later years. Adaptability is the name of the game, isn't it?

 

[Gauge Steel]

FYI Gauge is a RX Green user as well. Highly recommend RX green Energy, Bulk as well as Grow and Bloom.

 

[DrDoob]

Would you care to share your gh feeding schedule for your hempy buckets? I'm using the same nutes and I've had trouble getting it dialed in with hempy, it worked great for me in coco but hempy's seem touchy with the nutes.

lol you'd be crazy to listen to me. I use untreated tap water and feed/flush the hempys about every three days with just water. Every other feeding after I flood/flush with plain water I kind of tip the pot a bit to drain a little out of the reservoir. Then I've been giving them 3ml of grow and 1ml each of bloom and micro in a gallon of water which I split between the two. And a couple times I've added 1ml of the silicon supplement to deal with excessive heat.

One time I mixed three gallons based on the above ratios and fed them without the water flush first. But I got too scared and did the normal three gallon flush/flood of regular water the next day.

Here are photos. The weird one in soil is revegging and looking weird but healthy (the damaged leaf is left over from the original clone, which wasn't more then a tiny bud with a couple leaves.

 

[DrDoob]

Ohhh I had forgotten, I had added some calimag too when I added the silicon.

 

[Hash Hound]

Like this thing in the center of the bucket? Lol

thanks Aussie. It looked like it was flush with the bottom in the other pics.

Good luck with your setup.